High Elves Legendary Vortex Campaign Livestream

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

"Hey you wanna break this alliance you have so i can attack you?" "Sure!"

[@SaurianSavior]

His name is Alexander Dittrich. Absolute genius.

[@alexwynters600]

"Recruiting a unit just cause they look cool is the worst reason for recruiting it" I'm sorry sir, I feel like you misspoke. I believe you meant to say 'best' reason.

[@sicthemutt]

Lol

[@saarlan6455]

On a completely unrelated note. What to do with full stack of dragons.

[@imrekagan7505]

@@saarlan6455 divide and conquer basicly, isolate and kill their ranged units, snipe the enemy lord with breath attacks and poke their anti large units with breath attacks before going in melee if enemy is strong

[@Pikachu790]

I can't believe that you could ask them to cancel a defensive alliance, and with nothing on the table, have moderate right off the bat. AND THEY ACCEPT IT.

[@lvsoad22]

i really dont understand the diplomacy in this game sometimes

[@MrBoyBurrito]

1:26:50 RIP the spearmen who got yeeted off the walls by a giant flaming bird

[@anoxmous7052]

Lol

[@kyleranney8930]

Anyone use the phrase yeeted is a tard

[@hi5kokonu124]

Long time watcher, new subscriber...I have still yet to complete a campaign, but from watching you I've definitely made leaps forward, and adjusted my frame of mind in attacking problems...much appreciated, keep the vids coming!

[@AntiX_in_jeans]

Asking to break defensive alliance and striking back is good, yes-yes.

[@ShionWinkler]

Legend, Alliances are the best way to cheese a confederation, you make an alliance with someone, declare war and a bunch of other people and drag your new allies into them, then sue for peace with everyone, and bam they are left with a bunch of wars all alone and are suddenly very willing to get a confederation. 😁😁😁

[@bane6343]

i think because of legendary difficulty though, you cant peace out easily

[@TheNaturalTweak]

You guys get to peace out?

[@arthurmorganlefaye7626]

@@bane6343 bro i play on easy and I can't peace out

[@FreeSpirit985]

Many thanks, man. You definitely converted me to the Dark God of Cheese. I learnt to steamroll early game battles foregoing the old "hold the line" thingy, to actually win sieges without a sad amount of losses, and several little things to manage in the course of a campaign. I mostly play on Hard/Hard because I don't feel like having to play almost every battle by hand (so I'm a low level Acolyte of Cheese at best), but you definitely showed me how it's done. Great. Keep up the astonishingly good work!

[@saintjimmy720]

Bob Saget 🤣 it was just so unexpected and I can’t stop laughing

[@MrNyerk]

Regarding the discussion about using phoenix as mounts: in the lore, leaders of the phoenix guard do use them as mount. These guys are called Anointed of Asuryan. In TW:W2, if they were to be a thing in the future, imo they should be implemented as heroes.

[@Dalle89]

The mongols broke the meta with horse archers. The ultimate cheese tactic.

[@shimmereyes8984]

When you said the thing about flavor armies i started to sweat. Because i knew what was possible to become alive.

[@torquevonthorne948]

That 4:31:00 long love story with Alarielle was an hell of a simp romance

[@Xedem01]

Im dead hahaha

[@DiZtheJedi]

I still can't believe CA hasn't made it so that Aliathra appears when Tyrion and Alarielle confederate. What a missed opportunity.

[@cabz5872]

Fun fact, chrace will decline and break a defensive alliance with saphery if you go to war with saphery, dont even have to ask for saphery to break alliance, found it hilarious when I first did it

[@SpritemaniacJ]

I never understood why people say that Tyrion is a good first Campaign for newcomers. High elves are super awkward to fight with because fighting one of them makes the other ones hate you. Add in the fact that you start surrounded by them it makes it really challenging to figure out who you should take out and who you should leave alone.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Not quite. There's Dark Elves and Greenskins to fight on Ulthuan. Once that's done with, just go a-viking to Naggaroth and deal with the Druchii.

[@CatsLeMatts]

@@JoshSweetvale Could always head south to deal with Brittonia/Tomb Kings/Last Defenders or shoot for a confederation with Imrik or Teclis to expand outwards while Tyrion defends Lothern. Sartosa isn't a bad place to secure, either.

[@MrSkeltal268]

I found teclis a much easier starting campaign. I remember when this game came out and it was recommended to start with Tyrion in the game, and that teclis was hard. I found the opposite to be true.

[@rsbah]

​@@MrSkeltal268 gonna give that a try! Thanks for the recommend

[@pleih]

I remember watching your original Tyrion play through when the game first came out. It's interesting watching you play it again after all this time.

[@noogai3212]

I was at war with the elves as Skaven, so I sent an engineer to teach them a lesson.

[@BobMcBobJr]

4:36:00 Salvation Isles is a 6/5 defensible settlement now.

[@torquevonthorne948]

That justifies its name

[@ShionWinkler]

The one thing I always have hated about the Total war games, their diplomacy is so broken. I have had her at over 200 rep with me, and offered her 20,000 gold and she still said no, while I was number 1 in strength and she was in the 20's. It's like how you can have maxed out relations with someone and an alliance, and they will still for no reason attack you.

[@FahQx]

from what i've read, if you don't own a certain DLC certain people won't confederate no matter what you do.

[@ryugurena3327]

Fuck alliances in this game. Never again, I prefer to just go solo.

[@lolman987654]

I enjoy your self-meme thumbnails.

[@WithouttheFluff]

That chuckle at the one hour mark was so cute omg

[@J0krswy1d]

Lol.. is the fire pigeon taking flaming poops on those poor dark elves there in the beginning?!

[@TehSiets]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!

[@GentlemanBystander]

"She just keeps getting stronger." As he continues to send her money so she can recruit larger armies.

[@obsidiansiriusblackheart]

03:06:00 "got kicked off the youtube server lemme read the super chat again. So VB Aquatic sai-" 🤣

[@bluerationality]

This is fun. I’ve seen Legend play Tyrion and Allariel a few times, so I was kind of hoping for Teclis.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

he did a this is total war campaign with teclis

[@Pierre-gk5ky]

It's funny that you mention how wrong you were to disband that phoenix in your first Vortex campaign. I remember watching you do that and instantly dismissing you and thinking "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about." It's nice to see you have no problem admitting when you're wrong, it's a rare quality. I was also wrong about you, and everything you say about how terrible melee infantry is at higher difficulties is exactly why I stopped playing higher battle difficulties, I just hate that now.

[@kostalazovic5135]

Game is much harder now , it is no longer possible to snipe melee troops before they reach you and shred your missile units

[@theowl6548]

49:41 "phoenix guards are the best melee infantry that you will never recruite" Also legend on bis first high elf campain: phoenix guards for days

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

there were no sisters back then. now high elves have sisters and they are pretty much the best in every situation and not even that expensive, especially compared to dragons, which will even drain the richest high elves

[@spikertaker]

Also Legend about his first high elf campaign: "I had no idea what I was doing." about a hundred times.

[@mattb6646]

Perfect timing, I just got total war recently and started a campaign a few days ago.. on easy/easy.. maybe I can try a new one and step it up since I atleast somewhat understand the game now

[@johndeschlong591]

focus on growth and money first not military- build a strong economy to then support better troops early build slots are precious, build untainted where needed. dont overextend too early, its always better to have 2-3 wealthy provinces than loads of undefended poor settlements. watch online battles to get a grip with battles. in general military and defensive alliances are a detriment by dragging you into wars, try to keep your reliability high. once a provence is fully grown you can demolish the basic growth building. most importantly have fun, you will feel frustration but then comes greatness

[@mattb6646]

@@johndeschlong591 thanks for the tips! I'm about 150 turns in now and I own the center island, branching out to the left island and crushing naggarand now, but thanks ill take the advise

[@a77ack69]

Fantastic content. I learn so much from these

[@CamoflagedTumbleweed]

Yay for vortex! Looking forward to it! 🥦🦖

[@adults_talking]

dude legend lives in the future

[@Chyrnobyl66]

i wonder if that was really Mike Gange from the Stern show subbing at 1:25:00

[@morpheusbutasasquirtle4431]

I usually just play vortex cause of the smaller map and shorter loading times, usually when im just wanting a shorter game with some cutscenes. I always save the rituals for the very end though so by the time i have to deal with chaos, im already with multiple fully fleshed out lords, a booming economy, and mulitple doomstack armies. It does make things a bit worrisome at the end if i dont have the lead on resources.

[@sabru72]

4:33:00 "We're selling the company. Don't worry, your jobs are safe"

[@noogai3212]

I hope you see this, but there is a way to guess where the chaos forces show up. It's basically wherever your armies aren't. If your armies are at the borders them they'll spawn in the center of your territory and if you're in the center of your territory then they'll spawn at your borders.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

they once spawned directly next to my strongest army. chaos and unknown skaven. I could beat them all with lightning strike and auto resolve without losing a single unit in one turn on very hard with sisters doom stack

[@noogai3212]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Oh same thing that happened to me with Clan Skryre I had the Doomstack with only 2 plague priests and even the ambushes couldn't wipe out anyone. But again, only one guy was in Lustria and the rest was colonizing Ulthuan.

[@RockTheEternal]

On my multiple Lothern Vortex playthroughs, I've noticed that ratbois and chaos bois spawn on 3 sections in Ulthuan: Avelorn, Tyranoc and Northen Yvresse and they always chose the spot with least amount of armies, basically quickly uniting Ulthuan and chilling with enough armies present at those regions, while other forces start their "friendly expeditions" ensures that you take out the trash the same turn they spawn

[@vanman118]

"I'd be open to piece if they weren't such pricks"

[@minos69666]

Legend, about what you say at 4:12:10 not all that works on legendary works in other difficulties, i play normal and the enemy does things that it does not do to you. Like charging being the defenders or just not fight with all his troups in the same moment, so sometimes its pointless to try to waste their ammo coz they use only 2 or 3 from his 7 archers to shoot, so the process would take forever, i've even seen missile cavalry charging up without shooting even an arrow... Sorry for the grammar, not my first language.

[@badfish5447link]

3:48:05 how did he force them to use their summon? was it the attack or crossing over the walls?

[@thejunsk]

Burny baws, from riding phenoix

[@moxen001]

First campaign ever playing as Tyrion... I cannot get this lady to confederate for the life of me. 200+ friendship, higher power ranking...

[@Lugisto]

Do you own her DLC? If you don't you don't get the option to confederate her.

[@shimmereyes8984]

Hi legend. Well this campaign wasn't expected from you >:3. By the way I think high elves are a tricky race to come along and figure out its potential. Wheter melee infantry, monsters or missile infantry there's good options (never white lions of shame) but in papper thare's actuaclly more options that do not deserve to be considered practically. That's why I think a lot o people struggles with them, because there's no obvious choices of army dislays. Once you know their strenght lies partly on the archery and also their economy (mage and handmaiden's traits),and if you want to, strong dragon displays, and partly with handmaidens, nobles and mages bearing the lore of light for maximun efficiency of your armies, there's some problem again: the displays are not intuitive in most cases, so wheter you try to exploit thier potential or seek the enemy's weaknesses, you'll have to constantly make up a solution for these situations, rather than exploit the same strengths like other races. So that's my appreciation. Hope you enjoy it and i see you next time F*****

[@spikertaker]

Every fantasy story ever taught me this 1 thing: Elves are good with bows, you got Elves? USE BOWS!

[@shimmereyes8984]

@@spikertaker Best bowmen in my opinion are the Noldor from J. R. R Tolkien's universe. The best melee warriors, Eldar, from Warhammer 40k and best overhaul,THE Asur

[@CharliMorganMusic]

I carried her books for her but she doesn't put out. I don't get it.

[@Sarsol1989]

Is there a good guide for High Elves (and other races for that matter) for which units are good to pick, which heroes and how to build them? Playing my first Vortex campaign as them with no DLC (aside from free ones and stuff i got from owning WH1). Struggling somewhat since ranged options are limited for mid/late game (using Lothern Sea Guard mostly atm). Probably going to get the DLC at some point later, but not sure as I hate the idea of having to buy DLC because good units are locked behind it. Regardless, Lord, Hero and Mage Builds (as well as loremasters) would be much appreciated. Tried to look online, but it feels like a lot of guides are dated.

[@johnmcmanus2447]

For mages, get light mage with entrepreneur trait and rush Net of Amyntok and Arcane Conduit. For Nobles, get Frugal trait and stack melee attack, defense, missile resistance and replenish troops. Recruit bad nobles (they don't require influence and have bad traits), and use them to secure influence on enemy settlements so you can get tons of influence for good heroes and lords

[@johnmcmanus2447]

For Loremasters, i usually don't put them in armies and I look for Fruitful trait. +5 growth local province, +2 growth factionwide. If you get the DLC, spam sisters of Avelorn and get Handmaidens. Get entrepreneur handmaidens for money and sit them in your richest province, then get Resistant handmaidens and put them in an army, then build up their melee stats and replenish troops skills

[@michaelt4366]

Why does it say 7ish hours on the thumb nail but 4 hours in the actual video?

[@Xeper-I-Set]

Still rendering

[@MrJakeasaur98]

Have to disagree about using multishot on the tower over single shot with the Eagle Claw. When I used it in my Legendary campaign, the single shot did more consistent damage to the tower and it only cost about half of the ammo available - here legend used multi shot and it cost about 80% of his ammo.

[@Tosnoob]

What an unlucky diplomatic start, three factions with the Wary trait, yeesh.

[@Black-Fish]

Is it me or they nerfed and decrease the amount of archers for the elves?

[@Goateman1984]

Why does his bolt thrower have 4? When I started my campaign, it only has 2 for that unit.

[@SweatyYeti420]

Check your unit size settings, legend plays on Ultra where bolt throwers have 4. You might be on medium or even small.

[@Meyna86]

It would have never even crossed my mind that a graphics setting could affect the gameplay like this. I tried the first few turns of this campaign on Legendary following this video yet during the siege of Angerrial I could never do more than 70% damage to the tower. Tried multiple times. 2 Bolt Throwers just weren't enough. Changed that one setting to ultra, restarted the campaign and destroyed the tower on the first try. The game seemed much easier all around afterwards despite the higher numbers per unit. So thanks for the explanation. Much appreciated.

[@SweatyYeti420]

Przemek Meyna I wouldn’t say that Ultra unit size is easier overall, only that ranged units are more powerful. Magic spells don’t really scale with unit size, so they’re vastly more potent the smaller the unit size setting is. Say a spell does 750 direct damage to a unit, that spell would be VASTLY more effective on small unit scale where units have several thousand less hp than ultra scale units. This is even more true with Healing Magic’s.

[@perfect5933]

I just beat the vortex campaign with with the high elves I was behind on my rituals so I had to launch several invasions against the all the other factions and the other clans that were ahead of me it ended up working I took all there ritual sites and held them until my last one was ready then I did my last one and won the battle with 8 dragons lol

[@patrickb.8485]

Great video, makes me wish Tyrion had a chariot option though......I guess I should ask how do chariots fare on Legendary........?

[@spikertaker]

Less trash than cav but still smells like yesterday's meal that you forgot in the sun.

[@johnmcmanus2447]

Heroes on chariots aren't too bad, like Tomb Princes with Chariot Master trait, but other than that, they're not amazing

[@Bobrob1597]

When Tyrion the good boi wants to simp for Alarielle but she wants Malekith the bad boi

[@jacoblertora1829]

woah woah woah this isn't a seven year disaster battle

[@spikertaker]

Always knew Alarielle was a gold digger!

[@sketchbook8177]

I was gonna use this as a guide for my run… turn one and nothing happened like in the video.

[@MaNameIsJonny]

yea same, looks like this tactic really doesnt work anymore

[@minos69666]

I've already try to told legend that not all that works on legendary works in the other difficulties. I play normal and tried to start a lot of times like he did and nothing goes like his playthrough, never hahahahahahah

[@lewisvargrson]

3:08:17 and to think you once didn't know what SIMP meant, and now, you're a pro. :P

[@RigMaster_]

My game doesn't have a handmaiden's gallery, and instead has sisters available after constructing a grove, greater grove, blessed grove. Is this some kind of update to the game/ high elf nerf?

[@ryanneish6282]

How does he stop his archers running away when troops come close?

[@skullboygaming2499]

Turn off skirmish mode. To make them not chase enemies turn on guard mode. Both of these commands can be found under the until cards when you've selected any ranged units. You can command the entire group as well.

[@ryanneish6282]

@@skullboygaming2499 thanks dude, I knew about the not chasing never thought about skirmish mode

[@skullboygaming2499]

@@ryanneish6282 No problem. Just wanted to thorough. Lol

[@Bandoolero]

Your laugh at the 1 hour mark sounded just like the wicked witch straight out of wizard of oz...

[@Zorazori21]

It took me 20 campaign to realize the Phenix had abilities

[@emiliorubio1797]

Guys I need your help, I just bought my first gaming computer and I want to enjoy TW Warhammer to its full potential, any dlcs I should buy? What dlcs are garbage?

[@weaponizedlizardmen360]

You should only buy dlc of races you actually want to play. I would still recommend to buy every dlc because then you can experience every race so far and their units. (Not only in the campaign but in custom battle) but if you just want to play the game and get a fell for it, you really dont need any of the dlcs. There is enough content there already to play. The dlcs will only add onto any race you decide to play. Like if you want to play lizardmen or skaven, I would defently recommend buying the prophet and the warlock because the extra units you get in there are really good for your campaign. ESPECIALLY skaven because in that dlc you get rattling gunners and jezzails. Two VERY useful and damage dealing units that really help out flesh out the skaven roster.

[@SynapticStatic]

Just buy the ones that look interesting if they're really on sale. You don't necessarily need them, they really just add playable factions, leaders, etc. I wouldn't worry too hard about what DLCs to get in particular when you're just starting out though.

[@Jeff-fr4ts]

Emilio Rubio all of them

[@gabrielwollen6236]

Don't get chaos; The queen and the crone is good.

[@Fujiapple]

"Vampire coast" and "prophet and the warlock" are both really good. Ikit Claw is easily the most fun campaign in the game.

[@nakedsnake6076]

started playing yesterday finished my first campaign today took me 48 hours lol 5 failed campaigns but on the sixth one I learned how to Confederate and avoid unnecessary wars and it was simpler to win

[@tonygunk86]

What mods you using?

[@bennyc390]

What's the best army for Tyrion on legendary?

[@johnmcmanus2447]

Sisters of Avelorn, plus 2 bolt throwers, resistant handmaiden, frugal noble, entrepreneur mage of light

[@806559]

Playing a vortex Champaign right now and my eagle claw bolt thrower only have 1 ballista per unit “card” or stack, when did they change this??

[@johnmcmanus2447]

Are you on small unit scale? Small has 1 per unit, normal has 2, large 3 and ultra, which Legend plays on, have 4 per unit

[@806559]

John McManus Yeah did some googling and that was the problem, the game plays so differently on small vs large/ultra. Ranged units gets so much stronger

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

Vortex campaign is my way to escape the order tide. It's just annoying, that every mortal empire campaign ends up in a massive war with the empire. And the empire AI knows, that artillery spam is the way to go.

[@bigsuirlife3623]

why your arrow trail it's all visible and mine it' like invisible ? (arrow trail option in game it's on)

[@raymondduslak5080]

How do you get the unit info to show on the left during battle??

[@HauntingSpectre]

On legendary. Left click the enemy unit banner. Then left click any blank piece of ground. If you just mean the info page in general for your units press i

[@raymondduslak5080]

@@HauntingSpectre thank you!

[@SuiSideex]

i wish CA didnt cut the ulthuan and other continents in mortal/immortal map/campaign ... man, ulthuan here looks so good. Btw good old WH2 where high elves are not a joke, and game its still more balanced than WH3, dragons have their fire attack etc...

[@KPAC774EVA]

Vortex is great!

[@zeuswarrior8237]

Haha high elves funny weed joke haha relatable funny weed haha

[@FahQx]

how did he get 4 bolt throwers at the start? is that because its on legendary? im just learning the game and playing on easy/easy and i only start with 1 bolt thrower.

[@LegendofTotalWar]

your unit scale is on small. Go into graphic setting and set it to ultra. x4 the unit sizes. You'll have to start your campaign again though.

[@FahQx]

@@LegendofTotalWar thanks man! It was bugging me lol appreciate the reply!

[@zombiegamer1069]

the lord of tricks

[@shimmereyes8984]

Is your fenix a Stuka bombarder?

[@1984beanz]

Hi Legend are you playing the vanilla game or with DLC. Cant confederate with Alarielle or Yvress.

[@LegendofTotalWar]

you need the dlc to confederate them

[@1984beanz]

@@LegendofTotalWar thanks pal. Great content.

[@Beast-1431]

Shiiiiit. Looking like legend of the pale vale Mr. War

[@kamilerbilek4342]

hi legend awsome content. question: how did you turn ur units and keeping the formation?

[@danielwowak8601]

Search "zerkovich army movement guide" on youtube. That video explains how to do that as well as many other useful tips.

[@kamilerbilek4342]

@@danielwowak8601 thx alot bro. :)

[@aleagues1110]

Rip Bob saget

[@idrissgh9659]

It took me a whole week to win this campaign at normal :( it's really hard

[@TheShizzo]

Do you use any mods that makes your end turn go faster? It seems as soon as you press end turn your next one begins lol.

[@minniebangbros5397]

He probably edited the AI turn out

[@johnmcmanus2447]

He plays vanilla. Potion of Speed update made end turns faster

[@duypham-nt1mp]

I can only play vortex map because mortal empire just caused my computer crashing every time

[@remote24]

its so funny that in this game spearmen are just such trash, while in real life a spear beats every other melee weapon with ease.

[@YukalayleeGames]

Just realised have stumbled upon the master of total war. Funny you mention people leaving to play bannerlord, i actually decided to start playing total war for the first time after enjoying what strategy there was in bannerlord

[@martinsvacina4389]

Nice beard man!

[@suokkos]

How is phoenix bad? Even my first game included me figuring out phoenix as extremely powerful unit. It was simple death from above against melee units. Then phoenix went against ranged units with melee attack. That scored it on average more kills than Tyrion in early game (about 4-5 times more than archers). Later I figured out that I could also just scare ranged units so they won't fire much less. Then just run away if close to death. I preferred not to try my luck with rebirth.

[@johnmcmanus2447]

He was used to Warhammer 1, which had the same "recruit spears and autoresolve" system as Rome 2 and Atilla

[@XavierAway]

This is brilliant you’re a very smart tactician clearly, but some of the people in your chat were so dumb everything is “cheese” and they scoff at the fact you don’t have this and that done… they should just shut up watch the master at work!

[@DaLusiks]

Damn good beard, dude!

[@GentlemanBystander]

*B O B* *S A G E T*

[@jacobtrost5048]

It really is unfortunate that this game throws Alasastar at you to trick new players into thinking White Lions of Chrace are a good unit. Cool, flavorful units? Sure. Good in sense of the game's meta? No. That being said, I ALWAYS have a flavorful Alastar army of White Lions, White Lion Chariots, etc. towards the end of the campaign.

[@JoshSweetvale]

The White Lions army is a tool with a few specific uses. They're cheaper than a full stack of Loremasters of Hoeth, and can win most Infantry fights, except ultra-lategame nonsense.

[@bradleycorbeille822]

That’s not balls that’s stupidity rofl 00:10:35

[@Soso64bit]

still don't understand this game.. looks excellent though.

[@fallenshaw5659]

Down voted for plaing the secondary campain

[@MagicalMaster]

Ten on ten, that means it's a fair fight which means it's not fair at all I'm gonna kill em.

[@Jtt1703]

I dont Know.. playing like this dosent look fun to me

[@Sylinnilys]

Legend broke a game. Nice.

[@SomberYeti]

7 hours for 50 turns

[@loknaro]

Did you ever manage to make Tyrion a cuck with alarielle? XD

[@lucasbeck1391]

He already is

[@loknaro]

Lucas beck true but did you manage to confederate him in the end?

[@steakdriven]

Tyrion is already cuckolding the Phoenix King with her

[@shorok9333]

Fucking hate all these chat interactions - lowers content quality for me