Human Nature and the Divided Brain | Iain McGilchrist

[@ximono]

I think the world needs a McGilchrist College.

[@robertsmuggles6871]

He is today's Einstein or Darwin. Reading his book "The Master and His Emissary" is a brutal challenge to the mind. Fortunately Dostoevsky summed it all up in the short phrase "Beauty will save the world" - McGilchrist actually shows by medical evidence how and why this is indeed true; his argument is truly inspiring compelling. The world needs a McGilchrist religion or a new enlightenment.

[@nschlaak]

My dad was left-handed and always had a tough time in a right-handed world. When I discovered that left-handed people use the right side of their brain and vice versa I came up with this humor to ease their lot in life. "People who are left-handed use the right side of their brain and people who are right-handed use what's left." Dad laughed and that was all that mattered.

[@Ruthyism-]

😂 Nice!!

[@Worthrhetime]

As a lefty… I appreciate that.

[@TJ-kk5zf]

If that's what you came away with, you utterly missed mcgilchrist's point. You are adhering to the old myths about the right and left hemispheres that he debunks... in the first minute

[@Ruthyism-]

@@TJ-kk5zf It was making light of a cute joke a child had for their parent…relax. Smile a little! It does wonders for the heart and both hemispheres.

[@TJ-kk5zf]

@@Ruthyism- he's trying to dispel the myths that you're reinforcing

[@0ucantstopme034]

Listening to Dr. McGilchrist describe the process of receiving his fellowship to "All Souls" is amazing. Some truly gifted people out there...

[@Ginkgobonobo]

Last week Academy of Ideas releases a video centered around Iain McGichrist's ideas, and in that same week this comes out. Change (in our world's perceptions)is afoot.

[@TRUTHorSTFU]

....and, at hand! 😉

[@ximono]

Hope so, hope so, as the quakers say.

[@livenotbylies4412]

Being able to watch these two brilliant men and share in their conversation was a blessing! Thank-you to Hillsdale for helping us to be wiser through great interviews such as this.

[@helenperala3459]

I am so happy to find this interview. I joined Hillsdale College because I wanted to study some of the things they teach. I completed the C.S.Lewis on Christianity course and the one on Children's Classical Literature and enjoyed both thoroughly. I have stopped for a short time as I consider the next one I feel drawn to study but I know who Larry is! And Iain has to be my favorite speaker at this time (2024). I am going to enjoy this. And now, to listen.....:)

[@tyronefarrell2080]

Thank you both Iain McGilchrist and Larry Arnn for an hour and a quarter of comfortable conversation that helped me gain insight from the many pieces of information I randomly gather that listening to the two of you sparked an understanding.

[@lancelotdufrane]

Listening to a man that resonates. We listen and believe. Very intriguing. Enjoyed this conversation.

[@edybrasfield1345]

Thanks much you both for sharing your wisdom with us. Blessings!

[@mills8102]

I am very grateful to hear the issue of discovering for one's self expanded on. Thank you, Dr. McGilchrist and thank you hillsdale college for providing the venue. 🙏

[@EuricoRosadaSilva-h7d]

This is a brilliant conversation! Gratitude!

[@blairmckee9587]

Outstanding conversation! This knowledge of the brain has a massive impact on our understanding of personal relationships, parenting, education, politics, theology and the church… Big stuff! God bless you and thank you for this…

[@jennymcgowin9140]

I could listen to you two gentlemen all day long!❤❤

[@dalemyers9439]

I have great respect for Hillsdale College and the courses available online.

[@OldScrewl1928]

What an excellent discussion! Thoroughly enjoy being exposed to great ideas thought by great thinkers!

[@PJAlaska]

Two amazing men that do so much good in this world. Both set the bar very high, certainly examples to follow . I hope to get there one day

[@WalkingInNature23]

Observing the unconscious body language of expression during this interview makes me wonder how different it would be if both were walking side by side in a natural green or blue space. Wisdom and wonder watching this discussion will widen my brain. Thank you both.

[@scientifico]

What bothered me was the artifice... for a talk centered around perception of reality. Thats not an actual library but a set. Note how the light beam on the floor does not move for the entire hour. Note the fireplace that does not flicker. Hillsdale College may be as much a place of higher education as Prager U... but they did present dr. McGilchrist who is a true evangelist for a way of seeing that could free the world

[@ximono]

I think that's a great idea that would lift the conversation. Curt Jaimungal of Theory of Everything has said he wants to go (literally) in that direction. It's probably more difficult to get right, requiring a more professional sound and camera crew, but I think it would be well worth it if one can afford it.

[@Worthrhetime]

That was an amazing conversation and a gift. Thank you. Can I have some more please?

[@ximono]

I can recommend the video with Iain McGilchrist, Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke and Daniel Schmachtenberger. Although you may not like or agree with some of these thinkers, it was a really interesting conversation. They do agree on some very essential points.

[@HeloisaAOliveira]

Even though Consciousness was not once mentioned , the road was well paved and I was delighted with such superb landscape. Thank You Dr McGilchrist and Mr Larry P. Annn

[@tinychapter.]

57:20 there you go

[@stvbrsn]

Not once. More like 7 or 8 times.

[@gilliani.4328]

Wonderful, informative dialogue that sparks my curiosity. Thank you to you both.

[@Gunni1972]

Very nice conversation. Liked it a lot from a humanistic perspective.

[@lukefreeperson]

36:55 this point is fantastic!

[@katnip198]

Wonderful conversation. Two delightful men. Thank you.

[@carollima20]

I love this scennary of this show 🙂

[@daphneradenhurst724]

Wonderful!

[@geraldmaybebaby1585]

Wow. The opening wide angle shot of that room blew my mind. Such a pretty room. The lighting. Very movie. I hope it's not a very sophisticated podcast set.

[@scientifico]

it is a set. Not the fireplace, the light on the floor that never moves.

[@carollima20]

it´s stunning, so pretty. I love this room scennary for the show...

[@ximono]

I hope you also listened to the conversation 😉

[@br4180]

I really like this man..

[@carolynfield5531]

I’ve long had doubts about Sapolski’s ideas. Glad to hear I am not alone.

[@Alex-sr7xu]

59:55 I needed this.

[@ejenkins4711]

It would be amazing to stand behind ian

[@JennyMoore-v2u]

I wish we could read what Dr Iain McGilchrist wrote (in the two hours he had during his All Souls Fellowship exam ) on the subject of evil . He said that it was photocopied and kept for him. It was clearly brilliant.

[@0_3_6_9_0]

Thank you! ❤🙏🏼💯 respect. 23:43

[@richarddebono7092]

You told us about a commentary on Aristotle being on your website, but your website does not show it. Anyway, thanks for the interesting conversation.

[@tinman1952]

The following quote is from Carlos Castaneda's book The Power of Silence describing one of his experiences under the tutelage of his benefactor don Juan Matus, a Yaqui Indian man of knowledge. Note the correspondence with Dr McGilchrist's teaching. "I abruptly pulled over to the side of the road. And right there I had, for the first time in my life, a clear knowledge of a dualism in me. Two obviously separate parts were within my being. One was extremely old, at ease, indifferent. It was heavy, dark, and connected to everything else. It was the part of me that did not care, because it was equal to anything. It enjoyed things with no expectation. The other part was light, new, fluffy, agitated. It was nervous, fast. It cared about itself because it was insecure and did not enjoy anything, simply because it lacked the capacity to connect itself to anything. It was alone, on the surface, vulnerable. That was the part with which I looked at the world. I deliberately looked around with that part. Everywhere I looked I saw extensive farmlands. And that insecure, fluffy, and caring part of me got caught between being proud of the industriousness of man and being sad at the sight of the magnificent old Sonoran desert turned into an orderly scene of furrows and domesticated plants. The old, dark, heavy part of me did not care. And the two parts entered into a debate. The fluffy part wanted the heavy part to care, and the heavy part wanted the other one to stop fretting, and to enjoy."

[@jaysphilosophy1951]

You never stop learning.....

[@Alex-sr7xu]

Two good explanation of both the hemispheres: 22:17 - (22:48) 1:07:52 - (1:08:38)

[@JennyMoore-v2u]

Could we possibly have access to the two hour essay Dr McGilchrist wrote on the subject of Evil - he mentioned it when talking about his Fellowship exam for All Souls. He said a copy was made for him. It was obviously brilliant!

[@bretnetherton9273]

Awareness is known by awareness alone.

[@stvbrsn]

Indeed. But also… words are words by words.

[@debbieramsey-hanks3757]

Thank you for. a welcomed unveiling.

[@janetsanders5356]

Regarding freedom, I think part of the problem with people thinking they have total freedom is that they often don't take into consideration the flip side of freedom. To the extent that one has freedom of choice one becomes responsible for the consequences of those choices. Choosing to Drive drunk, then responsible if a pedestrian is killed as a result.

[@NineInchTyrone]

All Souls at 21 !

[@patmat.]

Left hemisphere: "I know what I know" Righ hemisphere: "Yeah and look where that has brought us, AH!"

[@vincentlaw1415]

I really wonder what Iain thinks about the Integral Theory of Ken Wilber, especially because he mentions a progressive spiral.

[@glenhendler7709]

The wise leader empowers people. The wise teacher asks questions. The wise parent listens to children.

[@danspencer4288]

I see a resonance between Dr. McGilchrist's ideas and those of Aristotle. The process involved by the left brain would appear to parallel what is pursued by the intellectual virtue of "episteme." The process involved by the right brain would appear to parallel what is pursued by the intellectual virtues of "techne" and "phronesis"...especially the latter. Episteme, explicated as theory, is an explicit form of knowledge. Phronesis is a tacit form of knowledge and is embodied in specific contexts through tacit knowing of the unique particulars of a social context (subsidiary awareness according to Polanyi). Phronesis certainly could be viewed as a more wholistic and intuitive "master" that would treat episteme as the "servant" in facilitating moral-practical human judgments. Would have loved to have gotten Dr. McGilchrist's reaction to these observations.

[@flamechick6]

Our 4.5 year old uses both hands. She is our 5th out of 6 kids. Everyone else is right handed. Wonder how her interactions and world are different inside. She does act a bit differently than the others.

[@williamwhitten7820]

*The unconscious is where intuition dwells.*

[@Kay-rp1fz]

The left brain working on its own just creates Frankenstein’s monster, Mary Shelley was prophetic

[@blisstickmystic]

16:21 It's like the conscious brain has memory and that allows for continuous awareness and the subconscious is deeply in the moment and involved in construction or building the equation from the recall of information, so together they create and solve and daydream

[@blisstickmystic]

So I was analyzing my toys as a child because I was taking them apart and often couldn't put them back together because of damage . So I was being neglected when my parents tried to find toys I couldn't break apart

[@MS-od7je]

Even though I can quote movie lines after the first viewing some movies I’ll watch again and again. I think I could do McGilchrist’s interviews in his place. Come to think about it I could probably do the same with Michael Levin. Thankfully no one can copy me( well maybe my brother ) . I have resolved to give up no more information until the time is right and only then by direct means. The brain is a Mandelbrot set complex morphology! Understand why it is so!

[@thomasdavies2555]

This guy and sapolsky need to debate

[@arthurh5707]

Am interested in both academicians. What would they debate?

[@BubbleGendut]

I think Sapolsky is correct free Will is an illusion plus apparently awakened people’s accounts also refer to having no control in life everything is a flow.

[@scientifico]

Dr. McGilchrist is a far fuller understanding of "the matter with things" than can be found in the pedagogy offered at Hillsdale. I've seen the ads they run on youtube and by nature of it being founded to elevate a western chauvinist ideology it is fully committed to left hemispheric perception. BUT, if students and staff of Hillsdale choose to explore more of McGilchrist's profound and utterly simple (and even intuitive) works (daresay "philosophy"), You would soon find yourself enriched and immersed in wonder and humility... that it was all here the entire time.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Pops these Angels who persevere and Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM will look at. Unto all who tempt and to provoke WHO? He remembering "DO NO MORE"! NEVERTHELESS!

[@bramblemat]

Moley had an idea! He jumped out of his seat and shouted reuka! Have you any idea how rich this could make me...

[@poor_jafar]

12:15 21:00 55:25 56:35 58:30 1:09:32

[@santkumar-qb7nr]

Human nature is heart related brain 🧠 is different department .they're .No actions is possible without agreeing of both super organs 😊

[@Bartisim0]

Could diet influence brain hemisphere dynamics, potentially easing symptoms of mental health conditions? I'm curious whether adopting a ketogenic or carnivore diet might mitigate symptoms of depression or schizophrenia, considering the theory that an overactive left brain is linked to schizophrenia. How does diet impact this dynamic?

[@stvbrsn]

1:09:24 Korzybski comes to mind…

[@geoffreydawson5430]

36:22 gaslighting starts. If you are wondering, my conservative teachers are Mark Carder and Ajahn Martin. But I am not conservative.

[@VenusLover17]

❤❤

[@dejanmarkovic3040]

The host is decent, but I can't help thinking of the latin proverb - Cave ab homine unius libri...how many times did he mention Aristotle? Still, cool, respectful, composed host with respectful questions and just general discourse decency.

[@ximono]

I noticed that the host quoted Aristotle, Hobbes, Machiavelli and Churchill. McGilchrist quoted Nicholas of Cusa, Scheler, Heidegger. It's interesting to note which authors people quote.

[@everythingflows3639]

​@@ximonoFor McGilchrist, Heraclitus is king. You could argue IM's whole philosophy is, to a significant extent, an application and elaboration of Heraclitus' ontology.

[@bryanutility9609]

Everyone talking about this guy & left right brain right now.

[@zeroxox777]

We don't know human nature - we know nature distorted, perverted and destroyed by a total social historical process that includes intellect and civilization. The 'divided nature' is actually nature dominated by culture, producing a fictituous duality between what actually is, and what we think. But what we think is part of actuality. Alas, actuality forms no part of what we think and can never do, because thought cannot touch the actual. It can only abstractly 'represent' the actual. That is not touching the actual. That is not knowing the actual. Only the actual ever is, and it is what is. It is your life, your world, your consciousness, your actuality, your existence, so many words for the one THAT. Only consciousness is. Everything else, including the world, are mere words for patterns in sensation, sensations being patterns in awareness, awareness being the only thing that always ever is, and never changes, and never speaks or labels or asserts so can never be wrong. It can never be right or wrong. It can never be me or you. It just is, and nothing can touch it, because it is already nothing, as well as all that is. These are facts. You can only see these facts. Thought cannot touch them.

[@chrisstein5128]

To me it seems a paradox, the left brain is like a bank as we create, invent and innovate the advancement gets deposited mapped into the left brain. The masses withdraw, the imaginative, innovative enjoy and express and contribute for a moment. Seems a hope would be to inspire amplify and perpetuate the right brains attributes.

[@NineInchTyrone]

At the end of the day, we are all self taught

[@ThermaL-ty7bw]

you know we're monkeys , right ? so NO , definitely NOT self taught , neither is EVERY OTHER ANIMAL ON THIS PLANET they ALL learn by COPYING other members of the species , except for the Cuckoo bird

[@ejenkins4711]

I was left handed until 2004 wen i had an encounter with something and started writing strange stuff. The encounter was with CGJUNG

[@merlinwizard1000]

2nd, 23 April 2024

[@dominickmas2133]

19:06

[@TJ-kk5zf]

All of the left-handed commenters really really really really really really really miss the point. In fact, you are embracing a neurological mythology which he dismisses in the first minute of this talk.

[@TimothyDonald-o9m]

Albert Spring

[@boostup465]

700 million years?

[@PaulBorchers-uj1bt]

And that's why Jesus the Lord over our mind told us to cast our net to the right, for the right is the part that sees the father of all creation in his unified wholly glory 😮

[@stvbrsn]

Implicatio. Explicatio. Complicatio.

[@cyberpunkworld]

One likes skirts, but that's just bait, that's just bait, because in the fourth a witchcraft blueprint is made :))

[@oliverjamito9902]

Pops it's vital! For a strongest Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM to raised an infant daughter! Specially the most Hated Man! My Beautiful shared "i" AM. What is Hate? Thy "i" AM beautiful will say, is murder unto Thee! Likewise bring to remembrance unto many Who am I beautiful?

[@wendellbabin6457]

31:10 Known. How can anything that is changing constantly and RANDOMLY and most of the time chaotically "KNOWN"? Or even predicted? Is it a particle or is it a wave? We'll be waiting but we are tired of funding the same question over and over and over. How did Einstein describe that?

[@oliverjamito9902]

Our beautiful Women remember ye all just Women in front! Remember without my Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM ye all can't be MOTHERS in front! Remember from thee both as 1! Here "i" AM= many shared "i" AM! Pops what is singularity? Pops ye know already! Where all name nor names, #'s, nor formulas came from 1st? Even my Angels who persevere knows? Why silent? But to observe 1ST! Even though have not said a WORD UNTO US! Silent in front! Know thy places and positions in FRONT! Heard!

[@TantorNa]

Interesting, but Dr. Arnn was a distraction. He kept pulling Dr. McGilchrist away from the core of the issue by asking somewhat irrelevant questions about his personal life, rather than the subject at hand. I would have asked about species, gender and racial aspects of the divided brain. For example, how is it that only mammals have connections between the two halves. How does the lack of the connection affect non-mammal behavior. Isn't it true that women have more connections? And are there racial differences. These are actually very important for our time.

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[@oliverjamito9902]

Pops which ye prefer? What is an atomic bomb? Is like, what is OLDER THAN TREES? Nor who sitteth upon older than TREES? Heaven fled away liken unto scrolls and the mountains moved out from their places? The SUN became black Sackcloth of HAIR and the Moon blood.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Nor "DO NO MORE"! Therefore preserve an OPEN DOOR! NOONE CAN SHUT!

[@jeffwangsgaard8542]

Interesting to see that Hillcrest is promoting Hermetic Thought. Interesting. 🤔 😢

[@busibee976]

People making ideas way to difficult.

[@ThermaL-ty7bw]

it's to snag people like this comment section , who don't know anything ABOUT anything , which makes this lecture so enticing to people with less then 2 braincells

[@ximono]

But simple ideas are often dangerous.

[@Geo_not_Neo5381]

This is a waste of my time and lucky for me i got plenty of time unlike you theres hours left on the clock.

[@KL0098]

27:40 How self-contented these two sound, damning social media as the world's destroyer even as they bask in their proud ignorance of what they're damning. Imagine trying to end a pandemic by paying attention to a xylographer who never studied virology. This is why we need analysist, reductionists, specialists of all sorts, instead of world-fleeing, college-secluded generalist nostalgists overeager to resurrect a "man of letters" type whose sell date ended three centuries ago.

[@mznxbcv12345]

Why is Iain McGilchrist popping up everywhere now? His book was only useful insofar the clinical cases it presented, his entire methodology is flawed otherwise; The left hemisphere which he constantly characterizes as is "Western" (whatever that means) is specifically what is activated during meditation, in particular with lomg-term meditators. In addition, it is the Right hemisphere, not the left which is associated with depression. Whatever original contribution in the book of his is not even worth considering. A Cryptofacist is what he is.

[@skylinefever]

I often joke about how "XYZ is western" when the alt right says something about undeveloped economies. Meanwhile, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan are eastern. They are developed economies and have crap birth rates.

[@ximono]

A cryptofascist? Where did you get that from?

[@samdiamond3402]

Brilliant!!!