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@AnnihilatorOfThingsWithFur Жыл бұрын
Yea love it and keep up making the great content sweatchman 🗣🗣🗣
@Vegemite_Warrior Жыл бұрын
It is great.
@gamerz3429 Жыл бұрын
Very great
@_LuxusV6_ Жыл бұрын
yep
@ya5hveer Жыл бұрын
Yea it’s great keep up the amazing videos
@evobsm2328 Жыл бұрын
E100 line is also one of the best and og best newbie friendly heavy tank lines
@charleshuang6109 Жыл бұрын
My first tier ten is the AMX 50 B and I would say it's a decent tank because it has a 4 shell drum and the total damage would be a whopper 1520 but it has poor turret armor (considering how big the turret is) and it requires skills to play this tank. It took me months to master this tank and trust me, it's not easy to play this tank. For those who just acquired a autoreloaders, remember that you are support tanks so don't rush to front line and get yourselves killed
@Matoil738 Жыл бұрын
I just got amx 50 b can you give me some tips?
@charleshuang6109 Жыл бұрын
Ok, first tip, don't rush into battle. The AMX is not a front line tank and it has poor armor. Always stick with a group. Second tip, when firing a clip, never empty it all at once as it can result in you getting killed. It takes a fully trained AMX about 10 seconds to fully unload a clip. Always peek and fire and hide. Only empty the clip if necessary on solo tanks. Final tip, NEVER show the enemy your sides as the AMX's sides are only 30mm and can be penned by a tier 6 KV-2 and also don't show your rear. Follow these tips and you'll be golden!
@Matoil738 Жыл бұрын
Thank you do much!
@Hikaratashi Жыл бұрын
My first tier 10 is FV215b, and yeah it was a hard tank to play(212 match 42WR). Until i create new account and start over again, and boom the tank got WR62 with 400Match (that was 3 year ago)
@zellylong323 Жыл бұрын
The progetto is definitely not for new players because the armor is paper and the autoReloading gun is pretty hard to use and new players shouldn’t get a medium as their first tier 10, new players should get a heavy tank with lots of armor because they can make more mistakes. If they really want a medium they should get the e 50 m because it is the only medium with well rounded and good armor.
@Legend_1991 Жыл бұрын
Mi first t10 was b-c
@Bulgarianempireofficial Жыл бұрын
Medium tank with great armor is the t-54
@daddysasageyo68105 ай бұрын
For E50M, the tier 7 and 8 grinds would be pain. New players should not play pewpew guns at all. All too often do i see a panther peak against an ISU, recieving 640 damage while only dishing out 150 in return. They should stay with heavies for as long as they can. Preferably any german or american heavy. Anything with good armour and generous gun depression angles.
@ThatOneEverywhereDude Жыл бұрын
The proggetto 65 line is perhaps a semi friendly because it has the gun, the mobility, but almost no armour, this make newbie have to learn quite a lot for the game
@thetellybridgerr Жыл бұрын
In tier 6-7 I remember giving some free 152mm hesh with my kv2 and since I have t100lt and is4 I didnt know what tank to choose from,I have the isu130pm and t44-100 premiums
@retrogamer545 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on reaching 3k subs !!! 🎉🎉🎉
@LoganMcCall-bc3wh Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 3000 subs!!!
@LughtMon Жыл бұрын
I'm smashing ranked battles with Jg.Pz E100. Also Grille 15 is very good, decent dmg, reload time and accuracy. The speed of the tank is good too, but it's paper, the armour sucks so much that FV 215b 183 can one-shot you. You just need to stay unseen, otherwise you will be basically dead.
@retrogamer545 Жыл бұрын
You are a very underrated youtuber ! I hope you will reach 1 million subscribers in the next 6 months
@Legend_1991 Жыл бұрын
Congrats for the 3k
@Pablosbir Жыл бұрын
Love ur vids man, keep it up !
@japaneselearning9607 Жыл бұрын
3:05 lol the video shows
@zellylong323 Жыл бұрын
The type 71’s upper plate is pretty weak on flat ground so most t10 tanks can penetrate it with premium ammo
@KristSamchaos Жыл бұрын
All America lines(imo):Sherdan line: Need at least 500h skill, know how to do guerrilla warfare; the more skilled you are the full line will be more interesting, but not easy. Difficulty: 4.5(Max 5) M48: Tier 6 to Tier 9 are all below average power(of same tier), except Pershing have some armor when facing lower tier; hard line to play; M48 itself have decent armor and ship shape plate and good gun depression. Difficulty: 4 T57 Heavy: Tier 6 and 7 are light tanks with 0 armor and clip gun. Tier 8 and 9 are interesting, even though they have less armor but it's perfect to learn how to use their clips. Tier 10 have good armor and speed, decent for all users: Shoot all loads and hide. Difficulty: 3 T110E3: If you got the engine with free experience, then it's better. Even you have perfect front armor, do not always show your front when you are at the front line, stay at 1.5 line and snipe: Higher tiers like T28, T95 and E3 also have to be caution: Many heavies can pen you and broke your track easily, and you don't have high HP. Difficulty: 4 T110E4: After the upgrade the whole line is now very convenient to play. Tier 6 and 7 are more like meds with 0 armor(T25/2 has a few on turret), Tier 8 has good front armor and gun, but can't shoot what behind it; Tier 9 is: Stock gun, T29; Second gun, fast shooting T34; Max gun, T30(Lol). E4 is a great TD, you can cautionly use it as a heavy but always needs allies at ur side, cause u can't turn turret to the back. Difficulty: 2.5 T110E5: The full line is deadly perfect, but struggle when it's blank. Tier 6 has good front armor, Tier 7 has a big turret but good front armor and gun depression with 310 alpha damage; sometimes you can use side armor to take damage. Tier 8's gun is a problem(poor pen), but it has a good turret that is harder to pen compare to tier 7 and 9. Tier 9 has decent armor but the head is kind of big and when you turn it, it is more easy to be pened. Tier 10 used to be one of the most powerful heavy tank(8.4s loading), perfect front turret and front armor, has reaction armor and super speed add-on, still worth to get nowadays. Difficulty: 2 M-VI-Yoh: See in video, difficulty: 2
@Pr.Wyvern Жыл бұрын
The M48 was my first tier 10, and God, grinding it was really painful. the E5 was my second tier 10 and the grind was much more easier. Currently enyoying both of them, the M48 requires a bit more skill to pull out a good game with it, and the E5 is really solid on it's own
@MarcoPolows Жыл бұрын
Great vid man I hope you hit 3k subscribers ❤
@robertgray6577 Жыл бұрын
Informative and helpful thank you 👍👍👍👍
@bogdanpajic8583 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, i would add WZ-113 on this list. It has great armor a pen and also has one of the best dpms in tier 10. Anyway good video, keep it up
@stuartyao4440 Жыл бұрын
The tech tree line is a pain to grind
@thiluongnguyen7956 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work man
@SMV-CC889 ай бұрын
My line is still good for people who know hulldown, if you are good at that and like good dpm and pen, this is the best option for hull down passive play.
@elsamu9458 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the most frendly branches for begginers are most certainly: Sheridan E100 JgPz E100 Obj 268 60TP And for a medium branch all have bad low tiers tanks, I would suggets Progetto line is good but you have to learn how to play This is my opinion since I've been playing for 9 years. Those lines are overall pretty good in terms of that most of the tanks are good and easy to play. The rest of lines needs a balance change in my opinion, there are some awful tanks that havent been buffed since years. The IS-7 line should be there but the KV1s and IS1 might have been left behind in the meta, IS3 hull armmor used to be good (I remember more than 225 pen was needed and few had it), and now its mediocre, and Is8 is a good heavium but you might struggle to get is7. Same for the IS4, kv3 and kv4 arent very noob friendly. Ask me if you want to know something, I havent tested all the tanks but its the feeling I had when I researched them and when I encounter them now in battle. Also I encourage you to install Armor Inspector and learn the armor profiles
@ghostremnant_2499 Жыл бұрын
The sheridan is good for beginners? If so then I have found my new obsession for a tech tree. Also I agree with you on the other tanks as I am certainly a beginner. Currently have myself the 45tp, tiger 2, and nashorn.will go for the jgpz e100 through the nashorn. or maybe will go back to the stug bc I loved it's speed, accuracy and dpm.
@elsamu9458 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostremnant_2499 Yes, t49 and t92e1 are both good. I suggest keeping the nashorn line if you enjoy the gameplay, rhm, wt pz and grille are nerfed but can still be effective. Jagpanther 2 and jagdtiger have great guns as well as jageroo. Good luck and have fun, the progression is way faster now a days :P
@thetellybridgerr Жыл бұрын
My first tier ten was fr is4 and I was struggling with the mobility so I decided to get the t100lt and recently I got it now I need a td. And it will be the german one. Already have a tier 8 premium t44-100 so its the right choise
@HMNswiss2 ай бұрын
As the phrase say "do not buy the 60TP" 4:17
@Steiner_IIX Жыл бұрын
very precious overview!! THX
@RamsonHoliday Жыл бұрын
remember that starting from the type 68 it is no longer the imperial japan, so the design might look completely different.
@Fedev4 Жыл бұрын
Great vid👍
@franksullivan1873 Жыл бұрын
Gravitizing was so much fun.I was laughing so hard when skeet shooting small tanks.
@dassy_das Жыл бұрын
Congrats 3k subs
@sovietbearcze1882 Жыл бұрын
Now we need a vid about ammo! :D
@Krim4444 Жыл бұрын
map positions video yesssir
@zellylong323 Жыл бұрын
The type 71 used to be the meta tank in tournaments because it had great mobility for a heavy but they nerfed it so bad that it now only has half the mobility it once had. It’s still a pretty decent tank tho
@anormalperson2679 Жыл бұрын
it's still a great tank, not op but it's still pretty much a better IS-4 with improved suspension module and plays more or less somewhat like a super conqueror/T110E5 with the gun depression module, and in the next update it's getting 420 alpha dmg so yeah, I just see a better IS-4 when I play this tank. one of my favorite tanks, I loved the IS-4 but it gets nerfed next update so oh well, I'll be using this one much more often
@ShyitFard69 Жыл бұрын
What mod are you using for the older gun sounds
@thesweatchman Жыл бұрын
It is default gun sounds
@ShyitFard69 Жыл бұрын
@thesweatchman where can I find this mod at?
@TheOldVoid Жыл бұрын
At first, i didnt like the gravity game mode, but after alot of games i started liking.
@timmarsh4029 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@the_gamer_gang14410 ай бұрын
I love flying
@chiefnastygaming84852 ай бұрын
Watching this a year after it released. You've made 25k subs at this time! Congrats man!
@Steady_Valiant Жыл бұрын
3k subs congratulations for you Bro😉👌
@bonebone-dw3wm8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video brother, it helps a lot
@Jbal4 Жыл бұрын
This is extremely helpful because I ruined my win rate grinding the grille first not knowing how little armour the tanks in the line have but now I’m either gonna grind the 60tp or the yoh but thank you so much
@ArneGram Жыл бұрын
hi, im loking for videos about the wz 120/ wz121 will u upload such?
@Tonkgerman Жыл бұрын
tank i recommend for new player is E100 line i mean line is very good as long you know how to use them easliy
@mikefiero Жыл бұрын
No no no. Too many new players are using the e100 so poorly.
@vinu-gaming526910 ай бұрын
T 57 heavy in my opinion is also good. It can do 1200 dmg in 5 sec. Decent turret but useless when brawling.
@Thisguyiscr4zyАй бұрын
My first tank when I was new to wotb in 2021, was the Grille and it was awesome even though it had paper armor. Now in my new PC account I have Obj. 268 and BC25t (already had BC)
@DJEjay198Ай бұрын
My first tech tree tier X is the grille 15 but I’ve been playing for 4 Years because I kept losing my progress
@phoenixplagued2963 Жыл бұрын
6:47 I get penned everytime, maybe it's an exchange for not being ammoracked after 30 battles
@-tgr3727 Жыл бұрын
Did fv 215b is also good the beginners ?
@thesweatchman Жыл бұрын
No, Fv215b worst tank for begginer😅
@airnote3266 Жыл бұрын
I dont think Yoh and proggeto should be be here for beginners both tank doesn't have good armor and are auto loaders not the best to start with i think E 50M would be better MT to start with
@playing_with_titan253 Жыл бұрын
Btw I really like your content always to the point not keep talking about something Keep up the good work
@justcflair226 Жыл бұрын
I know this doesnt have much to do with the video but I still want to ask So I am a beginner and I researched and bought Alecto but now I think I might have made mistake. Anyway my question is: Should I try to get Matilda or Should I try to grind for different tank or Should I just stick with Alecto
@hawnyfox3411 Жыл бұрын
Hi @justcflair - Seeing as no-one has bothered responding to you, I will 🤔 = Alecto is a bad choice IMHO Alecto leads to the dull & slow AT. line Please, please DO get the Matilda & go up THAT line, here's why. Matilda IS a real Boss tank over @ Tier.4 & played correctly, CAN even dominate many Tier.5's (I got a Rasenai = 7 The Churchill line IS rather slow & boring, but it DOES lead to the superb Tier.VII "BLACK PRINCE" beast !!!! The Alecto line is truly for masochists - I'd sincerely advise either the German or Soviet lines and also (surprisingly) the JAPANESE line which goes via "Ju Nu" > "Ju To" > Chi Se > leading up to the "Type.71" eventually. I'll continue on another post in your line of posts or thread....
@hawnyfox3411 Жыл бұрын
@justcflair = I'd also advise the German line via Pz.IV-G > VK.36-01 > Tiger.1 line and also it's equivalent T/d's Hetzer > StuG.II > Jg.Pz.IV > Jagdpanther as the latter two are beastly when played correctly & big DPM each. If ya go Soviet, go KV.1 > KV.1S > (Get the KV.2 also & use the 107mm) > IS > IS.3 > etc & the Su.152 line also Matilda > Crusader > Cromwell or Firefly > Comet etc as you have variation there too (plus "HESH" shells too) Also the POLISH line is very good ; Alas you'll have to go thru the miserable Tier.5 "M/42" to unlock E.U stuff Another GREAT suggestion is DEFINITELY GO VIA "Semovente" > "Bassotto" as those little beauties definitely DO punch far above their own weight, but bearing in mind they are T/d's & so they have fixed guns & awkward mobility Gotta use the "Stug.III" > "Jagdpazner.IV" > "Jagdpanther" branch as they ARE both deadly & fun That Japanese line I've suggested really takes some beating, "Ju Nu" > "Ju To" > "Chi Se" leading to "Type.71" Give me your player name & I'll add you on as "friend" & can chat or advise "if" you need ?????? I've been playing since Nov' 2014 and also run several successful clans (although they ARE currently FULL) Remember please - these ARE just suggestions & ideal for beginners, but might not suit some viewers here !!
@justcflair226 Жыл бұрын
@@hawnyfox3411 Thanks for the advice. I had already changed from Alecto to Matilda. Honestly I didnt really enjoy playing with Alecto that much but when I switched to Matilda it was much better (both winrate and fun) I do have Crusader now and I'L be honest I dont have the greatest win rate with it but I don t think its the tank fault but probably my skill. Anyway I would like to know if its better for me to grind straight to tier 10 or try to get just to tier 5-6 and then going for tier 10? Account Name:Tom_Sk_Blitz
@civsully1740 Жыл бұрын
An excellent vid and just what is needed at this time for newer players like myself. Very well done! Looking forward with great interest to your map series and I hope you have one vid that focuses on TDs for the different maps. Thx!
@Jw15918 Жыл бұрын
My first t10 was the E100 It was good but i got bored of it I tried the jg next but also got bored Tried the type 71 and got clapped every game i played (skill issue yes ik) Tried the 60tp and i like it so its my current t10
@loiclabonne5708 Жыл бұрын
So in Tier 8, the JPanther II is better than the Ferdinand?
@rageleonardreas8807 Жыл бұрын
I try gravitizing for the first time it was so annoying because of the abilities and gravity also power ups... but later on, I dominated the game hahaha it was hilarious tanks flying aways like going to space hahaha...
@izaiahdatu7794 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro i appreciate your hard work im working my way up to the yoh tanks
@arisfahrezy380210 күн бұрын
I train the type 71 but stuck on tier 8 bcs it have bad penet,and the amor idk its feels weak
@bogdanlaza4515 Жыл бұрын
My first Tire 10 tank was T110E4, before it got buffed, now is a killing machine, great armour and great dmg/s, I remember when I got it first, was a pain because off that cupola XD
@Matoil738 Жыл бұрын
I love the game mode, on it i just got my first tier 10 tank. Its the amx 50 b.
@saleem.680 Жыл бұрын
Good video thanks i got type 71 because of you and i hope i get the battle pass too❤
@tutranthithanh5092 Жыл бұрын
I would add is7 cuz , it's have mobility , strong turret , troll side armor (spaced armor so it's can reduce HEAT and HE pen) , high alpha gun , good pen (10,3 update of course) , and yes , it's a meme and very gud 4 newbie to learn how to play IMO
@coolfloppa4033 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure that none of the tanks from tier 5 in the Japanese heavy line don't exsist, watch Cone of arc's video on this tank line.
@TSargeant Жыл бұрын
Sweatchman any answer for my question??? Thanks for your commentating on the tanks and game! I like how you explained thing so people can understand it!
@jeffhillstead33024 ай бұрын
I only play encounter.. So.. 😊 let the new players know about crew training and equipment use.. 😮
@innos3615 Жыл бұрын
my first nearly seven years ago was the 62a.... the HEAT-54 were the good old days lol
@derf-vr1fc Жыл бұрын
The only modes I really liked are the skirmish and the realistic modes.
@Jerry-sf5sc Жыл бұрын
I got jgpz e100 as my first t10 and I can tell you, the line was ABSOLUTELY GREAT, especially nashorn and jgpanther, I did more avg damage with jgpanther than jgpz e100 which is insane My next tank is fv4005 which is a bad choice since I only have 1,5k battles but I'll get isu152 and su152 and then is7 (I'm at is3...) then obj 268 which idk if it's good or not
@febzkk Жыл бұрын
Obj 268 is decent, mobility is good, alpha is good, but armor easily get pen even if u are angling it.. SU & ISU-152 is more fun than Obj 268
@ghostremnant_2499 Жыл бұрын
How is the is3 treating you? I got it as my first tier 8 and was slapped across the face with the poor hull armor and accuracy but I am getting better with it and am starting to love it.
@Jerry-sf5sc Жыл бұрын
@@ghostremnant_2499 trash, that's why I changed my line
@Jerry-sf5sc Жыл бұрын
@@ghostremnant_2499 I'm grinding fv4005 but the charioteer is just super trash
@thetellybridgerr Жыл бұрын
Man grind the t100lt I highly recomend the tier 9 of it lit bouncing t9-10 tank destroyers while sidescraping or just running
@letsplaygames9494 Жыл бұрын
what is the best tank for tournament???
@supermoaaz Жыл бұрын
My opinion on gravitising is that I hate it. Why,because of the blood trail ability, it's annoying when you get its effect because it's impossible to dodge due to low gravity, and also, they didn't add the thruster ability but the developers said it was to make the game mode fair on the stream where whe get news on the gravitising mode and the objective:Sheridan missile event,so to be honest it might've been a disappointment to the WOTB community.
@bloxxerv4205Ай бұрын
I just need a tank destroyer with high pen and very high damage for tier 10 and FV 215b 183 suits my taste. (grinding it has been very painful so far) . I am not very experienced player but personally I like to sit and snipe ppl from far rather than CQC so tank destroyers are ideal for me. I have already gotten used to getting outmanuevered by light tanks so it's ok for me.
@HMI_Hanif-art Жыл бұрын
nice info
@THE_183_GUY10 ай бұрын
I hate tier 5,6,7 tanks because you be like [ I wish kv-2 or smasher doesnt show up] each game :(
@robertgray6577 Жыл бұрын
You are always very informative, with great content and very helpful. Thank you 👍👍👍👍
@pongsakornmanotham9651 Жыл бұрын
The type 71 is kindda like the leopard 1 in german tech tree
@IAmASTURGEON-rv5rk25 күн бұрын
the emil line is great tbh
@anotheryoutubeidiot8785 Жыл бұрын
Both surprised and not surprised the IS-7 isn't here, pretty much every good player I know swears by it being this new player jesus tank that's good for learning the game despite the entire line being outdated and not up to par with some of todays tanks. Also one question, as a fairly average player, I can confidently say the 60tp line (mainly the tier 8 and 9) is not for newer players. Yeah, they're solid tanks and not *that* hard to play, but the armor layouts are wack and hard to angle. I don't remember the 53s hull armor being good either, since no matter how I positioned it the plethora of weak points on it made it hard to play it as a proper heavy.
@jarretfaisal Жыл бұрын
Gravitation mode is good for grinding XP. Get X5 multiplier + Legendary XP boosters + premium acc and you’ll get around 20k xp on average per victory.
@Inuvictus Жыл бұрын
I went for the E100 straight and i strugled with it.
@sorenclausen4900 Жыл бұрын
He is it physically possible to not do heed in the e100? I’m not trying to be rude but what is your win rate?
@sorenclausen4900 Жыл бұрын
How* bad* sorry for my spelling incompetence
@Kremzy01 Жыл бұрын
Actually i got 4 tech tree tier 10 tanks.. but tier 10 is little bit hard to play.. so now i switched to tier8.. i got the tiger 2 ill try to play it for sometime than gribd abother tier 8 tank but i really dont know what to grind xd
@BL4TZ.mp4 Жыл бұрын
What server are you on i want to play with you
@Lennon-ym8cn2 ай бұрын
You are the best person I ever knew
@Kris_2508-l9g Жыл бұрын
I got my first tier 10 tank today!
@picklesgamerxd096 Жыл бұрын
hi sweatch man could you give us top tanks that have best machine gun?
@soviet_union1936 Жыл бұрын
i reccomend the is7 and e100 and object268 lines granit with the 268line u need to know they have no armore but good
@ionutmaris8685 Жыл бұрын
My next tank is Jg. Pz. E100 now im at tier 9 and I need to play more for experienceand I also have 50tp and I think Im going to take 60tp after JpE100
@TheMightyErsatz Жыл бұрын
Is it worth it to grind IS-7 Tech tree? And also is it worth it to buy IS-6
@ReveredMaster Жыл бұрын
Here, take my sub.
@gustavzombie2961 Жыл бұрын
Wie hatt er den alten Schuss Sound
@futr4333Ай бұрын
11:37 i think a Ferdinand Are better Personal experiences M 84x 🌝
@gamemunix395211 ай бұрын
My first tank was kranvagn , with nord camo , it is fucking good tank
@filipkovar603910 ай бұрын
I have 50tp Tusskiewicza this tank is not bad👍
@hubabogui4853 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a vidéo about the best tanks for tanks hunter and snipers
@retrogamer545 Жыл бұрын
Whens the giveaway coming ???
@styv14 Жыл бұрын
Noone is going to talk about that this guy is one of the best wotb creators?
@TSargeant Жыл бұрын
Sweatchman can you answer a question for me? Nobody will respond to my question. What happens to all our “kit coins” after we get our tanks all equipped. They need to sell camo’s or tanks or something??? Can you help me out? Any answer for my question? Thanks bro and tank on…
@Marshall-rx7fe5 ай бұрын
Gravity gorgeous is the besttt
@Nebulachadlazzar Жыл бұрын
Hey man why did you repost it just curious?
@thesweatchman Жыл бұрын
first video was a error with a sounds (music and speaker)
@Nebulachadlazzar Жыл бұрын
@@thesweatchman ah I see well good work and I can’t wait to see the next video!
@Nebulachadlazzar Жыл бұрын
@@thesweatchman just got the tortoise i’m just gonna spend 25 bucks and just free xp the fv215b 183
@xxlegendxx9942 Жыл бұрын
Can you please show us how to fix fps drop
@angellsdreamz Жыл бұрын
i am not new i am a 8 year player but i took 2 years off and now the is-3 is trash i play the same it used to be op how i played it what happened can you do a vid on it??
@ESUIS7sg7 ай бұрын
15:39 Just because the pp 69 has an autoloader doesn’t translate into the best tank for newbies
@progaming-id5pf Жыл бұрын
Bro please made a video how to play with 60 tp❤
@BuddySupremeLeader Жыл бұрын
Plz give tips on how to get credits really need them
@Royal_Xxtynss Жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload?
@thesweatchman Жыл бұрын
Yes
@TetraHax Жыл бұрын
What about Kranvagn?
@35SF Жыл бұрын
Bruh fr skipped the super heavy tank in the Type71 tank tree and its hell playing that thing