Hayek and 𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙍𝙤𝙖𝙙 𝙩𝙤 𝙎𝙚𝙧𝙛𝙙𝙤𝙢 | Bruce Caldwell

[@reddirtwalker8041]

I just read The Road to Serfdom about a month ago and it was chilling how many of the beliefs and messaging the Socialist had back then are almost carbon copies of the messaging that you hear today. It did give me hope that we can recover from the socialist idiocy of today though since it has been done in the past.

[@friendlyone2706]

It has NEVER been fully recovered from. The "if only" crowd still sees socialism's failures as failure of people not ideology.

[@smak387]

Like Jesus said about the poor, "the Socialists/Marxists/Post Modernists will always be with us"

[@MichaelSHartman]

Socialism seems to attract, and create the delusional. Despite mountains of facts, and numerous examples of past, and living failures, they cling, and fight with bloody fingers, and broken nails to their precious despite it destroying them, and all those around them.

[@reddirtwalker8041]

@@smak387 They are generally the cause of collapse.

[@StevoLloyds]

@@friendlyone2706 Because for Socialism to work, there can be no dissent, no individualism, no self interest. In short, no humanity. Or, put another way, In theory, reality and theory are the same.

[@BrentPoynter]

Happiness in life boils down to liberty and your relationship with the Lord and your loved ones.

[@niciassmith1204]

Absolutely. That philosophy is going very well for the Christians in Gaza

[@BrentPoynter]

@@niciassmith1204 I guess you missed the liberty part.

[@rosesoulis1840]

​@@niciassmith1204GAZA IS Not YOUR BUSINESS....MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

[@georgejetson3648]

​@@rosesoulis1840Something a criminal says.

[@niciassmith1204]

@rosesoulis1840 No it is my business because my tax dollars go to Israel. The United States if you tally up all the official and off books funding to Israel since the 70s has probably been over 1 trillion. We subsidize Israel's population. Half of the adult male Orthodox Jews don't even work. And then on top of that Israel and its affiliated organizations like the ADL and HAIS are set out to destroy the United States.

[@chrissi3193]

This is a great introduction and such sound teaching. Deceptively simple ,but covers all possible bases really well. Excellent talk.

[@echopeakbicycling85]

Years ago I had failed to follow my father's urging for me to read this book. Looking around today, I certainly wish I had.

[@meinking22]

Hayek was right about the socialists thinking themselves scientists. One of the defining features of Marxism when Marx and Engels defended themselves against criticism was to claim their methodology was the "scientific" one. This may sound familiar today, but in his time, Marx claimed he was the one doing "the science."

[@MichaelSHartman]

Sounds like Fauci. A man who couldn't balance his checkbook, stay on a budget, or financially stay afloat despite a wealthy family continually giving him money thinking he could create an improved economic system is the pentacle of arrogance, and Dunning Kruger effect. The idea that others thought it prudent to follow is astonishing, and creates disillusionment in the faith that humans can reason.

[@rosesoulis1840]

Dictatorship hidden behind five syllable words.....the top 14 or 15 guys were always worried they would kill each other anytime they met

[@martine8457]

Des scientologues ! Ils ne sont jamais allé au fond ces gas là, ni connu la faim ... 🥺

[@Mrs.CGraves]

I always wondered if it was a way to prop himself UP in Society, like a typical free market Capitalist

[@daviru02]

Science should remain clear of politics or it's not science.

[@bill454]

This makes me think of Venzuala where people are starving.

[@anng.4542]

The rule of "experts" who enrich themselves at their countrmen's expense. Chavez's daughter is said to have a net worth of billions.

[@debbieramsey-hanks3757]

Thank you

[@here_we_go_again2571]

I read "The Road to Serfdom" and "1984" (by Orwell, published.1949) way back in the 1960's. At that point, after witnessing the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (some 4-5 years before I read those two books) I became an ardent anti-Communist and a skeptic regarding the benign nature of government. In other words, look out for "big government"; resist the MIC and the politicians in Congress and the White House who feather their nests as they govern. *Both books appear to have been prophetic!*

[@alanaadams7440]

My neighbor in Downey CA in the 50s was a refugee from Hungary. He escaped the communism in the 50s. He was a Baker he was so glad to be here in the US and be free. He did not speak well for the communism back in his country.

[@2Hesiod]

We are taxed 3/5ths of our income since business taxes are passed along, speaking of serfdom.

[@TheWhitehiker]

Thanks for cutting out these formalist introductions in this series.

[@Veganbutchershop]

We got here on the rand, hayek, Friedman, road to serfdom of anarcho capitalism. Now we are in free fall.

[@tinyleopard6741]

@Veganbutchershop Actually no, look up economic freedom index. The US keeps on going on a deficit, central banks target inflation and keep interest rates artificially low, there are increasing regulations on banks, insurance companies, rent controls, zoning laws, quotas, restricted competition, even vertical mergers that would benefit consumers are restricted, and so on.

[@Veganbutchershop]

@@tinyleopard6741 economic freedom index 🤪 does that take the cpi in contrast to the minimum wage or better the base wage including benefits of an E1 in the military. Dont talk to me about utopian happy horse crap anarcho capitalism fallacious rhetoric. Do you watch unicorns frolicking by the chocolate river?

[@Veganbutchershop]

@@tinyleopard6741 so einstein when the shtf and you are an anarc^ist who do you trust?

[@MariaMartinez-xm4fl]

❤

[@daviru02]

I don't know how they could say capitalism failed just because the depression happened. It's not like economies don't have their high highs and low lows. But, there's no other economy which gives the people their own ability to produce for the market as apposed to people who don't have their best interests in mind. I mean, who in their right mind can honestly say, "I want somebody else to make decisions for everything I do in my life."? Seriously

[@treyriver5676]

Robespierre the archetype for social engineers.

[@markbirmingham6011]

Comment for traction.

[@merlinwizard1000]

2nd, 25 January 2024

[@mountainrambler7926]

3:23 I might disagree with your conclusion here by saying that the offering of courses advocating for socialism was not a sign of dynamism, but of degradation.

[@yerasmus4025]

Why do you disagree?

[@mountainrambler7926]

See the text after “by saying that”

[@friendlyone2706]

Ended too soon.

[@MarcDufresneosorusrex]

Since free trade agreements (NAFTA) bought off most "socialist politicians", industries had abandoned any notion of reasonable work policy and haved left to move to countries that don't require them to follow those basic "rules". Now socialism is used to force green policies like "people like me pollute the planet". There was a time when "socialism" was a banner to fight for decent reasonable pay/hours/days of work but that's all but over. Teaching socialist ideas to an energy company or manufacturing plant would be like trying to teach a gorilla so that he is nice to the hyenas; they simply wouldn't care for compassionate behavior because survival in the market is their sole value.

[@HammeringTruth]

Why doesn't he address ZIRP?

[@JamesBlume-u4i]

Thank you. The context, with the logic, and ur presentation was interesting. But, how he came up with this! ? Go figure !

[@LABoyko]

Conveniently excluded here: National Socialists also had the backing of Anglo-American investment bankers.

[@katherinekelly6432]

Government oversight to temper the excesses of Capitalism is necessary. State planning that controls the individual is deadly to liberty. When Government is functioning properly the citizens freedom is expanded without harm to his neighbor.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

All governments are a unnecessary Evil, ppl are self organizing. most corporations cannot profit in open markets, so the need for government's. 😊

[@jayk7530]

Why is their an admiralty flag, a gold fringed flag being displayed on your stage?

[@insaaanestuff]

Maybe he’s on a boat. What dark truth are you speaking of?

[@insaaanestuff]

oh. i figured that just from the police state. not the flag.... 😬@@ib12541

[@rosesoulis1840]

Are you serious

[@jayk7530]

@@rosesoulis1840 you even know what a gold fringed flag stands for?

[@MichaelSHartman]

It's decoration. Don't read conspiracy into everything. The world is round. The Moon landing happened. You weren't abduced by aliens. Learn to spell there, not their, if you want to be taken seriously.

[@tombrunila2695]

The "freedom" of Hayek, von Mises and Friedmann is the "freedom"" to be exploited by corporations. It is also the "freedom" from democracy. And the "freedom" for government of being shackled by "of the people, by the people, for the people".

[@klausmkl]

America has been judged as a Goat Nation.

[@livingron9983]

Hate deceptive teasers; with a passion.

[@randywaldron2715]

The United States is currently an anocracy, not a democracy. It is in that intermediary stage between democracy and authoritarianism. There is a worldwide fascism movement which has taken over one of the two ruling political parties in this country. We did not arrive at this point through socialism. It was the inevitable result of the very process which Adam Smith warned against in The Wealth of Nations. In that work, Smith warned that unless the government aggressively regulated the economy the wealthiest citizens, those he referred to as the Masters of Mankind, would use their wealth to game the system and funnel all wealth to themselves. The supply side, trickle down nonsense of the current economic paradigm is the Genesis of this power grab by the Masters of Mankind which is currently fueling the fascist movement. This current situation can be traced back to the man and the book discussed in this video.

[@annalisavajda252]

Yes do not ignore the dangers of Capitalism either as with socialism the top few have the majority of wealth and most just suffer. Serfs were the commoners and The King ruling class owned all the land and just let people work on the land but had to pay high taxes for the "privilege". America may not have a king but they have wealthy elitists and gradually they will want to erode workers unions and safety standards again likely that's why they ship manufacturing jobs overseas to foreign companies or higher immigrants to work for lower wages want child labour again etc. it's not all just economics that ruin the quality of life but there will be more working poor slave type people without healthcare or housing though they have jobs.

[@alantasman8273]

The United States is a Constitutional Republic... we vote in Federal representatives to vote on our behalf. The fact that this is not understood my so many is frightening for our future. The best description I have heard of a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner.

[@epicphailure88]

@@alantasman8273 Liberal democracy is just bourgeois democracy with the illusion of choice.

[@epicphailure88]

Some major copium that we can only end up in serfdom in a system that pioritzes the profit motive above all else.

[@tinyleopard6741]

@epicphailure88 Tell farmers to ignore the profit motive, what could go wrong.

[@hillbilly4895]

Classical Liberalism, and the contemplations thereof, is way more exciting than this style of presentation. Wondering, if Hollywood wanted to make a blockbuster movie in support of this subject, how would they do it? Conversely, we see how they effective they are at presenting the opposite view, right?

[@toddjohnson271]

you are born stamped a number, with generational debt, under full surveillance for life, taxed on income, sales, everything.......you live in a police state. You may have Burger King or McDonalds and enjoy the TV.

[@rosesoulis1840]

Take a nap

[@AsifAhammad-uy1cy]

188 Countries

[@baibamennika4480]

There have never been established communism nowhere in the world!

[@jayk7530]

81st Congress declared the Bar Association (Lawyers Guild) a communist organization. If you see the way these tyrants/foreign agents act one can’t disagree with the Bar Association being an established communist organization.

[@xxxBradTxxx]

Look up Israeli Kibutz

[@talbenavraham1478]

​@xxxBradTxxx Even those rely on heavy subsidies to survive.

[@festeCanuck]

True, but I think you meant anywhere.

[@alantasman8273]

Actually, the Pilgrims upon coming to the North American continent adopted communism ...including parceling out the same amount of land to each family to till and produce from its soil. What they produced collectively was then provided to a common store that all would draw from. They learned very quickly that many did not work as hard as some in their administration of their lands yet benefited from the common store. After learning about human nature...the Pilgrims instituted a policy that families could keep what they had produced and sell any produce above what they needed. There was no common store. Those who didn't work...didn't eat. A policy undermined by modern welfare.

[@nocucksinkekistan7321]

He needs to learn to speak