That is a great installation. Major kudos to the tech he did that work.
@z4isshuaige Жыл бұрын
For a 3 years Furnance Ac guy like me. Boiler air handler water line still looks like maze to me. Hopefully i will understand it soon. Nice video!
@kevinhoffman82142 жыл бұрын
that system looked brand new to me , I would have a cow if it had to be replaced with all the pipes and pumps
@chiefwiyas77633 жыл бұрын
Just got my Gas License in Ontario and didnt learn boilers too much and going into the plumbing trade. Definitely learned a lot from this video, work was absolutely clean and is a standard to achieve for me. Thanks! Superb work!
@tranceaddiction3 жыл бұрын
That's a real shame because I had the same experience from HiMark in Toronto.
@chiefwiyas77633 жыл бұрын
@@tranceaddiction I did mine from HiMark in Ottawa haha
@Addarios3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you were able to learn a lot from our video, and thanks for the compliment!! Boilers are their own beast haha but hopefully you'll get a chance to work on some in the field. Congrats on getting your gas license and best of luck to you in your career field!
@colin46852 жыл бұрын
You got your gas licence and didnt learn boilers? What the hell did u learn then?
@kwacz2 жыл бұрын
@@colin4685 just goes to show licensed does not mean qualified. I can get a license for anything but that doesn't mean i can ir should be working on it. There is more to learn past getting a license before you should be working on stuff. I have seen some unlicensed people who know more and can do a better job than a licensed quote unquote professional.
@FrancisKoczur3 жыл бұрын
That home owner wasted a lot of money on that prefab when they already had the pipe work in.
@Kobe29261 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree, I don't understand why so many techs feel like a complete overhaul is ALWAYS the way to go. Only the best among them can recognize that you build on top of an existing design thats as good as these home owners had. I can imagine that sales pitch though 'if we keep any of the old system, we'd be compromising your investment' - no you wouldn't but your prefab guy wouldn't be pulling his weight would he?
@TheRTM Жыл бұрын
I was just about ask about that..(pressing vs soldering on a system like this) thanks for the heads up.
@Addarios Жыл бұрын
Glad to help :)
@anthonyspadafora13843 жыл бұрын
Also not to nitpick but your mechanic claimed the water softner deionized the water. It does not. It performs an ion exchange, TDS remains constant. Caleffi does indeed produce a mixed resin bed unit that will actually deionize the water in the boiler.
@AlfonsoRamirez-fg5tm Жыл бұрын
This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. kzbin.infoUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
@edwinrivas75652 жыл бұрын
If your tech is concerned about pinholes in copper from remnant flux, he should also start deburring his cuts. Water turbulence can erode the pipe quicker than the flux can. And a water softener does not deionize water, it only removes the minerals that make the water hard.
@jimanderson25182 жыл бұрын
Lmao ..you beat me to it ....37 yr tech....and that compression tools sucks
@maestrovso Жыл бұрын
I too want to make the similar comment. The flux on the copper is the least of your concern unless they are from the 60s acid flux. Modern flux has no such problem. Those crimped copper fitting are unobtainium for DIY but you sure pay for them having a hydronic system installed by the "pros". I have well water and the last thing I want to do is to add chemicals to soften my good tasting water. Everything has tradeoffs. I spotted they didn't bother to debur the pipe after cutting it with the fancy cutter also.
@anthonyspadafora13843 жыл бұрын
I have never used an expansion tank mount like that. I see you have an isolation valve on the expansion tank but no way to release the captive water pressure in the tank before checking the air pressure in the bladder. Does this mount have something built in to isolate and drain?
@FrustratedBaboon11 ай бұрын
How come you didn't install a manifold under the boiler? Just curious.
@6969allgood Жыл бұрын
A low loss header will make this system more effecient and stop back circulation. You should always use low loss headers when you have multiple pumped zones
@marshalltucker94693 жыл бұрын
So will that act as a tankless water heater would?
@silaswatt6519 Жыл бұрын
Why cut the stud?
@glenarseneau12313 жыл бұрын
If I was the home owner I would have went with a combi unit and gotten ride if that tank, did they get that option?
@Baerschi1003 жыл бұрын
The tank turns up the efficiency
@glenarseneau12313 жыл бұрын
@@Baerschi100 I can’t believe we can no longer vent in cvpc they want that central thurm pipe now
@paul060623 жыл бұрын
We have a combo at the house every time it demands domestic hot water it stops the hot water to go to the zones and it only goes to the hot water domestic hot water why The plumber can’t even figure it out they’re all the same they do everything the same way. so now we use a boiler mate which is hooked up to one of the zones which heats the coil that heats up my hot water and I don’t even use the domestic hot water in the boiler and that works fine
@user-bw6xz7vm3l2 жыл бұрын
@@paul06062 if u have a taco zone board and it has priority switch, that's what it sounds like
@1giveme3 жыл бұрын
Milked them for an entire new system, wow, that’s a sales guys..
@SpeedyWaterHeaters3 жыл бұрын
Nobody forced their hand to sign on the dotted line
@chrisroy70852 жыл бұрын
RIP OFF = my thoughts exactly! Notice how they didn't show the "leak". It could have been a simple maintenance issue (I work on HTP boilers... easy to fix). They tossed out a lot of good copper, ALL of the zone pumps (I bet they kept those!). What a waste. Quite a bit of salesmanship indeed.
@jimimcintosh77965 ай бұрын
The lingo salesman use give you no choice mentally. They go to school for sales and how to direct customers over the cliff @@SpeedyWaterHeaters
@tommyteamer9037 Жыл бұрын
I love it
@globeflicker92163 жыл бұрын
Do you chamfer and ream pipe ends for pro press joints? I didn’t see if you did.
@roberthegedus50223 жыл бұрын
Didn't look like it. Also cut through a wall stud for the venting.
@jeffreyjohn20373 жыл бұрын
@@roberthegedus5022 yeah, what was up with cutting the stud? could've moved over to avoid that. hackery. 👎
@jeffreyjohn20373 жыл бұрын
They're hacks
@chrisroy70852 жыл бұрын
Cringe-worthy hacks indeed. But at least they wiped their feet (sarcasm).
@shaciarenkizer91082 жыл бұрын
How much a system like this cost for a 3unit/ mulit family 9bed 3bath units ?
@louietheboilerman3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, great channel
@Addarios3 жыл бұрын
Hey Louie, glad to see you found our KZbin channel! I'm glad you liked this vid and I hope you're enjoying our other content too! Thanks so much for your continued support, it's always a treat to read your comments on here and on Insta :)
@joshuacassino72972 жыл бұрын
How much would two combi systems be? In a multi family rough. Rough price
@drewmurphy27962 жыл бұрын
Was this a natural gas or propane system?
@Philadelphia191473 жыл бұрын
You got taken to the cleaners
@kevindean79523 жыл бұрын
I installed a Rinnai here at my house and had nothing but trouble since year 4 it's now 8 yrs old
@misterbeetz3 жыл бұрын
I have a Rinnai boiler for heat and Rinnai tankless for DHW. Both running solid with no issues for 10 years now.
@joem2197 Жыл бұрын
It's really the skill and knowledge of the Team of installers. Contractor quoting me a lot more than others and mentioned quality of workmanship in our 1 hour meeting at least 3times.
@daversj3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but pro press doesn’t last as long as a solder joint. I am seeing corrosion at pro press joints in under ten years. O rings wont last on a primary/secondary heat loop with high temps. I didn’t see the installer deburr pipe or clean it before he pressed it either.
@user-yl6yy2yj3n Жыл бұрын
Them compression fittings will leak when them rings corrode 100%. Job security for the plumbers 😂
@williamgildea83483 жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful work guys.
@haydensnart24233 жыл бұрын
I'm from the UK, do you not need a designated cold supply off the mains water for drinking etc? Or is the water there not acceptable to drink?
@em_dee102 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to have a backflow preventer on the line supplying the boiler.
@johnnyjax64443 жыл бұрын
it would be helpful if you can list some prices of installing such system
@johnnyjax64443 жыл бұрын
@@Addarios I appreciate your effort to help with the explanation it helped us to see the ballpark values of such projects , we do understand that cost change depend on size of the house as well, one more general question , now as I know most these Boiler system runs on Oil , is there any way that later in future we can upgrade these system to run on Solar Power ? or there is no way that this system can be upgrade or support to work with Solar power , in that case later if we want to power by solar power do we need to redo all and buy new equipment's ?
@Addarios3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyjax6444 So actually most of these boilers I've seen in the Mass area have run off of natural gas, rather than oil. I haven't seen anything about linking solar panels to these, and to be honest that's not really something our company has much experience in. You could run this system off of electricity, but if you're heating the whole home vs just your hot water then it may be more efficient (and more reliable) to just use gas. If you're set on pursuing solar power for your home, you might want to look into Mitsubishi Mini Splits since they are specifically designed to run off of electricity. Also, since their installation already requires an electrician, it may be cheaper and easier to have the solar panels connected to the mini splits since they'll already be there for the job. Bear in mind, I'm really not qualified to make suggestions on solar panels but hopefully that gives you some direction in your search for the answer!
@davidmcnally84003 жыл бұрын
Nice clean job
@neckofthewoods243 жыл бұрын
total on that??
@northeastanglerstv16323 жыл бұрын
It’s different for each install it depends on how much material is needed or whether you go pre fab or fab on site. There’s a lot of variations that go into an estimate before a sale is made. I used to be an estimator for a company the price of unit is always the same depending on model and size but it’s the materials that will make it more or less in the ends as well as labor.
@neckofthewoods243 жыл бұрын
@@northeastanglerstv1632 sure but I’m asking for this one.
@joem2197 Жыл бұрын
Read comments below. What type of water shortens a system like this. Treat my well water with Calcite and Corosex 10%, and water softener. Have a ph of 6.8 plus. Anyone know ? Maybe that's why this system is being replaced. If a HE unit is used, was told to have a good service plan in place.
@kevindean79523 жыл бұрын
We use pvc for the exhaust here in Ct
@l.a.m76453 жыл бұрын
I saw a navien system that had no water feeder installed.
@robertgillis20763 жыл бұрын
They have a built in water feeder.
@ziggyc44743 жыл бұрын
How do I start to learn this trade?
@northeastanglerstv16323 жыл бұрын
Get a job in the field but some basic tools and get after it! Learning on the job is much better then going to school because school doesn’t teach you real life scenarios like the trade will in the field and also don’t give up you’ll start from the bottom but you will go up from there!
@Avalanche22 жыл бұрын
Seems these high efficiency boilers and heaters have a really short lifespan, that original couldn't have been that old.
@bc66143 жыл бұрын
why go down with the venting?
@glenarseneau12313 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing at first but I think that was just a different angle if it wasn’t you definitely cannot do that
@SuperCullen69 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how quick these customers called back I feel bad for them. That exhaust pipe goes down then back up. The product of high efficiency combustion is water. Once the pipe fills with water no more heat for them
@ML-lg4ky3 жыл бұрын
Flush and maintain these low mass boilers impeccably otherwise they’re garbage after a few years.
@BostonMark2 жыл бұрын
The Mag trap is on the supply side That’s like putting on your baseball glove backwards
@realdeal1393 жыл бұрын
Come to Ny, you will become a millionaire
@thisoldmuthafunkinhouse9345 Жыл бұрын
Nice work 👍🏻
@Addarios Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@jimmymcl95123 жыл бұрын
flux will not turn into a pinhole.
@northeastanglerstv16323 жыл бұрын
Flux over time will corrode the pipe and eventually a small hole will appear but it’s years down the road not immediately.
@mar1video2 жыл бұрын
@@northeastanglerstv1632 - about 1,000 years. Give it or take 5
@wildmandon13 жыл бұрын
I can't that local and state laws would allow this boiler to be vented so close under a window. I'm sure even the install manual would prohibit this.
@MisterTwister883 жыл бұрын
You would be wrong
@Baerschi1003 жыл бұрын
Here in Germany, specificaly in Hamburg i've seen natiral gas fired so called wall ovens (Wandofen), that have their intake and exhaust in one double walled pipe right underneath the windows. But i dont know the laws in the USA.
@anthonyspadafora13843 жыл бұрын
If it is a two pipe system only 1 foot of clearance is needed from a window. If you choose to do a 1 pipe then it must be 4 feet. Obviously this is because when you draw inside air you create a negative pressure inside the home as with 2 pipe systems you do not.
@jacobmcphail-monty99653 жыл бұрын
If they are in Ontario if the unit is over 100kbtu it’s 3ft to a window
@paul060623 жыл бұрын
You guys did excellent work your vents your exhaust and your intake is at the wrong place because it says in the book that you have to be at least 3 feet from any opening which you have a window right above that. Now as your water softener as I live in the northern part of Maine all my life they only work to a certain point and they gotta be serviced now and then and your boiler Has’s to be serviced at the same time that’s what I’ve learned. now the boiler you are using which I’ve had a lot of complaints on it why I have no idea and their service is not that great is the heat exchanger still copper if it is they’re still gonna have a problem with it. This time around I bought a western house that has a stainless steel heat exchanger in it I’ve had it for a couple years and working fine but I have to have it serviced every fall like everything else the water softener that we’ve got is not that great either and the one that we had before that wasn’t any better the people that sold us that water softeners in the past they’re all the same they only work to a certain point they will never take out all the stuff out of your water but that’s my opinion no one else
@musicnerd722 жыл бұрын
That was the most incomprehensible rambling of a post I ever saw. 🙄
@stephenburns32623 жыл бұрын
Nice sales video lol
@Addarios3 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks! It started as a client testimonial and we got a little carried away with the system install
@adamvapes96692 жыл бұрын
I’ve been working as a refrigeration mechanic in Ontario Canada for over 25 years in the last five years I have been doing a lot of These wall hung hi efficiency lo mass boilers, yes I generally find it’s not brand specific but most of the problems with these units are installation related I’ve changed over 20 boiler’s under five years old they have been installed from The largest companies around here to the smallest you really need to know what you’re doing above and beyond reading the installation manual, No primary secondary piping, magnets installed on a system that is all copper pipes and copper baseboards with no cast-iron even the circulator was bronze what’s a magnet gonna do it’s an absolute joke a lot of these guys in my area Are coming out of Niagara skilled trades academy we refer to them as GAS dummies they have a gas license but couldn’t throw a piece of pipe if their life depended on it
@trashpanda2396 Жыл бұрын
That left over flux will not cause a pin hole. Unfortunately some professionals really know how to scare ppl and some ppl will believe everything they say $$
@aidantrufant97992 жыл бұрын
Should pay someone in your company to pre-fab those boards instead of buying them from FW Webb
@BostonMark2 жыл бұрын
zone pumps sitting on top of the primary look awful close to the primary tees looks more designed for ease of assembly than functionality also the mag trap on the supply side is like playing baseball with your glove on backwards
@mikev.10342 жыл бұрын
👍🤙🤘
@jeffdinkleburg47733 жыл бұрын
r u guys plumbers
@Addarios3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, we started as a plumbing company but have since branched into all types of HVAC work, electrical, and drain cleaning. That being said, all the Service Experts in this video are primarily plumbers.
@jeffreyjohn20373 жыл бұрын
@@Addarios some of your wiring is shoddy looking. and cutting a wall stud?
@jonh4053 Жыл бұрын
you shouldnt finish your vent pipes lower then you starts lmao those pipes are going to condensate and instead of that condensation running back to the boiler and through the drain on the boiler its gonna sit in the lowest part of that pipe. you went through a stud too thats scuffed
@doubletapplayz370211 ай бұрын
Pro press😂
@ryanmcananey62452 жыл бұрын
That guy explaining the press vs. solder didn’t sound to confident in what he was saying. I bet in the back of his mind he was thinking about how much fun it would be to sweat that system jn
@17johnnyfreedom76 Жыл бұрын
"That will eventually turn into a pin hole" but yet you are replacing the boiler and no pin hole. Those rubbers will never last longer than a proper solder joint.
@AnastasiosPotamitis2 жыл бұрын
lousy explanation,the plumbing part is well designed and connected. But what is the purpose of the music and the opinion of the home owners like...they know! That's only my opinion ......
@woonsockettruthseeker90092 ай бұрын
There's a $20,000 job
@tomlewis7827 ай бұрын
Wasted time watching a commercial that made the click bait promise of explaining how the system works.
@ebebop2 жыл бұрын
You Americans really don’t care about efficiency when it comes to heating. Unless that’s a hotel way to many pumps and overall a rubbish boiler I work on them sometimes over in England.
@stizandelasage9 ай бұрын
Terribly expensive design i know your discipline
@MD.LeQuack Жыл бұрын
If u paid more than 3k u got scammed go get your money back
@lachcik50842 жыл бұрын
omfg....pro press fittings on a boiler system....oh nooo
@tylero8595 Жыл бұрын
HTP???? Garbage. Its just TP.
@melarky855510 ай бұрын
another knuckle that doesn't do service and leaves a disaster for the next guy
@justinj8149 Жыл бұрын
😂 cmon man.. you aren’t making them zone boards.. FW Webb is.. you know it.. I 100% know it.. and now everyone else knows it..