Installing a Lucioli Tube | Hawaii Hard Enduro |

We installed Lucioli tubes on Adam's hard enduro bike! 2010 KTM 300XC
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[@ajr.1272]

Here in Brazil, where the Luciolis are made, they are the go to choice for hard enduro guys. Price is unbeatable, it lasts pretty much forever, I have countless tires on mine. We run anywhere from 6psi for better feel on faster trails down to zero if needed, usually around 2psi for the hard enduro type stuff. When assembling, lube is really your best friend, but once you get the hang of it, it's way easier than mousses, you don't even need a stand if you don't have one. Cheers from Brazil, keep up the good work!

[@highlandcycles]

Thanks

[@zachfarkash6430]

I think those tubes are good idea gets people another option. I also like the fact that you don't have to change out for different tire sizes

[@highlandcycles]

Yep

[@chrislambert505]

You absolute star🤩! Just this minute tried your method and a few attempts later (took a few whacks to break the binding) and it’s worked - thanks mate! You have saved me a fair bit of aggro will subscribe ☺️

[@highlandcycles]

Awesome!!!

[@chrislambert505]

Ah. This comment was supposed to be for the video on how to remove stuck brake reservoir screws; either way am delighted 🤣🤣

[@husaislander4838]

I run UHD tubes at 4 to 5 psi all day long in the rear and 8 to 10 psi in front. Knock on wood i havent had a pinch flat in years!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@firffighter]

Same here.

[@donpizzo8963]

Thanks for the upload. The DDC sprocket is really sweet. Machined for a tight fit to the hub.

[@smashedfootlefty4726]

Tubliss take time to figure out but after that they’ve been pure heaven! No inner bladder issues here. Have to use more clutch because of all the traction! No system is perfect but it’s nice to have options Do these tubes have extra thick rubber around beadlock areas? I’d think that they would tear like the rubber on all my regular headlocks have done, and start leaking air? Thanks for the video! Been hearing about these new rubbers and might give them a whirl

[@highlandcycles]

They are super reinforced at the bead locks.

[@brycedavis907]

the jx8 is a pretty big 110, it's really similar to a 120 525 cheater. I also agree that it's a stunning tire. slightly short lived, but stunning traction.

[@Johnr37us]

I’m like you when it comes to the weight of those things. I have always ran ultra heavy duty in my front tire and I have heard people say…I don’t like the how they affect the steering. But I never could tell a difference, but I’ll tell you when you would tell a difference and that is when a standard tube goes flat during your race. And Adam is correct …that JX8 is one sweet tire that IRC makes.🤘🏼

[@richardhartley7094]

Interesting option I run mosses and never had a problem don’t think changing would make me a better rider but great to have choices👍

[@philsheridan6759]

I've always wanted to try these

[@motoxposse]

I cannot imagine using Lucioli tubes over tubliss @ 170$ a tube you can buy two tubliss and carry a plug kit. I’ve never had an inner chamber tube fail, but then again I do maintenance it every time I change tires

[@CoolEyeColorado]

I also never had an inner chamber fail on my tubless. Always solid and totally like tubliss. Looking at the directions for the Lucioli Tube on their site, it seems just a big a pain as anything else (mousse, tubliss, etc). Maybe i missed it, but I noticed in Morgans video there was no lube applied to the Lucioli Tube . On their website via the assembly instructions (#7) it says "lubricate Lucioli and tire.." wondering if that means the whole tube (like a mousse) or just enough on the outside/edge to get the tube/tire on the rim?

[@lucioliusa1]

Thank you Guys!

[@richardhartley7094]

Adams seems a cool guy 👍

[@jmeezy4050]

For peace of mind mousse has gotta be number 1. Than tubliss because you can just plug it quick on the trail. Every tube system has the same issue. If you puncture it (no matter how tough) your still tearing it out to patch it. IMO

[@highlandcycles]

Yeah

[@stevenasommes]

I bet that having the two rim locks also balances the rotating assembly pretty well also. I had a double rim lock on a rear 19 inch wheel with a paddle and it was perfectly balanced on my wheel truing stand. Let us know please. Just curious.

[@tarded400]

Interested in that bead tool. Might be able to use it to get a lever under a tight bead and avoid scratching my rims more

[@highlandcycles]

Yeah. Motion pro makes it.

[@BM2ktom]

It's called the tire tamer, k&l make it, motion pro may have made one too

[@jamesg5059]

That looks like a real PITA. I’ll stick with tubliss

[@jvincent1960]

Clearly you deliberately left out the install of the second rim lock so as to keep your video “G” rated! I can imagine that being a “challenge”. Interesting alternative to mousses or Tubliss, but as you said “…if it has air, it can go flat…” and for that reason alone, I’ll stick with mousses for now.

[@TJC510]

I ran the IRC JX8 in WV, great tire. It's half wore out after 9 hours. But it hooked on the rocks! I used a heavy duty tube. I tried the tubliss. It worked for me, the thing I hated was every single time I went to ride the tire was FLAT. I ended up ruining it taking it off the rim.

[@highlandcycles]

That’s part of my issue. Too much “maintenance “ with it. I just want to ride.

[@erichelit5327]

Same experience with the JX8. Great traction but doesn’t last long

[@Hoser1mVm]

I’m going with Lucioli’s soon too. Especially great for dual sports where u can’t use a mousse on the road as they disintegrate. I have one of these IRC VE 33s (great for my 300xcw dirt only) and a Goldentyre GOAT for my 450 ExcF (DOT) and awesome tire (Jarvis approved ;-)

[@ogasi1798]

2500 miles on UK terrain including roads and my mousse did not melt, nope - recent set of nitro mousse have already done 1000 miles and still very very nice 'pressure'

[@ogasi1798]

fwiw people say these on roads are not a great idea - take that how you like

[@Hoser1mVm]

@@ogasi1798 I’d imagine they would need balancing/counter weights? Reason?

[@200xcBruce]

You need to buy a puller for the valve that threads into the inside of the valve like the core and then pull through the rim.

[@highlandcycles]

That works but then it just tries to go back in until there is air in it.

[@jetdr]

When I ordered my 220 Ride Tires, they have an option to have these installed.

[@my-max-media7621]

Oh boyyyy... you're talking like Mr Jeff Slavens now 🤣🤔😆. TorqueAholics.

[@highlandcycles]

HahHaha

[@3dmick1]

I’ve gone back to mousse in the rear the Lucioli got a flat on the last ride They are a good idea but are heavy and expensive and can still go flat I will have a go at repairing the Lucioli but I’m not going to hold my breath that it will hold up lol love the Chanel guys 😂

[@highlandcycles]

Thanks

[@jasonstevens4192]

What did it take to flat the Lucioli? Hard hit, puncture?? Haven’t even heard of a flat on one yet..

[@highlandcycles]

@@jasonstevens4192 that’s what I want to know

[@3dmick1]

Hi guys not sure what punched the tube just noticed it at the end of a ride I’ve had the tube in for about 6 months now just found a slice in the side of it

[@michaelkelley9652]

the one in ohio is the fallen timbers its about 20 min from my house. I run the gp series they have there.

[@highlandcycles]

Nice

[@NorthWestEnduro]

How easy do you think it would be to remove one of these trailside with normal hand tools? I have been thinking about one for a multi day dual sport ride.

[@highlandcycles]

Probably pretty tough

[@vince5946]

do you think you would benefit from running some mousse lube with that tube? I run the Michelin Ultra heavy duty tubes (5mm thick) and I notice a lot of wear/rubbing on the tube when I change the tire. I thought about adding some lube to it once.

[@highlandcycles]

Lube would definitely help

[@glennaltschwager5234]

Cool video mate👌 I'm thinking these tubes could be awesome for an adventure bike. What are they like at higher speeds balance wise ?

[@highlandcycles]

That’s the thing. I rode this bike down the road and they were not good. Super out of balance and would take a ton of weight to fix

[@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf]

That’s what I was wondering as well.

[@brucerochajr4450]

Seeing the tube is so thick, would you consider adding tire lube to the inside of the tire like a bib?

[@highlandcycles]

Probably not a bad idea

[@milosbgd]

White spirit for oil-based or nitro-based colors?

[@FrankieChavez-cb9iz]

How does this compare to the nitro mousse’s and how many hours can you run them? I would be interested to know.

[@highlandcycles]

Huge pain to install, super heavy and awkward feeling when riding. I don’t like them

[@02Clint]

So just out of curiosity is Adam running a bib up front I’m assuming?

[@highlandcycles]

No. Lucioli up there too

[@mikeb4708]

It would be well worth paying you to install it! 😂

[@highlandcycles]

Yep

[@paultodd9179]

Do you still keep the tire rim lock of does that go away.

[@highlandcycles]

Goes away

[@richardhartley7094]

Morgan if I gave you a set of mosses to change and set of those tubes which would you prefer now be honest lol👍

[@highlandcycles]

Mousses as long as they were the right size for the tire

[@seamarsh3756]

Jx8 is great for hard enduro I’m sure.. pretty terrible for aggressive off road general riding.. to squirmy.. throws knobs and wears out super quick! Cool if you want to make unclimbable climbs!

[@highlandcycles]

Yep. That is his MO

[@seamarsh3756]

@@highlandcycles also slavens favorite tire!:)

[@highlandcycles]

@@seamarsh3756 bwahahahaah

[@robertbaker9329]

I may buy them but there so heavy I wonder how they feel when riding if they feel like anchors lol

[@highlandcycles]

I don’t think you’d notice in the slow stuff but they feel weird at speed

[@robertbaker9329]

@@highlandcycles well I’m in luck I’m not that fast anyways lol

[@justinthompson2219]

How did it hold up at Hawaii?

[@highlandcycles]

Very well.

[@MrJacksmithFTW]

why don't you guys run the Michelin or mites enduro 140 tyres?

[@highlandcycles]

I have and I just don’t like them that much. Adam has a tire sponsor

[@MrJacksmithFTW]

@@highlandcycles I ride hard Enduro also, I'm located in Europe. Here nobody uses anything other than a 140

[@highlandcycles]

@@MrJacksmithFTW yeah. I’m personally not a hard enduro guy. And as far as Adam goes l, free tires are free tires.

[@MrJacksmithFTW]

@@highlandcyclesthe problem with the thin tyres is when you have lots of off camber stuff. I don't really know that Hawaii race but if irc thinks that's an appropriate tyre they know. thanks for the replies. Really meaningful, I appreciate it.

[@BLSdarrin]

I just went back to Ultra Heavy tubes after a couple years of running mousses. I got tired of the cost and how long they last. I like the idea of Lucioli tubes but they look like bitch to install with getting that 2nd rim lock through the hole

[@highlandcycles]

It’s kind of a pain but I’m sure once you do it a few times it would be easy

[@snakeoiler2921]

No way. Way too much work for me. I'll still to mousse or might try balls

[@kevinmarshall8035]

But how much does it weigh?😂

[@2strokematters169]

wd40 as tire lube? We all know you can do better🤣 The tube is very expensive so i will keep my NOMOUSSE which is a better and cheaper version of tublis💥💪👍

[@highlandcycles]

WD is the best for tire lube. It helps get it on and then dries up and goes away. Which is what you want so that the rim doesn’t try and spin in the tire.

[@taneumjct5156]

With you on tubliss it failed me on ride #2 feet have not been right since 6 mile walk in moto boots. Iam not a weight nazi boot wonder bout these

[@seamarsh3756]

How does the inner-tube fail?

[@taneumjct5156]

@@seamarsh3756 Ran a 5" spike through tire and tube

[@stevenasommes]

Just read the comment on balance. Too bad.

[@highlandcycles]

Yeah. It was pretty bad going down the road at probably 30-40

[@heily-3806]

Lucioli are a great idea, but there just too heavy. rotating weight is a HP thief

[@719vol]

rotating AND UNSPRUNG. Double whammy.

[@heily-3806]

@@719vol yeah I think I heard somewhere these things are 8 pounds each .

[@719vol]

@@heily-3806 😳

[@DmitriyAdv]

Horses for courses. I think these are a great option for hard enduro. Where traction is #1 priority, there is no shortage of power (300cc two stroke in 1-2nd gear is a rocket no matter what), and most of us probably won't notice all that unsprung weight affecting suspension performance at those 5mph speeds. Faster riding - probably a different story. I haven't tried these, but I find even standard vs. HD tubes or mousses is noticeable, and I'm a newb! I can imagine a good rider can really feel 8lbs extra bouncing around in each wheel.

[@mikelowry007]

Has anyone killed one of these yet?

[@kaytme5915]

How to do video? Can't see the tool & you don't know the name of it 😜 & skipping the most difficult part of mounting is sad. Best I give this is 2 things; Thumbs Down & Advice, when showing a tool or something, make sure the background a a solid white or black, not a mix so a person can actually see whatever it is your trying to show 🙀

[@highlandcycles]

This really isn’t a how to. I should have labeled it differently. It’s more about showing what we are doing to Adams bike for the race and making sure we mention the sponsors. All of the videos in this series have been like that. No in-depth stuff.

[@highlandcycles]

Oh, I just looked and the title never says how to. Just that we were installing it. So maybe work in your reading???

[@kaytme5915]

It was from your words, not my reading. Thanks for sharing the info anyway I installed a thick inner tube on my 690, yikes that was not easy😭😜🤠😄 and it was just a simple 1 valve tube. I don't know if I could install that tube your using. But I think I will buy it and have the shop install it

[@highlandcycles]

@@kaytme5915 it’s not easy and most people scratch the crap out of the rim. Also I have found that I really don’t like them on higher speed stuff. They are very heavy and out of balance. None of that matters crawling through rocks but Dual Sport would be not that awesome I think. I might put a set in my 650 to test just to see but I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t have a KZbin channel to make content for.

[@kaytme5915]

Yeah, paint on a aluminum wheels is stupidity, haha. Well that extra thick tube in my 690 sofar is good to go, but I'd never try only using 5 PSI in it.

[@gkling33]

Looks cool...but how much does it weigh? (Just kidding)

[@highlandcycles]

Bwahahahaha

[@ashflame6888]

Im so sick an tired of these systems wanting you to drill holes in your fucking rims......... Im sorry I dont have the kind of willingness to fuck up my 500$ wheel if I dont like the tube/system.

[@highlandcycles]

Hear ya