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@whiteren8749 3 ай бұрын

This comparison was so good dude. Actually well articulated.

@roberterickson408 23 күн бұрын

That was the best video of its kind I have ever seen - hugely informative and you made my choice for the next weapon I purchase a done deal. Extremely well done and easy to sit through. Thank you.

@SmallArmsFirearms 23 күн бұрын

@@roberterickson408 thank you!

@rymerc 3 ай бұрын

Great content. Not too brief, didn't shill anything, natural amount of emotion, excellent production quality. This deserves more views

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that.

@patthis Ай бұрын

Great video, the shadow 2 is like a gateway drug

@ronaldwoodman224 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video! Extremely informative without the gun snobbery. Subscribed!

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Appreciate the kind words. Thank you

@3.eyes.open. 2 ай бұрын

The fact that a CZ shadow 2 rivals an atlas is awesome not to mention that it's way more affordable just as accurate definitely more dependable and way more durable is really a testament to the guys from CZ that designed the 75. The gun came out in 1975 that's a 49 year old design still kicking the asses of anything that money can buy. All you gotta do is get a CZ shadow or shadow 2 and throw on a compensator or get the barrel and slide ported and bam you have the world's best shooting handgun without compromising any reliability or function it's unbeatable proven design is the best to date facts

@garyjones7370 Ай бұрын

Have to disagree I own an Atlas Titan and bought a shadow 2 orange not even close

@KevinBramlitt 2 ай бұрын

First video of yours I've seen, I've subscribed. By the way I'm a Bull Armory addict, trust me they are awesome. CZ and Bull Armory are my favorite gun 2 gun makers.

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I love my CZ and was blown away by the bul

@nyquil07na38 2 ай бұрын

Great vid, no long drawn out BS. Earned a sub man!

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

I really appreciate it!

@kaseymoffett5628 3 ай бұрын

Great videos 👍 love the shalotek videos, just ordered my slide and flex frame for my p365 xmacro. Thanks for the help, keep up the good work 🇺🇲

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Glad I could help and thank you. I really appreciate it!

@Jehwvsbgeud 3 ай бұрын

Very cool and honest video. Keep it up 🎉

@NickNelsonReiners 3 ай бұрын

Nice everyday Joe kind of review. Thanks

@user-je5fg8mh4h 2 ай бұрын

Great review!

@davepayne2024 Ай бұрын

Excellent information!!!

@jonah8133 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video thanks man. very helpful. Just sold me in my want for a shadow 2

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Glad we could help! You’ll love it

@JJBOUNCE 2 ай бұрын

Great review man. Thanks

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting

@SalvadorFrieri 3 ай бұрын

Love this video! Subscribed!!!!!

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Mukapah 3 ай бұрын

I really appreciate the humble opinions

@TheDuppyman 3 ай бұрын

awesome video

@SEAKPhotog 3 ай бұрын

Good stuff. I'm a CZ guy who's recently discovered 2011s. Love my Shadow 2s. I agree that they're the best price to performance, all around handgun out there, especially on sale. Mine didn't need any real upgrades except a lighter mainspring for a lighter DA pull. And to be accurate, CGW doesn't replace all the internals of the CZs into which they install pro packages... I've had CGW install 2 pro packages and I've installed 2 myself. I also have an Air and OMG - it is an incredible value for a competition 2011. They're hand fit and it shows. My slide to frame fit couldn't be better - zero play and it's smooth as silk. And the barrel lockup is completely solid. I've got an MPA DS9 Hybrid on order to compare to the Air. That'll be interesting. Oh, and the Air is about to be replaced by the Bul Blaze that looks even better. 🙂

@bobsburgers2071 23 күн бұрын

Good video man

@SmallArmsFirearms 21 күн бұрын

Thank you sir

@RTS907 3 ай бұрын

“It feels huge in the hand!” That’s what she said! 😂

@jaceprovo 3 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this. Thought you did a very nice job. The guys you were shooting with look like average shooters.. That’s a great group to test out these different levels. A high-level competition shooter can certainly feel the difference between these guns, but to the average shooter… I own an Athena as well as an Erebus and an Alien Creator Limited Optic. I have owned a tricked out shadow two (sold it to a competition buddy of mine who begged. My mistake) and still own an SP 01 that has been tricked out by CZ custom. I’ve shot the Bul Armory. I have owned nighthawks and Wilson’s and more staccato than I care to think about including the XC. I can’t really disagree with anything you say. I have told lots of high-end gun collectors and shooters that the best bang for your Buck is definitely CZ. I will say this though. The alien creator is an amazingly good gun. It’s just different from shooting the 2011 platform. I wouldn’t pick it over a 2011 and it certainly wouldn’t be the first high-end gun that I would purchase but I shoot it on steel all the time. It’s not going anywhere. I subscribed.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the detailed response and I agree with you as well. The Alien, especially after watching the high speed, I just need a lot more time with it. It is not a 2011 trigger and that is really the only thing slowing me down with it. But, a few weeks at the range with it, and I think I could make it sing. Just for that price... there are better options. But as you said, it's not going anywhere because it's damn fun to shoot

@husni1980 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video, thanks for the review! Agree that CZ S2 is best bang for the buck, I would've put the CZ Checkmate against the other high end guns though, similar price range and higher performance when compared to the S2. Thanks again.

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Totally agree. I just didn’t have one available that day. But a friend does have one. Maybe soon in the future

@paulbritton1436 Ай бұрын

In 1994, I was spending $120 for each Glock 17 magazine And I was happy to get them

@OAD2311 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for featuring our OA 2311! Regarding the grip, the polymer grip module itself is the same between full size and compact models. The magwell is interchangeable, you could run the full size magwell on our Compact and convert to a 17+ round setup. We hope you get more time on the platform in the near future. Cheers! - Mike

@hoodsta_Pizzo 3 ай бұрын

Sorry but your grips are fat but short I want longer length on grip that’s my main issue

@nusense808 3 ай бұрын

“Feels huge in the hands & I’m kinda blown away by that”

@fredstr70 3 ай бұрын

Try Bul Tac 2 Pro - the trigger an fit/finish, reliability are compatible with the Air , weight is lighter and the price is significantly lower. For my uderstanding , best entery level DS 1911.

@drip2hard645 25 күн бұрын

I'm looking at the platypus 5 inch with the black nitrite finished bull barrel, full dust cover, various finish options, 3lb trigger. Originally was thinking about buying the bul SAS II TAC 5 inch (non pro) but i held the platypus right after shooting a Stacatto P yesterday (range rental) and was very impressed with the feel of the platypus (first time seeing and holding a platypus, and first time seeing and shooting a staccato). Also, i didn't like how I couldn't reach the slide release on the staccato with my shooting hand, but I can with the Platypus (although I had to adjust my grip). I'm also used to shooting polymer guns and not 1911s, so maybe that played a factor, but the platypus felt really good in my hands and right at home. Being that the Bul SAS ii tac seems to be a staccato replica has me wanting to buy the platypus instead (slide release issue and I can't customize it from the factory as i like the black nitrite finish on the barrel, while bul has polish finish)

@SmallArmsFirearms 25 күн бұрын

@@drip2hard645 what feels better in your hand will make a big difference. I personally don’t ever use the slide stop/release and all my mags don’t have “last round lockback” so I can squeeze one more in there. Atlas also makes a great gas pedal for the 2011’s that does delete the slide release though. It also makes holster options difficult if you plan to use it for anything other than range toy/competition. I haven’t shot the bul SAS II tac yet but I would 100% grab the platypus over the Stacatto P.

@nicholasnissen1547 4 күн бұрын

Id say thats probably the top tier gun list. Haven't watched any reviews. Love my shadow 2 just picked up czc 75 Bull Shadow accu. Not gonna go wrong with any of them.

@SmallArmsFirearms 4 күн бұрын

@@nicholasnissen1547 and I have another high end video coming next month. A few more 2011’s to add to the group

@nicholasnissen1547 4 күн бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms if you can find one or scrounge one. Cz Czechmate. We had one on consignment at gunshop I worked at. Lightest trigger I've ever shot. Probably not safe lol

@SmallArmsFirearms 4 күн бұрын

@@nicholasnissen1547 a friend has one. Trying to get him out to test it. My shadow 2 has a 1lb 15oz single action and is wild

@David_S_ST5 2 ай бұрын

Great video. I’d like to see the PDP 5’ match steel frame added for comparison

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Me too. A friend has a pdp but not the steel version and I want to spend some time with it

@patrickkelly8095 3 күн бұрын

This was really a great comparison video. I’m just surprised that there was no staccato there. Considering how good and high end they are.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 күн бұрын

@@patrickkelly8095 yeah I get a lot of heat for that. I simply don’t own one and have only shot a couple here and there. Not enough to really comment on except they worked well and felt great. I can’t justify the price of them at this point with my current firearms so I’ll have to wait until someone stops by and let’s me really test one.

@patrickkelly8095 3 күн бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms I get it, it’s tough to own all the cool expensive ones.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 күн бұрын

@@patrickkelly8095 I’m a couple weeks away from another big 2011 comparison as friends of mine just added 4 new high end 2011’s to their collections.

@michaelkraus4115 3 ай бұрын

Earned yourself a new subscriber. Good choice of comparisons. Great choice would've been a Staccato instead of the Laugo. I also understand that a Staccato might not have been available from your group. My reason for watching is I'm considering a Platypus. I know Atlas makes the best gun(s) on the market (IMO). I'm not going to shoot competition. Therefore, I don't find the value for me, spent on the Atlas. However, now you've thrown this Bul Armory into the mix... For now, I'll keep researching, but thanks for a good video. I'll be sure to watch some more of your reviews.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

If you can wait, or afford it, bul armory is way better when comparing just the fit and finish. The trigger, the slide, just everything about it is miles ahead of platypus. BUT! The platypus for its price, damn is it the sleeper for sure

@michaelkraus4115 3 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms I'm starting to lean towards the Bul... The price isn't the deciding factor actually. I'm looking for the quality of the build, looks, functionality, the entire package, at a reasonable price (IMO). Based on your opinion, I really need to start looking more at the Bul. I've seen a lot popping up about Bul, but really haven't given them a look. I thank you for getting back to me. My search starts tomorrow! Just out of curiosity... Do you have an opinion of the Canik TTI? Not the same category, just asking...

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

@@michaelkraus4115 IMO platypus really does crush it for the price, but if the price bump to Bul Armory doesn’t bother you… holy shit will you be way happier. Canik does an amazing job at their price point also. And exceeds it with the best out of the box striker fired trigger I’ve ever felt. But… I am very hesitant on the TTI Canik. I will preface this next statement with I’ve never seen, shot, or held one so it’s just a theory. But I feel like you could just add any comp to a normal Canik and probably get the same results. I just got a comp for my S&W M&P 2.0 and want to compare it to the high speed I have of it before the comp. I have a feeling the comps make all the difference considering my current testing. Granted… that’s a pretty obvious statement but it’s nice to see it confirmed on high speed.

@michaelkraus4115 3 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms I'll be sure to watch all your videos. I like your style. Also, value your opinion. Thanks much! I'll let you know about the Bul... 😉😍

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

@@michaelkraus4115 I truly appreciate it. Trying to get footage together for a 22lr pistol mash up and possibly a tommy gun review soon hah

@googlechicken Ай бұрын

I got to handle an Atlas Nemesis ,and it is ridiculous.The slide to frame figment is superb, there is no play very tight fit, yet so easy to rack like it’s riding on ball bearings it’s easily the nicest pistol I’ve ever handled would have loved to shoot it I can never have one because it’s like 7000 bucks

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

Well if you’re ever in Colorado we have a couple you could try hah. They are simply amazing.

@LogoxSKUL Ай бұрын

If the Platypus had the competition trigger, bull barrel, new grip, and other options that would reduce recoil/muzzle flip, do you think it is on par with the Bul Armory?

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

The Bul Armory beats it in basically every single category (trigger, weight, accuracy, recoil, fit/finish, grip). That sounds dumb to say but it's very true. If it was my personal money, I would go Bul Armory every single time over Platypus.... but..... Bul has proprietary mags while the Platy uses glock mags....

@LogoxSKUL Ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms Thank you for the info! It's crazy hard to find on comparisons. Looks like a Bul Tac pro is my next gun. Think an aftermarket threaded barrel on the Bul from like fusion firearms would work well for suppressing?

@pierreeschi Ай бұрын

@@LogoxSKULgotta say, with about 3k rounds thru my platypus, I would be hard pressed to want to move away from it. The slide is buttery, my 4lb trigger is great (they go to 2.5#), the threaded bull barrel with a comp on front with a TL1-HL, kills recoil. And the new, extra prickle grip, it’s amazing. I’ve practiced in the rain with it, it has grip all day long.

@LogoxSKUL Ай бұрын

@@pierreeschi yea I'm seeing Bul has MIM parts, 1 year warranty, and being overseas... Kinda thinking platypus again with the upgraded trigger, prickle grip, bull threaded barrel and full rail, optic cut, magwell. Then get an aftermarket upgraded guide rod and see about spring weight, recoil buffer, use a TLR-1 and suppressor. If that doesn't keep the gun flat idk what would.

@pierreeschi Ай бұрын

@@LogoxSKUL with comp and light, it’s pretty smooth. Love this pistol. Also, it’s insane how low the optic sits on the slide.

@jasonriggs3655 3 ай бұрын

When you get done with products, feel free to send them my way for testing as well.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

My wallet definitely cries when seeing the prices on some of these.

@politicalpolarbear Ай бұрын

I'm looking at the Platypus. Would you say the flat grip frame was more comfortable than the finger groove one? Currently I'm thinking the grooved one.

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

For me, I hated the finger grove one and for some reason it caused the safety to dig into my hand. But that is purely personal preference. Two other people had the same sentiments about it also.

@justinglasgow4934 3 ай бұрын

I believe the Athena is what 4.25 comparing to the bul 5inch. Of course it's going to cycle faster.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Close. It’s the 4.6” but that does make sense.

@GunThinks 3 ай бұрын

I have an Atlas Titan. I recommend taking the blue recoil shock buffer out of the gun. Makes the recoil impulse softer in my experience.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Good to know. It’s already super soft but maybe I’ll try that sometime

@GunThinks 3 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms I also have a Bul Armory and ended up shooting that for limited optics because of how well it shoots

@Gypsyman40 3 ай бұрын

For 6k it should include a choice optic plate and 4 mags (atlas reference)

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

They do now let you pick one optic plate for the $5900 and come with 3 mags for any purchased after 1/1/2024. I got mine a year ago.

@nicepojos8766 2 ай бұрын

Seeing your video for the first time...abd this is really nice. Glued to the story from start to finish and repeat. Thanks from the Netherlands. Oh yea, question: how would the CZ Tactical Sport 2 (Green.. etc) compare to this array?

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

I haven’t had the chance to try the TS2 green but we did get to play with an original Tactical Sport Orange in .40 S&W The big difference for that gun is for limited division meeting major power factor while still being a soft shooting pistol that almost feels like a regular 9mm. The single action triggers on the Tactical Sports is amazing! Gun is very heavy and recoil control is super easy. You can’t go wrong with that pistol as long as it meets what you’re looking for in a competition pistol.

@nicepojos8766 2 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms Some good info. Thanks a lot. Looking forward to more videos from you.

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

@@nicepojos8766 thank you

@timothygarrity5181 Ай бұрын

I am waiting on my masterpiece arms ds9 hybrid build.I looked at the bul armory, i just don't know if i would get good customer support or not. The ds9 is a really good 2011from what i have heard, but i haven't shot one yet.

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

I really want to get a chance to test masterpiece’s products and compare them to BUL. I feel like they might be a great comparison for the price.

@timothygarrity5181 Ай бұрын

@SmallArmsFirearms My Mpa ds9 cost $3400 which is still quite a bit more than the bul.Bul looks great but something is telling me the mpa will outshoot it. Won't know until i get it.

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

@@timothygarrity5181 the painful waiting period. Good luck my friend

@Nontacticalboy Ай бұрын

Living in south east asia, we had a slide from an Alien break because it cant take a NATO 124g ammo.

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

Well I wouldn’t have expected that. Good to know

@Gl0ckb1te 3 ай бұрын

Good video, im too broke for it tho😂

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Me too

@aethertech 2 ай бұрын

Bul, best.

@karlcain1068 2 ай бұрын

What size gloves do you wear for reference?

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

L to XL depending on brand. Hestra gloves I wear a 10.5

@karlcain1068 Ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms thanks

@dustinmatthews387 3 ай бұрын

When the guns you're testing are worth more than my entire house, car, personal gun collection and custom pool cues.😳😥😢😭😂😆🤣

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Lol not quite, but Steve does have one hell of a collection

@peterquinn2997 2 ай бұрын

When you can afford an entire house, car, a personal gun collection AND custom pool cues. 😳😥☹️😮

@gilbertopadilla3611 Ай бұрын

You're telling me. I live in a dumpster.

@JW02828 26 күн бұрын

The only thing that's keeping me from buying the Platypus is that it doesn't have they steel frame. For $1,300+ the frame should be made out of a more reliable and stronger material. SS like Bul Armory pistol or at least 4140 or 4330 steel.

@SmallArmsFirearms 26 күн бұрын

@@JW02828 I mean even staccato uses poly frames. For the price point on the platypus it’s amazing compared to just about all the other 2011’s out there. In my opinion that is.

@JW02828 26 күн бұрын

@SmallArmsFirearms On Staccato, they offer steel and aluminum options. Steel slide on an aluminum frame isn't good for long-lasting functions.The steel slide riding on the aluminum frame will open up the pistol tolerance on fitment overtime.

@SmallArmsFirearms 26 күн бұрын

@@JW02828 totally. But after a very very long time. And the price savings with the platypus it’s amazing. Don’t get me wrong, I love the steel frame of my Athena but it cost 3x as much. We all agreed that the platypus is the “sleeper” of the group for the price. But the shadow 2 preforms just as good or better and is also cheaper.

@JW02828 26 күн бұрын

@SmallArmsFirearms I like the Platypus and I love their website. I customize the pistol for $1800. For that price, it's to be made of steel.

@SmallArmsFirearms 26 күн бұрын

@@JW02828 I’m just saying that there aren’t 2011’s made with a steel frame for under $2k.

@edw1515 21 күн бұрын

Very good informational video. I have a cz shadow 2 optics ready and shadow 2 sao and shadow 2 compact. + 5 or 6 other cz's and I am regretting not getting a 1911 style from your video. Hum. Maybe your video isn't that good. I have to save money lol. Out of all the high powers and 1911 for around 1500$ what do you all recommend.

@SmallArmsFirearms 21 күн бұрын

@@edw1515 you’re in such good company with what you have it’s hard to say. Best value 2011 = platypus Best build/performance that is now updated from new testing would be either Atlas Athena or Hayes custom. They are identical so whatever you can find cheaper. But…. I still absolutely love the Bul armory SAS II air also. 2011 world is weird. It’s all expensive. And if you can save for them, you will not be disappointed. But for the price there are a few I would avoid (and here comes the hate). Staccato… you’re paying for a name. Buy Bul Armory and you’ll thank me later. Prodigy - great price to get entry but reliability has plagued them. It’s getting much better but not good enough for me when a platypus just flat out works.

@nicholasnissen1547 4 күн бұрын

Idk haven't put to many Rounds through it. I got Mac 9 ds. I mean of course it isn't a staccato but in all honesty they all feel about the same. For around 1000 bucks not bad. Then guys are dropping another 500 with atlas part etc.

@keithj9165 3 ай бұрын

Any reason staccato wasn’t on the list?

@peterquinn2997 2 ай бұрын

Why would it be?

@nypete480 2 ай бұрын

That’s what I was wondering as well.

@CarrieWard-ny1zl Ай бұрын

I’m in California so my Mag capacity is as many push-ups as I can do too..😅 and my arms are small too, that’s why I can only do 10 push-ups…

@navyvet7138 Ай бұрын

yeah the platypus wait time is now 20-24 weeks. thats 6 months

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

Thanks for the update. They are getting much more popular and I can understand at the price point and the customization options.

@marksd5650 2 ай бұрын

I love our Atlas, but our Nighthawk Shadowhawk is just as good, and so isn’t our SVI Infinity (mags are $150 by the way, I have 10 and just refreshed springs and followers). Best Regards

@blaiseeltine9516 14 күн бұрын

good discussion.. check out GP Arms for a more affordable, better parts/ fitment- Bul Armory option.

@SmallArmsFirearms 14 күн бұрын

@@blaiseeltine9516 haven’t heard of them but I’ll take a look. Thanks for the info

@joel0214 Ай бұрын

Bro I just bought a cz shadow 2 compact with the lok grips and I have to say my Mr920 with the ramjet afterburner is by far the most accurate and the one I can shoot the fastest . No matter how many new high end guns I shoot …. I can’t seem to find one that outruns the mr920 elite lol

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

Yeah, none of these had a comp on them or porting, that can make a massive difference. But I bet that single action on the shadow feels real good. Thanks for watching!

@LeelandOC 3 ай бұрын

I have never in my life seen any competition shooter use the grip pictured around timecode <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="390">6:30</a>. Wacky!

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

He likes to grab onto the front of the trigger guard. I’ve seen people do it before but it’s not my favorite. But if you find something that works for you who am I to judge.

@LeelandOC 3 ай бұрын

@@SmallArmsFirearms I have seen people grip over the trigger guard, but that's not what is happening in that shot. His finger is extended through the entire shot. I agree with the overall idea of "if it works for you, go for it", but when you find yourself doing something different compared to everyone else in a highly competitive sport, it's highly unlikely to be a case of you having discovered a better way.

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

@@LeelandOC I happen to agree with you on that 100%

@joebledea 3 ай бұрын

nice comparison, but no stoccato available?

@PBPistoleer 2 ай бұрын

Happy Weekend, SAF ! As I can see you are now a huge fan of the Bul Armory Air, I am now offering mine for a truly sweet deal (especially for Floridians). Great price on an elite, rare shooter = awesomeness. If you, friends are interested, contacting me is easy peasy thru my channel. Cheers !

@j-kamautomotive1817 2 ай бұрын

Platypus vs shadow 2? 😊

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

I like both for sure, but I found my shadow 2 used for a great deal and I think they both perform similar.

@j-kamautomotive1817 2 ай бұрын

Which shot "flatter" as far as recoil and muzzle flip?🤔 I have a TSO and sp-01. The platypus might be next on my list or anshadow 2. Since u shot both, I was hoping you can steer me in the right direction

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

@@j-kamautomotive1817 It really depends on what you want it for. As far as muzzle flip and recoil... well since I have a thumb rest and the aftermarket palm swell grips on my shadow 2... yeah it shot flatter and I was able to control it better than the platypus. Stock shadow 2, would probably be the exact same compared to the platypus. If I was building a limited optics gun I'd probably go the 2011 route as the trigger can just be built faster, in my opinion at least. I also love the grip angle and ergo's of 1911/2011. Don't get me wrong, CZ ergo's are amazing too, I just shoot the 1911/2011 ergo better. You already have a TSO, getting a shadow 2 isn't going to be a "better" pistol. The TSO is amazing, but if you want to build a carry optics competition gun you can't use a 2011. If this is just for fun or range toy, I would say add the 2011 to your collection. Home defense, I would say stick with CZ because that's the battery of arms that you know with your current line up. Unless you have decent experience with 1911/2011's then flip a coin hah. Hope that info helps

@rikt1541 29 күн бұрын

laugo shoots harsh

@SmallArmsFirearms 29 күн бұрын

@@rikt1541 it’s really fast and I think if I had a decent amount of time learning the trigger, it could be a crazy fast gun.

@paddypibblet846 Ай бұрын

Atlas poops all over CZs and Stacattos

@SmallArmsFirearms Ай бұрын

In terms of being a semi custom fit gun for sure. I’ve only shot a stacatto once and it shot just fine, but for the price I’d rather have my shadow 2. I love love love my atlas, but again, it cost me 5x more than my shadow 2 and the shadow 2 runs fast, super reliable, and almost returns to zero as fast.

@rodanone4895 23 күн бұрын

+1 on shadow 2. was ready to get Atlas... shot Artemis. awesome. but not 7K versus the shadow 2. and then there's the Dan Wesson dwx. fast and so so so comfy with that cz75 grip. compact is also amazing.

@SmallArmsFirearms 23 күн бұрын

@@rodanone4895 price for performance, shadow 2 is still king IMO

@jasonriggs3655 3 ай бұрын

Proud to say I’m getting in on the ground floor of this channel before it gets big. Does this mean I’m an initial investor? Entitled to 5% of the channel and future payouts 😝. Just kidding… kinda

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

It’s a deal! Hah

@rogerthat3718 2 ай бұрын

No way. No way this trigger is "bad" on the Alien. I own this, Atlas, Staccato XL, WC experior, Shadow 2 Orange, and several other high end pistols. Only the Atlas is close or possibly better. The reset is shorter and stock I get sub 2 llb pulls constantly.

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate the input and your trigger might be better. We had 5 different shooters on all of these pistols. 3 of us have competed for years and shot dozens of different pistols for competition. All of our feedback on the alien was that the trigger finished in last place. Again, yours from the factory, or had work done, might be much better. I cannot comment on that but from our factory sample size of one, we stand by our assessment.

@sodajones2576 3 ай бұрын

Good stuff. I’m in for a sub

@zmdbbza8335 2 ай бұрын

I am confused you speak of high-end comparisons, However, there is no Staccato XC or Wilson Combat TLR. How can you begin to talk high-end comparison and not have even a mention of these Guns? I am not just speaking of the price. Many shooters complain about the Alien overheating due to the barrel sitting on the frame. The CZ Shadow 2 is Mid-tier at best and the 2311 and platypus are boutique right now at best. I like your delivery of the review.

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. I would have loved to put an XC or Wilson in the group. None of us own one and that’s literally the only reason they weren’t included. At this point I don’t have the budget to buy more high end like this but would gladly test others when they become available. Just two days ago I shot a surprise video with a range friend that I’m editing up now which is another custom high end gun. As far as the CZ, I will have to disagree with you. Just because the price is “low” doesn’t mean it’s not a high end firearm. I mean there’s a reason most high level carry optics shooters all use Shadow 2’s. They are amazing for the price.

@dsxz 3 ай бұрын

the platypus is 2k...you can find prodigys for 1100...and you dont have to wait 18 weeks..

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

Platypus starts at $1400 on the site but yes, the wait times is what deters some. But sometimes you can find them ready to ship in a preconfigured setup also. My thing is after shooting both it’s worth it to wait for the platypus.

@robbyzhobbyz9257 2 ай бұрын

The alien gun is not unique or one of a kind the desert eagle operates the same way and is way older

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

I didn’t know that. Thanks for the heads up

@chadwickmorehead5115 25 күн бұрын

No, the Desert Eagle is a gas operated rotating bolt locked action. It's more akin to an AR-15. The Alien is gas delayed. The HK P7 would have been a more appropriate comparison.

@damienthomas6655 3 ай бұрын

❤❤Nine almost 10 minutes in and still talking ,yeah pretty boring ,most reviewers at least have the item they are reviewing in hand ,this review aint really a review

@SmallArmsFirearms 3 ай бұрын

I appreciate the feedback and unfortunately I don’t own most of the items so I tried to fill space with B-roll and the high speed footage. I also attempted to explain in the beginning that these are more first impressions as I don’t own them and have as much time on all of them compared to my Atlas and my CZ

@peterquinn2997 2 ай бұрын

It’s a video presentation and pistol comparison which requires talking. It’s not an action flick.

@johndeere1951a 2 ай бұрын

Report the facts. Don't say " it has a bad trigger" or..... Just statr trigger pull measurements, reset distance, full trigger travel distance.. facts, no whining, no opinions . Let the consumers decide. You have small soft hands, shooter #2 has large callused long fingers. That pistol feels great to them. Let the client decide. Sorry, I had to bail out @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="840">14:00</a> The whining was overwhelming.👎

@SmallArmsFirearms 2 ай бұрын

Well I appreciate the feedback and I can assure you I was not whining instead giving my opinion which I reiterated multiple times. Not sure why it felt like whining but it was more of a disappointment for how much the pistol costs. I also did say that this is my feedback and I was guessing as I currently don’t have a trigger pull gauge. I disagree with the small hands as I wear L to XL size gloves. As far as soft? Lol not sure on that one. I prefer palm swell grips and the most aggressive textures I can get. I think if you made it past the alien you might have understood but I really do appreciate the feedback on the facts part and I do agree. I wish I could have given better facts with some and had more time with them.

@19Clutch69 3 ай бұрын

Hmm... the action us quicker on the atlas because the barrel is 4.6" vs 5" for the bul.. apples n oranges