Hidlay vs Nolf Controversy. Frame By Frame

[@roberthogue1232]

It was 2. The refs consistently call that takedown

[@youarerightboss]

A continuation and NO takedown.

[@TYLERtheMAGGOT1]

@@youarerightboss thats high school rules. In college that's 2. Do some research on college wrestling rules. They don't do continuation

[@youarerightboss]

@@TYLERtheMAGGOT1, Nolf won, fair and square. No control, no 2.

[@willflum2847]

@@youarerightboss there is a precedent set by many other matches that a man behind with the other having a hand down is a takedown, continuation applies more to a roll through. Not standing up after being down

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

“Continuation and control ” is no longer a part of the takedown rule in college. It used to be. Today’s rule is based upon the “taken down” wrestler utilizing any part of their body other than their feet to remain upright. In a high school match this was not a take down. In a college match in 2019 it is an easily seen 2 points. They are rewarding the take down way too soon today. But, all tournament long that was two, excerpt for the Nolf match

[@tombalthis7199]

Love Nolf and favor him . But it looked like a takedown and was at first called that .even if the points were not taken away.we will never know that Jason would have won or lost despite that call. Based on the final score those points remain he loses but you can’t say for certain what the outcome would have been .Feel bad for Hidley would have felt worse for fellow believer Nolf.

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Tom Balthis what do you mean “fellow believer?”

[@j.w.hardin156]

@@BadWolfMMANashville Nolf said himself that it he thought it was a takedown.

[@kenstine6008]

Hidlay got robbed

[@Ajc99130]

Ken Stine. How did Hidlay got robbed you did watch the second period where Nolf got out and scored a takedown in matter of second right ??? But yet Hidlay got robbed haha

[@kenstine6008]

Jj Smith No doubt Nolf is a great wrestler! I just thought it should have been 2-0 at that point Nobody knows what would have if it was....yes Nolf won 3-2....he is a great champion.....

[@Ajc99130]

Ken Stine. Just rewatch last year finals Nolf vs Hidlay. It was the same exact thing going to the 3rd and then Nolf open up and started scoring points. And that was with an injured Knee I’m not dogging Hidlay I believe he will win a national title. In the next two years. But Nolf respected the kid to much to turn it on him. He was never in position to lose that match

[@pjtja9523]

This video is in slow motion,,, can someone please send me the full video..

[@pjtja9523]

@@Ajc99130 last years finals has nothing to do with this fucking match... either does the third period.. want to know if that was two points in the first period,,,also this video is in slow motion so it is hard to tell with out watching the full match play by the right speed....

[@dougjuveland6176]

Refs should not have reversed 2 points already given for take down clearly shown...Nolf got a free pass

[@chadroberts3727]

Oh, you're talking about the slow "roll through" where no one had control and no count was given therefore it's literally called continuation?!

[@jasonbutler856]

Thats 2 all day according to the NCAA rules.

[@youarerightboss]

No control, just a continuation, therefore, no takedown. Correct call by the referees, who even reviewed the aforementioned for crying Hidlay 😭😭😭😭😭.

[@cornprices1718]

@@youarerightboss continuation isnt a thing any more in college, that was a takedown

[@youarerightboss]

@@cornprices1718 , wrong. The aforementioned was a continuation, therefore, no control and no takedown. Plus, the officials reviewed the call in question and conferred with my correct conclusion. Lays chips taste great, too.

[@youarerightboss]

@@jasonbutler856 , in your self inflicted wet dreams.

[@scottab140]

0:52 Take Down for Hidlay. Opponent taken down to the mat, one hand and a knee, in controlling him with an arm. Then a takedown is scored when one wrestler, Hidlady, gains control over the other, causing the opponent's, Nolf, supporting points (the area or areas in which most of the body weight is placed) to be the knees, thighs, buttocks, or hands.

[@iBenChosen]

Y’all act like he was gonna tech nolf after that takedown if it counted. If he got that takedown he still would not have won. Nolf has given up plenty of first takedowns against ppl and continues to win good or bad. If it counted it would be a different scoring match but nolf still winning

[@bohemiantheologian]

It was 2. At second glance, his butt was off the mat. Not sure.

[@user-eg7nr1wn4o]

Had they scored it a takedown, Nolf would have answered back. JS😘

[@wrestlingscience]

agreed!

[@youarerightboss]

Hayden Hidlay😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. Love the dire piano music, too. 👀🤭😅😂🤣

[@feedbackfit]

Was asking myself why they put four seconds back onto the clock if the call was continuation. Instead, something might have gone down at the four second mark. If you look at what happened at that point, Nolf's knee was in a pretty dangerous position. Maybe this has to do with why they took away the takedown and then put back the four seconds...? Or else why four seconds?

[@soraryukasuke1836]

Isn’t there reaction time in this position

[@TristanSoldier]

One of the best matches of the tournament.

[@youarerightboss]

A continuation, no control and NO takedown. Good officiating, consistent referees.

[@chadroberts3727]

Worst refereeing I've seen in 10yrs. Horrible stalling calls all tournament. And even worse call when they gave Yianni te takedown against McKenna. Absolutely horrible.

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

thad anderson the “danger zone” rule calls for a count of three for a takedown to be rewarded. So based upon what you said if Yianni held him in that danger zone for 2 seconds he was one second short of scoring. Just basing my response off of what you said.

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

thad anderson yeah they call it “danger zone” meaning you are exposing your back in a scramble and there is 3 seconds of fixation. Basically, neither wrestler really has control but you are in a position where swipes can be given if there was control. The rule was created to stop collegiate wrestlers from gaming exposing their backs in scrambles.

[@zdlinden]

how is that not a takedown?????????????? jesus

[@Jm20375]

When he’s actually behind him Nolf has neither hand nor knee down. Just because he initially had his arm wrapped around his back doesn’t make it a takedown. Either way, give him the two, Nolf changes game plan and would’ve won anyway, no question.

[@tonytolbert1452]

@@Jm20375 clearly, you are wrong.

[@kenstine6008]

Josh Miller He is sitting on his right hip Right knee down That’s 2 You have no idea what would have happened after it was2-0

[@Jm20375]

Clearly I’m wrong? Lol clearly not. Every wrestling group and forum I’m a part of agrees with me as does the scoreboard. And again, give him the two - Nolf would’ve won either way. If you deny that you are truly delusional.

[@PESGmanag]

@@Jm20375 I understand you're probably a Nolf fan and so are your buddies on the penn state wrestling forum but that is obviously a two and you can't say he would have won anyway when Nolf won by a point.

[@1158scott]

I don't know enough about wrestling to give any opinion. Both wrestler/comnentators said it was a takedown. I thought I'd get a consensous answer & explanation here, but apparently not.

[@InternetMunchies]

Lol..never has control..even in slow motion

[@frankwasbetter915]

wheres the full match? He def got robbed btw

[@xenonmaster6668]

Charles Charlemagne At least it ain’t the finals match

[@bilbobaggins7095]

It was 2 but if they had given the two nolf would've just taken him back down in like 10 seconds

[@dr.a7521]

Hey can you do a frame by frame analysis of Hassan Yazdani, I wonder why he keeps winning so many championships and I wanna learn from him

[@wrestlingscience]

The video I'm currently working on is on Sadulaev but once I've watched more of Yazdani's matches he will be the very next one!

[@dr.a7521]

Wrestling Science cool! 😅

[@l.rongardner2150]

Yazdani just mauls his opponents, overwhelming them with his great strength, intensity, and non-stop attacking.

[@krymsix574]

This was called as 2 pts during the match. The slow mo angles utilized by the camera crew in replay seemed to only confirm that result. Every commentator, almosy all with significant wrestling experience mind you, also agreed that it was 2 points for a takedown. They all seemed pretty shocked when it was reversed. That wasn't the worst call though because that was at the start of the match. Anything could have happened during the match after that. The worst call was at the end of the match when Hidlay got robbed of a match winning takedown at thr edge of the circle. He clearly had control and 3 points of contact down for Nolf. Nolf had a whizzer, but the arm had to get to his hips before the whizzer could be in. Hidlay was all the way behind Nolfs hips. It was another 2. To make matters worse Hildays coaches threw the challenge flag in and the refs literally threw it back and said " we're not going to review that" even though they by rule are supposed to at least go through the review process no matter what once that challenge is thrown.

[@user-eg7nr1wn4o]

State will more than likely get the calls going their way….

[@stevewildasin6726]

That was a takedown. Even if every ref in town says it isn't. It was a takedown.

[@youarerightboss]

A continuation and NO takedown.

[@youarerightboss]

No control, therefore, no takedown. Good call.

[@chadroberts3727]

Continuation? Not when 3 points are touching the mat and he is covered. Clear and evident takedown.

[@youarerightboss]

@@chadroberts3727 , the officials reviewed it. NO takedown.

[@chadroberts3727]

They did. Just like numerous other calls that were reviewed and still got wrong. If you cant admit that, then you're just a PSU homer. Not a true and unbiased opinion.

[@youarerightboss]

Didn't have full control to warrant a takedown, just a continuation, and time ran out.

[@joeyleach9151]

full control? any control on a takedown is 2. do they have to have FULL control in overtime? look at suriano vs fix. takedown for a second but control

[@youarerightboss]

@@joeyleach9151 , Hidlay 😭😭 😭😭 😭 didn't have adequate(full) control to warrant a takedown. Plus, it was a continuation, NOT a takedown by any degree. The referees reviewed it and fabricated the proper call, NO TAKEDOWN. Even if Hidlay did get the takedown, Nolf would have adjusted, accordingly, and won the match. Get over it, already, or don't. Nolf won and that will never change.

[@youarerightboss]

@@joeyleach9151 , learn the finer distinctions in life and wrestling. As soon as Suriano got the takedown with full control(arms wrapped around both legs and behind Fix with Fix's hands on the mat), unlike Hidlay's failed attempt with NO control(just a continuation), the referee correctly awarded 2 points and the match was over.

[@nickfisher9540]

Dicky is dumb

[@jasonswift9310]

@@youarerightboss you been eating beovos and charizo with cream for too long .....need to lay off them protien.

[@Ajc99130]

Nolf still would’ve won the match. Kid can score whenever he wants. In the second period score Nolf got out and took Hidlay down right away. So people please stop. With that bull shit crying.

[@DTS_I]

That left knee didn’t go down. Probably why it wasn’t 2.

[@jwalk3107]

Nolf said it was a takedown in his interview

[@ws8061]

Say what you want but I think Hidlay is going to catch Nolf and be better at the next level and I don't really have a "team". Could be wrong though. I also think Zahid will be beating Dake in short order as well and people call me dumb for that lol.

[@michaelswick4251]

No control. No two.

[@jaguaron007]

Everybody saw it those 2 points only PS fans and the ref didn’t

[@youarerightboss]

NOT everybody.

[@NorthStar420]

They’re obviously the same caliber wrestler. Win without a doubt, don’t let the refs decide it.

[@imnotabotrlyimnot]

Looks like a take down to me.

[@youarerightboss]

Wrong. Just a continuation. NO takedown. Correct call after the officials' review.

[@codywalshvideos]

TWOOO!!!! Penn state gets away with everything

[@tombalthis7199]

Nolf lost on the mat .Refs took win from Hidley. I am A Nolf fan not biased .Jason did not win that match .It was a dark spot on NCAA tournament last year.Champions at times get beat or upset that match was an upset that never should have been nullified .Hidley was the true NCAA champion last year he was cheated and robbed of that.

[@youarerightboss]

Hidley😭😭😭😭😭👀🤭😅😂🤣.

[@Ajc99130]

Dicky Ball. I guess you didn’t want the full match haha.

[@youarerightboss]

@@Ajc99130 , didn't 'want' 👀🤭😅😂🤣 the full match? But I did 'watch' the full match, Jason ' the Hidley slayer' Nolf won the match fair and square. Hidley🙁😒☹️😞🤤😥😢😪😭👀🤭😅😂🤣just might be lucky enough to qualify the superseding two annums.

[@Ajc99130]

Dicky Ball so funny Dicky Doo. You knew what I meant. But Hidlay never had a shot. To beat Nolf. Hidlay best shot was last year in the finals. Where Nolf was injured. He couldn’t get it done then. Like he couldn’t get it done in the semis. Just. An heads Up it’s Hidlay not Hidley

[@youarerightboss]

@@Ajc99130 , keep your panties on, cupcake snowflake. Hidley should be a 2Xer, if he continues to press. That's Richard to you, Bj Smith💩👀🤭😅😂🤣😋😁.

[@Ajc99130]

Dicky Ball. Hahaha Hidlay won’t be a 2x dicky Dooo. Just put some respect on people’s name before spelling their name wrong OK Dick haha. That name really Suits doesn’t it Richard To Dick.

[@kylecerra8277]

Nolf never had three points of contact on the mat. No take down

[@chadroberts3727]

Lol, watch the slow mo again. Knee, foot and right hand. 3 points while covered. Takedown!

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

In college you don’t need three points of contact. If your knee is down you are down. A knee and foot is two points of contact.

[@youarerightboss]

Jason Nolf, 3X NCAA DIVISION I INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL WRESTLING CHAMPION. WE ARE... PENN STATE NATIONAL WRESTLING CHAMPIONS 8 OUT OF 9 YEARS WINNING AND PINNING!!!!!!!!

[@youmang]

I'm no psu fan but I'm excited to see Nolf on the international freestyle stage. He's got some tough russians and Iranians I'd like to see him wrestle. Let's go Nolf wreck Iran and Russia please

[@karterstinton9101]

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[@InternetMunchies]

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[@skymanchronicles8936]

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