High Performance Shocks. Better than OME BP-51s for 70-Series Land Cruiser Review @4xoverland

[@ryanstewart8836]

The back & forth between the 2 vehicles on the corrugations..... Beautifully done Andrew 👍

[@OPTIMUS6LTR]

just a suggestion Andrew i know we've all gone on about this but can i suggest you name this channel 4xoverland - Workshop and the other channel 4xoverland - Adventure, it just makes more sense with what your doing and the brand recognition follows through, Cheers (patron 5+yrs and fellow Perthite)

[@jamesmazurstudios]

Ooohhhhhh I love this. One question: What happens when one shock has an electrical issue and help isn't just around the corner? Does the system default to one setting? Does the one shock get stuck in a position? Does the entire system fault. Can you manually adjust the shocks into position and then seek out new parts? Thanks.

[@woohoonr]

Congratulations. You've finally realised what Patrol drivers have known for years.

[@Malc664]

Yeah and super flex kits

[@kellyessenwanger9800]

I couldn't agree more with your assessment. The way we use our off-road vehicles is quite dynamic, therefore it makes sense to have an active on the fly system to turn the normally mechanically reactive system into fully adjustable for the various conditions seen. I give it 10 years that every relevant shock manufacturer will have similar in cab adjustable setups, and the manufacturers that don't will be selling antiques.

[@ryansearlybronco]

Ford Raptors in the states have been coming equipped with live valve shocks since 2019. Pretty remarkable!

[@somanysevens]

Perfect timing, I just received my new ecds shocks two days ago, thankyou Black Friday sales.

[@asimrc]

How much was the discount?

[@somanysevens]

20%

[@noel5826]

I love to discuss shock absorbers with my friends and family at get together.

[@thebiglimey]

There's a certain brutality that tracks impart on vehicles. The 1/4 speed videos maybe didn't show that full brutality - it might have been better to show it at double speed. After every Baja tour that I used to guide I rebuilt my shocks, but your new Superior shocks are an impressive upgrade - thanks for sharing your feeling on them!

[@littlemick4]

I also have the just fitted about 3 weeks ago. The most amazing shocks I’ve used!

[@LVNITUPM8]

Ome bp51 are over rated and over priced. Glad there is something on the market to challenge them

[@jackbarnes6929]

They are overpriced because built into the price is 1-2 warranty replacements.

[@Sethjxl]

I think the BP51 came out to challenge to superior remote res. They fell short. Superior brought out the remote servo control last year and it's brilliant. This is one of those cases where younpay for what you get, and it's well worth the price.

[@LVNITUPM8]

@@jackbarnes6929 yeah all good and well but they were a major let down, got them for the Y62 and ended up taking the car back and forth few times to arb and in the end 6 months late they just couldn't do what they promised or fix it so they refunded the money and went with another brand with much much better result.

[@terryivanov9009]

Adjustable shocks for offroad comfort as a MUST.

[@HammerRocks]

Good to know these Superior Enginerring shocks are great. And I too find the ARB a little on the expensive side. Let's just hope Superior Engineering have as good warranty cover as ARB.

[@cyclemoto8744]

ARB shock warranty is rubbish so not hard to compete with and you save coin.

[@Brennomac83]

Superior have been building competition components for over 20 years.

[@wayneramm7288]

What settings do you end up dialing to Andrew ?

[@chihweiteng253]

An exotic suspension.

[@johnflynn556]

Doesn't adding electronically suspension add complexity and go against the ethos of not being "exotic". What mode do they go in if one of the shocks electrically fail? Is the ability to adjust on the fly worth the extra complexity?

[@veneratedmortal4369]

I guess that would depend on whether they fall back to a default setting if the electronics fail?

[@OverlandFamilyExpeditions]

Excellent point. Complicated suspension=1, simplicity=0

[@ninjaelvesninjaelves5152]

Thank you for the video mate. Looks like an incredible product. Quick one. What is the plan B is the ajustable / electrics have issues in the middle of the bush? Will the shocks remain in the previous setting?

[@rison6574]

Can I ask have you done overlanding in stock standard Toyota 4x4 vehicles with no suspension modifications? If so, did they last the trip just as well and can you truthfully say "upgrading" is all that better?

[@nic.in.the.pacific5113]

Great question, some objective discussion on how good or bad stock suspension is would be useful.

[@atomicsmith]

This sounds amazing. I would love to have that on my vehicle!

[@SirLuisBarrera]

on the fly in-cab adjustment is where it is now. Jmacx alphas are also a great option. Bp51 are basically now obsolete, it is old tech. Once they catch up I bet although more expensive, it will definitely be a better product than Superior. By the way Bp51 can also be rebuilt. Like you I liked mine but there is definitely more advanced options on the market now. Once they die i wont service them again, I will move on with tech.

[@wetwaterfish]

Can you also adjust compression and rebound separately?

[@intimatespearfisher]

Woukd have been interesting for you to get out and feel how hot the shocks were getting compared to the other two vehicles. Might stop Jason shouting at you too 😂

[@shalininaicker]

Are you happy with the 2.8 auto LC70 so far Andrew ?

[@njingaradebe9652]

I'm also thinking of buying and installing these new high performance Shocks on my Landy, but my question is how long is their life span?

[@MartinGotz-jm8pd]

take the africa rig to OL to get tough dogs . i know lots of guys running them on their cruisers

[@taurota1554]

Awesome

[@morepawstravels]

Ummm didn’t Rancho off in-cab adjustment back in the late 90’s? I’m sure I remember the ads in Australian 4wd Monthly

[@kichaa13]

It's not a new thing, toyotas with Ahc are also doing the same thing when you switch between comfort, sport etc. This is a Chinese product rebadged in aus, probably with some local qc in aus and local warrant and spares backup

[@erchep]

I drive a 4Runner in the USA. What suspension setup did the 4Runners you drove in Mongolia have? Thanks!

[@4xoverland]

I do not know the details.

[@anbu999]

What happen if the electronic fail ?

[@4nthony4]

Superior will be selling like hot cakes after this, the OME”s have just gotten too expensive for the everyday 4x4er. Great insight

[@janpur1417]

You got leaf sprung in the rear while Haina got the coils in the rear. Same track and we can see you are steady on the seat while Haina was bumping all over

[@4xoverland]

Heiner does not have coils at rear. Its a 76. Not as good a ride as the 78.

[@jamesmazurstudios]

I had a 1991 LC LJ77, that's pre-prado and pre-76, but the same body style as the 76. The LJ77 had coils in the rear and it drove like a dream. Under powered by drove like a comfy couch on and off road.

[@jamespauling7165]

The live valve is for sure the next level !! But Superior shocks is definitely not superior !! They are basically the same as Profender made in Thailand. Having wasted money with most brand. In my opinion King Shocks are at the top followed by Fox, BILSTEIN. Next tier would be Dobinsions and Terrain Tamer. They all need to be physically custom valved with a shock dyno. If you can order them with high and low speed compression adjustments awesome and the live valve is the crème on top.

[@cyclemoto8744]

You mention Dobinson shocks but don't rate Koni?

[@jamespauling7165]

@ yes fair point !! I had custom Koni adjustables in my Cressida. I didn’t know if they play in the offroad/overland space. We could get into Ohlins, Tein, ect for road cars

[@bafumat]

Well this3 will be sold out before Christmas

[@atb12312]

Beard suits you Andrew, just saying. Merry Christmas

[@NoToBigBro]

Put some miles on them. Rebuild cost?

[@grahamwilkins2499]

And the bp51 are made in China not Australia. Pity they don’t make them for more vehicles.

[@jackbarnes6929]

May I suggest you only buy shocks from a company that only makes shocks. Jack of all trades master of none is exactly what is the case with many of the shocks being sold by the big outlets.

[@philpiesse5065]

Andrew, please don't further mangle Australian English by using the word "bad" as a noun ; it's a bloody adjective. Thanks for your entertaining videos.

[@gerhardscholtz7090]

Just stick with OME. Can't go wrong

[@walar1]

Another paid product review 😅

[@jasonhowe1697]

CHANGE YOU SHOCKS ALL YOU LIKE ANDREW CAUTION IN DOING SO YOU MIGHY RECERTIFICATION FOR THE NEW MODIFICATION IN MY OPINION USING A RACING SHOCK CAN BE DONE HOWEVER YOU ARE LIKELY OVER WEIGHT YOU ARE USING IT FOR 2 PEOPPLE RUNNING BAHA AND A LARGE FUEL TANK AND 10 LITERS OF WATET NOT 2.5 TONS WORTH OF CRAP YOU USE IN A CAMPER SETUP

[@4xoverland]

You are wrong!

[@jasonhowe1697]

@@4xoverland OVER HEATING SHOCKS TELLS ME OTHERWISE HAVE YOU HAD THE SHOCK DIAGNOSED WHY THEY ARE UNDER HEAT FAILURE

[@4xoverland]

and no need to shout Jason. One can change shocks without issue. Only if the vehicle has a certified GVM upgrade will it need recertification if the shocks are changed from the ones installed.

[@4xoverland]

stop shouting! do not use all upper case. Shocks get hot. The way a shock deals with it affects its performance.

[@jasonhowe1697]

@@4xoverland i have eyesight issues andrew i ften type in caps because i have issues reading lowercase