Historian Reacts to Gettysburg's Best Scenes

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History Gone Wilder | Have History Will Travel

History Gone Wilder | Have History Will Travel

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The Movie Gettysburg is still one of the most iconic Civil War movies ever created. Have you ever wondered how historically accurate it is? I will be tackling the movie Gettysburg’s best scenes (for historical accuracy and points of interest from a historical perspective). I will have a worst scene video coming out in the coming weeks so stay tuned for that one. As always if you want to support the channel, please subscribe and you can also join the patreon page and vote on which video you would like to see next.
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@IrishPennant0311
@IrishPennant0311 4 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is, a “Gettysburg” could never be made again. Most of the soldiers were unpaid re-enactors, and I’ve seen nothing but signs that civil war re-enactors are dying off.
@charlietheanteater3918
@charlietheanteater3918 4 жыл бұрын
KnifeHand03 Especially with the covid out break. Even before the virus reenacting was already on its last leg (at least in my state of Illinois). The largest civil war re-enactment in my state in wakanda (yes I’m not making that name up there is a town called wakanda). It was shut down due to the displays of the confederate flag. Lol who are the union soldiers supposed to fight? I sincerely don’t understand why people are offended by re-enactments, I completely understand why they would be by confederate statues or confederate flags flying in state capitals, but in re-enactments? It’s a living history demonstration, a perfect place to learn about the battles, why are they considered problematic? I’m not of those lost causers, but I think that’s just kind of ridiculous. Not only are re-enactments racist, but now they are dangerous to the public. They exceeded sometimes over 1000 people in my state, which is a big no no during these times. It won’t be right away but overtime it’ll phase out and will unfortunately only be a memory.
@xotl2780
@xotl2780 4 жыл бұрын
Lemme reassure you and say that as long as there are costumes people will be happy to put them on and play around.
@retriever19golden55
@retriever19golden55 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. This movie is just wonderful! I'm so grateful to all the reenactors who put their lives on hold to be a part of this, the movie couldn't have been made without them; it was a true labor of love. I find it very sad that so many reenactments which had been going on for years have had to shut down, not just this year because of the pandemic, but permanently because of falling attendance, and because some of the accoutrements used by Confederate units are now looked upon as politically incorrect. Their flag was co-opted by the KKK which came later; it was never meant to be a symbol of hatred, but of regional pride. Reenacting our history is an important tool for teaching it and reminding people that those who fought, whether they fell or survived, were all real people who suffered. My only complaint about the movie, aside from the infamous fake beards, is there was no coverage of the East Cavalry Field Fight, where George Armstrong Custer and his Michigan cavalry shone so brightly driving off Jeb Stuart and his much larger force of cavalry, which had been considered invincible until then. Unfortunately, Michael Shaara didn't include that part of the battle in his excellent book, The Killer Angels, so it could hardly have been a part of the film. The book and film did so much for the public's knowledge and reverence for Chamberlain, perhaps it could have helped rehabilitate Custer's public image... most people know zero about him except the battle that he lost.
@twowheeledwireman282
@twowheeledwireman282 4 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been in the hobby of living history for 15 years and many people have gotten out. But, I have seen an influx of many incredibly historical accurate groups that keep the hobby going.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the support.
@LoganBeaupre
@LoganBeaupre 4 жыл бұрын
Great job with this video. My only criticism as far as production goes is that I had to listen to the clips from the movie on 100% volume while transitioning back to your narration at nearly 15% volume, which was pretty close to obnoxiously loud when I hadn't lowered the volume yet. As usual though, great job, and thank you for the well put together video.
@Ralphieboy
@Ralphieboy 3 ай бұрын
They wanted a decisive "Napoeonic" battle like Waterloo. But what they forget is that Europe's armies had literally decades of experience in campaigning and fighting before that decisive battle, the American armies had a most a few years' experience at the time of Gettysburg, others just a few weeks or months.
@rockjohnson7980
@rockjohnson7980 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally someone that recognized that “Rock of Ages” is being played during Stuart’s return. I’ve always wondered if that was intentional. It was not just his favorite hymn, but the one that Stuart requested to hear as he was on his death bed the following year.
@retriever19golden55
@retriever19golden55 4 жыл бұрын
Whether the production team knew it or not, the musician reenactors certainly did! As I also expect Ted Turner and Ken Burns did.
@hddun
@hddun 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Biblical SLAM by Longstreet (Berenger)-"Ah, the return of the prodigal son" which is a reference in the Bible of the son who spends all of his inheritance on wine, women, etc. but returns to his "proud papa"..I liked the scene where Lee gives him the "Come to Jesus" asskicking. It was deserved-he might have be hanged for his negligence.
@bonkersmcgee4356
@bonkersmcgee4356 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of several tunes I from the movie that I wish were isolated on the soundtrack. There's a scene where Tom talks to some confederate POWs and someone is playing a haunting version of My Old Kentucky Home on fiddle I believe. There's another scene that escapes me, but I think it was Hancock on horseback watching a morning church service with the troops, looked like it was a catholic thing. Whatever the fife and drums were playing was great.
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 3 жыл бұрын
This is historically correct. A favorite song or hymn would be played by the army band when a certain General of the staff would arrive at HQ. This would also alert everyone within earshot, including the officer in command, that General was in the camp. In this case everyone knows that General Stuart had arrived. This way the Chief of Staff wouldn't have to group text everyone's cell phone (this last sentence may not be historically accurate).
@markkringle9144
@markkringle9144 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't seen it, check out the Utube video from the Army War Collage on "Why Stuart ends up in Carlisle. "
@Lindyhopin
@Lindyhopin 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but it was difficult to hear the clips from the movie. Very quiet.
@HenryVandenburgh
@HenryVandenburgh 3 жыл бұрын
"Say again..." which Lee says at one point, is military radio talk form the mid-20th Century on. Not something someone in the 1860s would say. Jarring
@jonathanziegler8126
@jonathanziegler8126 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished a historical-novel-biography of Meade at Gettysburg: Without Warning: The Saga of Gettysburg, A Reluctant Union Hero, and the Men He Inspired. By Pierce. After reading that, and another couple of historical works on Gettysburg, it is amazing what Meade accomplished. If I have any criticism of the film Gettysburg, it would be that in the four hours of movie, the winning general has one line. United States history owes him his due.
@huddlechannel2932
@huddlechannel2932 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite scene has always been Stuart arriving, with the band playing Rock of Ages, because I love that hyhm. I never knew I shared that with Stuart.
@1roanstephen
@1roanstephen 4 жыл бұрын
Always more. Your presentations are top notch and I wait anxiously for your next video.
@dennisgreen4215
@dennisgreen4215 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Gettysburg is IMHO one of the best movies about a real battle. Obviously, they couldn't cover EVERYTHING (it would take hundreds of hours!), but I thought their focus was excellent. Thank you for this, and I am looking forward to more.
@thomast8539
@thomast8539 4 жыл бұрын
The film only covered what was covered in the novel. So often movies tightly hold their scope to the written material on which they are based.
@randysheetz690
@randysheetz690 4 жыл бұрын
If you can find it, I suggest getting the Turner edition with other footage added in that makes the film about 4 hours long and does for the story what the director's cut of Dances With Wolves does. I livred in the area when the movie was made and let me tell you the cabbob barrage for Pickett's charge was DEAFENING!!!
@americanschweitzer45
@americanschweitzer45 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! I love these reviews you do on some of our favorite Civil War pictures!
@wdavis6814
@wdavis6814 2 жыл бұрын
People shit on Gods and Generals, but the book does do a FANTASTIC job setting the stage for The Killer Angels.
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 3 жыл бұрын
Those ariel helicopter shots of the artillery barrage and the Confederates preparing to make their suicide march is always so awesome to see.
@danielarevalo6222
@danielarevalo6222 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. Im not American, but i saw the movie many years ago. So incapsulated I became in this conflict that I began to read evrything I could. From Manassas to Appomatox is my favourite due to its contraversy around Lonsgtreets conduct during this particular battle whch i know you have your stated views on it. Thank you once again
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@rayhughel1508
@rayhughel1508 4 жыл бұрын
Very likely that if you are tuned in to this channel you already know: IT IS ONE OF THE BEST! It’s like belonging to a Civil War Roundtable group and having an amazing chairman begin the meeting with incredible opening remarks every time we gather. Kudos sir!! Everyone needs to tell at least 3 friend to subscribe.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
I think Sheen did a good job. Lee was a energetic man but supposedly was sick at Gettysburg. That's why he acts the way he does in the book and movie. A heart problem does change a man, I've seen it personally change people significantly. Whether it's really true or not, about Lee, nobody knows. There is one account from a soldier saying Lee barely had the energy to dismount his horse at the end of the day 3. Perhaps this is reflected at the campfire scene where Lee is exhausted and in dispair. The weakness only shown to Longstreet where he says " I'm going to need your help pete" .
@davidshildt5604
@davidshildt5604 2 жыл бұрын
One Hell of a Movie Live wright down the road from it
@shadowseeker7567
@shadowseeker7567 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that movie… only wish they would have included the cavalry battle that took place same time as Picket’s charge.. the Custer charge against General Stuart’s cavalry.
@jagsdomain203
@jagsdomain203 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Do you know much about the music? Did they carry bands with them?
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 4 жыл бұрын
Lee's discussion with Longstreet about the aim of the battle...is, IMO, one of the few good scenes in the film. It succinctly, and more to the point, ACCURATELY portrays Lee's goal for the battle. So much of the film is Lost Cause mythology crap. 'Going to the right' in discussions during 2nd of July 1863, does NOT mean the same thing as 'going to the right' as discussed by Longstreet in his memoirs from the 1880s. Lee's orders of the day WERE to crush the left flank of the Union army. That flank sitting precariously in the air south of Cemetary Ridge (not yet extended as far as the Round Tops). Lee knew that the weak point of the line was the swale just NORTH of Little Round Top, and ordered Longstreet to direct his attack at that point. Hood was annoyed that his orders did not reflect the danger to his men from being FLANKED by Union forces if they should choose to occupy the broken ground west of the Little Round Top and that any artillery placed on the Top could take the main CSA attack on the swale in the flank. Therefore Hood would have to BOTH attack towards the swale AND attack a tough position to ensure flank security. He didn't have the men or the firepower. He wanted the attack focus to shift south so that he could better take care of the potential danger. But Longstreet had already ordered his attack to echelon to the NORTH. Meaning that he couldn't possibly redirect the entire attack so easily. I also think the film misses an important piece of recent history when assessing the 'why' of Pickets charge. Mere months earlier, at Chancellorsville, when a flank attack had failed to crush the enemy but had inflicted enormous damage. A concentrated offensive at the Union center (repulsed)...DID convince the Federals to withdraw. Pickett's charge had successful precedent in the recent past. Lee had no way to know that the Union Army retreated based on the fears of a concussed senior general against the wishes of the majority of his command staff.
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 4 жыл бұрын
Where the hell have you been? Refreshing to hear from someone who understands the "whys and wherefores." Getting tired of the "lost causers" ridiculous "what ifs and buts!"
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 4 жыл бұрын
@@USGrant-rr2by, heh. Working from home and quarantine gives me a lot more time to troll youtube comment boards...
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 4 жыл бұрын
@@dclark142002 I've been furloughed since March! I never realized how many of these lost cause idiots are out there. And even worse, that they actually believe their own propaganda? It's a little scary with the current situation. You seem very well versed in CW history. At least militarily speaking. Well, happy trolling.
@tnt-hv6qw
@tnt-hv6qw 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 give that man an oscar for that one. thank you Virginian that made my day. excellent. u can keep em coming for as i’m concerned. have a great weekend. i keep forgetting to vote. my bad hero.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I will be doing these historical break downs more often.
@tnt-hv6qw
@tnt-hv6qw 4 жыл бұрын
Have History Will Travel cool hero. thanks again.
@sassiebrat
@sassiebrat 4 жыл бұрын
The sound is off. If I turn up the volume for the movie scenes, then, when you come back, it blasts the windows out!
@davidnicholas7516
@davidnicholas7516 3 жыл бұрын
You showed several scenes from the movie, and commented favorably on several of the actors, notably the men who played Chamberlain and Hancock. The guy who played Hancock is (if I understand it correctly) a Broadway theater actor, and this (and Gods and Generals) is his only film appearance. Jeff Daniels is of course better known. My one quibble with you however is that you showed the scene when Longstreet and Hood argue about the flanking attack. For one t hing, I've always thought this was somewhat of a pipe dream. Maybe it's just me, but the Confederates were already outnumbered. Spreading out to flank the Federals while leaving those Federals concentrated, and the whole thing takes place far inside Pennsylvania? *Maybe* this would work, but you also have the possibility of Hood's division getting isolated and destroyed, but arriving Federal units, or reserves the Confederates couldn't see behind Cemetary Ridge (remember they were pretty limited as to what they knew). Regardless, my biggest quibble with the scene isn't the dialog, it's the guy playing Hood. I'm sure he is/was a fine actor, but he's about 20 years too old to play the role of John Bell Hood, who was in his early 30s at the time of Gettysburg, and famously vigorous and energetic, in addition to being pretty physically intimidating. I have no idea why they did this, but it is one of my biggest gripes about the movie.
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 3 жыл бұрын
People in Hollywood who direct and produce(and no I don't mean Ted Turner who put up most of the money) these "historic" movies only give a shit about one thing, making money. They don't really care about historical accuracy. They almost NEVER listen to their "historical advisors". Why? Because most of the time REAL HISTORY is BORING! I will say...you know your shit. There was absolutely NO REASON to not have a younger actor portray Hood! I would love to ask the director why? It would be a pathetic excuse.
@michellejean11
@michellejean11 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation as usual.
@zzbudzz
@zzbudzz 3 жыл бұрын
I believe my grandfathers grandfather fought at Gettysburg in the 61st Virginia Infantry. His unit was there and he signed up early in the war and fought until his was "paroled" at Appomattox court house. I wish I could find out more about his unit.
@lexevo
@lexevo 3 жыл бұрын
There was only 1 way to win the war for the confederates. Most importantly, save the 30,000 men from Vicksburg and keep that line open to Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana. Second part, to fight defensively and draw the war out long enough to lose support for the war. Get Lincoln voted out or even make him give it up. With Vicksburg saved and his elite men from Picketts, and Hoods not slaughtered he would most likely be able to hold the war and cause more Fredericksburgs. Taking Washington was what he thought was his only hope. This might not have stopped the war. But it makes sense why he decided to push forward rather then break off Longstreet to save Vicksburg. Maybe with Jackson. They would’ve came to 1 of these conclusions. Maybe even free the slaves to gain England’s support. But that might be far fetched.
@robertschmidt7879
@robertschmidt7879 3 жыл бұрын
I have not seen the worst of video, so I may be speaking ahead or out of school. Chamberlain never would have met with Hancock. Sykes, commanding the fifth corps, would have been livid that a regimental commander of his was speaking to a commander of a different corps
@genes.3285
@genes.3285 3 жыл бұрын
Chamberlain was a professor of rhetoric. After the war, he used his skills in the English language to blow out of proportion his contribution to the battle. Not that he wasn't important. He was, but there were others on Day 2 for which little is said. Up until the 1993 movie came out, the area defended by the 20th Maine had not even been marked. He also lived for decades. Even if the 15th Alabama had taken LRT, it couldn't have held it for long. There were just too many Union troops in the immediate area, including the 5th and 6th corps.
@johnwood9349
@johnwood9349 4 жыл бұрын
Could Ewell have taken Cemetary Ridge on the late afternoon of Day 1? I examined the spot myself. If taken could he have held it given the Union Army was approaching in mass? There many factors to consider. I am a devoted fan.
@ChicagoZini
@ChicagoZini 4 жыл бұрын
Even if he did, I believe the Federals had good defensive ground upon which to fall back on. They may have been able to get some artillery up there, but to attack from there may have yielded the same results. The Union lines were to good. Just my opinion.
@Korkzorz
@Korkzorz 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance you'd consider reuploading this where the audio is normalized? Right now if I want to hear the movie audio your voice almost hurts my ear because it will be too loud.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely can do that.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for checking out my channel.
@Korkzorz
@Korkzorz 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryGoneWilder I think the content is excellent :). Thanks for your quick response, I will watch the video when it's reuploaded.
@louisduplessis1730
@louisduplessis1730 4 жыл бұрын
Great. It does seems as if the sound during the film footage is very soft.
@madshansen8612
@madshansen8612 Жыл бұрын
Good video. But The audio from The movie is Much lower Then your comments audio. 😊
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder Жыл бұрын
I'm going to update this video where I will correct the audio. Thank you so much for watching. Please check out my other videos.
@hvymettle
@hvymettle 4 жыл бұрын
Given that the movie Gettysburg is based on a work of historical fiction, "The Killer Angels," it is the basis for the understanding of the battle that most Americans have. As such, many myths have become accepted fact for a lot of people, Stuart left Lee blind, Buford saved the high ground for the Union, Lee should have listened to Longstreet and gone around the Round Tops, and Chamberlain and the 20th Maine saved the Union left. The 20th Maine and 15th Alabama had a good fight, no doubt, but even had the Alabamians dislodged the 20th Maine from their position, the 15th was a spent force, having marched 30 miles already that day to reach the battlefield, gone right into action without filled canteens, no artillery support, low on ammunition with no resupply available, and Union reserves flooding to the left. The threat to the Union left is overstated, the Alabamians would have been swatted away. A tactical turning movement around the Round Tops would have put Longstreet into a cul de sac, with the Round Tops boxing in his left flank and Rock Creek on his right with the Union V Corps in a blocking position where the Baltimore Pike crosses Rock Creek. The VI would be arriving on his right flank and Sickle's with no pressure in front redeployed to attack his left. Longstreet would have a narrow front, no room to maneuver, limited scope for artillery. If the Confederates had gone around the left, they would have never come back. A strategic turning movement around the left to some undisclosed ground between Meade and DC sounds great, but what ground would that be? Meade was closer to DC on interior lines and had control of the Taneytown Rd., Baltimore Pike and Littlestown Pike. Lee was on exterior lines and would be moving his army off across Meade's active front. Longstreet would have to assume a blocking position across the Emmitsburg Rd. while Ewell and Hill moved out the Fairfield Rd. Heading in that direction, the only good ground is behind the Monocacy River in front of Frederick. But that doesn't put Lee between Meade and DC, and Meade could just dig in on the other side of the river and wait for Lee to run out of supplies instead of attacking. Lee's plan had been to draw the AoP north and fall on a piece of it before it was concentrated, evening the odds, and increasing the threat to DC. Hooker had kept the AoP fairly concentrated between Lee and DC in a blocking position at Frederick. To disperse the Union army along a broader front, Lee had Ewell move towards Carlisle with Early sent to York. On a map, Meade had to figure that Lee was either going to concentrate at Gettysburg for a move south towards Emittsburg or at York, from which point Baltimore and DC were threatened. Upon taking over, Meade dispersed the army along the broad front of the Pipe Creek Line to cover both approaches. Lee had sent Stuart around the Union army to link up with Early at York to sell the feint that Lee was concentrating at York. Given that mission, it is unreasonable to assume that Lee expected Stuart to report to him about when the AoP started crossing the Potomac. On June 25th, Lee received a report from Col. E.V. White that he had clashed with Union cavalry at Point of Rocks, Md. and that the Federals had pontoon bridges laid at Edward's Ferry. That would have told Lee that he could expect the AoP to begin crossing by the 26th. Howard reported clashes with Confederate cavalry in the Middleton Valley on the 27th, most likely with members of the 35th Va Battalion, left behind by White to outpost the South Mountain passes. Stuart fulfilled the mission he was assigned. He was later turned into a scapegoat to remove any blame from Lee. Buford's job was to locate Lee's main body, not to select the ground upon which the Union army would fight. By high ground, Buford is referring to Cemetery Hill as the key position in the Gettysburg area. From a military point of view, why would Cemetery Hill be an objective that Lee would want and Buford should deprive him of it? For Lee, Cemetery Hill would not be a good position for his army. The AoP, marching up the Taneytown Rd. and Baltimore Pike would be on his flank. Or Meade could just occupy the Wolf Hill Ridge to the east, stay between Lee and DC, and wait out Lee's next move. So Lee's objective was not a piece of ground, he wanted a piece of the AoP. Moreover, Lee wanted to lure the AoP onto the open plains west of town where he could apply his classic "L" formation to envelop and destroy that part of the AoP that was up. Heth was the fixing force at the foot of the L and Ewell was supposed to be the enveloping force. Buford's morning fight with Heth turned out to be not much of an engagement as Buford suffered only 3 casualties. Heth was not really pressing him, he was waiting for the Union infantry to come up, otherwise he could have just pushed Buford out of his way any time he wanted to. Buford suffered the bulk of his 125 casualties in his afternoon fight with Lane's Brigade during the Confederate assault on Seminary Ridge. In all, he suffered less than 5% casualties, very light for Civil War combat. Lee's plan fell short because he was expecting Ewell to have all three of his divisions available for the flank attack on the Union right but Johnson's division was late getting to the battlefield and Lee had to substitute Pender's division which had to conduct a costly frontal assault on Seminary Ridge. Buford was a good soldier, but most of his dialog in the movie is apocryphal, it never happened.
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 4 жыл бұрын
May I inquire as to your sources for this rather interesting presentation? I'm not saying I disagree with it. But you have presented certain points that I am not completely familiar with pertaining to the run up to the battle itself.
@tarsitano66
@tarsitano66 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice one...!👍🏻
@adamwee382
@adamwee382 8 күн бұрын
Idk what it was but Gettysburg had some magic that Gods and Generals just didn't. I actually don't mind the "lost cause" portrayal of Gods and Generals, it doesn't bother me even though I'm heavily in favor of the Union. Gettysburg being a much more concentrated film makes it so much easier to understand what's going on, and what's at stake. Gods and Generals was a bit too ambitious, I think you'd have to make a series in order to properly cover all the events. I will say this though, I greatly preferred Stephen Lang as Stonewall Jackson in God's and Generals than as General Pickett in Gettysburg. It might have to do with Jackson being the more interesting character, but either way, Gods and Generals got some things right.
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 жыл бұрын
...bad hats...I don't think I have ever seen in any contemporary pictures (Sullivan, Gardiner, et alia) any hats that look like the new romantic Stetsons that all the officers seem to have been given by the wardrobe department
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 жыл бұрын
they are also very clean... a few days march would have taken all that newness and starch out of their clothes
@jeffcotton2235
@jeffcotton2235 Жыл бұрын
To have Martin Sheen portray Lee was an extreme disservice. Lee was over 6 ft. tall, Sheen... maybe 5'6" or so. The portrayal of Hood was bad casting too.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder Жыл бұрын
General Lee was 5' 10''. I do agree, although he is a good actor, Hood looked too old in the film. He was in his early 30s at Gettysburg.
@johngotti4286
@johngotti4286 11 ай бұрын
He’s 5’7 Martin
@michaelcarney6280
@michaelcarney6280 3 жыл бұрын
Think Gettysburg is the 2nd greatest Nopoleonic type film after Waterloo.
@derekgraham6749
@derekgraham6749 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big history buff myself, especially about the Civil War. The one thing that you brought up that I've never understood. Is why both sides thought there would be one big battle of annihilation? nothing that I can think of in the American Experience of War up to that point had been anything like that. So why did they have that opinion?
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 4 жыл бұрын
It was the South's only real hope. Lee needed to win big enough that the North would stop trying to invade. If he failed...what other options did he actually have? As far as I am aware, the only other option is to adopt the Fabian strategy he uses post Gettysburg. Dig in, and try to fight from a guerilla campaign...but that imposes an inability to protect the people of the south from the invasion. Lee wanted a victory. And the best way to win the war was to convince the north that the cost was too high and they did not have the means to invade. He failed. Still does not change his aim.
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 4 жыл бұрын
It was also because all the leading generals of the war went to West Point, both sides, where they all studied Jomini's principles of War! One of which was to try and destroy your enemy's army in one grand battle.
@thesouthernhistorian4153
@thesouthernhistorian4153 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh Gettysburg my most favorite civil war film an amazing depiction on both sides it doesn’t make one side good or bad it shows both sides are brothers, that both sides were Americans through and through
@MrJoebrooklyn1969
@MrJoebrooklyn1969 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still amazed that the rifle was invented in the 1850s but they were still using muskets.
@63DW89A
@63DW89A 3 жыл бұрын
Rifles were invented by the Swiss in the 1500's. The Muskets used during the Civil War were "Rifled Muskets" in.58 caliber firing the "Minie Bullet". The Minie Bullet was hollow based and under sized to be as rapidly loaded as the smoothbore muskets, while the hollow base expanded upon firing to allow the Minie to grip the barrel rifling to spin for accurate shooting.
@zackhartley4718
@zackhartley4718 3 жыл бұрын
Hood should of been played by a younger actor, since he was only 33. I think a lot of people forget how young he was. He had no business in my opinion being an over all Army General later in the war. Good Brigade commander, decent Division commander but commanding an Army was over his head..
@karlmoles6530
@karlmoles6530 4 жыл бұрын
The weaponry did outpace the tactics my friend. Great video though.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have a video arguing against that. Check it out, I think you may enjoy it.
@karlmoles6530
@karlmoles6530 4 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryGoneWilder Will do. Always enjoy debating fellow Historians.
@yeoldegunporn
@yeoldegunporn 4 жыл бұрын
This movie is "the devil is in the details". It's so detailed and "correct" but still so boring and inauthentic. Like I wish so bad it was more watchable.
@chasemurraychristopherdola7108
@chasemurraychristopherdola7108 4 жыл бұрын
Just saying but my favorite scenes in the movie Gettysburg has to be the scenes on little round top and the reason is because those scenes were shot on the property of my 4x great grandfather Jacob weikert who’s house and barn was used as a Union field hospital and like I know that my 3x great grandfather and grandma were living in the house while their house was being built and I know my 4x great aunt Rebecca aka Becca and my 4x great uncle David Martin Luther weikert was living there at the time of the battle along with my 4x great aunt Henrietta who’s Husband my 4x great uncle George Washington Shriver was serving in the union army and sadly he was captured on New Year’s Day and taking to Andersonville prison where he sadly passed away but I know my 4x great cousins molly and Sadie who sadly both died young and her neighbor the famous Tillie Pierce Alleman where at my 4x great grandfathers house and supriseingly my 4x great aunt Henriettas attic was used as a confederate sharpshooters nest and I also know that my 4x great aunt Rebeccas Future Husband George Kitzmiller who served valiantly in the ranks of Company K of the famous First Pennsylvania Reserves Infantry regiment was fighting during the battle of Gettysburg and this might scare some people but my 4x great grandfather was threatened by a Union soldier for hidding a crank for a well that was nearby
@44WillysMB
@44WillysMB 3 жыл бұрын
Need to work on sound balance between clips,and narration.
@lewdachris7721
@lewdachris7721 Жыл бұрын
This movie just becomes confederate propaganda at the end especially
@gonzalosirera7103
@gonzalosirera7103 4 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@tjstrong3607
@tjstrong3607 4 жыл бұрын
Im a Rebel I guess, but the Union side did a better job in this movie I think, acting wise. Didn't like Martin Sheen as RE Lee at all. (Robert Duvall was excellent in Gods & Generals)-- but there were times you felt the soldier mindset in this Movie.
@tobyoneil1969
@tobyoneil1969 4 жыл бұрын
Is a bad scene when Lee is scolding Stuart?
@tobyoneil1969
@tobyoneil1969 4 жыл бұрын
@Joakim von Anka yeah because Stuart didnt just leave of his own accord and lee put himself in that situation but god that part in the movie when Lee goes nuts at him because of what "he" did is off.
@tobyoneil1969
@tobyoneil1969 4 жыл бұрын
@Joakim von Anka Thats the thing. The movie makes it look like Stuart up and rode off when ever he wanted to. Without orders for anything, where in reality, lee gave him orders to go ahead. Look up the scene, Lee gets livid at Stuart.
@wmschooley1234
@wmschooley1234 4 жыл бұрын
Lee had cavalry that he didn’t use effectively. Before Stewart undertook his famous ride around the union army, he detached and left two brigades of cavalry. One under General Beverly Robertson and another under General William “Grumble” Jones. During the Gettysburg Campaign, General Robertson commanded a brigade of two North Carolina cavalry regiments. General Jones commanded the Virginia "Laurel brigade," which consisted entirely of Virginians. I n addition, Lee had General Albert Jenkins brigade Even without Stewarts three brigade, in total, Lee, still had nearly five thousand cavalrymen still attached to the Army of Northern Virginia. It was Lee’s decision to distrust and refuse to work with these cavalry commanders Lee chose not to use these brigades and waited for Stewart’s return that was the core of Lee’s cavalry problem at Gettysburg. Also remember the the 100 union wagons Stewart captured on his ride around were used to transport the wounded on Lee’s retreat from Gettysburg. Just one more example of Lee’s disastrous invasion planning
@kevinrby1982
@kevinrby1982 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't hear half of it.
@holyshibata5764
@holyshibata5764 4 жыл бұрын
Gods and Generals next?
@danorthsidemang3834
@danorthsidemang3834 9 ай бұрын
This was the moment I knew Professor Jabroni was full of horse crap.
@JimBro317
@JimBro317 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a version of this where the film's audio can be heard.
@shiningstaer
@shiningstaer 4 жыл бұрын
Why? It was the worst general lee ever. General is estevas
@JimBro317
@JimBro317 4 жыл бұрын
@@shiningstaer I just want to hear what they're saying, is why. What is estevas?
@notfromthisworld7672
@notfromthisworld7672 3 жыл бұрын
@@JimBro317 He's just being a dumbass talking about Martin Sheen... I thought Sheen played Lee well...
@BenFaffler
@BenFaffler 2 жыл бұрын
Subtitles, very simple.
@JimBro317
@JimBro317 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenFaffler Good, but I like to watch what's happening on the screen-facial expressions, uniforms, various details.
@rayhughel1508
@rayhughel1508 4 жыл бұрын
Very likely that if you are tuned in to this channel you already know: IT IS ONE OF THE BEST! It’s like belonging to a Civil War Roundtable group and having an amazing chairman begin the meeting with incredible opening remarks every time we gather. Kudos sir!! Everyone needs to tell at least 3 friend to subscribe.
@jwwilban
@jwwilban 3 жыл бұрын
I participated in the 1998 Gettysburg re-enactment. It was the largest and truly most incredible Civil War event ever held. We actually had reenactors from all over the world. Our unit picked up a large group of Austrians at Dulles Airport to participate. During Pickett’s Charge, the Confederates had more troops in the attack than Lee actually physically had. Our more than 15,000 attacked over 10,000 Federal troops defending Cemetery Ridge. The video of it is on KZbin, well worth watching.
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv 3 ай бұрын
The first known battle where air transport came to the rescue.
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 4 жыл бұрын
I think Martin Sheen played an excellent role as General R.E. Lee..
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 4 жыл бұрын
You are brave to say that. I know a lot of people disliked the way he portrayed Lee, but I am more like you, I enjoyed Martin Sheen, mainly because of his demeanor. Robert Duvall was a little too quiet to give an accurate portrayal. Although Lee could be restrained, he was an energetic man if that makes sense. I think combining Duvall and Sheen's portrayal would have been perfect.
@dukeman7595
@dukeman7595 4 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryGoneWilder I agree, however, Sheen, captured the essence of Lee, and was very passionate in his delivery. Duvall, is one of my favorite actors, much more so than Sheen, but Sheen, nailed it in my opinion..
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard a rumor that Sheen needed to be coerced into portraying Gen. Lee as he was afraid that he couldn't do the character justice.
@johnfoster535
@johnfoster535 4 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryGoneWilder That you are drawing attention to the battle of Gettysburg and the people involved in it is greatly appreciated and is greatly commendable !! My opinion is that Lee in real life.......being six feet tall.....possessed more of a "bearing" than the diminutive Sheen could convey. Lee's figure and manner were imposing to most people, as they themselves were shorter than the average man of today......many were just five feet tall. Even the victor Grant described Lee as being " difficult to approach". Lee had the aura and charisma of a Charlton Heston type character......no one has ever come close to capturing the real Lee in film. Though one of his closest aides said Lee could sometimes speak with the "softness of a woman", there was no doubt of his forcefulness after what he did to rally the Texans at Spotsylvania Courthouse in 1864 !! The movie Gettysburg is greatly flawed....being based on Longstreet's " From Manassas to Appomattox", on which " Killer Angels" was based. Longstreet's deliberate tardiness on July 2nd and 3rd, causing Lee to fume in his saddle for hours, is well documented and was known to be the chief cause of defeat, as Meade now could reinforce areas with troops who should have been occupied elsewhere. " Pickett's Charge" was a desperate plan conceived by Lee as the result of Longstreet's failure to be able to attack early in the morning of July 3rd. The outright failure of Longstreet to insure that Alexander, Pendleton, and Walton provided covering, counter artillery fire during the infantry charge by Pickett/ Pettigrew is not focused on as a major cause of defeat in the movie...which it WAS ! Glenn Tucker's analysis in his book on the battle is brilliant and is recommended. Gettysburg was NO accident....Lee had spies in the town weeks before. Lee's plan to draw out the Union army in a long arc worked brilliantly....where he could pounce on each arriving Union corps in succession, using his concentrated forces that would converge from all directions on the five major roadways that went into town. Only delays and tardiness, which would allow Union troops to arrive and take position, could ruin his plan.......exactly what DID happen !!.....and not fairly shown in the movie. Lee was no dummy, having whipped all previous Union commanders although outnumbered, and even thrashing Grant in the Wilderness and Cold Harbor despite overwhelming odds against him in 1864. Duvall was related to Lee, but, he also could not capture the General properly. I always thought Robin Williams looked very close to Grant and would have been perfect, esp. with his own addiction problems, to portray Grant in a movie. However, I can't think of anyone who could do a proper Lee portrayal......that's how uncommon he was !
@thomast8539
@thomast8539 4 жыл бұрын
As did I. I think the additional standouts were Sam Elliott, Stephen Lang, Tom Berenger, James Patrick Stuart and of course, Jeff Daniels.
@gehmangang8006
@gehmangang8006 4 жыл бұрын
The 20th Maine charge down Little Round Top brings me to tears every time. Visited that mountaintop myself a half dozen times just to imagine how it must have felt.
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv
@DouglasLyons-yg3lv 3 ай бұрын
It’s always fun when someone asks why Buster Kilrain isn’t mentioned on the 20th Maine’s monument.
@brucewelty7684
@brucewelty7684 4 жыл бұрын
The vast discrepancies in audio ruined this. You were WAY to loud and the implanted scenes were unintelligible.
@user-tl5fi9lz9z
@user-tl5fi9lz9z 4 жыл бұрын
I was in this movie.
@55JMJW
@55JMJW 4 жыл бұрын
That’s so dope. Literally one of my favorite movies. I can only imagine how it was to film.
@jeffersonthomas1269
@jeffersonthomas1269 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Smith how are you doing?? I worked in the movie for 7 months or so. I slept in the tents at first and then moved to the girl scout camp. I use to take care of the one director type dude at night...I can not recall his name, but he kept getting in trouble going out and misbehaving at night. What was that guys name?? Anyways, I worked in the hand to hand combat crew getting killed ten times a day. I was there the day the 20th Maine marched out at the beginning of the video and that morning they came and told us "No rebels today" "Everyone is toi dress as Yanks go pull Yank uniforms for yourselves NOW" Only myself and three other men refused to suit as Yanks and thus they threatened to fire us. We were core crew and good Rebels so they backed down after we stood our ground and told us that the 3 of us could be prisoners. I have hundreds of stories about the movie. Did you work as a one day volunteer? Or were you core?? There 85 men in the core crew. We got paid $50 a day, $300 paid on Saturday. I am looking for a promotional poster that had me and two other Rebels going over the stone wall at the angle..the high water mark of the Confederacy as some call it. I am in the three for I was in Armistead's Brigade. We had to slow down so that he could keep up with us. That sucked because it made it look lousy and unreal. If you know anything about promotional posters please let me know. Thanks !!~!!!~!! David Brewer is my real name.
@jeffersonthomas1269
@jeffersonthomas1269 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Smith I just subscribed to your channel to make it easy for you to find me.
@user-tl5fi9lz9z
@user-tl5fi9lz9z 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffersonthomas1269 I don't have a channel.
@user-tl5fi9lz9z
@user-tl5fi9lz9z 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffersonthomas1269 I was just a re-enactor from New York State who came to be a part of the event. I was in the 155th NYVI from Buffalo, NY. I was there for only a few days. I can find myself twice in the movie. Once near the opening where you see Union troops marching along. The other is during the Pickett's Charge scene. I'm in a Virginia shell jacket with a huge hat. The only souvenir I have from that production is the hat I wore as a Confederate. I had a Tee Shirt that said Killer Angles on it. I lost that years ago. If I could find that poster I'd certainly let you have it. I thought that movie was the best adaptation of a book that I have ever seen. tigermikewfg@gmail.com
@mjfleming319
@mjfleming319 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another good video. You picked a lot of great and subtle moments. I personally would have included something with Sam Elliot as Gen. Buford, but if you picked everyone’s favorite scene your video would have ended up feature-film length.
@hivicar
@hivicar 3 жыл бұрын
Great scene at Meade's HQ on evening of July 1 when Buford lets Hancock know that his friend, Armistead, is leading the Division that he'll most likely be facing the next day.
@thomast8539
@thomast8539 4 жыл бұрын
A job well done. I would like to add these items, just for those who may be unfamiliar with the actual battle and/or the film. A - Sgt. Kilrain of the 20th Maine did not exist. He was added by the author of the novel to help drive the story. That said, he is exceptionally portrayed in the film by Kevin Conway. B - There is a wonderful scene early in the film where Gen. Buford (Sam Elliot) tells his subordinate his impression on the impending battle and his selection of the high ground west of town to deny the Confederates the advantage. C - For me, and many others, the scene where Chamberlain orders his unit to fix bayonets is soul stirring and highly emotional, knowing that they are about to face certain death with no other options remaining (outside of retreat or surrender) and it shows in the faces of the actors. Gripping stuff and the best scene of the entire film. D - The film only focused on the portions of the battle covered in the novel, the Killer Angels, that is why there is no mention of Sickles, Custer or of the 1st Minnesota. If you want those details, you have to seek them elsewhere. Perhaps the movie should have retained the title of the novel after all.
@jagsdomain203
@jagsdomain203 Жыл бұрын
Kilran was not a real person but there plenty of Kilrains in the war and that battler
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 4 жыл бұрын
The biting moment when Armistead marches on with his men, and out of the smoke a riderless horse appears. And Armistead immediately realizes his friend, General Garnett, is gone. Garnett was also friends with Hancock although no acknowledged in the movie. I guess General Armistead recounting the sad goodbye of the officers from both North and South just before war was declared, symbolizes all close friendships between the officers from both camps.
@thomast8539
@thomast8539 4 жыл бұрын
Both Armistead and Hancock knew Gen. Reynolds as well.
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomast8539 Most of the veteran Army Generals knew one another from the campaign in Mexico.
@francisbusa1074
@francisbusa1074 4 жыл бұрын
My wife and I were re-enactors in the '90's, I with the 2nd Vermont Volunteer Infantry, and she with the U.S. Sanitary Commission. We learned a lot about the Civil War. I got a fairly good glimpse of what going on campaign must have been like, except for the horrors of the battlefield of course. Till then we knew very little about the war. After we moved to another state, a local middle school would sometimes ask us to come in character and do a presentation for the students and teachers when they worked on their Civil War history unit. That was an honor.
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 4 жыл бұрын
That is a Great story!
@hddun
@hddun 3 жыл бұрын
Great story Francis. I am US Army Vet. I have both DVD's of Gettysburg / Gods Generals. One thing I did not realize was that the South had its very own "Military Intelligence" or lack of. Go back and watch Pickett's charge. It was a great charge-UNTIL it got to that darn rail fence. Military Intelligenc--Naw an intelligent General would have sent about 20 combat engineers out their last at night with little saws and cut that darn fence down...LOL!
@francisbusa1074
@francisbusa1074 3 жыл бұрын
H D Dunbar Yeah, you would think they would have thought about that. That fence really screwed up their formations, which really needed to keep moving to try to avoid as much direct arty fire as possible. It's not like the fence was invisible. You're right.
@francisbusa1074
@francisbusa1074 3 жыл бұрын
H D Dunbar A story for you. In 1993, 4 of our boys travelled to Gettysburg to participate in the 150th anniversary re-enactment of the battle. While they were there they visited the Angle at the stone wall where George Picket's men tried to concentrate their charge. As they stood there facing the direction of the enemy, four Confederate re-enactors approached from the field in line abreast formation, carrying their battle flag. Our Vermonters stood to attention and saluted as the Confederates neared the Angle. Having reached the wall, they halted, about faced, and returned the way they had come. Many of us thought perhaps they were retracing the steps of relatives who were there at the time of the charge. That was a very poignant and sobering moment.
@kanifalam7835
@kanifalam7835 4 жыл бұрын
Great film and book. Really enjoy your videos. I remember reading on how the Confederate soldiers in Pickett's charge let out a great moan at the commencement of Union artillery. One even describes body parts cartwheeling through the air in the slaughter. It's one of the things I've always wondered at, that men of both sides could march into artillery fire knowing they could be literally disintegrated at any moment.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel.
@lonewolf379th
@lonewolf379th 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryGoneWilder Had visited a friend 20 yrs ago, ended up falling asleep on the couch, only to awaken at the voice of someone on the tv. Said person was explaining how his father would take him with him while researching for his stories. The more I listened, I found that I was listening to Jeff Shara(sp?) talk about his father, Michael Shara's book, "The Killer Angels" & the movie "Gettysburg;" then I realized that I had both. Music of the soundtrack is very haunting. Immensely enjoyed Gen. Armistead's speech to Lt. Col. Fremantle just before Pickett's Charge. Had not known that Armistead's uncle had been the commander of Ft. McHenry. Thank you for your "after-actions" reports, sir.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 3 жыл бұрын
@@lonewolf379th you are very welcome. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel
@mattmusselman5055
@mattmusselman5055 4 жыл бұрын
Great job..Gettysburg is my home town..I absolutely love the heritage it holds
@jeffsmith2022
@jeffsmith2022 4 жыл бұрын
Love the film Gettysburg, always will. Reading 'The Killer Angels' got me hooked on the Civil War...I have read that the artillery barrage prior to Pickett's charge was the loudest sound, produced by man, prior to that time...I have walked that field...
@drewdurbin4968
@drewdurbin4968 4 жыл бұрын
It could be heard in Washington DC which is roughly 80 miles away.
@jackzimmer6553
@jackzimmer6553 Жыл бұрын
I read the Killer Angel too! A few months later my wife and I toured Gettysburg for a day or two…it was easy to find my around. Would love to go back again!
@georgemccafferty4813
@georgemccafferty4813 3 жыл бұрын
I love this movie so much. I’m a re-enact or too and I must admit when I watched the scene where Martin Sheen as General Lee rallies the troops before Pickett’s charge! My heart leapt and I wished I was there to touch the flanks of traveller like the troops did at Gettysburg.
@ny9thzouave
@ny9thzouave 4 жыл бұрын
When watching "Gettysburg" you have to remember that this was based on a historical fiction work by Michael Shaara. Shaara, a writer, was using fiction to highlight some key and for the 1970s radical historical ideas about Gettysburg. For instance Shaara suggested that Lee was feeling the effects of medical drugs used to alleviate chest pains from the heart disease that would kill Lee five years after the war. He suggested, as some historians were at that point, that Lee's judgement might have been clouded by said drugs' effects. Martin Sheen, the actor portraying Lee in the movie also read the original Shaara work and I believe you can see such in his portrayal. Some of my friends who have seen the movie called Sheen's portrayal "Lee on Ludes." While Gods and Generals, based on Jeff Shaara's work of the same name (son of the elder Shaara) is based on a more staid/safer interpretation of Robert E. Lee and while I like Robert Duvall as an actor I believe that Duvall wasn't allowed to plum the true depth of his character based on the book/script. While the effects are cheesy the story is wonderful and highly suggest all should ready The Killer Angels, even if you have very little interest in the Civil War.
@gruntforever7437
@gruntforever7437 2 ай бұрын
Well being a fair Civil War historian my self, Shaara made a reasonable interpretation of those events. You calling them radical means you are certainly no judge
@tamiramos5873
@tamiramos5873 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite...just because its kind of funny....is the one where Hood tells Longstreet that all they have to do is "throw rocks down on us." And then again when Lee and Longstreet are talking about a next move. Lee tells Longstreet that he wants him to stay back and that he has a bad habit of moving forward. Longstreet replies "Can't lead from behind." I also love Chamberlain's speech to the deserters when they come to his camp.
@richcar3294
@richcar3294 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite movies and I celebrate the 4th every year by re-watching it. It's not perfect, they could have cut out one of the two scenes of Armistead professing he brotherly love for Hancock and replaced it with the scene they did cut of Ewells meeting with Lee. The re-enactors were great and it is always a good one to watch.
@twowheeledwireman282
@twowheeledwireman282 4 жыл бұрын
I have been a fan of this film for a long time. Great historical points and accurate views
@johnsamuels6021
@johnsamuels6021 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest gaffe in the whole movie (Directors cut) was when Lee (Martin Sheen) said “I have never yet left the enemy in control of the battlefield“. Hello? Ever heard of Antietam?
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 3 жыл бұрын
"In the attack nothing must be held back...I want this to be the final battle." This line illustrates a much more subtle point that is generally overlooked not only by the public at large but by historians as well: far more men died of disease than from battle. 2:1 in fact. Consider this: during the American Civil War about 400,000 soldiers died from disease. Over the course of the 49 months of the war, that comes to about 8,000 soldiers per month dying of disease. The generals of the time were acutely aware of this fact and it likely figured heavily in their calculations of strategy and tactics. The supposed "tactical blunders" of Pickett's Charge and Cold Harbor make much more sense when one considers the full range of information that the generals of the time were also considering. Yes, both of those attacks, and many others, were very high risk endeavors but they were also high REWARD endeavors as well. At Gettysburg the end of the war, notwithstanding a decisive Confederate victory, was months or even years away as far as any of the participants could foresee. If Lee could bring the end of the war a few months closer, a year closer, with a decisive attack on the Union center were not the deaths of the ~1500 men who died in Pickett's charge justified? How many tens of thousands of deaths from disease over the months were saved by thousands of deaths compressed into the space of a battle? The same logic was likely behind Grant's attack at Cold Harbor; yes the war was coming to a close, but how many lives could be saved by bringing it to a close a month or two sooner that would otherwise be the case? 2,000 dead in a desperate attack that might save tens of thousands seems far less stupid than modern people tend to think. In fact, it seems like a very intelligent risk especially when one considers that Grant called off the attack immediately upon seeing its lack of success. Modern people see war only as soldiers dying in battle because that is what modern war is. The calculus of pre-modern war was entirely different, and thus the decision-making of pre-modern generals is, to a fair degree, rather alien to the modern historian.
@masoodvoon8999
@masoodvoon8999 6 ай бұрын
Dude Lee guessed exactly where his opponents were located and where they were heading in almost every single other battle he commanded (minus the peninsula chaos). He had guessed where the previous commander, Hooker, was going on that very campaign but Hooker was relieved and changed course. Even in that battle just a few adjustments in his subordinates decisions would have made that charge a success. Somehow all of a sudden Longstreet is the wise one and Lee is just a bloodthirsty dreamer. The fact is although Longstreet was great, he seldom showed success on the offense and relied on other corps commanders to successfully execute offensive movements.
@SouthernGentleman
@SouthernGentleman 4 жыл бұрын
“We can scarcely take up a newspaper that is not filled with nauseating flatteries of Lee, from which it would seem that the soldier who kills the most men in battle, even in my opinion a bad cause, is the greatest Christian, and entitled to the highest place in heaven.” - Frederick Douglas "Lee had extraordinary skill as a General, his dauntless courage and high leadership, he stood that hardest of all strains, the strain of bearing himself well through the gray evening of failure; and therefore out of what seemed failure he helped to build the wonderful and mighty triumph of our national life, in which all his countrymen, north and south, share.” - President Theodore Roosevelt
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like Humpty trumpty.
@SouthernGentleman
@SouthernGentleman 3 жыл бұрын
@@USGrant-rr2by Historical facts?
@SouthernGentleman
@SouthernGentleman 3 жыл бұрын
@@USGrant-rr2by “While we see the Course of the final abolition of human slavery is onward, & we give it the aid of our prayers & all justifiable means in our power we must leave the progress as well as the result in his hands who Sees the end” - Robert E Lee 1856
@richmondmemedepot7180
@richmondmemedepot7180 4 жыл бұрын
2:02 nice script
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 4 жыл бұрын
It will all be over by Christmas, over in a month, are sentiments so often expressed at the beginning of a war but very rarely true. The only major war I can think of which came close would be the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71 where the actual fighting lasted just one month which was followed by the siege of Paris bringing the total length of the war to just six months. One of the major factors here was the Prussia was very organised and the French were not. Some troops never did catch up to their regiments. Ironically this led the Germans to believe the next war would be just as quick to win. Which is where the Schlieffen Plan came in. As for the 'One Decisive Battle' this was and is an idea which still haunts various wars. The Japanese believed that with one decisive battleship battle with the US Navy in WW2 they could win. When it did happen the Japanese lost. Ironically the USN used the same tactics the Japanese planned to use against the USN. Germany tried the same at the Battle of Jutland during WW1 and not only failed, having to scuttle off back to Germany, the British loses had been replaced even before the Germans got back to port. The British Army did have a number of regiments made up of specific groups, usually reserve regiments, such as the Artists Rifles. It was raised in 1859 and comprised various professional painters, musicians, actors, architects and others involved in creative endeavours. It was disbanded in 1945 but in 1947 it was re-established to resurrect the Special Air Service Regiment were it still exists today. With so many artists as you can imaging their uniform and cap badge was very dashing. anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and I look forward to your next video
@USGrant-rr2by
@USGrant-rr2by 4 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting.
@TheTarget1980
@TheTarget1980 4 жыл бұрын
dont forget the very short german war of 1866 between Prussia , Austria and several little german states. It was over after a month.
@chasemurraychristopherdola7108
@chasemurraychristopherdola7108 4 жыл бұрын
I love this movie a lot especially since the scenes of chamberlain on little round top where shot on my 4x great grandfather Jacob weikerts property and I love this movie so much that my great uncle got me the movie poster that you would see in the movie theaters and I love this movie because one my dads moms cousins was in the movie
@zovaynezovanyari5442
@zovaynezovanyari5442 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I watch the full movie 3 or 4 times a year and have much of it memorized. My biggest complaint is the fake beards. I would have rather the generals not have beards than poor quality fake ones. Enjoyed your observations.
@gallantcavalier3306
@gallantcavalier3306 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, absolutely loved it. I would love to see more videos talking not only about the Gettysburg film, but other civil war films with good and bad scenes. You have done something amazing here and I personally would love to see more.
@webbtrekker534
@webbtrekker534 3 жыл бұрын
Gettysburg is one of my favorite movies. I first saw it in a theater on a wide screen with surround sound. It was incredible. I also love it because there was hardly any special effects especially with sound of the muskets firing. You got that black powder sound. I watch it about once a year. always satisfying.
@darylwilliams7883
@darylwilliams7883 4 жыл бұрын
In order to do this battle full justice it should have been a trilogy, with one movie for each day of battle. So many events happened that were never mentioned. You might end up thinking JL Chamberlain was the hero of Little Round Top, then going to the historic park wonder why a statue of GK Warren is up there.
@Coby-sg6xk
@Coby-sg6xk 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Do you think you’ll ever do an animated battle map of Meade at Fredericksburg? It’s an extremely interesting part of the battle.
@patwest1815
@patwest1815 3 жыл бұрын
Hood was miscast, he was one of the youngest generals in either army, maybe 27 at the time of this battle.
@robmiah4501
@robmiah4501 Ай бұрын
The actor is good Ron Maxwell is the director and also a family friend Gen Hood was about 33 years old at the Gettysburg the actor
@hannahthomas6835
@hannahthomas6835 4 жыл бұрын
This was great! More videos like this would be appreciated! Possibly a video on the good scenes and bad scenes from Gods and Generals?
@amadeusamwater
@amadeusamwater 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the casting in the film was very well done. The main characters on both sides were very believable, and Martin Sheen made an excellent Lee.
@drewdurbin4968
@drewdurbin4968 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any insight into why Lee ordered picketts charge even after what he had seen at Fredericksburg? I've always wondered why.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have a video called, Lee's Decision at Gettysburg Explained. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel.
@Five2_Bravo
@Five2_Bravo 3 жыл бұрын
I was really excited for that movie when it was being made. But it ended up a big letdown. The casting was terrible. The directing was amateurish. But the worst part was who on God's Green Earth decided that Martin Sheen could play a convincing Robert E. Lee? He was horrible. It was like watching a High School play.
@glennkemp3680
@glennkemp3680 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. The movie "Gettysburg" was based on Michael Shaara's "Killer Angels". The book is almost perfect. The movie is a terribly acted cockamamie turd. So what was missing? In my opinion, what the movie is missing is Michael Shaara's narration. If somehow his narration could have walked the story along like the book, this movie might have been watchable. If you just saw the movie without reading Killer Angels, then you have my sympathy. To have Harrison's debacle of the first chapter explained along with the dialogue would explain so much. And how are we to know and understand Buster Killrain and Freemantle without the benefit of Shaara's laying it out? I guess I could go on and on. Don't get me started on Sheen and Berenger. P-yew! Well, I guess I made my point.
@MomentsInTrading
@MomentsInTrading 3 жыл бұрын
You never made a worst scenes vid. I did not like the way they portrayed the character of the guy observing the war on the Southern side for the UK.
@jackzimmer6553
@jackzimmer6553 Жыл бұрын
I loved Sam Elliot as Gen. John Buford watching from the cupola of the Lutheran Seminary for Gen. Reynolds. ‘There’s the devil to pay!’ ‘Can you hold?’ ‘I reckon I can.
@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 Жыл бұрын
Disagree on 1 battle not ending the Civil War. While it wasn't meet to be. Had The Rebs won Gettysburg it would have ended by political pressure. Lee had 3 bad days there Aghhh Oh if Jackson was there
@rfern263
@rfern263 Жыл бұрын
We must remember that the movie Gettysburg is based on the novel The Killer Angles which is a factionalized account of the events. There is no documentation that some of the conversations depicted in the movie actually occurred. For example, it is highly doubtful that Hancock and Chamberlain ever conversed prior to day 3 as seen in the film.
@jamiesale9460
@jamiesale9460 7 ай бұрын
Have you made comments about these reenators appearances as compared to 1863? Meaning they look clean and well fed in the movie. Your observations?
@JamieDouthit
@JamieDouthit 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m still so glad that I’ve finally found a KZbin channel that is as meticulous & interesting with Civil War history as you.
@warringtonfaust1088
@warringtonfaust1088 3 жыл бұрын
The "noise" mentioned, the movie does not convey the sound of a black powder cannon being fired, much less 100 of them. The beards, I understand that they were popularized in the military by the British in the Crimean War.
@Eldanogrande
@Eldanogrande 2 жыл бұрын
When Hood wants to get a battery up on Big Round Top, that was a non-starter. The terrain was too steep, wooded, and rocky to get guns, or even much infantry up there. That’s why it was never occupied by a significant number of troops.
@Notoproject2025
@Notoproject2025 4 жыл бұрын
People are complaining about how low the audio is....... Think it's the actual movie. I have the DVD and even with volume high it's hard to hear the dialogue. Then when the cannons go off I have to turn it down because it's so damn loud.
@debkane5668
@debkane5668 3 ай бұрын
Your comment about the soldiers' not being able to hear well enough to know whether or not their firearms discharged makes a lot of sense.
@Timinator2K10
@Timinator2K10 3 жыл бұрын
Hancock and Armistead’s portrayal, by modern acting/directing, was put on as being very gay.
@dnmcgrath
@dnmcgrath 2 жыл бұрын
The commentator's volume is way too loud compared to the movie soundtrack. Forces the viewer to constantly adjust volume.
@joycekoch5746
@joycekoch5746 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about Pickett's charge is the white ice cream truck which goes down the road in the back ground. Good Humor indeed.
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