Historian explains: What We Get Wrong About White Privilege

[@nytn]

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[@dinodinosaur2930]

Hi Danielle, I hope you and your family are well ... Thank you for the excellent content ...Could you listen back to your mic sound quality please? It sounds muffled and could just be your setting ... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@ShinobiShaman]

It's been awhile since I left you a comment. Unity in the country? That's hilarious. Did you see what happened in the UK recently? Keep dreaming.

[@freeformcreations]

Please re produce this important video, you are all over the place and incoherent while the research is sound. I say this as a family that carefully listens to your words and nonblack father of black children in USA. Kindly pay attention to your production as it was earlier, disciplined and clear. Appreciated

[@gejost]

I like your videos. I think you genealogical search id cool When the term privilege was coined, it wasn't coined to pretend that Whiteness is privilege over everything. Rather the author, Dr Crenshaw was suggesting that multiple dimensions of advantage exist and people with thpse advantages are often blind to the struggles of people who lack them. Wealth can be a privilege. Being White. Being a man. Being straight. Being CIS. Having an education. Being born in certain countries. Not having a disability. The effects of not having these things depends on situation. It's such an obvious idea.

[@hilohahoma4107]

Definitely no "races", only "one race", of humans with many variations of DNA makeups. The whole myth that America started has obviously backfired, one only needs to pay attention to the daily narratives of discomfort and confusion about our relationships with each other to know this. I have indigenous Turtle Island DNA, Anglo, Irish, French, African and even Basque heritage so I give myself carte blanche to rant about everyone I mean my family photos look like a UN meeting. Truth is we are all biased and operate on different tyrannical levels from deadly to laughable antics, it's the harmful light supremacist members that most need to be reigned in, their behavior has been ruining the planet for a while now. Healing blessings to all ❤😊❤

[@MoonFlowerCreations]

"Some are dark, some are light, all are precious in his sight." I like it. 😊💕

[@darlenethomas3689]

Me Too!!! 🥰

[@rocketreindeer]

I'm going to use that now. If I have kids I'm teaching it to them that way. Red and yellow black and white doesn't fit now but the message is still good for kids to hear.

[@stephb1221]

No piece of paper is required to authenticate the passion of a historian. You absolutely are one, as am I.

[@lokimsjrrd3451]

aka "You agree with my personal opinion of history, regardless of how wrong you are!, no certification not needed affirmative action all the way"

[@stephb1221]

@@lokimsjrrd3451 Don’t you have a date somewhere with an ant hill and magnifying glass?

[@lokimsjrrd3451]

@@stephb1221 If your passion for history matches the "wit" of your retorts, then you have proven my point....

[@stephb1221]

@@lokimsjrrd3451 I hope someday you find peace with yourself and the differences you have with others. Bye bye, now.

[@lokimsjrrd3451]

@@stephb1221 Nice Projection, as usual

[@larrywilliams9139]

The labels white and black in America are about caste. They grew out of the desire to define status in a static way. Their purpose is to keep us in our place. The one drop rule is a good example-even if you looked white you could not escape your caste. When I came out of the "color closest" and claimed my African heritage I was told to stay away from my junior high sweetheart by her father and brother. We moved that year (1969) because my parents were afraid my sisters could not marry white.

[@shamashatum7927]

100% correct white, black, yellow, red, brown are social caste/ social status these are not races, ethnicity, nationality, culture nor community welcome to the 1% of the enlightened

[@Roberta-q1q]

This white crone believes the "one drop" rule is designed to disinherit property owners' offspring who were born outside of socially approved alliance. Children of the marriage expect not to share estate with children not so sanctified. Married mom and in - laws share that expectation.

[@shamashatum7927]

@@paulacopeland8360 no such thing only a fairy tale label that we are made to believe to exist beige one 😂

[@paulacopeland8360]

@@larrywilliams9139 Marry white! WOW!

[@paulacopeland8360]

@@shamashatum7927 What the hell????

[@douglashoppe310]

You are a wonderful example of an American woman, and you have a unique opportunity and vantage point to speak to these issues. You have looked at your family and tried to walk in each of your ancestors paths. I look forward to watch as you hear and discover, and understand more. Your voice could help many. Great work Danielle.

[@davidburkes9513]

They're always has to be a Boogeyman. Coming for your job, Coming to your neighborhood, Coming for your children. To keep your mind off of who's coming for your money.

[@ozark8043]

That doesn't justify total ethnic replacement of European descended peoples everywhere we live. Trying to say that "White people don't exist", etc. It's all the same intentions. European women can't even safely walk their previously homogeneous cities and it's becoming the same in America and Canada, and they can't even organize for their interests as their very identity is denied, and criticizing mass replacement can land you in prison in Europe if you're White.

[@Roberta-q1q]

Bingo!

[@elleanna5869]

Truth in a nutshell

[@jiladawilliams2503]

Bravo! You have the insight that most don’t .

[@cbkqmom]

💯

[@AndrewBearchell-ci3bx]

Turning people against each other is actually what it is.

[@Frodojack]

If we were to see people just as individuals instead of focusing on their race and color an entire industry would be put out of business.

[@harrykezelian8009]

Danielle, in a world without calm & rational, measured critical thinking, you are a beacon of light. Keep doing what you are doing!!!

[@nytn]

You made my day ☺️☺️

[@mahnamahna3252]

I've definitely known "white" people who have a sense of loss or ashamed that they are "just white bread" Their (and mine) have been in the United States for many generations and have such a mixing in their families and a loss of their own history/nation of origin culture. I am an American by 7 generations, I think.. both sides of my family assimilated into the US culture. Forgetting their language, culture, food, and religion and became Americans I don't believe that's something to be ashamed of. Neither is trying to find your families roots and celebrating them. Whether you're Bantu, Italian, Scandinavian, whatever. The United States is made of people from aroundctge globe. Wereable to live here. Explore here. Have conversations here. In the pursuit of happiness.

[@malwads1836]

I do 💭 for some of us there is a feeling of some kind of loss in a way because our ancestors desperately tried to blend in with 🤍 society due to the brutal color based caste system we once had.For example I have Native American ancestors but I don't even know what tribes of origin they came from & there are virtually no stories of their cultures that have been passed down despite my grandpa still even being tan from it because he wasn't super far removed from them genetically.I've only 👀 a few very old pictures of some of them is all.As you said nobody should be ashamed because we don't necessarily know the cultures of our old ancestors of course🙂.....But there's a certain tragedy when we don't know because our ancestors tried so hard to assimilate with 🤍 society to make their family's lives easier that they basically had their cultures annihilated in the process😮‍💨.

[@mahnamahna3252]

@malwads1836 I wouldn't know which of my preAmerican cultures to identify with more...I do have Fitzpatrick scale II skin tone. I suppose the Scandinavian/Irish, (of which was protested to a bit too from my maternal side..kind of a giveaway). But other traits from eastern Europe, Italy, Africa and indigenous Americans are definitely present. I still think that that IS many of our culture. Of the melting pot that is the United States. Our ancestors (for the most part) came here in hope, for us. I know my ancestors were strong, hardworking and brave.

[@DievestorsNeverLearn]

@@malwads1836 Once had? Smh

[@hopegate9620]

​@@malwads1836 Learning more about your family history, I hope you'll be able to recover more of that culture. It's unfortunate that things were lost when trying to blend in, my grandpa can't even speak his native tongue Polish anymore, and my grandma learned Italian on her own because her parents wanted her to blend in more and therefore refused to speak to her in Italian.

[@patty4349]

The slow creep of the ideas of eugenics back into society should concern us all.

[@raristy1]

👍🏼

[@nytn]

Well said!

[@Benny_San]

Keep speaking the message of truth Danielle ! Your stance of non-conformity in todays zeitgeist is refreshing

[@alexanderdvorkin8764]

About the concept of race: I was born in the former USSR and in school we were taught that there are 3 main races: europeoid, negroid and mongoloid. Race was understood as something you are born with and cannot change it: color of skin, facial features. The word "race" did not mean anything else, did not imply social status. It took me time to understand that in the USA the word 'race' means a social caste, a privileged class or underprivileged class. So by the Soviet meaning of the word certainly white people are a race. If we go by the American meaning I am not so sure.

[@Iloveswedes]

Well, I grew up in America and also know of such a thing, and those were still assigned status. Being negroid or black was always the worst, while Caucasoid (Europeoid?) was always the best. This is the fake science known as phrenology, by the way. It's pseudoscience from over a century ago.

[@corilia9529]

That is also the anthropology standard based on skulls

[@msa565]

​@@corilia9529yeah and a lot of non whites choose based on facial structure

[@rachelann9362]

The best teachers for anyone is having a teacher that loves their subject, and wants others to love it too. A certificate doesn’t give you passion. Passion certainly helps keep my attention.

[@saavedra77]

I enjoy your videos about your journey, Danielle. I've been on a similar one. But as another mixed-"race" (Puerto-Rican and Anglo) person, I was surprised by your strong reaction to the "white privilege backpack" argument. So I'm going to disagree in a couple of places. To speak personally, the "white privilege" "backpack" framework chimes with my experience. I'm the fairest-skinned person in my family. The fact is that strangers tend to treat me differently than darker-skinned members of my own family. There's no getting around the fact that the world has been far more forgiving to me than to relatives who "look" "nonwhite": Despite many personal failings, I went relatively to good schools, won college scholarships, got interviewed and hired by prestigious companies. I never had to be "twice as good to get half as far," as the saying goes. I've never been stopped by a cop for any reason, whereas family members have been harassed by them since childhood for looking suspicious “at a glance.” This tells me that white supremacism still exists and something about where the color line is today. Yes, I agree that "race" is a constructed caste category that's used to divide - to divide and conquer. Yes, all “racial categories are moving targets in the long term. Many formerly “nonwhite” groups have been redefined as “white” over the centuries. Of course, during an individual life, being labeled "nonwhite" has always been a losing proposition in this country. Hence, few who achieve “white” status would tolerate what they perceive as “demotion” from its privileges. Perversely, they or their descendants might even become agents of overt white supremacy. (Think of African American Buffalo soldiers sent to fight Native nations on the Great Plains, or a descendant of recent Cuban immigrants joining a white supremacist militia.) Yet, the “whitening” option isn’t open to all. The people least likely to escape “nonwhite” status, to obtain white privileges include those with the deepest roots in the country. Due to structural barriers and lingering biases, the descendants of the formerly colonized and enslaved remain the least likely to achieve white privilege. (See Theodore Allen, “The Invention of the White Race,” Vols. I & II, 2012; Aimee Cesaire, “Discourse on Colonialism,” 1955, 2001; Isabel Wilkerson, "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents," 2020.) Why does it keep coming back to words like "white" and “white privilege”? Because we have to acknowledge a problem before we can hope to fix it. And “whiteness” is very much a problem. Not “white people,” but definitely the “white privilege” (generally higher family wealth, safer housing, access to better schools, less punitive policing, easier access to loans, etc.) awarded to those of us with fairer skin. Why whiteness? How did it get this way? Like much of the world, our society was fundamentally shaped by European colonialism. European colonialists sought to justify the power they violently seized from others - initially in terms of Christian morality. Like our culture to this day, Christians then associated virtue with light. Moreover, morality in their minds called to mind purity, cleanliness, virginity, and indeed “fair” and “white” skin. By contrast, like us, they tended to describe sin in terms of darkness, dirt, desire, savagery, and colors like red and black. Thus it's not hard to imagine how Christian colonizers and slave-traders projected "sinful" qualities onto peoples they sought to conquer and exploit -- whether they were non-Christians or just the wrong sort of Christians, merely had an unfamiliar culture or actively resisted the colonizer, or -- yes -- tended to look physically different. Ultimately, differences in physical appearance would prove the easiest caste marker to exploit, and the surest way to paralyze communities with lasting internal divisions. Given the alignment of whiteness with European colonial ruling classes, Christian metaphors of virtue, the racial caste system would always come down most violently against visibly “black” people. The borders of whiteness might be negotiable, But a culture of white supremacy burdened the darkest-skinned members of the community with the ineradicable stigma. (See Allen, “The Invention of the White Race”; Nikole Hannah-Jones, “The 1619 Project,” 2021; Ibrahim X. Kendi, "Stamped from the Beginning," 2016) Sadly, the phenomenon isn't just historical. We saw white supremacy reassert itself with a vengeance in torchlight parades of Nazis in Charlottesville; in white supremacist attacks on places where people of color gather. We see it in political "demographic panic" over "white people” supposedly “disappearing.” We see it in patterns of racial housing and school segregation, and self-perpetuating racial wealth disparities that have all long outlived legal Jim Crow. We see it in the wildly disproportionate ways that those who are perceived as nonwhite are policed, prosecuted and punished. We’ve repeatedly seen it in the public humiliation, torture and murder of nonwhites by police, vigilantes and white terrorists. (For a bracing study of racial disparities in the justice system, see Michelle Alexander, “The New Jim Crow,” 2010; for a wide-ranging analysis of how ingrained white supremacy is in our institutions and culture, see George Lipsitz, “The Possessive Investment in Whiteness: How White People Profit from Identity Politics”; for a thoughtful analysis of how white supremacy harms everyone, see Heather McGhee, “The Sum of Us,” 2021.) Nor do I think that the invented and changing nature of white supremacy means that we can talk our way out of this problem or simply ignore it until it goes away. I think we need to creatively and proactively deconstruct white supremacy. I think that we have to listen to living people who’ve been on the losing end of our society’s caste system as it exists today, instead of dismissing what they have to say based on historical examples of how whiteness changed around the edges. I think that’s how we begin to unlearn white supremacist assumptions. And it’s only when we start to perceive the white supremacist water that we’ve been swimming in that we’re really able to build solidarity and genuine connection across the awful racial lines we’ve inherited. (If you’re seeking more thoughtful approaches to dialogue on this subject, I recommend more eloquent teachers than myself: Ibram X. Kendi, “How to Be an Antiracist,” 2019; Ijeoma Oluo, “So You Want to Talk About Race,” 2019; Derald Wing Sue, “Conspiracy of Silence: Understanding and Facilitating Difficult Dialogues About Race,” 2016. They’re all wiser and more eloquent than I am.) Respectfully, Tony.

[@selinaBARMAR2565]

Like you a feel a little frustrated by it and these terms yet in the U.S.A. as one who has been an educator in schools, I was teaching about the continent of Africa and I have students who still don't know it's a continent. One child said it was a state. This is second grade but still. I was assisting in the class and not the lead teacher. Kids need geography and not just discussions on skin tones. Same for Europe, very little understanding of European history, Asian, etc. I appreciate your reaction to this. To be honest I think that this is a recipe to introduce upcoming a Socialistic approach to resolving the U.S.A. enduring obessession with "race." I like that you are talking about it in a way for society to really ponder what does all of this mean. I'm a tri-racial person for lack of a better term, a person of color, for lack of a better term, and when I buy foundation my shade is medium beige, and I have a blue passport. Now what? With all of that one still wouldn't know truly who I am as a person. lol, I agree with your son, we are more than crayons in a box. We each have a trail of history and feelings!

[@nytn]

I appreciate this so much and love how you expressed it! I was watching a YT video the other day where a guy stopped people on the street and asked very basic questions (what continent are we on RIGHT NOW) 99% of people failed. We need a more holistic approach to education. It’s such a big issue to solve it feels overwhelming

[@diegomattia4806]

@@nytn Well, it gets even more disheartening. I recently discovered that nearly a quarter of Americans still believe the sun orbits around the Earth. As an Italian, I have to say, Americans are quite unique when it comes to knowledge. I think this stems from a false sense of superiority that's ingrained in society-perhaps necessary when you're the most powerful country, but it certainly comes with its downsides.

[@lamontpearce170]

​@nytn I agree with you on the race , game. I see that the government has played, the divide and conquer conquer and sadly we keep falling for it. I was 17 in the military and asked a black friend about it . And he said it was a good question.

[@denisse37921]

​@@diegomattia4806 I'm not trying to start an argument cz you can think whatever u want, it's your right... but the idea that the world revolves around the sun is a rather new one historically & we've been taught something that caught on very well... but it doesn't mean that what we have been taught might not be a lie. If a quarter of Americans think that, then there's hope for the truth to be put out there no matter what the truth really is. We shldnt live in any country where nobody is counterintuitive cz then we would ALL live that lie. To that 1/4 of Americans who dare to go against the norm... I say BRAVO. That's not superiority, that them trying to equalize the zeitgeist.

[@diegomattia4806]

@@denisse37921 They choose to go against the norm by embracing ignorance? I’m sure there are better ways to be different. In any case, I wasn’t trying to offend Americans; I was simply stating a fact. It’s a fact that I find genuinely disheartening, especially because I have a deep love for America.

[@richielaxton9920]

Great topic. Those of us of mixed race and ethnicity just can't be pigeon holed so neatly. This upsets the apple cart of the race baiters and government bean counters. Speaking of "Whites;" if you drill down in many of those labeled white, often times they have Moorish (North African) or Native American/indigenous ancestry and therefore, are NOT 'pure white' to begin with. As time goes on and folks intermingle, there are less and less "pure" races or ethnicities anyway. Great channel!!! Keep up the good history work you are doing and fearlessly challenge these silly racial divides people and the government keep trying to throw up among us.

[@malwads1836]

My 💭 exactly.Also a LOT of "white" people are finding out that we're not purely of European decent thanks to ancestry 🧬 kits nowadays.The overwhelming majority of us have other types of ancestry mixed in ultimately ESPECIALLY if your family has been in 🇺🇸 for centuries due to the melting pot nature of our country.

[@patriciaryan1716]

Dont like that either. I agree with you Danielle. We can not all be put into a box. I am one like that also. To look at me you might say "oh youre white", but my maternal Grandmother is half Portuguese from her father, and have Czech and Irish and German on my father's side. I take after the Portuguese with tanner skin and dark features. Really not a black or white world in my eyes. I have love for everyone. Love your channel! My Grandmother was recently reconnected with her father's side at age 90, after finding family on Ancestry. It has been a journey. But gave her joy and peace late in her life. ❤

[@zigm7420]

You didn’t even get to the checklist that is part of this. I’ve been through this multiple times - as a work training, no less - and it’s always problematic. People in the room generally see me as “white”, since that’s what the instructions just told them to do, then end up arguing when I say “no” to things on the list like the question: can you find hair products in a grocery store that will work for your texture of hair. To them, of course I can. But really, I can’t having mixed type 3c hair. So now they’re arguing with me about my lived experience. It’s great. 🙄

[@nytn]

I’ll go back and look for that!

[@lm3049]

I haven't read this paper but I did have a very interesting conversation with a co worker and also a community member. What they communicated to me is that they think Americans are wrong in their description of people and feel that we or at least our government feels like they need to put people in categories. I have met people who absolutely despise being referred to as Latino/Latina and especially Latinx. They hate being labeled as Hispanic. Now there are a lot of people that really don't mind and haven't given it thought but when you look at it, there are quite a large group of people that are put under these labels yet they are from different countries and cultures. I have always felt that way about my culture. I am mostly Italian and Irish but mostly... not all. I have other ancestry that is not even acknowledged. We have to stop trying to label people and put everyone in a neat box... life doesn't work that way and is usually much more complex. But there is a commonality.... we are all HUMAN BEINGS.

[@relaxlibrary4249]

I think the 'See white people' point is aimed at the 'I don't see color' crowd, but also this idea that white is the default and otherizing people of color. It reminds of this interview I saw with Nikole Hannah-Jones about CRT in schools. The interviewer phrased the question as "There are some parents who say I don't want my kids learning this and then you have Black parents who say... Nikole Hannah-Jones had to stop him and point out that he was otherizing the Black parents by point out their race and not mentioning the race of the other group of parents because in his mind they were the default. It's the way the media talks about "Suburban women". What they really want to say is white women, because there are Black, Hispanic, and Asian women who live in the suburbs too, but hardly ever talked about in that context.

[@malwads1836]

Exactly.I kinda 💭 this loosely tied in with part of the "colorblind crowd" in a weird way.Actually in regards to the colorblind stuff with people pretending not to 👀 any differences in everyone...Anyone perceived as "🤍" or other types of people acting like they're colorblind is a load of garbage.We all 👀 each other's different skin tones, hair types, facial features, etc & whatnot...But the reality is that we don't actually give a flying 🍓 about it unless we're people that are prejudiced toward others ultimately.I actually 💭 it's unhealthy to completely pretend like there's no basic differences & that there's no such thing as people being prejudiced due to said difference... Sweeping things under the rug doesn't address the real issues in our society.Most people either fall in the "everyone is equal & discrimination no longer exists" crowd...Or they're in the crowd that's going on & on about "🤍" privilege and how racist most people are.......Both of these camps are toxic & there's not nearly enough folks in the healthy middle😮‍💨.

[@truthnotfeelings]

@@malwads1836 right. I remember there was this video of two babies (one black one white) running to each other and hugging. Loads of people took that as ‘see don’t see color’ but children do see colour, they just don’t attach stereotypes, superiority theories and have no bias against each other. Nothing wrong with seeing color, just drop all the other stuff.

[@relaxlibrary4249]

@@TwisterTornado Us everyday folks understand that the suburbs are multi-ethnic, but the news media doesn't. They do the same thing with "working class" or "blue collar" workers. You and I know that there are lots of blue collar workers who are Black in the Midwest, but the media is usually talking about white ones when they use those terms. They rarely single out white people as a demographic because they deem it as the default.

[@relaxlibrary4249]

@@TwisterTornado Lol. The major news media outlets are run by corporations, so they follow a for-profit model. They sensationalize and entertain instead of inform. I don't watch them anymore either. I stopped watching decades ago when I saw they were taking cues from social media. I usually follow news outlets from other countries and some online stuff.

[@francescadamore6746]

Someone who uses the term POC shouldn't act like they are offended by otherism. Because it's the same damn thing. Get over yours

[@choklitsoul4700]

The woman Isabel Wilkerson the movie Origin was based on studied and wrote a book“Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents” on this topic. Caste systems ( all over the world) were set up to keep everyone in their places designated by the Rich and powerful.

[@dianewien683]

If someone wants to "check" your credentials, it is obvious that it wasn't to see if you're teaching history correctly but that they feel that you are teaching the wrong information to the public.

[@geoffreymassey4865]

I agree with you and your interpretation, but I also feel like its helpful to understand the context in which "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" was written and responding to. Peggy's article is in response to an argument known as colorblind racism, which focuses on the individual while ignoring structural causes, which is responded to in books like "Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in "the Cafeteria: And Other Conversations About Race" by Beverly Daniel Tatum and "Racism without Racists" by "Racism without Racists Color-Blind Racism and the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America" by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, whereas your view is more in line with Frantz Fanon when he argued for the very abolition of race.

[@nytn]

Thank you, I will look into that!

[@geoffreymassey4865]

@@nytn Na habair e. I highly recommend the books themselves, but if you want a good summary of this viewpoint is the essay "I’m a Black Professor. You Don’t Need to Bring That Up." By Tyler Austin Harper is a really good summary, though you need to get around the paywall (don't know if I fully agree but still, it's a usefully summary if you want a quick read). Another good essay from a slightly different perspective is the essay "Lines in Sand" by Peter Gelderloos.

[@quidagis33]

I agree. I found it confusing that the historian didn't go through the list of daily effects McIntosh pointed out. McIntosh's essay was showing who or what is understood as the default and who or what isn't. So, the legal, political ramifications of constructing race in this way in the US has been normalized to the point that it doesn't get questioned. It is not part of polite conversation because color blindness is esteemed. The part that the historian was questioning was written by damali ayo I think, not McIntosh.

[@koolev2001]

Grazzie, muchas gracias, domo arigatou & hella props to you for making this (and all the videos you've done). I've avoided using even the term "unpack" for decades exactly because of this pseudo-scientific garbage article. The terms I used to say thank you represent only a few of the languages, & dialect (Bay Area) that are evident in my own recent family history. It's evident in all our histories that even the money languages are the only acceptable ways to express ourselves seriously as "adults" in public and in "business", academia etc. Like adopting "fauxny" racial labels we accept money languages as primary ways to communicate, not because they are actually clearer or more easy to understand, but in fact they further alienate us even from our recent ancestors; including grandmother's grandfather's great-grandmother's great-grandfathers. The continued attempt and acceptance to classify people by skin tone or facial structure, hair texture or spoken cadence, accent etc is pure propaganda. Popular comedians continue to rail on about the idiotic stereotypes of every race. Election coverage continues the use of these terms to identify voters & somehow even though academics admit that color based race categories are unscientific, somehow they are still the norm even as we see gender identities become more fluid. Even teaching at Laney College in Oakland I was routinely asked by colleagues to read this article, although I had already read it decades ago as an undergrad. Even at that time, I knew it, just growing up in a mixed environment in the deep east Bay Area that it reeked of something different than an attempt to end racism. Perhaps it smelled like the writing of someone who felt guilty and was trying to take themselves off the hook? Do they even mention class in the whole article, let alone millions of us people (most of us can all find in our own DNA searches) who have amazing and endless examples of diversity & mixing of all sorts. It's easy for the "leaders", really mis-leaders, of all our fauxny races to blame the "idiots" of each race (usually working class & working poor) for ignorance, crime & hate etc, even though these fauxny race leaders are the main ones benefiting from the division's caused by these fauxny racial labels. Well I really appreciate the analysis you gave of this classic pseudoscientific article. Grazzie! Salutes & keep hella spittin' da truth!!! -ev from da deep east bay

[@SparklyCoconut-le3fu]

You definitely raise some fair points. I will say these academic sociological discussions on race can certainly seem tedious and annoying if not kind of crazy. But I also understand that they’re trying to be objective about race abd acknowledge that it’s a part of our reality and it’s something we need to work through and talk about more candidly. I personally think that, given the historical context we live in, racial designation as a social, legal, and political descriptor can be useful. I think the notion of race is so entrenched in our institutions, that I think changing how we talk about race is nearly impossible at this point in time especially when there are prominent figures involved in the discussion that openly loathe the civil rights and voting rights acts and the civil rights movement

[@elleanna5869]

Point is, that race is not only a fake notion per se. It's also unfit to approach reality. Which is changing faster than people stuck in US/1st world privilege (whatever their skin tone) are actually realizing. Mass migrations, demography and religious belonging will erase the picture most Americans (whatever their skin tone)of today are familiar with. Edit : the privilege I talk about is wealth. US race "aficionados" love to tell me how OJ Simpson got accused, but never focus on how he could get out of trouble.

[@malwads1836]

I'm not getting into politics but I 💭 a certain political figure on the right that's infamous for a lot of very divisive public comments/speeches has kinda stirred things up in a bad way in recent years😮‍💨.Also on the more left side we've had some toxic people almost kinda acting like "🤍" people should be ashamed of what some of their ancestors did & pushing the false narrative that "🤍" basically have it "easy" due to being so privileged despite the high cost of living for example hitting many people of all ethnic backgrounds rather hard for example.I really hope someday we can move beyond all this junk together in a much healthier direction😮‍💨.

[@alphaomega203]

Peggy's document has been run through the gauntlet by so many criticizing how divisive and silly this is. Her knapsack's 25 benefits has been properly trounced such as the fact it focuses on personal identity over institutional structures. It is just a bad paper.

[@nytn]

I never came across it!

[@13579hee]

​@@nytn Put people deny the institutional issues

[@cjbloyer4137]

I just stumbled on your channel with this video and I LOVE this take on the conversation. I do think the reason why this conversation is SOOOO difficult is because, as a nation, post-1960s Civil Rights movement, we've internalized the idea that "racism is wrong". So, we've slowly been stripping away the outer trappings of racism in our speech and in our public actions. We've determined that things like segregation are wrong and should not be supported (admittedly, MOST of us believe this, some of us are...well...*sigh*). However, the next level requires us to think critically (which you mentioned and I think is essential for this conversation) about how the legal, social, and cultural structures that were built on foundations of racist beliefs continue to influence how we think, speak, and act today. I am the descendant of mostly European immigrants who came to this country over the course of about 200 years (my oldest immigrant ancestors arrived in the late 1600s, my newest immigrant ancestors arrived in the late 1800s). I can no longer say "I am English-American" or "Welsh-American" or "German/French-American" (although my paternal grandparents had an ongoing argument about whether we came from Germany or France and when someone did the research, it turned out our immigrant ancestors came from Alsace-Lorraine, an area that has been fought over by the French and Germans for centuries...so they were both right...lol). I have simply become an "American of European Descent", which is a mouthful. I studied history in college (B.S. degree! Woot!) and one of my professors once said something that struck me. She said, "It's so difficult to separate ourselves (as Americans) from 'whiteness' because for most, if not all of our history, 'white' was what everyone wanted to be." That legal term opened doors for you if you could prove it (understanding just how difficult it was to prove) and therefore, if you could claim "whiteness", you could remove yourself from the "them" category and enter the "us" category. The Poles (and other Slavic peoples), the Irish, the Italians all came to the US looking for a better life and were initially categorized as "them" or "non-white", but after a few generations, could move into the "us" (social category) or "white" (legal category) without too much difficulty. Those who could not easily move into that "white" legal or social category were most often hampered by the same legal and social structures. This is the kind of conversation we need to be having, its why I believe the critical study of history is essential to all of us. I've always loved history because I've always loved being told, and telling, stories. History is all about the story of who we are and how we came to be. It's not a short story though and requires us to listen to other perspectives as often (or more often) than we speak our own, and that makes it difficult to wrap up and keep our attention on. Sorry for the long comment. *see my last sentence in the previous paragraph* lol

[@eh1702]

In the early 90s I was shocked to see that the birth certificate of an American friend who would have been born around 1973-4 had “race: white” on it. I can only think of one other country, apartheid-era South Africa, that had such a thing

[@nytn]

My mom’s uncle’s says colored. We are from NY

[@joeydego2]

@@nytnI was born in the Bronx in 1974, I’ll take a look at what it says.

[@joeydego2]

Just looked. My birth certificate is a copy from vital statistics maybe 20 years old now. THERE IS NO LISTED RACE!!! Wonder if it existed on the original and why it does not transfer to a copy?

[@cdcdogs4961]

I agree with everything you said. I’m a family historian, and amateur genealogist. I’m always trying to share the same knowledge, and if only people understood how closely we’re all related, regardless of color, they might be kinder to each other. That’s my simple explanation. Love your channel. ✌🏼❤️

[@bamboosho0t]

Bacon's Rebellion, 1676, unknowingly set in motion this shockwave we still feel today. Race, ultimately, was created to be a phenotypic identifier of a person's culture, ethnicity, "enlightenment" status, and social/economic stratum. It was used to quickly decipher, at an eye glance, where they stood on this hierarchical ladder and who could share in the spoils of American prosperity. The use of marketing, advertising, religion, and pseudoscience helped to establish omnipresent visual and mental markers of one class of people being more deserving or "enlightened," and the rest as the crumb-gatherers. This led many of a lighter persuasion to recognize those benefits generations ago and fight voraciously to protect them. Especially those in the 18th century who remembered what life was like as a temporary Indentured Servant. They didn't want to return to that life, and the Social elites unwittingly used them as "middlemen" or protectors of THEIR interests. The "middlemen" (middle class) received little economic rise, but they received social power to keep in check those of a darker persuasion with impunity. As long as those of a lighter persuasion were focused on suppressing those of a darker persuasion, *no more eyes were watching the Elites and holding them accountable.* Like what happened just before 1676. This mentality doesn't go away overnight. You cannot legislate this level of animus from some people's hearts. This structure has served the ruling class for nearly 340 years. While it isn't the omnipresent, roaring lion it once was even 70 years ago, the lingering effects remain like nuclear fallout. And we're all standing in it.

[@veronicaharris8541]

@@bamboosho0t I agree completely, but I take on my exception. The municipal police force, black people face harsher treatment than lighter skinned"white people"

[@nytn]

Bacon's Rebellion is the most important topic left out of this discussion, hands down

[@veronicaharris8541]

@@nytn I agree 👍

[@kaizatengoku3893]

​@@veronicaharris8541What lighter skinned white people?

[@kaizatengoku3893]

​@@veronicaharris8541They not light skinned they fair skinned

[@metrobusman]

You are rapidly becoming one of my fav youtubers. If you think this is bad, you might try reviewing Tema Okun's absurd "White Supremacy Culture." Apparently, punctuality is White supremacy. I come at the issue of race from a revolutionary Leftist perspective and it was race which deefeated the workers' movement in century 20. Imo, that race theory which prevailed last century has not disappeared but transformed into, intersectionality, critical race theory, post-modernism, post-colonialism etc. and I've been talking and writing about it for some time--to no avail. Anyway, congrats NYTN, America runs on mutual racial antagonism, the ruling class couldn't last a day without it. And it seems that you and I are the only ones who see it. You say that youtube is 'throttling' your videos. Does that mean censoring?

[@markkeyser]

Having the term the term 'white privilege' tossed about so freely of late I've begun to think of it as being the new 'original sin' - something that can't be corrected. I totally agree with the assertion that it's meant to divide people rather than bring people together. We had a visiting minister at church state that the mostly 'white' congregation was inherently racist due to their 'white' background. Amazing that a man of God would stereotype a group of people whose hearts he didn't truly know - that a man of God would try to separate people rather than bring them together.

[@nytn]

making assumptions about people based on how they present is dangerous LOL🙄 but I also do think Americans need the basic and fundamental historic truth that only white men were allowed to be citizens for a long time. Not to further divide, but let it be a part of understanding where we started and where we want to be headed still. We need the history not to weaponize it, but so we can understand each other better. Im not sure it’s possible at this point. I hope so

[@markkeyser]

@@nytn The importance of 'what was' is of great importance but the importance of 'what is' is of supreme importance. 'What was' cannot be changed or rectified but 'what is' can be changed and improved upon.

[@relaxlibrary4249]

It's not about stereotyping, but understanding how public policy is shaped in this country. If we look at any policy from the country's inception, it was shaped around who was considered white and entrenched privileges (political, economic and social) for centuries. The use of the term white privilege is about using critical thinking to create a more equitable society for future generations.

[@Percept2024]

The answer is obvious , that was not "a man of God".

[@malwads1836]

Racism is an ugly thing & it's in every type of community in 🇺🇸...Not just the 🤍 community.These people with these unhealthy types of views/biases don't realize that they're actually just hurting everyone including themselves.😮‍💨

[@darlenethomas3689]

Thank You So Much for talking about it and seeking to shed light on this issue!!! ☕

[@Me2Lancer]

Thank you, Danielle for your post. As a Christian, I find the use of skin color runs counter to what it means to be part of the body of Christ. Unity runs at the core of Christian values.

[@thumbstruck]

Ever notice that pierogies and pot stickers look almost the same? The grandma's grandma's grandma's grandma's grandma's knew each other and shared the recipes. We're all cousins.

[@rogersepeda]

You’re absolutely right . We’re all actually related. It seems like we’re recycled dna , I say this because I’ve seen very old pictures from over 100 years ago that look like celebrities. This is why I say racism is stupid , the only difference is our skin color and hair .

[@Iloveswedes]

Empanadas, wontons, ravioli, samosas, kibbeh.....everybody has a dumpling.

[@JC-rz9cj]

I’m from a Nigerian Yoruban culture and we know the terms of black as a bad word. I was told never to call a man white(pure) for he is not better than me and never call your brothers and sisters black(evil) for they are not evil.

[@nytn]

My African heritage is Yoruba!

[@JC-rz9cj]

@@nytn welcome family

[@S5King7]

Your content is interesting, but that's not why I watch regularly. The reason I love this channel is your honesty and vulnerability. All opinions you give are backed up with some facts. It bothers me to hear you be criticized over speaking your truth. Ancestry isn't politically divisive. People are bringing their own baggage into the conversation and triggering themselves. Keep going forward, pay these folks no mind.

[@malwads1836]

Exactly & there's a LOT of people with a lot of baggage unfortunately😮‍💨.

[@patriciaryan1716]

This is a very very good comment! True, makes you stop and think. Facts just are.

[@ZendreGlymph]

Race is a social construct! I’m a historian as well. I love and appreciate your passion Danielle.

[@johnnyearp52]

Race is a social construct but it is treated as if it were reality. And it has real world implications.

[@katiefountain2407]

​@@johnnyearp52by liars with wicked intentions. They should always be called out and corrected at every chance.

[@ozark8043]

They changed the name to "common biological ancestry" and then said race doesn't exist but yes, definitely exists. Some groups just may exist as somewhat mixed in between them, like North Africans with 10-15% sub Saharan DNA, but that doesn't negate their real identity. Claiming they don't exist can have genocidal implications.

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

It's not a social construct that people have physical differences across the world.

[@johnnyearp52]

@@ozark8043 Why would realizing that humanity is all one race cause genocide?

[@mercedesb2299]

I say this all the time. My grandparents did the leisurely meandering over to Canada from Scotland, then wandering down into the US... and here we are, no drama, no fuss. That is the story for a lot of Americans whose peeps are Scottish or English. It is NOT the story for all white people. My husband is also very "White" but his family history is largely a mystery beyond the fact that his grandparents are Croatian & Russian. They were basically forced to flee Croatia and come here when the AXIS powers essentially seized the whole of Eastern Europe. They were not welcomed in with open arms we know that much but nobody really knows why, because their history was purposely erased the moment they arrived. Every male from his grandpa to dad, to him has been "John Holmes" because that is the name America gave them when they processed them. My husband can't even start piecing together a history of his family because the only name he has ever known is Holmes, and there are no Croatian families, or Russian families for that matter, named Holmes. And, much like the migrant children we recently seperated from their families, American immigration officials didn't see any reason to make any sort of record of who they were before setting foot on US soil and becoming one of hundreds of thousands of newly minted "Holmes" families. I can't fathom not knowing my family history. I know mine all the way back to medieval times, my daughter has my Scottish & and her dad's Mexican ancestry, and both sides were meticulously recorded back into antiquity. My very "white" husband has no idea who he is and only knows that his grandparents arrival in America was not a happy experience, and nobody was allowed to even ask about it when his grandparents were still alive, and now that they are gone, there is no way he will ever know who his family really was.

[@anthonywest7583]

Just keep teaching. Why are people so scared of teaching fact? The truth HURTS.

[@nytn]

It does! It's scary to realize you need to completely reassess how you view the world. It was for me, anyway

[@malwads1836]

​@@nytn...It can be scary at 1st when you've gotta reassess your views on life but it's part of what we call "growth"🌞👍🏻👍🏻.

[@blessed3779]

The problem is she “attempts” to teach from an uninformed and surface level place…… How do you “teach” when you don’t know what your talking about??? Her journey is still in its infancy and she has a lot of blindspots in the point of reference that she approaches things…… which is harmful, because she ends up spreading misinformation, distorting facts, and trying to make things subjective when they are not opinion-based. They are objective facts backed by centuries of copious scholarly research and anecdotal evidence. At the end of the day her verbiage gives the appearance she is trying to “identify” herself as black in some weird word salad babbling rhetoric that makes no sense at all. Bottomline is as long as you have to fill-in government forms by selecting the “white” or “black” bubbles, everyone will continue to subscribe to the categorization that is the social norm. Her ambivalence is arrogant and dismissive.

[@dieselphiend]

Subjective duality imprisons us all. The grass only appears greener on the other side. Nothing is more valuable than free time, friends, and relatives.

[@rachaelbarr3735]

I love your son's point and your hymn word change. I shared it with my son - we have talked about being all different shades of "tan" (melanin concentration in the skin and sun exposure affecting tone, and that we all bleed red!) - and he said "yes, because we are all made of dust!" :-) (Of course, there are many who would take umbrage with that, but whatever your theology, biology and chemistry agree we are all made of the same elements in all unique mixtures.) Blessings!

[@pcarebear1]

Yep, I find today's labels pretty disturbing. I thought I was too old to understand maybe lol. When my graduate program had the category "people of color" on my application, I was so confused and shocked. These new labels remind me of Jim Crow days and are the same as "colored". Also, what a nice way to talk about colors to your kid. Growing up, I equated people to ice cream flavors to help understand my mix and family's different colors in a positive way.

[@nytn]

I love the ice cream thing! We are huge fans of choc chip cookie dough here. Feels like an easy segue LOL

[@Roberta-q1q]

Trevor Noah tells of his (darker) younger (half) brother explaining to a young friend that chocolate comes in many shades, when the friend denied that Trevor could be his brother.

[@poemandres]

This is one of the major topics of today's time that is being debated and moments like this arise in history and it is chaos until we all form a consensus...That's why I believe all this discussion on CRT and White Privilege is so chaotic and divisive right now we have not reached consensus.

[@RbNetEngr]

This is another good video, Danielle. I had to watch it twice because I didn't grasp everything you were presenting the first time I watched it. What you say is spot on, and the so- called researcher who wrote the paper needs to clarify whar her background is. I wanted to share a few points: 1. The founders of this country who codified 'White' as a requirement for citizenship in this country were not creating a new concept; they brought that concept with them from Europe. The Europeans were the ones who explored the world, found people who were different (and more primitive) than themselves, so they were the ones who classified these different people as "lesser than", and enslaved them or conquered them. 2. While I agree that White is not a race, I agree that it is the default "human" designation that this country was founded on, and so anyone not fitting the narrow description of what classifies as White automatically become classified as "less than", only because of the nation's majority in power. This may change in the future as the country becomes more heterogeneous, and is the reason why the White Nationalism movement has become more powerful. 3. I traveled to West Africa several times (Ghana), where I was a very small minority "White" person. The difference in treatment was amazing. I was welcomed, greeted everywhere I traveled, treated well, and made to feel special. I was never made to feel like an outsider, or made to feel "less than" because my skin color did not match the 98% of people I was immersed with. It was an eye-opening realization of how badly the USA treats people who do not fit into the "majority look". Keep up the great work, and keep opening eyes, two by two, with your excellent research and presentations.

[@nytn]

This was a really great comment, thank you for adding it. My dad spent a lot of time in Kenya when I was little, and his experience was the same as yours

[@joecutro7318]

Many are so desperate to unravel the complexity of race and culture and it needs no unraveling, only marveling. The power of othering is very potent and divisive. The only powers greater are unity, love and respect. What if we were all walking blind. Keep the Faith, Danielle! 😘💪🏼🙏

[@japeri171]

In the Americas, ethnicity has always been used as a form of social hierarchy.

[@curtislowe195]

You mean like in Africa?

[@clairecooke6268]

Hey Danielle, I totally understand what you’re saying and I do agree with you about the “crayola colours”, but I can also understand what Peggy McIntosh is trying to communicate. In the 2 countries that I have lived (England and Australia) and being a person of mostly English heritage (spoiler: you’d never guess from my pale skin and freckles that one of my great great grandmothers was a woman of African descent), my whiteness was invisible to me, it was ‘other people’ who had a race, and I’ve certainly heard people from my parents and grandparents generation describing a white person as “normal” but emphasising the race or otherness of non-whites. I do think there are many people in our country that need to start by cultivating an awareness that their European appearance puts them into a bubble of whiteness that protects them from many of the prejudices other folks experience day to day. We shouldn’t be putting people in colour boxes at all - I agree - but that’s so much of the historical and social reality that we’ve inherited, that we can’t change it without first accepting it’s there & how we may or may not benefit.

[@nytn]

We need a new generation of kids who haven’t been polluted like we have!

[@TroelsNybo1st]

My own DNA is as purely Scandinavian as any white supremacist could wish for, but it has only happened once in my life, that I saw or heard a member of my own family being described as "white". About a century and a half ago, many rural people from Scandinavia migrated to other continents. Members of my own family were among them, and while doing a bit of genealogy, I stumbled upon a census record from about 1910 which categorized one of them as "white". That was a bit of a stunner which made racism more personal for me. Whiteness was never a theme for farmers from Jutland.

[@elleanna5869]

I travelled and lived in Southern and central Europe - nobody calls him/herself just "white". And who does, is immediately seen as "kinda sus" (Austrian painter nostalgic and so on) In Britain , it's more common , as a result of their colonialist heritage, yet even there they prefer self label as British and/or their own nationality in Britain- as for me, as a Nigerian/Senegalese, the idea to self identify just as "black" is as much as alienating and "kinda sus" like that. (adding some kind of "why the heck you think of yourself like the dumb colonisers did?" - yup, because the smart ones soon got the differences beyond one or two microns of melanated surface )(to conquer better in most cases 😅)

[@chrisgrethlein6196]

I am a man who by all standards would be classified as 'white', although that term has no meaning to me beyond that. White is not a race, a culture (some would argue that), or a nationality; but yet in America it is used as a classification of identity. I am sure there are learned papers out there that explore the origins of white and black as identifiers. I am just at present unfamiliar with them. I was having this discussion with someone recently - I put forth a globe and asked the other person to find 'Whitelandia' on it. Obviously, there's no such place, but it begs the question where do these terms come from? They are clearly American in origin. From observing our society, what has become apparent to me is that the only people in this country who primarily identify by color are those who are no longer connected to their ancestry. As most of us know, 'black' people are primarily of African ancestry, and through the tragic institution of slavery, had their language, culture, and heritage taken from them. The only white people who primarily identify as 'white' live in Appalachia, the deep south, or portions of the midwest. Their ancestors started arriving in the 1790s, mostly from Scotland and Ireland, and were soundly rejected by the established East coast communities. Thus, they traveled inland into the wilderness and lost all connection with their European forebears. Conversely most 'white' people in the big cities don't see themselves as white, but whatever ethnic origins are contained in their ancestry. For example, my father's family is German and my mother's is English. That's how I see myself. Lastly, there are no races, except the human race. Racial classifications by color, as they are used in this country and some other places, is purely a human construction. I do understand that's how many people look at others, despite how flawed that thinking is.

[@kaizatengoku3893]

The native american is american in origin

[@kaizatengoku3893]

Human is a species not a race and the ethnicity of humans

[@oddindian1]

Nothing born of egotism has led to anything good in the long run. Egotism is fear and uncertainty that replaces sense and peace. This is like reading Mein Kampf light.

[@tyroneslothrop1243]

If we are talking about academic credentials, Peggy McIntosh is not a historian. She received a PhD in English literature. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[@timeforchange3786]

The concept of "white privilege" was pushed by the communist group Weather Underground Organization in the 60s. They are the group that bl3w up a townhouse next door to Jane Fonda's stepmom in New York making b*mbs to bl*w up police stations and a police ball dance/dinner in the 70s. They also were responsible for the b*ombing of the capital, Pentagon, and police stations.

[@glytchd]

This is part of what fell Rome. The mental gymnastics alone are enough to give a sane man a nose bleed

[@xc8487]

The greatest irony is that to be not racist today, you have to be racist.

[@tigerstallion]

dont give up the language battle. dont buy into the theory of race

[@elleanna5869]

If you are a racist, you are a racist. The only irony is believing that you may be so in some "good way". Well, not irony- defeat.

[@malwads1836]

....In certain toxic individuals eyes yes🙄😮‍💨.It's important to always hang onto the truth though...Even if others try to twist it into something it isn't.

[@drewncarolina6381]

@@xc8487 I believe one needs to strive to be anti-racist. Basically shutting it down whenever you hear it and letting the person saying it that it's not acceptable.

[@truthnotfeelings]

@@tigerstallion I’m intrigued what is your issue with race theory

[@sbosh7822]

I do think there are times when it's necessary to use someone's skin color as a descriptor. As an example, my family's house has 3 houses behind it, with one house directly behind, and two houses diagonally behind. Those 3 houses are part of a completely different neighborhood, and we don't know the names of any of the families living there. So the descriptors we use for them are the "black family", "Japanese family", and "new house" (the last one has white residents but we're not even sure if one specific family is actually living there, so instead we just say "new house", as it was built most recently). So for example, sometimes we might be discussing something about our yard or a neighbor's yard, and we might say something like "the pine tree near the black family's yard is getting tall".

[@batya7]

I love your analysis, your comments, even the changed lyrics of the song your 5-year old identified. We must remember that the original 3 "races" in the Bible derived from the sons of Noah: Ham, Shem, and Japheth (Genesis). Ham was associated with all of Africa, Shem with all of Asia, and Japheth with all of Europe. In the nearly 6,000 years since the Biblical account there has been a lot of mixing. More and more, I find myself presenting a voice supporting that "race" is a construct, a legal designation as Danielle points out. As I get older, I have contact with many many wonderful people from all backgrounds -- and I try to look at people for their merits, not their skin color. Filling out lots and lots of applications lately for jobs, there's always the "self identification" questions, divided up into "races," but now there are check boxes for "2 or more races." Well, I check "white," but 100 years ago my people weren't necessarily considered to be white (as Danielle previously discussed in other videos). Being of Ashkenazi Jewish and Italian heritages, the term "white" may have been moot then, but I don't feel comfortable with it now. When I was in college, for my history major, I took Black History, Chinese History, Japanese History... but I never took a course called White History. That may have been appropriate a scant 30-some years after Brown vs. Board of Education, but it sure isn't today. Luckily, I also got to opt for courses on social history - how people handled everyday life, not just wars and political coups (the history of which is always written by the victors).

[@kaizatengoku3893]

What college you went?

[@elleanna5869]

I wish to know "black history", exactly, what was about? Because it's obviously a senseless category such as "white history", while the history via Nationality or geographical areas make much more sense. What did they exactly lumped into this extravagant "black" package? Just the American history of black Americans, or the history of all Africa and all vaguely melanated people? Sorry for the Inquisition 😅

[@batya7]

@kaizatengoku3893 I went to a major university in Pennsylvania that is known for its expertise in computer science. I earned a double major in Biological Sciences and History.

[@IvarEriksson83]

Purchasing a formal degree in history is a trivial pursuit, as the annals of human experience are open to all who seek knowledge. The act of engaging with the past, interpreting events, and understanding their implications makes us, in essence, all historians by nature, irrespective of institutional validation.

[@michaelpierce3264]

love your passion!

[@jiladawilliams2503]

Awesome message! Thanks.

[@tramos8264]

Great video as usual!

[@joeydego2]

Once you realize there are only 2 colors in America (GREEN and NOT GREEN), you will prosper no matter who you are.

[@jharekcarnelian]

Could someone point out to the person who wrote that document that not everyone in the world is living in the US and we don't all see the word through that paradigm. That's one of numerous flaws with it. If people started talking about segregation with me I'd note that it occurred Ireland as well historically. I'd note that the way it was implemented in the US was vile but it is not the only example.

[@ElectricSoul828]

I am honestly tired of the racial hatred i keep seeing. Its ok to be who you are. Its ok to be white, black, asian, or whatever.

[@Draco_Alpha]

100%

[@kachinaferguson3958]

My grandfather met my grandmother in World War one in China she was a historian and she talked about the Black people in the mountains. They don’t teach that her father was racist, and they made her give my father up. She look for her family years later.

[@anonymousbosch9265]

My wife is 45% indigenous Mexican and 45% European Spanish and the leftover is sub Saharan African but she looks like a tan “white” woman. I’m mostly a mixture of European Caucasian and Turkish and I “look white” and I guess I think of myself that way but my point is that race is almost totally arbitrary and with religious leanings on the global decline I think it won’t be long before we as humanity are going to need to figure out some new and horrible ways to hate each other

[@TRASH78246]

It's kind of funny, but until the 1920s, in the US Greeks or Italians were not legally defined as white. The term "white" originally meant the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant exclusively. It slowly began to include others (due to the self-evident fact that you couldn't tell someone's ethnic or cultural origin from appearance). Consequently the terms "white" or "black" or even more so "yellow" are cultural rather than race-specific (Koreans or Japanese are actually lighter-skinned than many Europeans). I totally agree with the spirit of this video.

[@TRASH78246]

@@garethdean5501 It makes perfect sense for Greeks to pronounce Greek words (such as pharmacology or the entire medical terminology) with the (correct) Greek pronunciation. The same applies to the rest of the peoples who have borrowed words or terms from their language into English. I really do not understand what you want to say, nor how what you write is related to my comment, to which you are responding.

[@garethdean5501]

@@TRASH78246 It literally doesn't have anything to do with your comment because it was supposed to have being for another person. It's very obvious it was a mistake.

[@TRASH78246]

@@garethdean5501 ΟΚ

[@rexmundi7811]

Hundreds of thousands of Italians immigrated to the United States and became citizens before the 1920s.

[@laurenalexandria1504]

You're saying we insist on using these terms but these are the terms the government uses on offical documents. The leaders of the United States created these terms. What do you suggest we use to describe people?

[@mariepearl-harbour2335]

Beautifully presented. Let's come away from this 'Black and White 'classification nonsense. You are a very beautiful woman.

[@cheesewithxbread]

Abolishing racial identity doesn't erase the lived experiences that have shaped many of these identities. The Asian American identity, for example, emerged during the 1960s liberation movement as a response to widespread discrimination faced by East and Southeast Asians due to their perceived proximity to the Han Chinese ethnic group. This Sinophobia fueled much of the anti-Asian discrimination. However, even the term "Asian American" is inaccurate because it broadly encompasses all ethnic groups from the Asian continent, which is why subgroup descriptors are commonly used in activist and academic circles. Historically, racial identities have developed from the collective experiences of segments within larger racial groups. These identities were often about solidarity and power-building, rooted in shared or overlapping lived experiences. We have rigorous debates in academic and activist spaces about the identity just as many have fought to change and redefine the Census categories.

[@kevintse2870]

Have you ever gone on Coleman Hugh’s podcast?

[@RonnyThomas-x9u]

It is needed to be talk about because black people people of color are victims of white supremacy and white nationalism and in 2024 we are still dealing with this problem

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

Their are 2 million black millionaires in the U.S. not to mention millions of very well-off black people all thriving in the highest places(Corporate,Government, Business, Sports. Entertainment). How could this be possible under a system of "white supremacy"?

[@counterprogressive5800]

as an irish person whos great grandfather survived to potato famine and had to pay people to buy him food for him because the store owners would not let him in the store because he was irish i was told us irish would be treated as equals one day but now I am told by everyone that because of my skin color i ow minorities a debt and should feel ashamed of myself and my heritage and should be held back so those who have been historically oppressed can move forward.

[@Percept2024]

You Tube likes to erase my comments , but I will try !! For many decades you IRISH have been shoving your "culture" down America`s throat. As a person who is half Italian and half British-American , I have little interest in Ireland or ethno-centric Irish Americans.

[@yesinrealtechnicolor]

Honestly, no. I am not going to say you are not told that because I don’t know you. But I will say this - you are boiling down something that has many nuances. You shouldn’t have to feel ashamed of being Irish. And since you are Irish and have the stories you have from your grandfather, let me tell you one from my black american grandmother: She lived in 50s 60s Baltimore MD, in a mostly segregated neighborhood, though the children on the street played outside, they were very cautious of white men in trucks who would go around and take children from their neighborhood off the street. They would drop the children on the street decapitated. There are many Irish- Americans who relinquish the specialized knowledge of ethnicity based prejudice to join the ranks of anti blackness - sometimes to make themselves exempt from the same very hatred they experienced firsthand. As a white person, you are able to do that. As an Irish person, I don’t understand why you would, having the same generational stories as me, a black american. That’s what we mean when we talk about white privilege as a whole. The lack of English heritage made Irish people a target in Britain, but your skin color garners you the privilege of social amenities now in America. We ask you to understand the plight of our generational trauma but you withhold the empathy your specialized experience with the Famine gave you. We both are the descendants of people who faced genocide driven tactics- Why can’t we understand each other?

[@counterprogressive5800]

@@yesinrealtechnicolor you are a sick person for telling such a disgusting lie.

[@counterprogressive5800]

@@yesinrealtechnicolor that is a lie

[@joeydego2]

@@yesinrealtechnicolorso my 2 backgrounds being both Jewish and Sicilian make me a double victim. Hitler threw my family into ovens and gassed them to death and northern Africans raped and enslaved my ancestors. I understand the plight of any oppressed people, but I also understand in america anyone who wants to make it has a path to a comfortable middle class existence. I passed a civil service test and had a 23 year career right along with everyone else of all different backgrounds. My only inheritance were funeral bills. IF white privilege exists, I never got my share, that is for sure.

[@Food4CriticalThought]

I’m trained in psychology and found no lies here.

[@Mister006]

"Mulatto" is part of what is known as "Casta," and "Casta" is the foundation for the word "Caste" as we understand in the English language. "Casta" is also the foundation for the social construct of "race." "Casta" was a false social construct founded in the Iberian penninsula, following Vasco da Gama's trip on the Cape Route and return in the late 1400s. He witnessed the hereditary Indian social construct of "Jati." "Race" being formed out of "Casta" makes categorizations like "Mulatto," "Meztizo," "Cholo," and "Negro." As "race" pertains to "white" priviledge, those that are deemed and accepted AS "white" under the "race" social construct, the construct provides UNMERITED and UNEARNED advantage. These come included with the claim of "race" superiority, where enslavement would not occur, state protection would be provided, and terrorism would be justified against all those not considered "white." The "white" privilege was created to enable terrorism, to ensure that the "race" social construct would be reinforced through violence.

[@BerskiTV]

i'm 65% from Great Britain and Ireland, and 35% from Slavic & germanic countries (Poland, Russia, Slovakia, Germany) countries, Mediterranean countries (Italy France Spain), and Ashkenazi jewish from Poland and Slovakia, 60 years ago i wouldn't of been considered white, although i'm 2/3 what would of been considered 'White' back then.

[@rexmundi7811]

Do you really believe that in 1965 someone who is of almost entirely of European ancestry would not be considered white ?

[@crptnite]

Also, your son's lyrics are perfect! Back at the height of the LGBTQ Hate that nobody seems to care about now that we're back on this nonsense because Racist people can't stand living in a non-Racist world... I changed it to "gay and straight and trans and bi" God Bless you and your son 💜🙏🏽🕊️

[@FHTheConsciousMelungeon]

Incredible video sista!

[@dalyahgreenberg2688]

White is a caste system created in the late 1600s in colonial america and included anyone coming from west Europe regardless of skin color. If you study European history, you will understand that there was a plethora of brown or black skinned Europeans that migrated to colonial America to escape persecution such as the Irish, Scottish highlanders, Iberian Sephardic jews, etc., and they would have been classified as white even though their skin color was brown or black. It is only around 1924 under the racist agenda of bureaucrat registrar, Walter Plecker, when the definition of white drastically changed to the one drop rule that now excluded their brown colored descendants from this social caste class. The new rule then stated that white or white settlers was solely based on caucasian skin. Public school history was systematically revised to omit the existence of the dark skinned Europeans from memory. Today, many of their descendants are the so called black folks.

[@Abumustard6364]

Scottish highlanders, brown and black? Lolwut

[@travelingwithautism2246]

@@Abumustard6364this is well documented in the transport records of the jacobites, also in many other books, not kidding.

[@Abumustard6364]

@@travelingwithautism2246 Only thing I can find is some random AI voiced videos on youtube of dubious quality and an article about a few individuals who were black who were present during a Jacobite battle.

[@SilverSquirrel]

Just because someone has an inferiority complex doesn't mean that I have a superiority complex. I guess it's just easier to blame others than to actually work on improving yourself. Whaaaah!

[@michaeltaylor8501]

Re: Degrees... It's always nice to remember that the first masters degree was awarded by someone who didn't have a masters degree; & likewise, the first doctorate degree was awarded by someone who didn't have a doctorate degree. - - - Re: White, Black, & etc... White & Black are each a legal status (each being a legal construct: Black being Outlaw & White being Law-Abiding - in a non-racial legal sense); &, the idea of races - & the catagorization thereof - have been hypothesized in various ways by various folk (& such are social constructs - & some would say scientific constructs in some instances). Due to all of the possible variations, talking about it will always be controversial - & dropping the subject entirely & forevermore creates inconvenience when it comes to moments where descriptions or comparisons are appropriate.

[@MelaninAmerican]

3:14 “Some are ‘dark’ and some are ‘light’” is also problematic due to how the words “darkness” and “lightness” have been symbolized throughout global culture: dark=spooky, mysterious, evil, inferior, white=innocent, pure, good, superior. Hence, the original “red and yellow, black and white,” although grossly inaccurate and (becoming) outdated racial identity markers, should not be modified. Also, it’s probably better to retain the original wording because, as you pointed out, even a child can see that there’s something off about it. Your son’s awareness of the inaccuracy of things like this might become diminished and prejudiced by this new awareness of the binary classification of “dark” and “light” people. Perhaps this logic is a bit of a stretch, and hopefully that’s all it is

[@elleanna5869]

We must not be afraid of categories, our brain is wired to work and store infos this way. What we need is to frequently refresh our awareness that categories/biases/prejudices are just a limited way to adapt , bonded to context, and they aren't static. The obsession to find some perfect frame perfectly objective turns into tragedy when it turns into politics and social construct. Race is one of those tragedies. Btw there's no inherent malice in assigning negative meanings to darkness, it was the very first vulnerability our species experienced. I am African , black, and as many other people mine too ancestrally fear night darkness with tons of myths and Legends about it. It's not all about "race". Change context and you have a positive attitude towards black that yet has not to do (again ) with skin colour - the ancient Egyptians for eras associated it to youth , prosperity, godly gifts and blessings , because such was the colour of limo, the ultra fertile mud left by the River Nile which literally created the chance to survive and flourish to Egypt. We must not "know all", just aknowledge our limits and remember that while current US narrative hate it, context does exist and dictatates reality.

[@SS-hz4jo]

Good video. Once we normalize criticizing crayon chaos, we can live a bit more happily.

[@nigelralphmurphy2852]

Peggy McIntosh is absolutely brilliant. She lays it out so clearly and rips the veil off the overwhelming BS that exists about race in America. White was originally White Anglo Saxon Protestant. Whiteness is power, whiteness is ownership of the world for ever and ever Amen.

[@johnnyearp52]

I think that calling people black and white is a mistake because they are opposites. In reality humanity is varying shades of brown with most people in the middle. Extremely light and dark people are less common. That said in the USA the structure of our society is still set up around these terms. I do call people Black and white in every day conversation. I do use the term white to describe myself and other people for lack of a better term (that would be understood). I also live in a state where only half of the population is called white or Anglo. I personally don't like the term Anglo either. It is the name of a Germanic tribe that invaded what is now England. So calling all white people by one tribe's name is like calling all Native Americans Navajo. Finally, I do believe that structural racism exists and is a problem for our country. Because even though race is made up by humans the idea of race is very imbedded into the culture of the USA.

[@kaizatengoku3893]

Not really brown

[@johnnyearp52]

@@kaizatengoku3893 Yes, shades of brown. Mix brown paint with white paint and you can paint even very pale people.

[@Galidorquest]

@@johnnyearp52 I agree, but it's been our identity for hundreds of years. America is still a relatively new nation (and stolen land) with a dark past and no historic culture, traditions or clothing to unite the people. The only time Americans come together as Americans is during war-time.

[@drewncarolina6381]

A different way to describe "white privilege" is generational wealth. Wealth is difficult to build up and pass on to the next generation, especially when the laws are stacked against you. This is commonly done through home ownership in the US. We as a society need to find common ground and figure out how best to help those of us that have been left out no matter their race or any other identifier. We must stop othering people and let others know that it's not cool.

[@elleanna5869]

....uhm .nope. You can't assume that being of a certain phenotype means you have this relevant andvantage. Actually, all numbers and data point to the fact that absolute majority of poor people in the US are "white". Relatively , there is a disproportion - the Black minority is more plagued by poverty, yet there are more many nuances. There actually is a relevant black bourgeoisie, doing well. Kamala and her succesful family is proof that white privilege is largely a urban suggestion, together with the impressive economic performance (building actual generational wealth) of her predominant ethnicity (Indian). Tbh , the stress on "civil" rights looks like the exit strategy of so called "left" from engagement in the struggle to actually fight the class inequality , shifting from income, power, control of production to "racism as the biggest problem". This is the only affordable version of a very watered "Marxism" for a capitalist reality like post 1989 west and especially capitalist on steroids US, coming not by accident from the political side more tied to actual generational "white" wealth and bourgeoisie in control . It's the same pattern almost everywhere in the west , and this is why even former die hard leftist voters shift to "right", smelling the hypocrisy and the basic actual indifference/contempt for working class and the poverty issue coming from self proclaiming "progressive". Not surprisingly, in order to back crt and/or race baiting , the all "feeling and emotional and micro aggressions and personali truth" approach is privileged (no pun intended) and preferred to fact checking and proper investigation of reality both via economy and history and the ability to read data - which is almost absent from the skills required in social studies in the US. It is bewildering how this kind of inability is not only *not* fixed but actively pursued even in many "costy sanctuaries" of education. Societies manage to survive based on some kind of functional myths , in a rather fragile balance , and probably in this historical moment a certain level of ignorance and distraction from real social shifs really happening is considered useful both to actual privilege (the wealth one, that ironically was never so raceless like now, in full globali finance) and to appease the audience "we are the militants working for you" In the US this US formula of course has worked and works , in the rest of the world actually isn't and the fact that the rest of the western "former progressive front" is desperately trying to force a US narrative on not-US societies is producing some big , big damages. In the other 3/4 of the world, it seems is producing further inamitie' for the patronizing west Edit oh my, sorry for the epistle 😳 but actually US and west bourgeoisie playing the "ally narrative" is a rhetoric that absolutely needs to be called out. And also sorry for typo and grammar errors - English is not my mother tongue.

[@debdeb3932]

I think you cannot remove the term white to explain white privilege because as you said it was/is a status that afforded people and their descendants in that category a certain way of life that was most desirable. You are correct however when you say we have to go back to history and the facts to truly unpack what that term means. The problem I see is too many people would rather ignore the history. It’s the truth that will set us free to be more unified as a nation.

[@cheesewithxbread]

Yea, monolithic whiteness is a new concept. What the census defines is entirely different from what the public masses percieves.

[@2neetoon]

😲 YIKES! This one is revealing. I could never get a good gauge all these yrs but I have now. Deuces, y'all.

[@BBradford1825]

When you take a DNA test you never see black or white. But you see different Jews which is arguably not a race. My African DNA has never changed but the Caucasian DNA has changed several times. All DNA matches were listed by countries not a color or religion. I understand ancestry is for entertainment but it does match DNA of related people. Great video! 👍🏾

[@dieselphiend]

I honestly don't know of a poorer more disenfranchised group of people that those who live in The Appalachian Mountains. There is literally still homes with dirt floors. The most rundown homes you've ever seen in your life. The kind of poverty you won't see anywhere else. Not that reality is the poverty olympics or something.

[@samgould288]

We are governed by race and class. At the top of these institutions are a privileges few and depending on your race and class will determines your position within these institutions . Divide and rule the masses has been used by the elite for centuries.

[@shewhomustbobeyed1]

Totally agreed👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@sillysil2006]

We don't question this because most people benefit from it!

[@kingnick6260]

Most people within the US don’t even know their heritage, outside of a DNA test. Black or white. Excluding those with ancestors who migrated in the 20th century

[@denisse37921]

I'm sorry but I don't think u understand the point of this paper. I can see your heart is in the right place & are trying to understand it by saying that we need to stop w/ the crayola names; but the writer is trying to push a message to the audience & she is basically spelling it out for those that "just don't get it". The reason for the color names is bcz the targeted audience is in denial of the colors they claim to not see until it's convenient. So the words aren't meant to be PC or historically accurate. Peggy is just saying it like it is already in their heads and she's trying to remove that denied racism in hopes to put a stop to negative, ignorant & uncomfortable conversations. I hope that helps cz she's keeping it real whatever her race may be. Thanks for all u do.

[@nytn]

She had some great points. I did disagree with some though

[@vanessareedhawaiinani]

I’m trying to follow this video and I’m trying to understand your point of you because I am a woman colour a lot of stuff going on with this because a lot of people and people speak on it

[@fixieroy]

So maybe we need more accurate terms to replace the color system language/framework. Should we only use Ethnicity..

[@zaroliina]

But why you need you identify it formally or public? Isn’t nationality enough if you need a label.

[@L0u15eM1che11e]

I understand that Englishmen changed their name to White when they started slavery and imported racism I don’t have the source but from what I understand from your video it was done for legal status…. So these are terms made by people we wouldn’t want to associate with in my humble. They can keep the term.

[@NEMBL013]

Have you done a video on the one drop rule and current blood quantum views/policies in North Americas and how that is maybe effecting the mental health of those who identify with their othered ancestors who were POC?

[@tigerstallion]

or who is perpetuating the one drop, blood quantum, race category views?

[@Percept2024]

Danielle , you received a rather harsh critique under "@anthonywest`s" comment. You might want to respond to it ?? Somehow , if I leave a response to a nasty commenter , MY comment gets removed.

[@nytn]

I’ll have to look. I get a lot of comments and don’t check them all!

[@Lakersman24]

I must disagree with your characterization of white. White is a race. It isn’t an ethnicity. Black is a race.. it isn’t an ethnicity. I hope that makes sense.

[@Draco_Alpha]

that's how i think of it too... ethnicities could also be considered subraces, such as Spanish, German, Xhosa, Aboriginal, Korean, Chinese, etc. for example: i'm 100% White, but have a mix of Germanic/Nordic and Celtic ethnicities in me.

[@susandevinenapoli7649]

I found that some ancestors from Lithuania made it in the country meeting this rule in the first hundred years. A second ancestor a was noted as Indian and noted as boro man by an adult child on a marriage document. I would not have looked without getting a DNA test.