HIDDEN/INDEPTH MAX AMMO OVERLOAD and NOIR Mechanics Tips | Nikke Guide Analysis

[@skyjlv]

Make sure to also thank mr Konto for providing the data! Figuring stuff out on stream, help support the cause! www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/

[@untitled4841]

Love the theory crafting. Only channel I know with detailed analysis 👍

[@Mikoto86]

The nostalgia hits hard with the background music. Great vid! Informative as always :D

[@alaintouloucanon5467]

Thanks for sharing all this info.

[@shinsen16]

The RO bgm hits hard after all these years 😂

[@EmmanuelTorres-jm2ni]

hey thanks for the vid!! new in playing Nikke i'm quite confused watching guides & stuffs its too overwhelming i think any beginnerr tips u can recommend? i've got dorothy and ludmilla idk if they're any good

[@skyjlv]

Dorothy's good. You can start with the basic stuff first and I think you'll figure out things along the way. This ammo video in particular is a bit more end-game stuff but I did make a beginner video a while that did go through some basic progression tips. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2S8gHmKo7Jjaqs I think that's a good starting point first and if you have other questions you can ask in discord or catch me when I stream on twitch.

[@EmmanuelTorres-jm2ni]

@@skyjlv thank you so much!! i will start the play tommorow i've just finished life 2-11 of the campaign today

[@soaringmagicng5549]

Thanks for the theory craft

[@seporokey]

4:00 So, does that mean I SHOULD put Privaty to the left if I WANT less ammo in order to trigger my last bullet effects? Using Noir and Privaty to buff Dorothy for example, you would actually want Privaty first is what I'm guessing... If I understood this correctly. Edit: Bleh, used the names of the wrong Nikke in my example. Fixed!

[@skyjlv]

If Dorothy is the only concern or you have other units with last bullet effects, you are right that Privaty on the left is a better choice. But again the tradeoff here is your main DPS is possibly losing DPS as noted in there (unless it also is a unit with good last bullet effect). For Alice, this could be huge because an extra bullet of quickfire at 100% charge speed during full burst does more than 5x a quickfire outside of burst. For MG (e.g.Modernia), this might be the difference of you reloading during full burst or outside of full burst.

[@seporokey]

@@skyjlv Gotcha. Ya, my teams are built around Dorothy being my main DPS. My main team at the moment is Biscuit, Blanc, Dorothy, Privaty, Noir. This is good info to know! Thanks again!

[@skyjlv]

@@seporokey Do note that less max ammo doesn't make Dorothy deal that much more damage, it just makes it more likely to have higher uptime on boss parts damage and have slightly faster cooldown reduction on burst. In the first place, Dorothy+Privaty combo on its own is enough for that without switching up Privaty's position. But if you were not waiting on full burst in the first place or the enemy doesn't have body parts to destroy, then it's not going to make a difference and you're better off having Privaty on the right. On a side note, I'd recommend changing biscuit there for another DPS as normally Blanc and Noir should be enough to cover your defensive requirements.

[@darkflames9]

For the first point with the same tier ammo overload... Isn't that just how math works? (.4017 * 300) + (.4017 * 300) + (.4017 * 300) + 300 (individual multiplication) is the same as 3(.4017) * 300 + 300 (tiers being added together) so I don't think this observation is significant.

[@skyjlv]

This is somewhat a follow up video from kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-8mn6kpapngK8 where we talked about max ammo OL's from different tiers and I was talking to my chat who are familiar with the concept already. So the beginning might be confusing to new people here that we started with that topic but at the end of the day, it was to illustrate and differentiate the second (different tiers don't stack) and third point (RL/SR ammo bonus for each tier). Most importantly third point where each tier for RL's and SR's are more significant decision for some people whether they should reroll out of it or not.

[@justarandomchatbot4952]

Awesome video really helps out on understanding how ammo cap mechanic works especially the same tier additive part. But just a quick question. Hypothetically, when you equip a wingman cube does it changes the base ammo or it goes into the "x ammo buffs/debuffs additive" at 1:12.

[@skyjlv]

I went and asked Mr Konto and god bless him for confirming this but it looks like Wingman is not a buff and is calculated separately: media.discordapp.net/attachments/1082714441608605747/1122944765932077147/image.png

[@justarandomchatbot4952]

@@skyjlv Thank you so much. Makes sense that wingman works like overload but in a different section. Thank you so much for the testing. Both of you are godsent.

[@kurotm1519]

👏👏

[@davidcho4163]

Does this mean that a max ammo capacity increase substat would be bad on dorothy because her first passive increases parts dmg and decreases burst skill cooldown every time her last bullet hits?

[@skyjlv]

Yes max ammo is bad on Dorothy.

[@dkruizer]

Does atk% overlord gear work on noirs skill 1?

[@skyjlv]

It doesn't. I've broken down Noir's ATK buff and tested that out already in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip7VfJumqq9jpac

[@dkruizer]

@@skyjlv okay, thank you very much for the reply! I'll check it out

[@dixchataifeuh3544]

My thanks

[@Uldan1988]

2 nikkes GS like my full squad ...smh

[@waifusislife2378]

Inconing :v

[@Malc_007]

My mans broke out the calculations I love it!