Hinch, Cora, Beltran at center of Astros scandal

[@kenarthur6253]

If you really want to punish the Astros, make them do a 100% swap of current Astros players with current Orioles players!

[@elchancho8432]

Ken Arthur 😂

[@Hiker63]

😂

[@krispyasfk2567]

😂😂😂

[@starkillxer6238]

That wouldn’t punish anyone except astros fans.... which I’m still down for

[@peterszymanoski8127]

Please do. Then we’ll be good again

[@916mw]

The Houston asterisks

[@jmiogo]

916mw ha! Nice one.

[@konradfitzgerald]

Banging on a trash can!

[@TiagodaSilvaSound]

Konrad Fitzgerald nice Doug reference

[@arturo762]

*Houston Assholes

[@peterhernandez7817]

Nice

[@ramificationz7431]

I can see a lot of trash can banging by fans when the astros hit the road next year🤣

[@Melody615199999]

and whistling

[@jesuschristthemosthighgod3094]

Ram Ificationz But the Rams lost 2 the Patriots 🤔🏈🏆

[@dontcopymystyle4469]

🤣🤣😩

[@peterhernandez7817]

Yup

[@gregbeard1744]

Lmao, holy shit its gonna be a riot when the season starts!

[@insearchofYAH]

You guys need to bring in jomboy. I mean you're watching him already!

[@darealnellyb4794]

Insearchof that was one batter in one inning out of 162 games that is actual decent evidence and honestly sounds fake so you can’t use that as evidence

[@bathingape1544]

Jomboy is a Yankee, you guys don’t need biased information. Plus his recents vids about the Astros are fake. He added a couple bang affects to the vids.

[@OgGwuap]

BathingApe theres other videos rather than Jomboy that have those “banging effects.” just suck it up and hold your ‘17 titile and claim your love for a bunch of cheaters 😂😂

[@waywardson4964]

Drippedout Boy You should watch JomBoys latest video. Not only did they find in a lot of the games, but they are using the audio files where a bang sound was registered at the exact points. The sounds files they are using are from the actual live game feed and you can find them yourself. JomBoy shows even more times and from the audio files they are using anyone can online and confirm for themselves. The astros title shouldnt even count anymore.

[@applejuicepie1]

@@bathingape1544 Do you realize what YES even stands for

[@grungyasscinema]

I can't wait until they make a movie about this.

[@erichuffman6665]

A ban would make sure it never happens again. Believe that.

[@bingevintage8124]

Eric Huffman not likely

[@fadedgalaxy625]

Well the players on the Astros that didn’t want this to happen what happens to them do they get a new contract? Or what?

[@carlosmatos9848]

No, teams will just try harder to find a fool proof method. The Astros thought they had just that.

[@johnnytd1128]

Yeah right

[@Andeezzyy24]

Eric Huffman I say striping the WS title away and for sure no one will do it again. That too tho is fair

[@ProspectNY11211]

If the Astros think the Yankee fans were disgraceful this year, wait until 2020.

[@richp7226]

New Yorkers a bunch of steroid takin bums

[@derekscarborough6136]

ProspectNY11211 still won’t win a ship

[@ian5804]

@@richp7226 That stereotype is basically just because of Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez, who were taking steroids before they joined the team. Also, imo having one player who can hit the balls slightly harder is cheating, but not as bad as the entire team knowing exactly what pitch is about to come and be ready for it.

[@mcb3167]

@@richp7226 que pena das

[@richp7226]

@@ian5804 😭

[@Bearsfan15654]

This is so Mets. They hired a guy who’s in the center of an investigation.

[@edwinmaldonado1701]

for starters when he was hired nothing had come out and being in an ivestigation does not imply you are guilty of anything.

[@teaghanfinks5083]

TheFallOfMan hahahahhahahaah

[@MuthafuckinPuddings]

Another successful Meting!!

[@xerxes443]

TheFallOfMan yo

[@Bearsfan15654]

Edwin Maldonado nothing got released to the public yet. I think people knew within baseball what was going on.

[@wajahatali1234]

I am sorry but Hinch needs to go man. There is NO way he did not know about all of this.

[@zacht9805]

Still not proven.

[@joka7316]

@@zacht9805 Sure all that banging ten feet away from him was what? Thunder?

[@zacht9805]

@@joka7316 Oh my god, everyone watching this is an idiot, you can steal signs without using electronics, it hasn't been proven that they were using a camera at all.

[@ryanl9224]

Zach T kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4fZn4B_l9BoibM bro Idk how much more proof you need. There are plenty of witnesses, the only ones who deny it are the Astros and their fans. Get real. They definitely cheated, it’s not controversial to say at this point, there’s a bunch of evidence pointing towards it

[@gilbertpresas]

nah you need to go

[@MrEljefe0000]

The whole roster was in on it all of them

[@teaghanfinks5083]

Especially if there is a monitor in the hallway of the dugout. Imagine trying to lie about not knowing when you all have access to a screen😂 . Chumps. Take the 2017 chip away. Fuck em

[@AMpufnstuf]

and that fucking midget was allowed to give a speech for barely beating the yankees while cheating every play for two or more years. absurd.

[@RollerCoastersWorldwide]

dubnstuf altuve actually hit better on the road lol

[@TheRealPunisher]

No wonder a lot of the astros hitters are so damn cocky all the time.

[@mickeymelendez1605]

Now I know why Astros look so confident

[@johnreed5242]

The Punisher never seen any astro cocky tbh that's like Harper

[@TheRealPunisher]

@@johnreed5242 u must be new.

[@TheRickestRick33]

John reed you must not pay attention to Bregman

[@seabass1997]

John reed Literally every single Astros player sits and stares at their home runs. I’m not saying I don’t like it but it’s definitely cockiness

[@mysterj1]

The MLB should vacate the 2017 WS title and ban Hinch for life. Fine the Astros $6 million and suspend international bonuses for 5 years. THAT will endure this doesn’t happen again. Just like the ban on the Black Sox.

[@chrism.1749]

Guiseppe's_Bass The Black Sox?

[@ryanl9224]

Electro Ball the white Sox World Series scandal of 1919. The entire thing is referred to now as the “Black Sox”

[@chrism.1749]

Ryan Leonarczyk The more ya know.

[@bluedevil8306]

If its true

[@chrism.1749]

Why do I get the feeling someone’s gonna say that 1919 event is racist?

[@dodger1214]

Suspend Hinch, Cora, and Beltran for an entire year. This is completely unacceptable. The Astros have acted like they are bigger than the game. Dodgers and Yankees fans have every right to be pissed off. People's lives on both teams have been impacted. Make an example out of these individuals so that the next time anyone tries this, the punishment will be very stiff if they get caught.

[@erichuffman6665]

Nah fuck a suspension! Fucking ban those disgraceful assholes!

[@michaelevans9418]

Hinch and Beltran should be banned from baseball. #freepeterose

[@theblackwolf8852]

He is right whan he said u can't punish the Mets and red Sox but the cheaters need to pay

[@phillipsouthard8285]

Ban every team that has ever cheated. Astros, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, every team. Ban them all, who cares about money...oh that’s right, the MLB does. No team is getting “banned” lol

[@brianchua4240]

I would agree that Cora and Bellinger be suspended for a year. But banned from baseball? I doubt Manfred would take it that far just because. I hope a SIGNIFICANT punishment would come down but I sadly doubt it. Prove me wrong Rob or enjoy an additional plummets in attendance.

[@imthezombieslayer]

Honestly if they were stealing signs for THREE YEARS knowing almost every pitch that was coming at home, in the playoffs, they should be banned for life. Sorry life has repercussions

[@alexnelson8]

Agreed.

[@dr.markevers8331]

How did they have a better road record in 2017? Were teams letting them set up their system on the road? I guess the system wasn’t all that effective.

[@imthezombieslayer]

Mark Evers if you look at their home/away splits in the playoffs of 2017 they have double the home runs and significantly better slugging ops etc. and they still a team with good players, just because they were bad at cheating doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be punished.

[@imthezombieslayer]

Mark Evers there’s pictures out there now with a monitor set up right inside the tunnel from the dugout right next to a garbage can. There’s no doubt they cheated so

[@Nino-bu1cx]

Also, the timing sucks because the MLB just had one of their best post seasons in a long long time product wise 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️😂😂😂

[@YodaPM999]

Hell yeah this year's playoffs were amazing

[@Tyyffgb.cvcxxxcc1245]

bad ass post season

[@JustAwesomee]

I mean at least it has people talking about baseball in the off season. Any publicity is good publicity

[@cactusleoni6675]

Least watched world series in years tho

[@speedygibbs3676]

Nah this postseason was pretty lame compared to 2016-2018.... Blue Jays & Rangers getting heated... 2017 WS... this year was lame smh

[@bcask61]

Slap an * on that WS title.

[@jameslisle7775]

Houston Asterisks

[@cjlawlor95]

Have sucked for 58 years. Keep it that way.

[@robertmaxwell6065]

strip the WS title from them

[@lukas9098]

We the public will always view them as cheaters now. Idk if baseball would go that far but i didn’t think they’d go so hard on Pete, so who knows.

[@lukas9098]

David McDonald delete their season right, Yeah I mean I guess you could do that.

[@fartbustersman5498]

Imagine cheating at your home stadium and then losing every home game in the 2019 World Series

[@kommahlah7813]

THE ASTROS ARE THE SPATTER FROM ONES ANUS during a heroic day long "PREP" for a COLONOSCOPY. In other words... their shit.

[@aumshanti9046]

Yeah and they won their road games.

[@YesYou-zy7kp]

I think the Nats knew the Astros would cheat so they changed their signs. I read they had 5 sets for each pitcher.

[@dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990]

The Yankees went and warned the nationals the nats changed there signs alot

[@krlm2280]

I remember ppl saying Beltran was stealing signs in game 7 of the world series makes sense now

[@Rmilly12]

Yeah but stealing is different than using a camera. Stealing is completely legal

[@vihaanle3010]

Chairicks yeah you’re right but I think he meant using the camera

[@Rmilly12]

Confused_Bot idk but MLB admitted that they only used it in the regular season so it couldn’t of been with the camera

[@sewerswan8422]

@@vihaanle3010 game 7 was in LA

[@edwinmaldonado1701]

Take that hearsay to court and good luck.

[@mattsumus]

What's being overlooked is the fact they had 2 top pitchers who were in the running for cy young awards. Dont you look past all the runs the guys were given when they were on the mound. Easy to say some of those wins were helped by sign stealing which effected the way Cole and Verlander throw ever 5 days.

[@fvr1646]

It’s so messed up.

[@dharmaram7527]

Yeah! Those two miraculously improved their era and overall consistency as soon as they become Astros. There was pine tar all over their fingers and you can see Jomboy call Cole out with footage. This whole Astros cheating scandal goes way deeper than betters getting signs from surveillance cameras.

[@Lordinfamous91]

Verlander never got any run support so try again

[@mattsumus]

@@Lordinfamous91 all u need is 1 more run than the other team buddy. That's a W

[@Lordinfamous91]

mattsumus clearly you never watch Verlander nor Cole’s starts

[@YodaPM999]

MLB needs to do SOMETHING. The Astros are probably not the only team doing something like this. If MLB gives them a harsh punishment, it will lower the chances of other teams cheating.

[@johnnytd1128]

MLB should retire Joe Tore, I love him but he shot his load, not able to make reputable decisions on the game

[@hoss011]

def has to be other teams out there doing it, I live in houston n love the stros but if the stros were cheating def should be punished... very very very harshly as others that are doing this same thing.

[@YodaPM999]

@Jesse Mac Found the Astros fan

[@richardeast3328]

@Jesse Mac Don't read much, do you.

[@IvanCllzo]

So you're telling me that in 2017 when I felt like the dodgers were gonna take it all, we lost because of cheating ? Action needs to be taken

[@jenloyd5880]

Action and punishment?? Because you had happy feelings towards your Dodgers?? Oh Grief.... They are investigating them now. We'll all find out soon enough what the call is.

[@trippy5519]

Jen Loyd Ok boomer

[@xLA625]

Makes you wonder about game 5

[@jenloyd5880]

@@trippy5519 fuck off.

[@IvanCllzo]

@@jenloyd5880 I was saying that the Dodgers were the favorites to win that year and up until they exposed the Astros, I thought we had lost fairly. No need to get in your feelings bud

[@aaronrudd9790]

“Is it fair to the Red Sox that Cora is suspended for 80 games??” No, bro... The Red Sox need to fire him if he’s involved. They don’t need to associate themselves with a cheater.

[@josecarranza7555]

Aaron Rudd And Boston is the king of cheaters.

[@TheSportsChatter]

Damn if Fiers didn’t snitch the Mets coulda had one helluva home field advantage 🤣🤣🤣

[@tomlehmann306]

MLB needs to bring the hammer down here. This totally takes away the integrity of the game.

[@ajanitor4981]

Tom Lehmann imagine an 8 man out thing happens

[@edwinmaldonado1701]

If and when accusations are proven beyond reasonable doubt. Cannot go on smearing teams and reputations just for the fun of it.

[@frankiec5570]

Edwin Maldonado I understand innocent until proven guilty but let’s be honest, everything said and written has been confirmed with the eye and ear test. When people with knowledge of the team say this is how it was done, then we can watch games and see the catcher put down a change up or curve sign immediately followed by banging noise, that’s all the proof we need. All this talk doesn’t just happen for no reason. They cheated. MLB will confirm this soon enough.

[@edwinmaldonado1701]

@@frankiec5570 The part that l can't swallow is how is it possible the players at the plate can hear so loud and clear the whistles and the banging when you have over 40 or more thousand fans cheering and screaming constantly especially in World Series games? Videos can be altered to add or remove be it sounds or images and i have seen the videos where you can clearly hear the bangs and they drown all the cheering and screaming. Sorry something is not right.

[@frankiec5570]

Edwin Maldonado an umpire can hear when somebody shouts something from a dugout. How can an ump hear something from a specific player with all that noise? It’s not as loud on field as people think. Hearing a whistle or a banging on the trash can is very easy

[@StephenMarkTurner]

Give them a hundred million reasons to think twice next time.

[@conormchugh2028]

Stephen Turner lmao I love that

[@ian5804]

And give them a year or two to let it sink in

[@thinkaboutthatok8129]

Take away all draft picks for 3 years

[@frankiec5570]

And disqualify then from 2017 World Series and Dodgers win by default and get rings 🤔

[@miahmo23]

I wish but the MLB max fine is 2 million. Definitely going to be big suspensions or even bans, which would be the most extreme.

[@michaelgarcia2399]

Cheaters never win with honor and respect from their opponents

[@rumalo]

astros won world series in 2017

[@nathanocampo6371]

Rumalo M probably undeserved

[@richp7226]

2017 proves different

[@htownrockets7084]

Already won in 2017 but nice try 😂

[@fadedgalaxy625]

I’m a dodger fan so I wanted Astros to win me being all butthurt but now I’m glad they lost 😂😂😂

[@davidreyes1336]

Their slogan in 2017 was "Earn it." Did they? 😞

[@jrrrrk]

All 3 managers are rivals of the Yankees, go figure

[@wsmokr]

All 3 were on a team that cheated,go figure.

[@wardog3217]

Fuck the Yankees all Yankees

[@michaelfreeman4382]

Beltran was on the Yankees staff this year!

[@wsmokr]

@@michaelfreeman4382 But was playing with the Asterisks when the cheating was happening.

[@jonathanrecinos5894]

J.R. you know all these stankees fans crying and acting like the victims here, yet Beltran played!! For the Yankees for a couple of years and was a big part in the Yankees front office lol STFU

[@YungJ]

I don’t think _anyone_ believes they only did it in 2017, and then just went back to playing fair after they finally got a ring. They’ve just found better ways to do it now.

[@vihaanle3010]

Yeah I mean if it worked for them then, why wouldn’t they do it know

[@dharmaram7527]

Yeah and the techniques to cheat was getting exported to other Teams with Cora and Beltran and who knows where else from that. This is bad for baseball.

[@df5295]

They probably have to change the way to do it every year since players come & go to other teams. For example, Fiers knows the old way but not the new way.

[@wardog3217]

Hope so

[@jesuschristthemosthighgod3094]

Josh Treviño Yeah it Worked so well they won the last 50 World Series ! Maybe the Yankees need 2 cheat also , They haven't won a World Series in like in 1 Million Years 😁🏆🏆🏆 ..

[@mayoluck]

Now we know why Nolan Ryan left the org.

[@robloxvids2233]

After getting his son a great job through nepotism, Nolan got pissed that Jim Crane gave his son a great job through nepotism.

[@mayoluck]

@@robloxvids2233 could be part of it, or could be he is jumping ship before the hammer is dropped. If Ryder stays then its bc of the kids. If Ryder bounces too, its the cheating. Ryder has already been reassigned out of the MLB affiliate. Also not fan of his or Houston but Ryder played the game at a high level an at least worked in the org for yrs before this promotion, Cranes kid did not he just starting out. It how bussiness works though and im sure Ryder passed someone up too but Nolan made him work bottom to top.

[@flaminredhead65]

TAKE THE TITLE AWAY!! I hated both the dodgers and the Yankees but both deserve it way more!!! #TheAstriks

[@chrism.1749]

Flamin RedHead Just make 2017 null and void

[@XxAnimeXDude]

Flamin RedHead not gonna happen

[@MikeOzmun]

*Asterisks*

[@rawkusrex]

@@XxAnimeXDude i dont think so either, but thats why the Houston Asterisks name exists.

[@darealnellyb4794]

You do know that this all allegations and the Yankees are known for being the biggest cheaters in mlb history and the dodgers also cheat to just not as much

[@michaelevans9418]

I want to see dozens of millions in fines. Also to see those kids get sent down be compensated.

[@andrewwilken9725]

Absolutely. This guys who got sent down can’t be lost in this.

[@Joetrout]

Anything else you wanna see???

[@loualbino5536]

How about some concrete evidence? I'm not an Astros fan but this is bull shit. Every one can steal sings but God forbid you do it by using tech? Gtfoh!

[@vintifada7115]

lou Albino That’s always been accepted as the line you can’t cross. You can change your signs and complicate your system. How are you supposed to defend against a camera pointed direct at the catchers crotch the whole game

[@genenile6737]

Master Youforia you can see the signs on the live broadcast clearly. Not sure the significance of a different angle when I can see the signs from my couch. Change the signs maybe?

[@dylanmorgan3504]

Yeah let's make it out to be about Cora and Beltran bc they're not with the teams anymore. The Astros as a whole team were cheating. Not just two scapegoats.

[@valenzuela5415]

Totally agree no respect for none of the Astros player's! All cheaters!

[@johnnytd1128]

Still I dont dismiss the fact that the Yankees were at a disadvantage for losing, who gives a shit if the Astros knew the signs, the Yankees SHOULD HAVE SPACKED THEM AROUND IN THIS SERIES

[@dylanmorgan3504]

@@johnnytd1128 but check how good NY was at home vs when they played in a stadium that they were watching there signals in the playoffs.

[@jesuschristthemosthighgod3094]

Dylan Morgan Maybe the Yankees need 2 cheat also ! They haven't won a World Series in like 1 Million Years 🤔🏆

[@dylanmorgan3504]

@@jesuschristthemosthighgod3094 nah let's not make baseball a game of all around cheating.

[@andrewanderson1777]

What if hypothetically, Cole was so excited about puting the Boras hat on because he saw the bullshit that was the Astros and wanted out, but didn't want to put a skid mark on his season? Makes a little more sense now

[@Rmilly12]

I think he wanted out because he was tired of being seen as number 2 to Verlander even though Cole is way better and he wanted big money that the Astros couldn’t provide. Plus if he goes to the Angels then it would be his childhood team

[@HereComesTheSmartAlec]

@@Rmilly12 Cole was a Yankees fan growing up.

[@andrewanderson1777]

@@Rmilly12 Cole grew up a Yankees fan so Angels aren't his childhood team. He could be getting tired of being a number 2 but with all the praise he gets, I'm having trouble feeling like it would be JUST that. There is more than meets the eye here to me.

[@trendroid2]

Million dollar fine, no picks no trades no contract renewal for a year, take the ws and 1 year suspensions

[@gilbertpresas]

@@ZacharyVlogs-vs3wk ahhh you ass hurt?

[@evanmoore6170]

ban hinch and cora for life. it wont happen ever again.

[@agentorange8530]

10 million at least, baseball gets a ton of money

[@bluedevil8306]

If its true

[@jaydeleon695]

Evan Moore that would probably be too far but will certainly set an example. Heck let the Astros pay for every teams’ payroll 😂😂😂

[@tberd906]

Every single Astro player walked by that tv in the dugout hallway! Every single win in 2017 should be negated and the championship wins stripped including work series. Fans near that dugout should have figured it out.

[@danejurus69]

The Houston Asteriks. Lol

[@j.tetlow4323]

The dude on the left is literally George Lucas

[@gojiragunplagramps936]

As a lifelong Astros fan, this breaks my heart. If the allegations are true, I’m done with baseball. I grew up going to the astrodome. Years of heartache. Nearly going to the big show. I cried when the Astros won in 2017. I feel like crying now.

[@ericvader5803]

I can understand this. Being a life long CUBS fan if anyone had proof they cheated in 2016 i think it would kill me.

[@dr.markevers8331]

Overall Split W L RS RA W-L% Overall 101 61 896 700 .623 Home/Road Split W L RS RA W-L% Home 48 33 395 327 .593 Road 53 28 501 373 .654 Perhaps stealing signs electronically wasn’t all that effective.

[@archstevej]

I feel bad for Kershaw, and especially Yu Darvish. Darvish might still be in LA. 😭

[@gregbeard1744]

@@dr.markevers8331 if that's accurate, that's pretty interesting

[@michaelpapini1434]

Yankees should have won in 2017....

[@spitfiye]

AJ Hinch absolutely needs to be banned from baseball, and I'd go a step further and say anyone who was involved including players should be banned. Enough is enough of this shit, if baseball wants to claim it's a game of integrity, then it's time to put its money where it's mouth is.

[@johnpestano22]

if this is true then MLB needs to vacate my Stros WS title in 17 it's disgraceful. the Astros had no business doing this. we are a good team already ppl reputation and integrity are on the line.

[@victorr1399]

Of course it's true man. U can hear banging and whistles in a bunch of videos. Its sucks for baseball.

[@HoopsRaccoon]

How are you a pistons and Astros fan? Just curious, did you follow verlander?

[@johnpestano22]

@@HoopsRaccoon i wonder how many of you so called fans question someone about the teams they like. next minute you're saying i'm a bandwagon fan right typical. excuse me i'm free to like any team. just bc i'm from NY that doesn't obligate me to like all NY teams that would be stupid.

[@johnpestano22]

@Kirk Grimm what?

[@xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx]

@@johnpestano22 I don't think he was coming at you about your fandom bro, it seemed like a legitimate question about how you became a fan of teams from such different locations? Why you gotta go off like that?? Just answer the damn question, lol. No one was saying your opinion was any less valid, it was just a random question. And yeah, usually people from New York only like New York teams...That's kinda the fucking point mate

[@bigcryptid448]

Worst part about baseball being postponed is not watching the Astros players get hit by pitches

[@guccimanlips]

Has this gotten a name yet? Astrogate, signgate, monitorgate? lol

[@reynemanzano]

guccimanlips I like monitorgate

[@superninja252]

AstroGate

[@Zola9494]

It's called Cameragate I believe

[@bravom80]

It’s called garbagegate

[@mbendero]

Bangbangate

[@XxOmegaslayerxX]

Just Have the commissioner forfeit the astros 2020 season

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

XxOmegaslayerxX that’s stupid you can’t just ban a whole team for one year how’s that fair to the players that didn’t cheat it’s not realistic at all

[@XxOmegaslayerxX]

Kuruma Uzamaki true but it’ll be a great example to make of them. Even if other players didn’t cheat they were apart of the team and if they had knowledge of them cheating they should forfeit period!

[@jesuschristthemosthighgod3094]

XxOmegaslayerxX The Yankees would love that! They haven't won a World Series in like 1 Million Years 🤔🏆

[@XxOmegaslayerxX]

JESUS CHRIST THE MOST HIGH GOD I love your username. The Yankees will win eventually though I say they win it all next year.

[@thehottestbeatz]

This is really bad... like really really bad. I’m just sad it came out two years later

[@Cashiz88]

I made a comment on KZbin yesterday and I swear every Astros fan chimed in saying something like this "did they cheat in the final though, no that's why it took 7 games". They still cheated and an * will be beside their wikipedia entry forever.

[@joeg5414]

I've noticed they all try to argue that Houston wouldn't have won on the road if this was true. Stupidest argument ever.

[@vintifada7115]

I saw a compilation of many instances of cheating and it included the ALCS and WS

[@leoacevedo7125]

Have 2/3 of the season for the astros be played on the road. 108 away games and 54 home games.

[@jenloyd5880]

They were actually better on the road so, I'm sure they would happily go for that punishment.

[@thomasjefferson2813]

Here are what the possible punishments should be: S tier: World Series title stripped, banned from trades and playoffs for a season A tier: World series title removed, millions in fines, Hinch, Cora, Beltran suspended B tier: asterisks, Altuve loses MVP, Hinch suspended full year C tier: asterisks, Bregman, Altuve, Correa, Springer, suspended 25-40 games each D tier: asterisks F tier: warning, small fines. MLB must do something.

[@dave-cd7jd]

world series title will never be stripped.

[@Hiker63]

I wonder if the guys on the Astros placed bets on wins. The first person I’d investigate is that loud mouth Bregman.

[@chasep86]

Roaming Gnome Good call Bregman is a prick seems like

[@johnnytd1128]

It's not impossible, but very risky and stupid with the amount of money the players are receiving

[@johnwray393]

Bergman got signed last offseason for like 170 mil or something. He's not making 500k a year.

[@Rmilly12]

Roaming Gnome it’s because he’s still under arbitration. Soto still is. Springer still is. Flaherty still is. Acuña still is. Players don’t bet for this. They bet because they r able to make big bucks but they aren’t. Since none of these people can make that money yet, they wouldn’t bet

[@TheCreepedPig]

@@Rmilly12 Bregman got extended. He no longer is in arbitration

[@danlivni2097]

Beltran and Cora needs to be suspended for a year.

[@MHFrEsH]

That's it a year.?? How about for life?

[@maxnut]

Rip to the mets

[@jessewfowler]

If Cora’s one of the “masterminds” behind this, they MLB better look into whether Boston’s cheating somehow, too.

[@bleedconcrete7753]

Jesse Fowler how you think they beat the Astros in 2018?

[@Regulus3333]

They should all be banned for life and the World Series stripped

[@MrChristopherWeaver]

Yes the three should be banned for life and the Dodgers should be handed the series title

[@BlueSparks25]

2017 WS title? Mlb should #takeitback!

[@jesuschristthemosthighgod3094]

Mike Romero Nah ! The Yankees haven't won a World Series in like 1 Million Years! Maybe the Yankees need 2 cheat also like the Patriots , Bounty Gate Saints 🤔🏆🏆

[@PhysiqueFuel]

Mike Romero All this because of some disgruntled rat? You’re looking too much into this

[@stephendre2902]

Mike Romero Always the Dodger fan wanting one even though there has been no proof Astro’s cheated in the WS.

[@michaellittlewood3032]

Dodgers are 2017 Champions!

[@Person-ig6yv]

Stephen Dre the dodgers wouldn’t have the title either, there would just be no winners of 2017

[@Dan-od6zx]

I was getting really tired of the egos and attitudes in the MLB. Now this. I am done with the MLB. Maybe I will watch again someday when they go back to playing pure baseball.

[@rf7814]

Ok boomer.

[@ShimonFrankel]

Me too. I'm done with MLB until at least spring training

[@stormcrow7878]

Lol, "go back to playing pure baseball". So, the 1870's then?

[@Dan-od6zx]

@@rf7814 Lol. Ok soy boy.

[@elchancho8432]

It’s sad but I bet a lot more teams than we think are doing this

[@kevjmu]

As a Nationals fan I am so happy we beat Astros aka “cheaters”🙏🙏👍

[@markgonzalez8828]

I was there for the last game. I walked out after that howie bomb. No hate on the nationals. Happy they beat the astros too. Was rooting for y’all

[@nsnkungfu2108]

Same

[@blackedmirror5073]

Thanks, the TB Rays

[@aumshanti9046]

Did the Astros cheat when the Nats lost 2 games at home?

[@Bmybuddy69]

@@aumshanti9046 exactly!! Makes you go hmm....🤔

[@Knarf14]

Wow , as a yankee fan ive lost all respect for astros organization

[@orona3081]

Astros suck!

[@luisdelamora2269]

Pretty sure the rest of the baseball world has lost all respect for yankees organization.

[@Mark-cc5bv]

Luis De La Mora yeah how? Bc of dumbass arod who wasn’t a true yankee anyway. Other than that it’s been nothing but championship class. You sound salty sir hahha

[@Knarf14]

Nah just bitter fans , ask any ball player and they will say they want to be a yankee, cant help it if thats where the money is

[@gilbertpresas]

and as baseball fan, yankees never had respect

[@slotmachines7878]

$25million fine, 5 years of draft picks, no international signings.

[@tyrekejenkins726]

Slot Machines 25 million? Make it $100 million.

[@nytugboattrash]

@slot machines add Coaches and management that endorsed this should be banned for life. Any player who did this should be suspended for a year.

[@michaellittlewood3032]

Take their championship away.

[@connorendres4544]

Michael Littlewood nah it’s like 3 players that used it and it wasn’t even in the postseason

[@genernator]

YES!!! Anything less than that is a weak and ineffective response. This is Black Sox Scandal 2.

[@shawnsutton3073]

Ok. Take yall last 3 then.

[@Rmilly12]

Eugene Grubbs no it was only a few players using it regularly and they didn’t even use it in the postseason. Plus u can’t take a championship away because you don’t know if the dodgers would’ve won or if another AL team would’ve won

[@Rmilly12]

Lennon Mccartney MLB themselves literally said they didn’t. So you’re delusional

[@toddw6716]

Ban those that set it up for life! I see this as worse than what Rose did.

[@austentx9102]

Are you serious? How?

[@danejurus69]

It IS worse than what Rose did. Rose gambled. He never, ever cheated.

[@johnnytd1128]

Amen

[@johnnytd1128]

@@danejurus69 yeah I know,, and yet these Mother F-------- are looked upon as doing nothing wrong, BELIEVE ME , nothing will happen to them because AJ Hinch is a white liberal and Cora with Beltran are minorities, they'll get a pass or at least overlooked as not important to follow up

[@danejurus69]

@@johnnytd1128 Their punishment or lack thereof, will have nothing to do with their politics or race. Just stop. Don't even go there. 👎

[@ssshhclos405]

Commissioner it’s time to Off Your Butt, and take care of this scandal. Quit worrying about expanding the game overseas. Players career and legacy are damaged. It’s time set some examples for all other sports

[@chasep86]

Everyone talking about Yankees in 17 and 19. Tampa Bay crushed Hou in TB in the ALDS until Gm 5 when Glasnow had no chance vs the camera.

[@JNALOPEZ209]

Chase Orton good point

[@AcaciaTreeTV]

Now I’m curious to see how people in stadiums will react when the Astros come to the plate for the first time in next years season

[@jenloyd5880]

They will get treated just like the Yankees do. The two most hated teams EVER. LOL

[@jenloyd5880]

@What Not To Do At a Stoplight I didn't say anything about Yankee fans....DUMB ASS. Learn to read

[@jenloyd5880]

@What Not To Do At a Stoplight and that's exactly what I mean. Doesn't matter why they are hated....they just are. So, now it's the 2 most hated teams......was my point

[@jenloyd5880]

@What Not To Do At a Stoplight I say, let them merge and form a super team and really piss people off! LOL

[@firefalcoln]

IMO they do need to take away their 2017 World Series title as well. They took away Reggie Bush’s Heismann Trophy. I also think that all the players who can be confirmed to have been involved in the cheating should get fined half of their salary over the time period they were cheating and suspended. And then there’s the penalties to the organization and the couches orchestrating the cheating.

[@Alexandermb9590]

If this all pans out to be 100% true, Manfred needs to do what he has to do to pretect the integrity of the game. Bottom line. Big moment here for him.

[@adamfitzgerald911]

Punishment? Makes Joe Buck the Astros play by play TV announcer for 5 years.

[@rickyriojasjr5223]

Fuuukkk nooooooo🤣😂

[@johnburnett5377]

One season ban? Lifetime bans for every one of the bums.

[@j29maniac]

John Burnett I agree. Every player involved, every coach, lifetime bans. This is as bad as what Pete Rose did. If they don’t get lifetime bans, MLB should lift Pete’s.

[@EdwardRodriguez26]

Send the Astros back to the National League. lol.

[@jeremydesrochers5199]

dont do that!! The N.L plays real baseball...no d.h

[@alexnelson8]

Please do!

[@danielvargas4498]

Don't think they will be welcomed, how about making them a AAA Team.

[@EdwardRodriguez26]

Daniel Vargas ohhh. That’s a great idea!

[@brittonthompson4869]

I agree

[@robbiegarnz7732]

Fine the guilty parties who are no longer with the Astros. Suspend Hinch for 81 games.

[@evanmoore6170]

81 is nothing... ban him for life. if you want to stop it from happening ever again.

[@ct53222]

Robbie Garnz I agree with you

[@shirleebostrom7230]

Give the 2017 World Series Title to THE DODGERS! DO THE RIGHT THING MLB!

[@angelgirl7321]

Take their ring away and replay the 2017 world series between the dodgers and yankees

[@kadensiska5882]

angel girl not gonna happen bud

[@bladimirtaveras93]

Lmfaoooooo

[@angelgirl7321]

@@kadensiska5882 It's going to happen . Houston is done.

[@darbyochill]

Lol girls don’t understand 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@saryn1829]

This seems too good to be true as a yankee fan I’m waiting for the Yankees to be thrown into this somehow

[@mickeymelendez1605]

Now I know why the Astros look so confident

[@anthonyalvarado7288]

Astros need to be made a example out of

[@mwmw5895]

Wonder how justin Verlander felt about this. He was very vocal about the "juiced balls" knowing damn well his guys were cheating the whole time

[@aj60nyy]

It's unfortunate for some of the Astros players to be involved with this, since it's unknown which ones were against it. As a team, they're all guilty.

[@johnnunez8432]

Does this mean that the Red Sox and Mets investigate their managers?

[@Trish0871]

John Nunez Alex Cora?? Hmmmm....the Red Sox won last season. Maybe they should be investigated too.

[@nathanhansen1846]

1.Suspension of those who were involved 2. Fine of $250,000 3. Loss of all draft picks in 2020 4. Suspension of 100 games for active players and suspension for full year for managers or front office members

[@FrogOf4Chan]

Been a Red Sox fan my whole life and seeing Cora potentially linked to this cheating scandal makes me sad, if you can't win the right way DON'T play the game! Cheaters are cheaters and there's no place for them in any sport.

[@elmonano7815]

I'd like to see a comparison of their home/away batting statistics to see how much it helped.

[@dustingreen4257]

Actually that’s the thing they were better on the road.

[@glennevans5824]

Hinch should be banned from baseball...a manager...please

[@vermontmike9800]

Can they do what happens in college athletics? Make the astros ineligible for the playoffs for the 2020 year?

[@carolchristiansen8844]

If this is proven . The Astros will always be a tarnished team. And maybe it was a karma that they lost the World Series.

[@williammiller4653]

Are we going to get comparisons for all teams between Minute Maid Park and all the others?

[@Talkinsports91]

I heard the Astros congratulated bellinger & trout for thier MVP's yesterday . . . Almost like they knew what was coming or something

[@victorbautista2153]

Jesse Garcia-saenz source ?

[@leoacevedo7125]

Yeah... source

[@bobbydyne]

Beltran at his Mets manager interview: I got this great idea to get the Mets raking this year Mets GM: Lets hear it Beltran: First, we need a trash can right behind the dugout...

[@heysiri7767]

JAJAJAJA

[@gospos1]

God Bless The Washington Nationals!!

[@philly_sports1558]

As a Phillies fan, amen to that.

[@vaughnmild4467]

God bless Danny Farquar!

[@gospos1]

Vaughn Mild ...that too!

[@Sokeresa]

There is so much time till the beginning of the season, the Mets always can hire new manager, and get rid of Beltran now! Fiers did his communication through the years after dumped from Astros internally with his new team. Why no one took action behind closed doors and handled their business with minimal embarrassment!!! He waited two years till he got fed up. Remember not every one cheated, some batters from Astros were offered the cheat and they refused

[@philipjames751]

Yu Darvish I’m sorry for everything I said regarding my Dodgers in the 2017 WS.

[@PhrogyO]

He still pitched his pitches lol

[@stephens.6226]

@@PhrogyO I mean I don't see how you can pitch without pitching (yes I know this was a misspell)

[@markdavis1166]

Remember astros didn’t have home field advantage and won game 7 in LA.

[@fvr1646]

As a Giants fan, I agree with you.

[@darealnellyb4794]

I mean he tipped his pitches and also they apparently didn’t cheat in the playoffs and they also only did at home not in LA you can feel bad but he still messed up

[@b-rev9022]

I say take away ALL of Houston's draft picks and suspend Hinch, Cora, and Beltran for the year.

[@juliotzocjr40]

Bro they not going to do anything. And the Astros still going to be good either way

[@jacobd896]

I like the show and this is coming from a Boston sports fan. You guys do good work on dissecting the issue. Cheers🍻

[@SteveBotello]

I believe the max fine is $2M which the Astros should get. I think Cora should get 2 years, Beltran should get 2 years and Hinch should be banned for life if found guilty. I am disgusted that this happened. Sad Bad day for Baseball. Astros should not be able to participate in 3 1st round picks and not participate in Free-Agency. I know it sounds harsh but if they did this, I think it's fair. Sad Sad situation. Anyone else involved should get suspended for 2 years also.

[@TheSymbiot3Venom]

2 mill big fucking deal chump change for theses people

[@luiscavazos4762]

Besides the word of one player, is there any proof? Last time I checked you have to have some type of physical proof to punish the Astros.

[@evanmoore6170]

Hinch and Cora if this Is true should be barred from managing a mlb team for life..

[@notsafeforwork6389]

Beltran, too... I liked him as a player but if this guy did that? It's worse than Pete Rose gambling.

[@evanmoore6170]

@@notsafeforwork6389 for sure just the fact that he was a player makes it a bit different but he deserves whatever comes his way.

[@jeremyabreu8512]

They should ban Cora , Beltran and hinch from baseball and anybody involved , Pete Rose is still banned and this is just as bad as what he did if not worse

[@SlipStreamTV]

Somehow someway Tom Brady will be suspended for this

[@bombpop2461]

Every single batter knew Mariano Rivera was about to throw the cutter and they still couldn't hit it. 😎

[@isaaclara2373]

Astros fan have left the chat

[@GildedShame]

I feel comfortable saying the Dodgers got robbed in 2017. Especially in such a close series.