Top 10 Raid Bosses You Feel Bad About Killing (World of Warcraft)

[@jamesharker2033]

I'd like to nominate Sindragosa as an honorable mention. She was broken, blind, and dying when she landed in Icecrown. She called out to Malygos and her dragon flight to help her reach the dragon shire before she died, but nobody answered. She passed alone, abandoned, and angry and when she was resurrected it fueled her hatred. BUT. When you kill her, the dying words are "Free ... at last." Always gets me.

[@riktorGaming]

SUFFER MORTALS!!!!!

[@SIII021]

And Malygos. we killed him because he was confused and misguided. So sad

[@chrys_stone8716]

"Your magic betrays you"? Someone fix this quote for me lol I haven't played wow in years

[@martinbenes3317]

@@chrys_stone8716 www.wowhead.com/sound=17014/ic-sindragosa-arcane01

[@nielsdegroot2997]

Malygos too imo. Lost almost all his flight (=family) trying to stop Deathwing 10.000 years ago. Lost to grief ever since... Pretty much everything that is just corrupted by evil against their will. Multiple bosses in Emerald Nightmare come to mind, as well as Tsulong in Terrace of Endless Springs and Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau. Maybe even the Blackrock Foundry version of Gruul or Trilliax in the Nighthold. Ra-den in Ny'alotha, although that fight came out waay after this video and you comment.

[@saranoxxis]

Jesus Christ, I had no clue Archavon's story was this sad ;_;

[@jackster006]

Yeah, back then ... I was too busy fighting the alliance to care or figure out the lore... :(

[@darwinxavier3516]

I click on everything and read everything at least once, including all the books scattered around the world. Though I don't think I noticed his journal until the last boss was added. In fact, I think the journal wasn't even there until late in the xpac. But yeah, it was a tragic story.

[@shalax7881]

Nazgrim has joined the Ebon Blade. While they are questionable, he has his second life. If you wish him to be around, just make a DK

[@DrKlinkist]

Really? In the story he stole the horde and alliance's ''toys'' and was never killed. He just didnt understand why he was being attacked and having the ''toys'' taken away from him (that he took).

[@thecoolerdaniel9514]

Archavon at the "present" day basically just stays there at his Halls "watching" them while some hordies and allies have the occasional fight with him for his goodies, he doesn't seem to be very perturbed about it, he's only curious as for why the aggression, otherwise i'm pretty sure he'd be quite peaceful.

[@joejojo5966]

and now Saurfang rests with his family.

[@mithzelthesnitzel8595]

:(

[@DevilcakeLive]

isn't his son in the same hell syl saw tho due to being rezzed by the lk?

[@DevilcakeLive]

@Zygy __ but is he? im not sure

[@dakotablust1814]

Uhhhh... Nope. Don't think so. I think he is in maldraxxas, not the maw.

[@DevilcakeLive]

@@dakotablust1814 oh ya i forgot i asked this. That would make sense with the reveal of shadowlands. I do hope we get to see him

[@CaptainMcNoob]

I felt so bad for Nazgrim. I loved when, as the Horde, he was glad it was you, his comrade and a warrior he respected, that was the one that finished him and freed him from a duty he knew was wrong. It was touching.

[@chrissanchez9553]

Illidan never promised to cure Kael’s addiction to magic. He said “there is no cure young one, but there are ways to feed the hunger”

[@Nikaro23]

This is Hiru. He’s extremely biased towards the horde. So much so that he’s gonna shit on anything remotely associated with thr alliance. You just gotta take his videos with a grain of salt.

[@teamdukki1629]

@@Nikaro23what makes u think he’s biased?

[@Nikaro23]

@@teamdukki1629 Because if you watch his videos he is very obviously biased towards the horde? The only time he will admit an alliance character has done anything good is if it's irrefutably obvious, or if he does so begrudgingly while still trying to comment how the good they did has just as much bad behind it.

[@teamdukki1629]

oooh okay@@Nikaro23

[@sukunafingerconsumer]

I honestly teared up at the Archavon one, I have no idea why The way he talked about what he wrote in his journal just makes me feel awful that he was killed ;-;

[@lordmazdamundi2847]

Actually, we don't kill him since he says that we stole is valuables, it's more like we defeated him, take loot, and he waked up again tryin to get some new valuables until another group come to take them from him.

[@megamanmax1]

@@lordmazdamundi2847 Actually this is confirmed in his journals, he even talks about playing dead and then setting everything back up for the next group

[@lordmazdamundi2847]

@@megamanmax1 My poor Archavon. That man deserve so much better.

[@Ianbrad65]

What about Thaddius? The combined souls and bodies sewn together of women and children; constantly calling out for help during the raid, it's death quote is even "Thank you.."

[@markmikolay9019]

Well you don't really feel bad about killing it. You are doing those people a great service by freeing them.

[@Ianbrad65]

Márk Mikolay okay.. we're doing a favor for nearly a quarter of the bosses on this list. Argus, Atremedas, Vaelstrasz

[@markmikolay9019]

Skip Bail Yeah fair enough

[@konecnyjackson08]

Márk Mikolay I feel bad killing him, because that should have never been their fate.

[@chan_estelle]

I thought Thaddius would be on the list, I’ve always felt bad for killing him. I mean yeah, he needs to die, but his whole backstory is so sad.

[@Grimfang999]

While a strange choice, I always feel sad about killing Operator Thogar in blackrock foundary. Why? Because he did nothing wrong. All the others are kinda jerks at the very least. Thogar? He conducts trains, he loves his job, and is so committed to his job that even while fighting most of his "attacks" are literally just him multitasking, doing his job while you all bear him up. It just seems like in any other situation... he would be a really cool guy. He loves his job, commits to it fully, and seems jovial about it even in the midsts of combat.

[@dima10656]

grimfang999 you are completely right. But, I think from our perspective it would be wise to get rid of a person who manages the delivery of all resources for Blackhand’s Iron Horde, to weaken their army.

[@dima10656]

grimfang999 you are completely right. But, I think from our perspective it would be wise to get rid of a person who manages the delivery of all resources for Blackhand’s Iron Horde, to weaken their army.

[@nielsdegroot2997]

I feel worse for Gruul in BRF. The Dungeon Journal reads; "Garrosh knew that the surest path to breaking the gronn lay in subjugating their great father, Gruul. Known in another time as the Dragonkiller, here Gruul has been reduced to the role of menial laborer. In a cruel mockery of the Shattered Hand's warrior tradition, his hand has been replaced with a hook to enable him to more easily haul pallets of fuel to the furnace."

[@MangaManifaction]

The Saurfang fight end part was really good from the Alliance side, giving more character to Varian

[@TheShaofThirst]

As far as dungeon bosses go...Keristraza always got me. She was kidnapped by Malygos, tortured, and forced to be his consort before you have to go in and kill her. She even begs you to finish her when her health gets low and asks Alexstraza to preserve her when she dies. She was always the hardest dungeon boss for me to kill while leveling through WotLK

[@hirumaredx]

Special Thanks to Captain Grim for doing that Saurfang machinima before the number 1 spot. I originally asked him to make a quick little 10 second thing and he went all out! He also does a lot of editing for Krucials channel so I might have stole a little bit of his time for this video

[@MajorVomo]

That Grim guy is the best!

[@Zelryn.]

Good ol’ Cpt. Grim

[@SirThompshire]

Ah... what a man he is

[@cowdoom]

Does he use illegal severs is the real question?

[@katsarelas1947]

Cowdoom they don’t use the in-game system to do it lol

[@yeneyizations2932]

Should of shown the alliance side to saurfang. Varian at the time was a die hard horde hating machine, but had so much respect towards saurfang that he let him take his son's body and leave.

[@saucyseph3783]

Being a horde destroying monster myself, even I respect saurfang. to be honest, he is one of my favorite wow characters. I can't wait to see what he will do in BFA.

[@Terenin]

Come now. He will do in BfA what the Horde always does: Pillage, burn, murder and destroy. Blizzard try their best to smooth over this and make the Horde likable enough for players to play, but at the end of the day, NOTHING has changed for the Horde since the day they stormed the Draenei lands and massacred any man, woman or child they found for their own debased desires. They chose the demon-loyal path, and even freed from it, continue on their path to kill anyone and everyone that will not stand with them.

[@emanuelkaramatic904]

Well well. That's pretty one sided hypocrtic point of view

[@teddypeterson9807]

Terenin you sir represent everything wrong with the alliance. So called good guys to make em likeable

[@Terenin]

Is the history of the Horde not an endless series of events where someone's land get pillaged, burned and destroyed, and the people murdered? Am I *WRONG* about that? Do the Horde *NOT* continue doing this long after the demonic influence - THAT THEY CHOSE TO TAKE PART IN - was no longer a factor? And if not, do explain how it's one-sided and hypocritical to point this out, and something that makes me a 'wrong' part of the Alliance - the very organization that was made for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of stopping the Horde? If you have nothing to counter my position with, you should not be making noises to that effect.

[@Skollshorties]

Out of all the bosses I feel bad for. Archavon & Nazgrim... Feels bad man. Grim did an amazing job holy gods on that cinematic.

[@Iqbalx1]

Skoll Shorties at least nazgrim get resurrected as a dk

[@Nerazmus]

Even to this day, whenever I do SoG, I equip low-level gear to have a proper fight with him.

[@bigmanmark4334]

I cant even take myself to run it I still haven't even got the achv for it

[@Pacster15]

Love you skoll

[@Skollshorties]

Love you too friend.

[@gamesux420]

I like the mantid dynamic with them telling you that theyre basically gonna be your enemies if the old gods return. Its like the epitome of honor, like soldiers realizing that theyre not so different from one another. But they still fight, because thats just how it is. They didnt kill each other because of hate, but because its the thing they have to do, and when they died they didnt feel hate towards the other side because they knew that that was the thing the others had to do. aka. theyre real ones, godspeed.

[@SomeOneButNoOne1]

Even when he kills other players he'll say: *the caption* :"wtf are the healers doing, you literaly cannot run out of mana" ahahahahahah made my day!!!

[@Seus-s]

Who?

[@lordmazdamundi2847]

@J Ygb On the Illidan Chain quest where you see his death through his eyes. You have to play him and face a raid of people who represents us, the player. And the reaction of the people dyin or the gnome who wants Illidan's blades are pretty fun.

[@DarkbloomTV]

Kael'thas deserved better than the morning cartoon villain treatment in TBC

[@xagreemenx]

so true...

[@RunehearthCL]

TBC was a mistake lorewise Well maybe Blizzard didn't think about WoW being this long

[@Traumglanz]

He did get better, the quest chain leading to uncover the events and his down fall are actually quite good and interesting. He basically is just a junkie and he dies exactly that way as well. Dead junkies are always a tragedy.

[@perun3706]

only tolkien did elves right....warhammer and warcraft turned them into sex toys for frustrated children those in warhammer are explicit too..

[@glanni]

@@coomercommander2554 yo take your hate and stick it up your ass

[@brandonboss6868]

The paragons got me the most, it was like having to murder a whole family of yours.

[@PoutineProductions]

Kovok ):

[@deciduous_reaper]

Even the pet ;-;

[@honey18181]

goddamn, me too :( its the worst feeling

[@troodon1096]

I had a certain amount of respect for them, but I never really trusted them, and they gave me good reason not to with their own words. I tried not to get too attached. It was really uncomfortable after grinding rep with them for them to basically say they're standing by the Old Gods and will try to wipe everyone out when they feel the time is right. Um... yeah, let me buy that faction mount and gear then I'm going to have to stop coming over here anymore. They were nice enough to warn me though. Felt a lot worse about General Nazgrim though especially since I quested with him many times in Pandaria. As Saurfang said, hope that you never have to be in the position to have to choose between honor and loyalty.

[@UrbanBeauty166]

Am I the only one who feels bad killing Arthas? His whole story is tragic, he wanted to save his land so badly he became consumed in his quest to do so and lost himself. 😔

[@OhNoTheFace]

Maybe if he had not killed thousands doing that

[@RaelagDidEverythingRight]

During WoTLK it's not Arthas, but Lich King, Arthas was killed inside Lich Kings mind, or rather his Soul was killed or something, there was a chapter about it in the Arthas book

[@UrbanBeauty166]

@@RaelagDidEverythingRight Arthas was still in there somewhere, seeing that he kept Jaina's in his memory and also upon death asking his father if it is over.

[@UrbanBeauty166]

@@OhNoTheFace True

[@RaelagDidEverythingRight]

@@UrbanBeauty166 Maybe it was overwritten in the book idk

[@ChristianMarston]

I felt really sad killing Rastakhan, he sacrificed so much trying to defend his kingdom

[@dabestorkposta]

Im gonna hate that

[@troodon1096]

Well he's not a raid boss but yeah, honestly don't think he deserved to die for no worse crime than choosing the wrong side.

[@laylachristina5605]

@@troodon1096 there's no wrong side or right side, there's only AH farming wise people and fuckers who watch Dala GG videos for a day and broke the economy for weeks.

[@joehopper7373]

@@troodon1096 He's not a raid boss? Battle for Dazar'Alor has Rastakhan as a raid boss.

[@Plasmacat1]

He was a bigot and an asshole though fuck him

[@MrFantocan]

Kael is the most screwd character in WOW, and you put him in last? He even turns a Crack Elf in the Sunwell. He was awesome in W3 but WoW has a thing for screwing good storylines.

[@glanni]

Kael'thas is my darling and i miss him :(

[@glanni]

maybe he was only on place 10 because everyone is used to him being "bad" at this point. i on the contrary am not known to get over things like these very easily. i am still mourning af

[@GbrBy]

It’s because of the mount he drops

[@badrinath5306]

Hahaha it messes up every storyline even the bad ones somehow.

[@DrPluton]

I didn't play a Horde character in TBC, but I imagine it would have come as quite a shock for new blood elf characters who heard everybody verbally praising Kael'thas to reach Outland and find out they would have to fight their prince.

[@dansharpe2364]

Baubles! Archavon says "baubles" not "valuables"!

[@LHDmaster]

I think he's just pronouncing it "bal-uables" instead of "baw-bles"

[@Hurtydwarf]

No, hes saying valuables. Hiru has admitted on many occasions that his reading and spelling arent the best. Its kind of a running thing that we just accept it.

[@dansharpe2364]

OK, cheers dude

[@Lowkey-NoPressure]

Either way that would still be super wrong

[@ArkBlanc]

Baubles and valuables mean basically the same thing.

[@sirflimflam]

I had killed Archavon probably 20 times before I found that journal of his... I really did feel pretty guilty. It's an interesting testament about what we considered "okay" or even "good" when we let available game mechanics dictate your actions. We see a boss with loot and come up with a reason why it has to be a bad guy, because surely you wouldn't be killing this thing only to steal from it. I mean look at those skulls on his boots!

[@mdb45424]

by how the archive is written it is cannon that he revives after he is killed only to be killed again a little time after that is the truly sad thing.

[@patteri90]

I killed Archavon tens of times before noticing the journal. The journal made me feel like an asshole for certain.

[@iamtj111]

sirflimflam why would we feel bad for killing him if he just comes back.

[@PoutineProductions]

Aw I wish I could just go up to him and chat with him for a little bit. Keep him some company. Poor thing.

[@thecoolerdaniel9514]

By reading the journal you can see that "dying" for him is the norm, for him they're only taking his toys and not hurting him in any major way.

[@charlesc4511]

BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEO: NAZGRIM As a player who played both horde and alliance, killing him broke my heart... *twice*

[@sarazan2586]

And after few months later, they killed Admiral Taylor too.

[@xagreemenx]

Nazgrim was also the first on my mind :(

[@SirBuljo]

Nazgrim came.. a loong way from grizzly hills.. i freakin loved Nazgrim and Taylors rivalry... i was so god damn sad to see it go and i bet Taylor was too.. despite being enemies they had the utmost respect for eachother. And personally being an orc warrior.. facing him, fighting him. it hit me right in the feels. I dare say if Saurfang had a good fan or student even if not official.. Nazgrim was that. I only wish to bring Nazgrim to peace once again.. He does not deserve to be desecrated this much, turned into a death knight...

[@pharahgaming400]

Yes

[@rbibr]

and now he's a death knight. A good touch from blizzard.

[@ShyShaymini]

I would've like you to mention the sight of an alliance player with Saurfang's son. The King spoke to Saurfang and stopped his own men to let Saurfang pass to get to his now fully dead son, Saurfang even thanked him and Jaina cried, saying how nice the King is for ignoring the fact that the Horde and Alliance cant stand each other, and that he let Saurfang get his son's body in safety

[@AirshipFury]

Nazgrim's death hit me hard since I've always enjoyed the quests he'd given in the past and loved the fact that this NPC was with me for years across multiple alts. His resurrection as one of the four horsemen in Legion made me beam from ear to ear since I saw it as me getting to pal around with my old (dead) buddy again.

[@davidmcfall9169]

Archavon's been watching for 5,878 years. wish i could be THAT vigilant

[@MrAntAve]

That's like the entire lifespan of mankind, not that surprising by Titan standards. Was he just sleeping and then woke up 6k years ago?

[@indeed2207]

3613785 days..... About 10 thousand years (9900,7 years) ..... You're not near it, I don't know where you live, having such a space distortion must be hard......

[@theossy]

Honorable mentions: - lost protectors of the vale; the 3 pandaren you worked with in the Golden Lotus faction, who were killed in the Sha explosion in the vale, yet linger on to experience the pain of their failure forever

[@vaskopoh9512]

tru \

[@medusathedecepticon]

theossy dang

[@olivierfischer7882]

I would have put Elisande on the list too, I always feel bad when she dies, gives her speech about having doubts and tries to help us, the players... KJ's death in Legion is somehow sad too, especially after hearing his conversation with Velen. Nice video though...

[@ignacioperez5479]

Of course. I always felt the action of velen like he saying: its all over, brother. Now take rest

[@KizTheCat]

The word is pronounced “bawbles” lmao

[@DellikkilleD]

ruined that whole section in a big way

[@dycus06]

slash laugh react XD

[@Palatard]

@@randomgirlontheinternet404 baluables

[@video_ouija7114]

I'm roaring

[@Wenedi]

Wtf are those English captions?!?!? Kael Thas is called DAT BOI etc.. where am I!?!?

[@maxxvii2037]

K1TT3N Edgy boi is accurate tho

[@TheKozdgaf]

Lol I thought I was the only one

[@Demonlogist]

English subtitles are golden here

[@darcusdmo4434]

@@Demonlogist TRUE

[@RogueCoup]

many headed boi

[@trebull2284]

Can we just appreciate the little animation for the paragon part

[@MilanNikolic96]

Nazgrim for sure. But as a DK, I felt really happy to see him raised as a DK and put in our Order Hall.

[@Bleislash]

@Deathcoldan wrong. Dk stays locked in undeath, they can't go neither to hell nor paradise

[@adko345]

That short machinima at the end was fantastic! Very well made video Hiru!

[@politelynefarious]

Honorable mention to Naxxramas' Thaddius, who has been making players squirm since WotLK. I loved this. Not everyone takes time to break down the lore. You were clear and concise, and the audio bytes were a great touch. Awesome work!

[@MiniTecGaming]

i know shes not a boss.. but... Ysera for sure!

[@randyisftw]

thats what im sayin

[@dabestorkposta]

In the Val'sharah quests? When whoever it was killed and raised her in a corrupted form? I was so sad

[@Justin-A-Carter]

@@dabestorkposta Xavius

[@FireheartYGraystripe]

Well at least shes back now

[@extraversi0n]

Archavon... feels bad man

[@korickarmstrong3468]

As an Alliance main and someone that primarily played during Wrath, I wish you had shown the Alliance version of the Saurfang story because it was pretty good for us too.

[@thegamingn00b59]

As soon as the gunship flashed up on screen in the number one spot I immediately knew Saurfang was number one, and I totally agreed.

[@calvinharrison947]

Sylvannas so far makes Garrosh not seem that bad.

[@glanni]

Garrosh even had the balls to scold Sylvanas for her actions in Silverpine Forest, back in Cata. I really liked him back then. I stopped playing before Pandaria so i was actually disappointed to see him take a turn for the worse, although i wasn't so attached to him to really be upset (unlike with Kael'thas)

[@AustinAaq]

Or arthas lol

[@troodon1096]

Oh he was bad enough, but he honestly believed to the end that what he was doing was best for the Horde, which is more than you can say for Sylvanas.

[@diz9606]

@@troodon1096 Sylvanas don't seem to care for the Horde anymore. It's one thing to take care of yourself as a person and seek your personnal goals, but it's another to do that while completely forgetting your role as a leader and letting your peoples behind as a consequence. Sylvanas should be above that but she's not, she don't give a shit. I'm for the Alliance all the way, but I feel bad for the Horbe because of how much it must suck to have such a self-centered, waste of a character and leader. The Alliance have Anduin, sure he make mistakes, he can be naïve at times, but it's normal, like he's young and all, he's still improving even tho he's already really good. Sylvanas don't have that excuse, she's shit just because.

[@GrenadierSquad]

The council didnt plead Garrosh not guilty for no reason. He did what he did with good intentions

[@lifeisfilth]

Saurfang should be Warchief.. I love that character, even as Alliance Player.

[@TheRealVandpistolen]

He's dead now

[@Shenteresting]

He said he didn't want to be the warchief before dying though.

[@troodon1096]

I feel that, just after Thrall, he's up there among Horde characters that both Horde and Alliance players have a lot of respect for.

[@Cowinator66]

I thought Nazgrim got shafted

[@kanetheboom]

Sylvanas: "Wait, that's illegal." **proceeds to absolutely wreck Saurfang in a fight, him getting not even 1 hit on her**

[@Tilretass]

Dude... Where is Arthas? His story is the most tragic in all of Warcraft. And the ending cinematic... "No king rules for ever my Son."

[@-Wolfheart]

Tilretas I felt bad for his father more than Arthas lol.

[@Tilretass]

The Howling Forge But mostly Jaina. She was so pure, tried to bring piece within the alliance and the horde, etc. And one by one everything went wrong in her life

[@modarnwarfare2rull]

Did you honestly feel bad about killing an undead that only cares about killing everything ?

[@Tilretass]

Derp Herp Okay, i wasn't sad when i was killing him, only AFTER we killed him

[@Tilretass]

So. You feel bad about Saurfang, but not about Arthas. Saurfang is a deathknight - undead- , who wants to turn you into undead too. He died fighting the enemy. Yeah, Arthas didn't die, but his mind was under controll and his soul was taken.

[@RealAlexanderMusic]

I always thought the fight with Y'sera was incredibly tragic.

[@idkwut2do907]

I feel when it comes to archavon we really were the bad guys

[@christophercheck1590]

The player-characters are often the villains for at least a chunk of several of WoW's expansions. The best example is Mists of Pandaria, where we go full colonialism on this pristine environment during the leveling zone, and spend much of the endgame trying to fix our mess (except the Krasarang Shore stuff; we were still ruining it then).

[@loknaz97]

Not to mention, Saurfang always lived in his brothers shadow even with everything he accomplished.

[@frydsaman6857]

Tbf tho every1 has always lived in broxigar's shadow the dude fucking split satans leg open

[@tenjenk]

That and his son was thralls first consideration for warchief after him. Imagine what a golden age that would have been instead of Garrosh

[@joesuh7492]

@@tenjenk no offense, but a leader who charges in without thinking up of a strategy and dying in instant 1 hit ko is not a good trait of a Warchief.

[@phugindomas]

Honestly, for me, none of these felt as bad as killing Arthas. We end his torment only to give him more in his afterlife.

[@ryanmacdonald8936]

At least Arthas is no longer evil plus I imagine he'll play some sort of role in Shadowlands where he'll hopefully for freed from his torment at last.

[@cassandramuller7337]

@J Ygb Well he wanted to save his people. So when he killed everyone in Stratholme he knew that he either had to do it now (when they were no threat) or wait for them to turn and then he'd lose a lot more people. But making that decision probably made him feel so guilty and unworthy and with a stain so huge on his soul that he didn't feel what he did mattered anymore anyway. So he continued making bad decisions. After he picked up Frostmourne he was basically mind-controlled. There was only a small bit of him left and that bit was the reason the scourge didn't overrun everything. And he kept Jaina's locket indicating that the small part of him that was left was driven solely by love (maybe just for Jaina but probably also still for his people). He was arrogant and cocky but he was also dutiful and responsible. Raised to be a king who would have to make dificult decisions. It is tragic that fate tossed him that lot.

[@Afterburn7]

@@cassandramuller7337 I wonder if the Lich King secretly held back

[@Evan-mt7bc]

You missed the saddest part about Varok Saurfang, he suffers from extreme PTSD. During his Blood Haze and the Slaughter of Shattrath he massacred over a dozen young Draenei children, their screams a sound he compares to that of a piglet put to the slaughter, it disturbs him so much so that he is actually a vegetarian and refuses to eat meat because he constantly relives the sound and images of those Draenei children. Just to stir some chocolate in his shit soup of a life he's one of the last people to talk to Cairne before his duel with Garrosh not to mention Saurfang was the final deciding vote that allowed Garrosh to survive his trial, yes Warlords happened because of Saurfang.

[@tomasmoreira1592]

Explain him in the horde Feast with plenty of meat xD

[@lastofus35]

He doesn't eat pork because of the slaughtering, but he does eat other kinds of meat

[@ElFenrir13]

Evan W The part that also hits was when he said, when Garrosh said they'd have grown up to fight them(what an ass), was Varoks response of "I'm not solely speaking of the children of our enemies..."..which implies in the haze orc children may have been killed, too. Yikes.

[@Terenin]

I'm supposed to be sorry for him? _"He suffers from extreme PTSD" suddenly don't sound very sad when you continue with "...because he slaughtered dozens of Draenei children and their screams of terror and pain reminded him of the way Orcs prepare piglets, BY STICKING THEM IN THE FIRE WHILE STILL ALIVE, so now he can't even eat pork because it triggers him."_ And that was just the START of the long road of horrors this aging mass-murderer has visited on anyone unfortunate enough to be attacked by the Horde. Fuck this guy. He deserves to never sleep again, kept awake each night by the haunting screams of the people he made to suffer and die.

[@Bahrtuk]

Terenin Meh, I can sympathize with him. He was under the blood curse like many other Orcs. Things like these have also happened in real human history as well, war is a nasty ordeal

[@NorthernBeard]

Great video! Surprised Malygos didn't make the cut.

[@TheSilvershadow200]

@@joheg8433 We'll still see about that though. Unhinged use of magic is undeniably drawing more and more out of the ley lines. I always did find some merit in Malygos' story, even if his method was not right. But with him abruptly stopped and no further precaution as to what continous magic can do the world, it still remains to be seen. (I bet it won't be though cause Blizz probs won't make that 'small but actually important detail' into a large plot point.)

[@ColCoal]

I just got a message.They want me to tell you, “Bug people hate you too.”

[@adriandobre9366]

I really expected Arthas to be on the list, for me at least, after reading the book, playing w3 and wotlk, it was tragic, he was always a bit arogant, but he was a young prince, that was actually a very realistic caracter personality. Considering that he was tricked by malganis and fell into lich king grasp was only because Uther did not trust him, he actually did all for his people and the ones around him abandoned him when he needed them the most, including Jaina who from the book you will learn that they were actually lovers.

[@kradgger]

"A lone orc? Against the might of the Alliance?"

[@aleksmilkov3974]

Chaaarge

[@BlueFireDrakka]

Ngl I kina wish they had kept bits and peices from both factions canon with ICC Saurfang passing on a debt to Anduin for Varian allowing him to take his bod would have been nice tbh

[@Joeyfield0]

@@aleksmilkov3974 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Dwarf

[@aleksmilkov3974]

@@Joeyfield0 by the might of the Lich King!

[@TheScoundrelsCantina]

If you plan on doing a part 2 video, include Sir Zeliek the only known undead paladin ;)

[@Oscar-pm9bx]

The Scoundrel's Cantina what are you doing here?

[@nickdummythicc3361]

The Scoundrel's Cantina omagugguuug Will you see this omagugguugyyyuuu

[@TheScoundrelsCantina]

We love wow as well and we also have a wow lore channel called the crossroads inn :)

[@JupiterKnight]

oh hi k

[@MrLachyG]

9:44 The Halls are quiet. Not quite.

[@randjan8592]

Something's not quite right...

[@rumham7631]

this fuckin guy literally can't even read... does he not watch his videos before uploading? He read "baubles" as "valuables" 4 times too....

[@mino9147]

A Very Nice Guy you're not a very nice guy

[@rumham7631]

I beg ur pardon m'lady **tips fedora**

[@MsYourvideossuck]

an illusion! what are you hiding

[@LohenArc]

No Malygos? Really? I mean, yeah, he was reduced to a T1 boss in WotLK but honestly, his story is more tragic and sorry than Saurfang's, IMO. He was just doing his job.

[@darwinxavier3516]

There were better ways for him to do it. But he just went for the easy purge way.

[@Terenin]

You are responding to a video done by an obvious Hordeling. 2/10 entries are Horde characters that half the game don't give a single fuck about, but are on the list anyway.

[@modarnwarfare2rull]

Sad about an insane dragon that wants to kill all mortal mages ? Might as well be sorry for DW because he went insane while doing his job.

[@FireSignd]

Anub'arak is also really tragic. And he was reduced to a god damn dungeon boss...

[@jovanbelegisanin289]

Insane dragon who wants to kill all mortal mages? You do reallise vast majority of blue dragonflight were wiped, and his story is actually kind of similar to Kael's?

[@PandaWolf525]

The Horde deaths I always felt bad for. They were always people that just did what they truly believed what was right. The only Alliance that I actually felt sad for was Varian. Other than that the horde were always the ones I felt sad for.

[@Pyorittelisinkohan]

Only good orc is a dead orc.

[@nielsdegroot2997]

Uther though? or King Terenas?

[@PandaWolf525]

@@nielsdegroot2997 Uther I can understand. Especially now with the Bastion Cinematic.

[@HominidMachinae]

epic subtitles made the whole video worth it. There's a ton of people doing WoW lists, though this one has a rather unique premise rather than just "best" or "worst" or "most interesting" or whatever, but those subtitles were comic gold. Subscribed for that reason alone.

[@itsgodzilla266]

I have a strange video idea. 10 weird things that one shot you. Not like just raid bosses, just strange things in the game that for some reason 1 shot.

[@pharahgaming400]

1. Alterac valley guards

[@iamtj111]

A decent idea, but here's a better one, top 10 most annoying/dangerous elevators.

[@SjiekeGast]

Gastropods in the Throne of the Thunder in Pandaria.

[@brittneystreeter493]

tj hall Undercity would be number one

[@Grieves0001]

@@iamtj111 serpent shrine cavern elevator, killed more raids than some of the bosses

[@Chickenderp]

Aww no Keristrasza? :( I was hoping she’d be on here or at least an Honorable Mention

[@greenchilistudioz4537]

i agree. hers is tragic and makes me hate dungeon since everyone want t complete it and take her loot :(

[@lauritsm9353]

*raid* bosses tho

[@Chickenderp]

Laurits M agh! You’re right.

[@rcslyman8929]

Yeah, if it were dungeon bosses, we could be here for hours.

[@teamfortressisawsome]

rip Nazgrim. DONT ATTACK HIM DURING DEFENSIVE STANCE GOD DAMNIT

[@aleksandarandjelkovic3731]

"A lone orc against the might of the alliance...CHARGE!!!"

[@Airkae]

I knew from the begining that Saurfang was going to be in the 1st place. My god, the first time I killed his son, it broke my heart when I saw him collecting his body and saying those words: "You will have a proper ceremony in Nagrand next to the pyres of your mother and ancestors" Felt so sad :'(

[@suhailb.2955]

Wheres arthus, having played him in warcraft 3 and seeing him fall into the madness of wiping the scourge and instead becoming part of them, his story is pretty sad. hope you include him in a part 2 if u decide to make one

[@Ziosove]

Where's sindragosa :(

[@averageanikienjoyer4156]

Ziosove Her voice is so annoying that I could never feel bad for her.

[@Ziosove]

Caius Juvonen understandable

[@darwinxavier3516]

We only know anything about her outside the dungeon journal from the now unavailable weekly quest to "save" her soul that was given by Valithria. We get to know Blood Queen Lanathel more than Sindragosa because of the Queldalar chain..

[@mattbad2594]

Caius Juvonen u would be annoyed too if u had been abandoned by the Aspects and left to die

[@Voodookillers]

As your pathetic magic BETRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYSSSS YOU!

[@doctordungus7774]

I always loved the Alliance side of the Saurfang battle. Muradin's heavy heart when he says he can't let Saurfang pass, and Varian coming in to order Muradin to let him pass...That was the close to the height of storytelling in the game, and it was really touching to see people who were supposed to be enemies showing respect for each other. And then BFA comes and the factions fight each other again for literally no reason, when they should both be saying "Hey, our planet is on the verge of death and countless numbers of our people were just killed by the Legion...let's end the bloodshed." But nah, VIDEO GAMEZZZZ! GOTTA HAVE VIOLENCE AND MURDER LAWL FUCK CHARACTER PROGRESSION FUCK LOGIC FUCK STORYTELLING LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL

[@markfenwick8939]

Actually, in lore the legion is dead in Bfa and they started a fight over Loeradon in fact, nobody likes the forsaken anywhere so it was promoted by blizzard that we were going to have conflict

[@chico1786]

I actually think, that as soon there is peace between these two factions, WoW as a mmo will end. That could be where this all is going, actually. Next they will make the players fight and defeat the void lords, over how ever many expansions it will take, but I think peace will be the last thing happening in WoW, before it will end as a game.

[@xxvorlandxx52]

There are years of hatred and grudges that cant be erased so easily. Not even time in panda land stopped it.

[@sword.art.animations264]

i understand why high overlord saurfang was number one.......damn i feel so bad now

[@melissa3920]

I have to disagree. And I don't care where on your list you put her, but having to kill Ysera still pulls at my heartstrings.

[@connman8d617]

True, but she wasn't a raid boss.

[@jawstrock2215]

oups that was ysondre nm

[@kyubeycoobie3568]

Wtc Ysera fucking dies?

[@ledpeng]

The Paragons were number 1 for me. Releasing them, getting to know them, and then killing them really stung. bug pun intended.

[@wircoal]

I didnt' knew for Archavon, so heartbreaking T-T

[@alice0795]

Yeah when ppl only comes for the loot that can happen

[@Mortqt]

13:22 - 14:10 The piano music there, what is that? And how do i find it?

[@Nicolas-dl6fz]

I really felt bad about Nazgrim...I know many might disagree but I love MoP. And Nazgrim pretty much stood at your side through a big part of questing. He just died as an honorable orc and doesn’t betray his leader.

[@Tusan789]

Kil'ruk's speech is actually amazing It feels really powerful

[@exeterra4825]

No Ysera?

[@TuberoseKisser]

exeterra probably because her death wasn't "HOLY SHIT I CAN'T WITH THIS FIGHT" her fight was incredibly boring and quick, it was the cinematic that made it sad.

[@Piromysl359]

I think he forgot to mention it's raid bosses specifically.

[@Dexieboi2013]

She wasn't technically a boss fight.

[@Audon4150]

Miss Ysera and Arthas to the video. So much

[@Firaveas]

Well this is RAID BOSSES, which she isn't one.

[@wilcovandersluis9652]

Nazgrim feels so much worse knowing Sylvanas took over the Horde later on and it's all repeating if not worse what Garrosh did

[@ArvexYT]

Nazgrim was the one who really got me... "What we do now, we do for the Horde. Both of us."

[@TarkinBaroth]

11:30 Whoever did the dubbing for Archavon, “baubles” is an actual word (meaning small trifles, gems, decorations, or trinkets) and it is not pronounced “valuables”

[@profrickshaw]

Another tragic boss: M'uru/Entropius. M'uru was a victim of the Blood Elves draining the Naaru's light energy.

[@henriknutsson8500]

i'm pretty sure no one felt sorry for him after finally downing him.

[@profrickshaw]

henri knutsson are you talking from a gameplay (fight difficulty) PoV or an *actual* lore PoV?

[@henriknutsson8500]

talking about the actual fight. if anything muru should feel sorry for us. i know the lore and he was definitely abused but i still doubt anyone felt anything anymore after finally downing him.

[@devincampbell5007]

I am pretty sure M'uru/Entropius was way too much of a pain in the ass to kill for anyone to feel sorry about him lorewise after they killed him

[@profrickshaw]

henri knutsson except gameplay difficulty (and whatever frustration you may have felt at the time) has no relevance due to the fact this list is about lore. Somebody could very well make the argument that they didn't feel bad for Vaelestrasz since he was such a frustrating fight (in fact as an NPC, he was responsible for the 2nd highest number of PC fatalities during Vanilla). Yet Vaelestrasz is on this list.

[@principetnomusic]

small brain: Y'shaarj big brain: *Many headed boi*

[@Dexsterandjack98]

No king arthas? I was about to stop heal my raid when he was nearly to death

[@EngiHvergi6097]

Bro, what addon is that when you're talking about the Paragons and accepting the quests and whatnot where it sort of changes how quest text shows up? It looks awesome!

[@verzocktes]

it's called "catch the wind"

[@Campo38]

What is your add-on to watch the quest like 15:30?

[@falscherkim3033]

Hey Hiru, i just wanted to point out that i normally find top 10 videos boring. But you are one of my favorite (wow) youtubers and do always such interesting stuff. Thats why every new video you make gets an instant like from me :)

[@HankJ666]

Lmao the subtitles "Edgy boi", "Dat boi", "Red boi"

[@brianjones1083]

Honestly I felt bad for killing Arthas the most his story is so tragic.

[@slotterfall]

He did it on himself, and the "Culling" was just awful.

[@ebrahiemismail7254]

I was looking for this comment, Arthas gave the ultimate sacrifice to protect azeroth and doomed himself in life and even after his "death" as lich king. If it were not for him, all of azeroth would have been annihilated by the scourge.

[@Moredhel83]

The once glorious golden boy, loved by all, had a bright future ahead... Oh Arthas... :(

[@MrDeathBoss]

Yeah, arthas done horrible things but he done for a greater good, also the culling was needed to be done, otherwise stratholme would only be stronger

[@Powwer69]

1:20 i got the bird on my first run

[@patrickb1303]

Ha! I’ve always been so pissed they make you kill Korvix after you raise him. It’s bullshit and I’m glad someone else noticed that. I’m sorry my giant bug child.

[@edwinwen26]

as a WC3 player，I quited WoW after killing Arthas，the game was over for me

[@outfromhellfiremage8014]

I felt bad killing Arthas too :'( evantually we killed WOW by defeating the lich king :'(

[@jackjia8773]

Öutfromhell FireMage to me, that was the end of WoW. I joined WoW to defeat the lich king and I did it. However, instead of happy I felt lost.

[@slorbonmyknorb777]

Mr. [Bones] MoP dinosaur raids was the best time in the game hands down. Armored dinosaurs and shit, plus the secret island that dropped the dino pets that sold for thousands of gold in the ah.. goooood times making huge 40man groups to kill the super rex boss on the island

[@chaosbolt66]

#5 was sad. Anyone else think Garrosh should have made this list. He wasn't evil... just straight up old school Horde. And honorable.

[@gracegregory7613]

He committed terrible war crimes and went insane...I feel no sorrow for him.

[@chaosbolt66]

@@gracegregory7613 you must be Alliance.

[@gracegregory7613]

@@chaosbolt66 No, but I've read all the lore. His own people ended up hating him. Plus he punched Thrall, which is a big no no

[@robindeboer7568]

this closed captioning is absolutely amazing XD "being saved by the Fish Bois, he joined up with Edgy Boi" when the narrator says "being saved by the naga, he joined up with Illidan" was 10 out of 10

[@robindeboer7568]

AND KILJAEDEN IS RED BOI OMG and ice boi lol these are too good

[@christofferjakob4386]

@himuaredx may I ask, what effect you use to outline characters? The one you used for Nazgrimm.

[@douglassmith2878]

How could you not include Nythendra, Ursoc, or Cenarius

[@andreasisaak6813]

Yeah, i feel bad for them, too. But tbh Cenarius technicly isn't dead.

[@momodubs]

*"MY PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED SO LONG" "IF ONLY I COULD SHOW THEM MORE OF THEIR BURDEN"*

[@xeronylloyd21]

"No matter how dire the battle is... NEVER Forsake it" Sylvanas shall learn many things...

[@martinhrdina6725]

6:58 what is name of addon you using?

[@BryknerTube]

Bruh, I killed Archavon every single week during WotLK and had no idea.. 🥺

[@Tainz227]

Archavons story is the best 10/10 lol omg it’s Soo good

[@TnpHGG]

0:20 voice crack tho :D

[@Soprie]

Just fyi, for archavon's piece, it's pronounced BAW-bels, not "valuables".

[@iskander_khalilov]

I was thinking of Saurfang for the while video, and I was so happy when you mentioned him for #1 ! Thank you for the content !

[@siba2893]

Whats the quest addon you used that makes the screen black and make it all nice story fashion.

[@filipnagy2591]

I felt bad for killing Arthas