Scamming Pan Am

[@kpasstenceBETA]

Before I was 20, in the mid 1990s, my best friend was a nursing assistant where Tex Jonhson was living out his last years in the south Everett area. He told me how this "guy" in one of his rooms had all kinds of pictures on his wall of him with Jayne Mansfield, the picture of the 707 upside down over Lake Washington. I wanted to meet him really bad. He took me there, his door to his room had a tag that said said "Tex Johnson". I went in and there was a man, old, dressed like he just came out of a Texas western movie, hat and all. He said in a cheerful voice, "Oh hello boys!" My friend asked him to describe the upside down 707 picture on the wall, he opened his eyes wide and started gleefully telling the story. He got maybe 10 words in and forgot what he was saying. Long live Tex, I was captivated by every word he said, and was honored to have met the legend that he was. I will never forget that momet!

[@Yugophoto]

This popped up in my suggested, and I was like "ooh new history channel" and then Simon popped up. KZbin is slowly becoming the 'Simon Whistler" channel.

[@murdelabop]

Eastern Airlines was killed by intentional malfeasance by Frank Lorenzo. He intentionally pumped capital out of Eastern, which was a union airline, and into Continental, which was a nonunion airline.

[@anthonybanchero3072]

Still seeing it play out with the latest revival attempt. Just hope Lorenzo isn’t still around.

[@murdelabop]

@@anthonybanchero3072 : I think there was some legal thing that barred Lorenzo from ever owning an airline again. At least I hope there was.

[@stuartalexander2657]

I graduated from the USAF Academy in 1977, pilot training in 1978, then entered training to fly the KC-135 Stratotanker with the Strategic Air Command. The KC-135 was a modified Boeing 707. I was flying aircraft built in the latter '50's and early '60's. This was long before the KC fleet received a massive fleet-wide engine upgrade. Old school, folks, and I still swear by the 707 airframe. Super rugged and reliable; just a reliable beast of an aircraft. Hundreds of them are still flying today around the world and for good reason.

[@1timcat]

"I know you can do it, you know you can do it. Now EVERYBODY knows you can do it. DON'T do it again." Bill Allen

[@Krahazik]

From what I have heard about that barrel roll, was that it worked. The plane was looking to be a flop until that roll occurred and then the plane was sold in droves.

[@thecianinator]

No matter what you like to watch on KZbin, half of the videos you see are going to be this man talking about that thing

[@Master_Yoda1990]

When I saw the title my first thought was Frank Abagnale

[@nhrider93]

Same

[@fatalgravity]

Same.

[@robertestes167]

Same

[@Amethyst_Dragon_]

As did I

[@Salien1999]

Same

[@Holmaaron]

Anyone who thinks Canada doesn’t rule the skies has never been in a fist fight with a Canada goose.

[@sandybarnes887]

Oh Canada. Go Avro. 🇨🇦 edit: thanks for doing the Avro Arrow, Simon

[@jbarnhart2653]

I live in Vancouver...the phrase that comes to mind is "typically Canadian".

[@sandybarnes887]

@@jbarnhart2653 cool. 😎 I lived there for over 15 years.

[@kingpin6989]

Yup, the Diefenbaker government completely destroyed Canada's aviation industry.

[@PMcDFPV]

Great way to start the day, thank you sir !

[@neilgoodman2885]

Mr. Whistler: Chutzpah!? Perfect. I love the way you kept the barrel-roll to the end along with Howard UU's. Warmly, Yada, Yada, Yada.

[@barrydysert2974]

👌 🖖

[@rogerhinman5427]

A reborn Eastern Airlines, complete with it's original logos, livery, call signs, etc, landed it's first flight at JFK airport in January, 2020. Just in time for the pandemic. *Heavy Sigh*

[@TheQuickSilver101]

I knew most of this, though I don't believe Pan Am ever bought Eastern Airlines. Love the content. Thanks! 👍

[@rogerhinman5427]

They didn't. Eastern folded in 1991 and most of it's routes were taken over by American Airlines. Delta and USAir got most of their aircraft.

[@barrydysert2974]

i felt something got fumbled in that portion of the narrative. Thank you for the correction. 🖖

[@jayoneill1533]

I think Simon misspoke because Pan Am merged with National in its last gasps.

[@longevityescapevelocity629]

Reppin CULVER CITY! BY NAME!! I wasn't so sure about you, but now I am! That was cool, nice work

[@rebasack21]

I am still working my way through years of these channels so if its already been done i will find it eventually but my question, how did ticker tape parades become a thing? And who were the unlucky ones that got to clean up the mess afterwards?

[@barrydysert2974]

SideProjects are you listening?.👍🙏🖖

[@mudduck754]

The Dash 80, I was at the 1955 Gold cup race and seen, Tex Johnson, do that simple roll, it was all anyone could talk about for week's.

[@davidkamen]

The aircraft on the title page is a DC-8, not a 707.

[@douglasladowski6342]

Welcome to Simontube. We promise that at least one video will highlight cocaine on every channel. Lol .much love Simon

[@user-ellievator]

Allegedly.

[@geezer652]

A Douglas DC-8 thumbnail on a Boeing 707 video?

[@barrydysert2974]

Twice. Born in the USA, i feel shame every time i hear of the AVRO Arrow. Many more revelations like this and i'll be forced to shred and burn my clothes. Smear myself with the ashes and wear nothing but burlap! Even sorrier Canada 🖖

[@timforsher4766]

Nice try no burlap for you. Fetch the beaver pelt of shame, and the maple syrup of repentance. Please and thank you.

[@barrydysert2974]

@@timforsher4766 Humble thanks kind Sir. Might you have any pancakes?;-) 🖖

[@timforsher4766]

@@barrydysert2974 of course what else would I serve with my back bacon. Then we can watch the Leafs and have a couple of cold Molson's.

[@Greatblue56]

Oh LooK! A new Simon channel I just subscribed to. Yay! Someone is CRUSHING KZbin. 😊👍🏽

[@TheSassygrasshopper]

I’ve always found pan am an interesting topic. I first got hooked on it many years ago when the story of the 16 year boy was pretending to be a pan Am pilot, not to mention all the other wild times, fake stuff he managed to pull off. So now anytime Pan Am pops up I watch just to see how that event affected it or if it did.

[@DeliveryMcGee]

Tex Johnston = f'in LEGEND. After "Selling airplanes" he said "It was a one-Gee maneuver, absolutely non-hazardous." to which Bill Allen (CEO of Boeing at the time) said "I know that, you know that, just don't do it again." Also it wasn't technically a 707, it was the company designation 367-80 (lil' bit smaller in all dimensions than the 707), which later entered production as the C-135/KC-135/RC-135 in USAF service. And much like the B-52s they refueled in the 1950s, they're still flying, with modernish engines taken from retired upgraded 707s. And the BUFFs are using the OG engines taken off the tanker fleet. Every ten years or so there's a proposal in Congress to put modern, more efficient engines on the B-52s, but it always gets voted down because they have enough TF33 spares to last until the heat death of the universe.

[@PitboyHarmony1]

The other side of the Avro passenger jet story, is that its the same company that developed the Avro Arrow CF-105 military jet, which Simon did a Megaproject on. Both projects were scrapped by the short sighted Canadian govt of the time, and Avro eventually shrunk into obscurity and the brain drain from Canada to NASA and Boeing was complete. Simon sold the idea that the CF-105 was reasonable to cut due to competing fighter jets at the time, but missed on the idea that by cutting it and the Avro workforce so early in the companies development as an airplane and technology builder, that the loss completely hamstrung the future for Canada ... and this is the present now experienced ... always second fiddle and buying other countries stuff.

[@aceundead4750]

The thumbnail hooked me like a suckerfish to algae covered rocks

[@barrydysert2974]

i wish footage of that barrel roll exists 🖖

[@paulcochran1721]

@@barrydysert2974 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJLCnJuer9p5oqc

[@terrynixon2758]

@@barrydysert2974 it does

[@deice3]

My first thought was I'm going to beat up whoever scammed Pan Am with my Gorilla Arms. But then I realized this was not about her.

[@eriktruchinskas3747]

People underestimate how much a plane can take (not that this is really hard on the plane, I believe its 1g all the way 'round) but next time you are on a turbulent flight and people are screaming and praying remember that the pilots are probably having a jolly old time and not scared one bit

[@jaybee9269]

Amazing and tragic the way Canada’s jet manufacturer were executed by its government.

[@cameraman655]

A 707 barrel roll and thumbnail showing a DC-8.

[@johnkoenig326]

Tomayto, tomahto.

[@for78get]

DC 8? You really have to try harder.

[@cameraman655]

@@for78get???? So, what is that a photo of in the thumbnail, looks like a ‘Diesel 8’to me…

[@brknglasses2734]

Simon, I love the work, and respect the grind, but I have to ask: Do you sleep?

[@jafranck9880]

He just blazes

[@aceundead4750]

@@jafranck9880 so a coma of sorts

[@sandybarnes887]

He doesn't need sleep when he has magic spoon cereal, ETA and cocaine to help him make his 11 channels. Allegedly 😆

[@brknglasses2734]

@@sandybarnes887 i wish I could like that twice! Lol

[@sandybarnes887]

@@brknglasses2734 like it 3 times. 😀

[@topknotsrule]

Wow! Intro was well written and well read!

[@barrydysert2974]

Welcome to the Simon Whistler Experience 🖖

[@topknotsrule]

@@barrydysert2974 Oh, I've been a subscriber for some time, this skill and savant was a pleasant novelty.

[@robertorafaelvazquezvazque2376]

Pan-Am never acquired eastern... 7:26

[@steve69640]

I caught that, too. It was Frank Lorenzo & Continental that acquired Eastern.

[@laughingoutloud5742]

Please do a full episode on The Avro Jet 🤗🙂

[@TheEvilCommenter]

Good video 👍

[@morskojvolk]

Ottawa: The Canadian aircraft industry's worst enemy.

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you

[@howardsix9708]

very subtle

[@seansopata5121]

Most everyone I know has sat in the cockpit at the museum in Ottawa at least once. The aviation museum is a common destination for school trips. Or at least, it used to be, in bc19 times

[@barrydysert2974]

bc19 👍 🖖

[@1003JustinLaw]

Let's not forget the Avro Arrow, rumored to be the time that Canada almost made the first supersonic fighter jet. It too was terminated by the Canadian government and cut up for scraps. It seems the the Canadian government is simply content with playing second-fiddle to either the US or UK, never wanting to do anything "first" unless absolutely necessary.

[@steve0592]

Comet ... DC10 ... 737 Max.

[@deadfreightwest5956]

Just so you know, the Boeing Dash-80 was not a 707. The 707 came about as an answer to the DC-8. Yes, they scrapped all Dash-80 tooling and came up with the 707 to be just a bit bigger all round. Also, Bill Allen wanted a detailed answer as to Tex's roll, and how risky it was. Tex laconically pointed out that it was perfectly safe. It was a one-g maneuver, and the aircraft could care less whether it was upside down or not under that stress. "You know that, now we know that," replied Allen, a lawyer by profession, "but don't ever do that again!"

[@amaccama3267]

Would this make the Comet the 737max's grandfather?

[@petergray2712]

Another Bonus Fact: The second jet airliner to enter service after the Comet was the Soviet Union's Tupolev Tu-104, an aircraft based upon the Tu-16 "Bear", the first operational Soviet jet bomber. The aircraft had four turbojet engines embedded in the wing roots, and was the last military-to-civil conversion recorded. Introduced into flight service on the 15th September 1956 with Soviet national carrier Aeroflot during the period when the Comet was grounded, it was the only operational jet airliner in the world until 1958. However.... it was no de Havilland Comet. In fact it had an abysmal safety record. Having been converted on the fly from a cheaply made bomber by a country with no embedded safety culture for an airline with the worst accident rate in the world, nothing less could be expected of it. Of 201 aircraft built, 37 were written off in various mishaps with 16 lost in crashes by the time it was pulled from service in 1981, with 1140 fatalities. These included two aircraft destroyed by bombs planted by hijackers in 1971 and 1973. The type suffered from its engine arrangement, as the close proximity of temperamental military grade engines to wing fuel tanks and control lines had disastrous consequences in the event of an engine exploding or catching fire. Unreliable instrumentation and faulty wiring also plagued the type, and caused the type to be withdrawn from Aeroflot service after a fatal accident in 1979.

[@petergray2712]

And Finally Another Bonus Fact: When I say the Soviet era Aeroflot had the worst accident rate of any world airline flying on international routes I'm not kidding! According to the Aircraft Crashes Records Office it set a record for fatalities, with 8321 passengers having died on Aeroflot planes since its founding in 1923, five times worse than the next nearest carrier. Between 1946 and 1989 Aeroflot had 721 recorded incidents (but only 10 incidents between 1995 and 2017, in the absence of Communist rule). Among the factors contributing to the high accident rate were Russia's notorious winter weather, shoestring funding for most domestic routes creating conditions that made the Wright Brothers first flight in 1903 look extravagant, a proliferation of poorly trained crews combined with ready access to alcoholic beverages, and above all the Soviet Union's coercive and punitive repression: this caused ordinary Russians to compensate for their lack of public freedom by undertaking daredevil risks in private or while on the job, just to keep themselves sane, and this extended to Aeroflot personnel themselves by cutting corners or putting themselves into dangerous situations that were otherwise avoidable.

[@darkoneforce2]

You forgot to mention their piss poor avionics due to their underdeveloped electronics industry. And their underdeveloped infrastructure.

[@petergray2712]

@@darkoneforce2 Not to mention poorly designed and manufactured aircraft, and a general lack of quality control in their supply chain.

[@darkoneforce2]

@@petergray2712 I disagree here. They weren't poorly design for the most part, as they doing just what the west was doing (with some exceptions). But the inferior engines coupled with the poor avionics/electronics really hurt them. Also designs, until the mid '60s were double-duty military and civilian airplanes, meaning the were heavy and had poor fuel economy as a result.

[@petergray2712]

@@darkoneforce2 I'm referring to the smaller aircraft like the Yakovlevs. The Ilyushin and Antonov aircraft were well designed, as were most of the Tupolevs. But the Yaks were basically commuter aircraft working in rough weather, rough field conditions in Siberia and the Caucasus for which they were not suited (fragile construction, unforgiving flying characteristics and inadequate navigation systems). And they had ridiculous accident rates as a result. They probably accounted for a quarter of Aeroflot's overall accidents during the Soviet period. An example of this: In December 1967, Aeroflot lost five Yak-14 cargo and passenger aircraft in a sixteen day period.

[@mr88cet]

This video’s icon is ironic: It mentions the 707 roll, but the airliner shown is a DC-8!

[@justdrive914]

At 7:26 you say the takeover of eastern airlines was disastrous, but it was national you meant to say FYI for editing haha

[@dammitspawk]

every time i look this guys got a new channel

[@paulybassman7311]

Simon! The plane in the Thumbnail is a Convair and was faster than the 707.. As you didnt mention it 😂😂😂

[@williamprice3929]

Sorry pal, learn the difference between Convair 880/990s and a DC8.

[@xijin_pooh5158]

Simon I'm having business blaze withdrawals please my boy blaze great video by the way you always make good stuff

[@brknglasses2734]

All his stuff is good, but my favorite is business blaze, too.

[@TheSassygrasshopper]

Business Blaze can’t be watched at bedtime because it’s just too darn hilarious and I laugh so hard I cry. It’s by far one of my favourite Simon Channels. I remember way back when I started watching Top Tenz and slowly started finding more awesome channel’s by Simon.

[@barrydysert2974]

@@TheSassygrasshopper i too began began with TopTenz waaaay back in the day👍 There is probably only one difference in our shared 'Simon' addiction. Business Blaze is my new Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. i find myself pleasantly exhausted at the end of the hilarity always wanting more. Addiction i tell you!:-)

[@TheSassygrasshopper]

@Barry Dysert we both definitely have a Business Blaze addiction, I just finally got to settle down and watch the awesome he posted today, but can you believe he recorded it November 11th/2020 and made us wait till now to wait!!!! Oh the horror, more Business Blaze Simon pls we love it. Also side note awesome to find another fan who started the same channel as I did.

[@treed5953]

I'm surprised that Hughes didn't get his way

[@lexzbuddy]

Square windows !

[@groupcaptainbonzo]

Is the Thumbnail a DC8?

[@kevinoconnor4992]

Yes

[@t.y.4198]

I thought the channel name sounded familiar. 'ello bearded chap blazing business still?? I'll catch em all someday

[@MrYTGuy1]

Was it an actual barrel roll? Or the other one? And was he told to do it over the radio by a space faring anthropomorphic animal by chance?

[@tgmccoy1556]

I knew Tex Johnson no ,it was real. There were pictures.

[@henkdouma8448]

It's 'Eddie Rickenbacker', so not with a pronounciation of 'g' but with a 'k': en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker A very interesting carreer certainly, fit to made of a movie of. Especially the suicide by hit 92 (!) year old wife, four years after his death, committed with a gun while she was blind as a bat is also exceptional.

[@TheGibusDemo]

As an aviation nut seeing a DC-8 under the title Boeing 707 on the thumbnail personally makes me seethe but it’s alright

[@MisterRorschach90]

I wonder if anyone has ever retrofit a civilian jetliner to be a bomber or ridiculous fighter jet? Imagine taking a 747-8i and modifying it extensively to where it basically becomes the millennium falcon of jetliners. The fastest jetliner on earth, with weird 4 barrel machine gun turrets that have to be manned. It’s like a nerds dream. Put in some hidden compartments for smuggling and some classified prototype deflector dish and bam. The Boeing falcon.

[@skozer22]

I thought it was named The Meteor not The Comet.

[@Canalcoholic]

De Havilland Comet was the first jet airliner, Gloster Meteor was the first jet fighter.

[@LoPhatKao]

interesting history tidbits on this channel but it could use a dash of blaze, allegedly ;)

[@ignitionfrn2223]

8:10 - Bonus fact N°1 8:50 - Bonus fact N°2

[@nickthompson318]

This story is quite famous.

[@Don_Rodrigo44]

How many channels does Simon have jfc

[@Michael75579]

The ones I know about are TodayIFoundOut, TopTenz, Biographics, Geographics, BusinessBlaze, MegaProjects, SideProjects, Highlight History, and Xplrd; it's entirely possible this list isn't complete.

[@JDWelch-wp6ie]

Sorry, Canadians, but that was an incredibly stooopid thing for Ottawa to do to Avro. All that lost *licensing* revenue... *sigh*

[@Musikur]

Yet another case of how America managed to find it self in the lead in aeronautics and aviation through a combination of trickery, idiocy and bad luck. From the British Super sonic program & jet engines, to the black arrow to the Canadian C102.... 🙄 Not to say the Yanks didn't (mostly) deserve the achievements they had, but so many of these other programs failed in the most ridiculous of ways

[@Tendies7645]

Jesus how many channels does he have

[@BonkedByAScout]

jfc, another Simon channel?

[@ynotbdifferent1]

First 100 comments gang guys . Get that simon fix

[@imouse3246]

Another one bites the dust, thanks to duplicitous Canadian politicians. #USAwinsagain

[@Eric_Hutton.1980]

Selling airplanes

[@Vulcanwoman]

Does this guy sleep?

[@wizzarin424]

In case anyone wants to see the barrel roll: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KkaJ6Gm6hofs0