Historian Robert Kagan: U.S. passivity 'encouraged' Putin

In his comprehensive new book "The Ghost At The Feast," Kagan draws a line from nineteenth century American parochialism to today's superpower status. #CNN #News

[@asahola8750]

Very true the west has failed to support Ukraine to win the war. Very sad to see dragging their feet while the Ukrainian people suffer so much.

[@idiaidia6082]

Do you realise the cost of fighting a conventional war with a nuclear power like Russia. Just imagine running of water and food for a moment as a result of nuclear war? Apart from the West most countries are routing for Russia

[@asahola8750]

@@idiaidia6082 I think you have a brain fart 💨.

[@lastkidonthemoon]

@@idiaidia6082 So what? Nazi Germany also had allies around the globe, that didn't make fighting then any less right

[@pisacsenna3001]

@@lastkidonthemoon ok so when are you gonna go figth the evil russians? you your family and friends should go to ukraine and fight that evil asap....they need you over there

[@RafaelCruz-iv2wm]

we were too soft at the beggining, and now what a tragedy!!! al the bloodshed happening when it could have been stopped if we had given Ukraine what they needed to stop this monster.

[@musiconabudget3712]

Like what u did in Palestine, Iraq or is it yemen or Libya or was it Vietnam lol

[@pisacsenna3001]

@@musiconabudget3712 yeah they should have gone like in vietnam full force.....what a succes that was

[@musiconabudget3712]

@@pisacsenna3001 Vietnam wasn't existential for the us . Ukraine is more akin to the Cuban missile crisis .

[@republica7337]

Completely agree. Nato's fear of irritating Sputin from the outset, could muster only a lukewarm assistance. Once they realized Ukraine had a chance of defeating Russia, they started giving Ukraine better weapons. Almost like ancient mythology, Nato was playing the role of gods.

[@quantumeseboy]

Ukrainians aren't even asking us to put boots on the ground, just give them tanks at least!

[@sergeypopov8279]

You're lying! A lot of people bet! And this becomes their last place where they put their boots!

[@lastkidonthemoon]

@@sergeypopov8279 A Russian accusing others of lying. Now that's rich.

[@pisacsenna3001]

@@lastkidonthemoon also i think youve been in your basement for too long......go to town man ....go to town

[@nbgoodiscore1303]

@@sergeypopov8279 Ryssä on ryssä vaikka voissa paistais

[@vshulkin]

They are afraid of escalation. They spend $800B on defense every year and still afraid of escalation. Since when Americans are such a puss...s?

[@lestefani9517]

Letting a bully have his way turned him into a socio path

[@republica7337]

Remember how that bully was so cocky before he sent in the troops? Belittling the head of the FSB, making him feel like a child with marbles in his mouth. I wonder what Putin thought once his 3 day war became a dream and not a reality? Best medicine for that bully.

[@tigmiester4248]

​@@republica7337 wow your really smart I loved what you support for Ukrainians your not a monster at all.

[@tigmiester4248]

Yeah you know like no chemical weapons being used but saying they were even to the contrary evidence.

[@dlanska]

Yes, passivity and appeasement didn't work with Hitler either. Amanpour is, and has been, a true and positive force, an intelligent and insightful seeker of the truth, with an unswerving humanitarian focus. Kagan answered even the tough questions clearly and appropriately, and with tremendous insight.

[@regandunn4850]

Dumbest comment yet who do you think stored Hitler it wasn't America it was Russia they don't loose wars like America has done every single time and they are the worlds superpower and nothing is in there way from making Russia blow NATO over the media has to lie to pretend to be involved in the war to protect the people that pay them and no war crimes committed its a signed deal that Ukraine broke the agreement and it clearly states that military confrontation will be the only solution and signed by both sides and america sit tf down you have proven you are nothing if anything these days you are just another country with ya nose shoved in everyone's face and the world is sick of it forever wars you always loose paid by tax payers cut that off rice farmers beat you to scared to enter Ukraine because you know you what will happen fix your own boarders first and then get a another up size with that

[@randibgood]

I agree on all points!

[@gothatch2502]

Anything else?

[@GaryY]

Totally agreed. The newest, best interview to share with anyone who doubts the value of America being involved in international affairs and helping establish reinforcement for international peace. He has affirmed that we should have put our foot down in other regions to prevent unnecessary conflict, such as Georgia, Syria, Crimea, etc. If we had, I feel confident, and it appears we agree, the current aggression would have been unlikely to have occured. The involvement of the US leads to prevention of aggression against sovereign nations, a more peaceful world overall and lives saved.

[@putinmustenduplikegaddafi2236]

Agree

[@geothon]

Eventually USA is going to realize that now is the time to deal with what's left of the Soviet Union.

[@mpalfadel2008]

The evil empire must be destroyed for the greater good

[@emililyin1288]

It's important to prevent Soviet Union (or Russian Empire) to reborn.

[@gingergamingchannel3160]

You mean the neo nazis that make up the ukranian army that biden is sending billions to support?

[@DavidJ222]

Agreed!!!

[@jamesjackovich5886]

The US has to help for now but the EU must have a unified military force to protect their own borders

[@229Mike]

Well said. This should be shared in schools.

[@sa-nn1ny]

We should tell the kids that these are the ideas that can lead us to a nuclear war with Russia before pressing "play."

[@jonber9411]

Listen up kids, ...no Claire! Let go of Egons nostril you scoundrel! Ok there we go, ... So, alright kids, the solution to the aggressive and criminal attack by Putin and the criminals in kremlin is spelled? That's right Eric, very good, long range ballistic counter measures and main battle tanks by the hundreds. No Sara, you can not afford to be isolationist on this matter. Didn't the Japanese Empire and a Honolulu in cinders teach you anything about laying flat in the face of facism? Do not get pre 41 Roosevelt on me you toddler, this is serious!

[@229Mike]

@@sa-nn1ny Russia will never press the nuclear button. It just wouldn’t make any sense for them to do it unless they all want to die.

[@MnyFrNthng]

@@sa-nn1ny yeah, right. We should also tell kids if Putin asks America to give Alaska to Russia, we should do so because otherwise there can be nuclear war with Russia. 🤣 As long as you act like a pussy a bully will always run over you because he knows your limits. He just need to imitate that he would be willing to pass those limits because he knows you are a pussy and will back down.

[@sa-nn1ny]

@@MnyFrNthng Putin won't ask for Alaska. Putin showed no aggression from 2000-2012, until we decided to reneg on our promise to not expand NATO. You are knee deep in western propaganda that paints Putin as someone that is hell bent on conquering Europe- there is no evidence for that other than a sentence taken out of context of one of his speeches. What happened during the Cuban Missile crisis, when Moscow was trying to expand it's sphere of influence? The U.S threatened to invade Cuba!

[@carbontube7956]

russia must end

[@scotmark]

Alternatively, Russia must be saved. OK, a bit tougher, I know...

[@afnd4603]

Nuke them. They won't nuke back. I have a feeling they wont

[@marcux83]

let's agree it must end in it's current state: authoritarian and militaristic. I really hope Russian people can be saved from decades of surpression and brainwashing

[@carbontube7956]

@@marcux83 agree

[@user-oc6dh2yp2w]

Russia is an empire, which means that it needs to be a dictatorship to prevent its own territorial disintegration. It logically follows that only Russia's disintegration can lead to democracy.

[@martinstepanek8902]

Gee I called this nearly at the start of this entire mess. He's a bully, you don't back down whimpering like a battered dog. It just makes the bully angrier and more abusive. Hand Ukraine missiles that can hit Moscow and watch how fast that bully pulls back.

[@puraLusa]

Stupid strategy. Hitting moscow would only confirm propagandists that invented that ukraine was going to atack and that russian pre-emptively invaded. It would ralley moscovites to the cause, and moscow and st pete is actually where anti-regime folks live.

[@martinstepanek8902]

@@puraLusa Didn't say they had to hit Moscow, just that they have the ability at will. They've already hit airbases in Moscow and that hasn't happened. Not stupid. Stupid is cowering to a bully.

[@richardacevedo280]

At the end some will realise that the human and tangible cost of this war would have been lesser had a strong response been taken.

[@emmm70]

if that happens, and since Ukraine is a de facto member of NATO, then Russia can also attack any capital city of any NATO member, including Washington.

[@martinstepanek8902]

@@emmm70 No so. I didn't say they should hit Moscow, just have the ability. A deterrent. The same reason superpowers like Russia hold on to nukes.

[@naidadad9311]

An excellent interview! Thanks a lot!

[@evandegenfelder4554]

Amanpour is a great interviewer and journalist. And Kagan is correct, well said.

[@tigmiester4248]

An excellent interview you loved being lied too by the worst people on planet earth pat yourself on the back.

[@Sir1626]

This is why it is so important that the US and the West support Ukraine. Putin isn't going to stop at Ukraine

[@hautehead]

😆

[@myroslav2819]

Maybe not putin (he is too old), but russia with her imperialistic politic 100% wouldn't stop. Peace document must be signed only on ruins of Kreml.

[@anwandamanfred8498]

Did the US and its allied stopped in the middle East? Bunch of hypocrites

[@immortalboy7741]

You are calling for your own death lol wussia has nukes too

[@scotmark]

@@immortalboy7741 If the annihilation of humanity is what it takes to obtain world peace... so be it. 🙈

[@deecee1522]

Thousands of Russians going home in bodybags

[@pisacsenna3001]

htf do you know anything?

[@saarinmaki]

This character Angela Merkel was so enchanted by Russia 's annexation of Krim in 2014 that she approved the building of Nord Stream 2 making Germany and Europe even more dependent on Russian energy. Not surprising Putin felt she had given him green light to annex more Ukrainian lands.

[@pisacsenna3001]

so now europe is dependender on america and a few other places and its paying 3 times the price......we all here want the russian gas and oil in europe...we love being dependet on russia and once the war is over guess whats gonna happen....

[@nicholascazmay2126]

We watched this happen in the 30s and 40s, and we got WWII when Western Europe and the US failed to show its teeth. We need to be more proactive in preventing invasions, rather than wasting lives and treasure carrying out our own for selfish reasons.

[@puraLusa]

Just a small tiny detail what western europe? 😂

[@scotmark]

@@puraLusa I think he means France. 🙊

[@ruthlesstruth8639]

Western and Eastern Europe were on the side of Hitler. Just like now.

[@dirkgonthier101]

WWII was the result of France and the UK. First of all, they created the peace of Versailles after WWI (the actual reason WWII started) and they didn't succeed to protect the countries they had created (Poland, the Baltic Republics, ...) when they ended the Austian-Hungerian as well as the German empire.

[@RoseFuneral]

Damn you must be ancient

[@jetonkuqi8841]

Totally true, Passivity empowered Dictatorship

[@pisacsenna3001]

so what would you do if you were us president? how would you contain the dictatorship?

[@afnd4603]

@@pisacsenna3001 nuke Russia, China and any new n liberal country.....

[@jetonkuqi8841]

@@pisacsenna3001 1st: Vote for the democratic Party. 2nd: Have talk with people, exchange of opinion and trying to convince people to vote for the right & bright side

[@tinawilson4120]

God is with Ukraine

[@rick4976]

"we have been a little too reluctant to provide Ukraine with everything the Ukrainians can possibly use...". I have been puzzled by the reluctance as well.

[@scotmark]

We gotta find a catchy name for our club!

[@marshuswp3325]

Absolutely agree

[@DerDudelino]

Would they attack Moscow and the Kremlin though, if we give them longe range missiles? That would trigger World War 3, hence the reluctance. I think it's a tough balance because our weapons are killing Russian soldiers and Russia has not responded to this at all with more then some threats.

[@musiconabudget3712]

@@DerDudelino america will get into another war sooner or later . Then they will return the favour

[@WangAiHua]

@@DerDudelino WW3? If RuZZia is not stopped then it WILL continue into WW3 if you (shaking in your boots), don't think it has not already started!

[@DavidJ222]

Trump definitely encouraged Putin. Remember Helsinki?

[@EduardoOliveira-zx4yj]

Two great leaders.

[@extremelycareless2541]

Remember when Trump tried to get LNG with Europe? The Russians would like that. Correct? Go sit down.

[@yoyonaught]

This isn't happening under Trumps term smart one. Plus, leftist Ideologies is what's consuming the world. Trump has nothing to do with it. Why don't you go talk about how wrong biden was for having classified documents.

[@Tony-md7dk]

Remember how Putin waited for Trump not to be president to invade Ukraine?

[@joerogain5025]

"I have President Putin here beside me and he says it wasn't Russia and I don't see any reason for it to be Russia." Donald tRUMP Helsinki/Taking the word of Putin over his own Security Agencies

[@ChildofC-53]

I wonder how much longer Russia will be able to keep its units in Syria. With them getting mopped up in Ukraine.

[@puraLusa]

It goes like this, the conscripts able to pay up will be sent to syria and avoid ukraine and the yacth just received renovations to the dinning hall.

[@pisacsenna3001]

now htf do you know if russia is getting mopped?

[@ChildofC-53]

@@pisacsenna3001 now htf do you know rUsSiA ISNT getting mopped up?? Hahaha, your master Putin love you.

[@bass_not_bombs7483]

Kagan has a special ability, to see and gauge reality as it actually is being played out and then put it into words perfectly! Must be a historian thing haha

[@bernardedwards8461]

His job is to mislead us, and he does it quite well. I am one of the few who doesn't fall for his nonsense.

[@mrderp1292]

His wife Victoria Nuland also has the "special ability" to organize a coup in Ukraine in 2014 when she was working for the Obama State Department.

[@waterkingdavid]

I assume you're joking. So you agree with the mission statement of the group he helped found called PNAC (Project for a New American Century) which is that America should exert full spectrum dominance over the entire planet? If so then perhaps you are endowed with the same kind of pathological hubris as he. This guy is totally sick. People will NEVER EVER ACCEPT that. The result will be what we see. Endless bloodshed and misery instead of peace and harmony. I believe in a free world. Not one controlled by the belligerent United States.

[@bernardedwards8461]

@@waterkingdavid You seem to have misunderstood what I said.

[@waterkingdavid]

@@bernardedwards8461 I wasn't replying to you. I agree with you wholeheartedly. In fact apologies to all here as I think I accidentally wrote in the wrong thread. Or the person I replied to deleted their comment.

[@stevesteve7175]

Kagan makes a strong point.

[@federalreservewolflegend3523]

He is of Israel..... I wont pay them taxes willingly.

[@glenroygrant]

Defeat defeat defeat Russia

[@spelunkerd]

The turning point was the way Ukrainians chose to fight for their own country. In contrast with allies in Afghanistan and even Iraq, Ukrainians feel they have something to fight for, something worth dying for. Instead of dropping their guns and running way, they proved themselves to be capable adversaries. Of course, support them.

[@republica7337]

Completely agree. Good points.

[@marke8323]

"Robert Kagan is an American neoconservative scholar, critic of U.S. foreign policy, and a leading advocate of liberal interventionism. A co-founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century" (WIKI) I have never met a Con yet that wasn't ready to start a War somewhere, or have an answer how to get out of one...

[@wolfheadedconjuror]

The answer out of this war was given in the interview. Give the Ukrainians everything they need to defeat the Russian invaders.

[@krto7663]

@@wolfheadedconjuror Just as the afgan gov was given everything they need to defeat the taliban

[@dirkgonthier101]

@@krto7663 That you don't see the difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine tells more than enough about you.

[@krto7663]

@@prescient8972 The taliban won because even if the US spent a bunch of money in education, there were large amounts of people that absolutely hated the gov and wanted to govern themselves, aka, the taliban. If Ukranie was a clear cut war, you could repel the russians and win, but then what do you do with all those ukranian separatists, you just deport them to russia? Or wipe them all?

[@birdstwin1186]

Just like a true neoconservative. Thanks for bringing this up, should be pinned by CNN. I'm quite tired of self claimed experts pimping their books on TV.

[@paulballard304]

You don’t defeat Putin on the battlefield, you defeat Putin by taking him out, by any means possible.

[@MikeJohnson-nj1ry]

Lead poisoning?

[@hautehead]

Oh,,,do enlighten us with all your infinite wisdom Swami. We'll wait.

[@MikeJohnson-nj1ry]

@@hautehead The Bible can't enlighten conservatives. Years in school failed to enlighten conservatives. Ignorance is a choice and therefor, incurable.

[@seangelarden9543]

We need to send him a set of steak knives with our patented he'll fire delivery system

[@justaghoulintheworld]

Putin is he own worst enemy

[@tabithan2978]

Love Amanpour.

[@emmm70]

... then you love p r o p a g a n d a ... LOL ...

[@nicholasconder4703]

Nobody in the modern world acts in a vacuum. The "failure" of the US to react to the invasions of Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014 were due as much to European lethargy as it was to a lukewarm response by the US. I think that Kagan is overlooking that the US would need to use NATO bases and NATO ports to act more proactively against Russia. However, at that time, none of the European countries in that region seemed to be interested in putting pressure on Russia. Without the support of their European allies, the US would have been marching by itself and looking like an aggressor as bad a Russia. Not to mention having no logistical support for their actions. This would have driven a bigger wedge between the US and Europe, and could have led to the breakup of NATO. Without NATO support, in particular France, Germany and Turkiye, the US effectively had its hands tied and could only take half measures..

[@srercrcr]

Agreed. Crimea as well.

[@malgorzataojoj4256]

I'm not really sure that it will end even if Putin will fall. There are many in Russia that would like to continue on his path, and some even take it to another level

[@joesod]

they cannot continue and endless losing war costing huge loss of life, if that topples Putin it topples the whole regime, they are not going to topple Putin and replace him with someone that is going to continue the war as in WW1 when they toppled the tzar in order to end the war for Russia

[@isabelomenyebolekia3109]

The truth a lot of people fail to understand. Take Putin out and another stronger than him will emerge. It's not about him.

[@lilianfowler7988]

Yes, I wonder who Putin might depend on to maintain his current position.

[@user-qp8js5ps5c]

Yes, I can assure you, there are a lot of people here, who want to fight nazism and put an end to USA brutal hegemony.

[@malgorzataojoj4256]

@@user-qp8js5ps5c if they wan to fight nazism they should turn against the today's form of it. It's called Putlerism. Putler is soooo much like Hitler. Same arguments, same methods, same sick ambitions. Slava Ukraini

[@robinhood20253]

Exactly.

[@document6]

Well Said!

[@shinku2826]

good questions and responses

[@ritemolawbks8012]

The US and NATO didn't react militarily and with aggression in Syria, Georgia, and after the annexation of Crimea because there wasn't political support for intervention in either Europe or America. The US did conduct targeted strikes after chemical weapons attacks on civilians, but it was mostly symbolic because Syria has historically had closer political ties to Moscow. There has to be significant US business and foreign interest, or popular support to involved to use the hard or soft power to counter Russia or China. The actions and public image of Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian Armed forces, and the Ukrainian people in the media is what rallied most of the West to intervene after the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine. Until the 2016 political interference, election meddling, and hacking operations from Russia, Vladimir Putin wasn't considered a dangerous hostile adversary or military threat to the US, its foreign policy, or NATO. Putin used the Russian media and online trolls to build this false image of him being a master spy playing and winning a game 4D chess against the US and Europe. He's now made a major miscalculation and underestimated Zelenskyy and the resolve of the US and its allies. The war will either lead to his demise or the collapse of the Russian government, so as long as the Ukrainians have the weapons and funding, they will defeat Putin without the use of US troops.

[@scotmark]

Exceptionally incisive and observant comment, nice one!

[@user-ed3ol1ij5i]

You need to go to the hospital, boy

[@science_engineering]

Russian's aggression in Syria? If I'm not mistaken, NATO and US invaded in Syria, named it a terroristic state, and almost fully destroyed it (like Lybia and Iraq before). Russia saved the country and stopped ISIS. Generally, it is so much interesting gow americans media make one leaders 'heroes' and other 'evil dictators'.

[@musiconabudget3712]

Please study all the regime changes , coups , election inference and military aggressions perpetrated by the US . Russia cant even keep up lol

[@buimiguel7281]

Completely agreed with your in depth analysis of the political situation. AMERICA now is still a very important role in the global world order should DO MORE TO SUPPORT Ukraine militarily ( long range artillery n Bradley tanks n massive ammunition) n financially to get red devils out of Ukraine. Thre is no other choice. Ukraine must win this war by all means.

[@Stuff_And_Things]

The reality is that Putin knew Trump would be on his side in this conflict and had plans to do this, counting on Trump to continue as president. That didn't happen, but Putin was already invested.

[@donaldgraham6414]

What a liar you are. Only Trump had the strength and moral integrity to deter Putin.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

Putin invaded during Obama. Obama failed to honor the Budapest Memorandum where the US promised to protect Ukraine if they gave their nukes to Russia. What does this have to do with Trump?

[@andrewheaney6858]

Your comment is the number one piece of bullshit I’ve ever read on the net, congratulations !

[@Stuff_And_Things]

@@The_Savage_Wombat Not knowing the intricacies of that, I can't really say whether you've mischaracterized the situation or not. But I don't see anything about that which would make Trump's or Putin's behaviors forgivable or Biden's assistance to Ukraine wrong.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

@@Stuff_And_Things Conflating Trump and Putin makes no sense. Look up the timing of Putin's invasions and read about the Budapest Memorandum on Wikipedia. It's about ten minutes worth of research that will give you a ton of insight.

[@SneakypeteSirena]

Ms. Amanpour is one of the few CNN "journalist" that I still respect.

[@buimiguel7281]

Mr Kagan is very clear about the consequences the world has suffered because of the US passivity. Completely agree with a great man like Mr Kagan.

[@asdilia693]

imperialist

[@Zoltan1251]

US supplied ISIS so i would not be so sure my friend

[@bjrnhjortshjandersen1286]

US politicians generally are very provincial because most Americans are. For more than a century the existence of a world outside the USA keeps surprising them. With all their dark sides the old European Colonial Powers at least understand there is a complicated world and not just their own country. The European problem is the national differences and the desire to push problems as all large action needs a lot of negotiation with other European nations. The current situation with Germany mostly caring about its own economy and not wanting to act as a powerful nation is a good example.

[@derduebel]

That is not right. Germany has been helping financially since 2010 and has been strengthening since 2014. It is a fact that Germany does not want to take on a leadership role. Which is not surprising given the historical circumstances. As we have seen, Germany goes along when other partners lead the way. Russian gas is history!

[@denismorgan9742]

Nevertheless this is history repeating itself much the same as Americans north/south divide of their civil war, all this reared it's head again with Trump. If nobody learns from history the world is doomed to make the same mistakes repeatedly.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

Merkel brought in millions of immigrants that are proving very difficult. Germany has its hands full with her problems now.

[@micindir4213]

@@derduebel you don’t say! Stashed guy wanted to unite Europe. Funny how eu is united under Germany, right? Not with weapon but with €. In the end they rule Europe anyway. And they don’t see small nations having any say in the policies. Instead of coercion they just outright bribe them with “free €”. You vote as EU leaders, you get cash. This is in fact close to how ussr worked, but throughmarket. That’s for euro euro racy. There’s also another force within Germany and that is Ostie. People from DDR are as stiff as Russian older pensioners. For them , confrontation with Russia is taboo. So to get votes, any German politician must do with them. So they are very active, most of them are 60+ and they vote. Ppl of economy.

[@bjrnhjortshjandersen1286]

@@The_Savage_Wombat I am sure you don´t use military equipment to solve that problem.

[@robert5712]

How about Europe's failure to become involved? However I do agree the USA must confront Russia and totalitarian regimes when we can. Trump did give Putin his way by pulling out our troops in Syria. In all probability we now we have Ukraine as a result.

[@NicolasMendoula]

Hum ...I think we are pretty involved you know the war is at our actual borders. A lot of western Europe countries took Ukrainian refugees and provide them with Weapons.

[@theendmyfriend]

Nobody pulled troops out of Syria. The Pentagon just lied and stalled until Trump was gone. They are still stealing all the oil to stop Syria from rebuilding and now they are increasing the troops numbers to try stop Russia and Turkey doing a deal force Kurds to reconcile with Syrian government. USA will never leave Syria because it puts pressure on Iran for Israel.

[@dirkgonthier101]

Europe was involved quite heavily in Russia. It used only a different tactic.

[@birdstwin1186]

First off, we shouldnt have been in Syria. There is a difference between non interventionism and isolationism. It is appropriate to send in the troops when critical security interests are at stake, Syria was not such a case.

[@atestzen5230]

Are you willing to send your son or daughter to shore up the policies of America's elite. You can bet the elites sons and daughters will not be in the trenches!

[@olafvonbraun7300]

Best conclusion I’ve heard so far. If you sweep matter under the rug it will backfire one day.

[@petervote7914]

U.S. can invade Iraq and kill one million people, how come Russia cannot invade Ukraine and kill people there? So only U.S. can invade and kill, Russia cannot?

[@Lew114]

Absolutely brilliant interviewing of a brilliant expert. Thank you CNN.

[@cdes68]

Corruption make people passive eh?

[@IMGreg..]

As long as we in the West hesitate, Putin will see that as weakness and a reluctance to fighting. Never give an inch to a bully and politicians must defer to experienced war fighters when the time comes.

[@mikeymara411]

great interview

[@GUSCRAWF0RD]

I come hear for thought provoking interviews, not to be befuddled with words like quixotic. Now I have to use in practice and only me, Kagan and amanpour will know what it means

[@mrderp1292]

Thank you, "historian" Robert Kagan, husband of Victoria Nuland the woman who engineered the 2014 Ukraine coup when she was with the Obama State Department. You are truly a reliable and unbiased source on this matter. You're also Jhuish like your buddy Zelensky so that means you would never lie and always tell the truth.

[@peacelove2.0.69]

What so ever happened or not.. and the reasons why and how.. war on innocent people is unacceptable

[@puraLusa]

War is always on inocent people.

[@peacelove2.0.69]

@@puraLusa you're right, somehow I agree with that.

[@KanuniSuleyman4857]

@@puraLusa because you know if you make wars with strong people, you wouldn't even exist in this world anymore

[@jamesokello8837]

Thanks for saving Afghanistan

[@phil20_20]

Indeed. We're good at it.

[@petervote7914]

U.S. took one month to liberate Iraq after shock and awe, and Russia? What a pathetic joke Russia is.

[@journeymansmitty8283]

Well Real Talk homeboy is speaking the truth the everyone sit back and let vladdy boy do what he wanted now look where we are today America needs to stop doing everything by the book🤔

[@puraLusa]

Since when did usa start doing everything by the book? 😂

[@TheDrAstrov]

America hasn't followed any rules for a long time. Russia is doing the same. If the United States can, everyone can.

[@emililyin1288]

I thanked Americans for their support under Fox News comment section; got bunch of negative replies :(

[@fdrstan]

That is a traitor hangout, no surprise lol

[@badluck5647]

Trump likes Putin and Biden dislikes Putin, so the MAGA-hats love Putin now.

[@theendmyfriend]

Fox has more people who understand. CNN is mouth piece of Security State. Democrats love the comforting embrace of Big Brother. Look at all these ignoramus literally cheering for Kagan a neocon pioneer of US global inperialism Project for New American Century

[@lynnkayee1015]

Yeah, not surprising. The man they support had to have his lips surgically removed from Putin's ass before he left. "I know my own nations intelligence agencies have said Russia interfered but Putin said they didn't.. So...I believe him." 🙄 That guy.

[@munyehirwejeanpaul7814]

But who made the USA 🇺🇸 a guard of all nations? ? U must stop thinking that u are responsible to all international problems!

[@tamilgamer78986]

Yes correct

[@joshcreatorgalaxy8599]

I don’t like the future😥🥀I wish peace is back in place

[@hautehead]

Yeah. Like when Trump was in office.

[@joshcreatorgalaxy8599]

@@hautehead or Obama

[@KanuniSuleyman4857]

your peace is painful torment for the whole world

[@hautehead]

@@joshcreatorgalaxy8599 Obongo

[@hautehead]

@@KanuniSuleyman4857 🥱

[@arthardewri9702]

Good job Mr Biden. Great man.

[@michaelwolff2451]

Great insight.

[@ZOIZENWRITER]

no war no death, period.

[@TZWG]

世界需要和平!!!!!

[@WangAiHua]

只要俄罗斯仍然是一个帝国，就不会有和平！

[@marshuswp3325]

I couldn't agree more with Robert Kagan! My highest respect to this man for his clear and firm stance. One can only hope that eternally hesitant politicians like Germany's Chancellor Scholz will take his advice. Slava Ukraini from Canada!

[@ruthlesstruth8639]

nazi

[@sergeypopov8279]

Do Nazis cheer on Nazis?

[@robertturner5848]

Amanpor is great!

[@jimplummer4879]

Definitely spot on .

[@yagi3925]

Although the use of chemical weapons on civilians in Syria was horrendous, the US and its Western allies were simply not entitled to intervene or threaten to intervene because it was an internal Syrian affair. Putin's troops, as much as we may hate them/him, were present in Syria at the request of the Syrian government. This constant hammering of "Obama shoud have kept his word and bombed Syria" is completely oblivious of international law. Having said that, it is clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that the US should have intervened in Georgia in 2008 and in Ukraine in 2014 - precisely because such was the wish of the respective Georgian and Ukrainian governments. In 2008 and 2014, Putin blatently violated international law by invading his neighbours and it was then legitimate for the US to respond to the plea fro help from the legitimate local governments.

[@musiconabudget3712]

The constant spinning you do to justify western aggressions world must be quite dizzying lol

[@theendmyfriend]

They didnt invade their neighbours. Ukrainian citizens succeeded in Donbass and last i looked Georgia was still there. Russia stopped usa georgia from invading ossetia. They stopped USA terrorist proxy Al Qaeda from taking over Syria. Had to invade to stop US proxy Ukraine from joining nato and attacking Crimea.

[@yagi3925]

@@musiconabudget3712 I don't justify any Western aggression, bloody old fool! The West helping Ukraine is not an aggression it is a legal help to a sovereign government. If you don't understand that, go to hell.

[@yagi3925]

@@theendmyfriend Of course Russia invaded its neighbors: Georgia, Ukraine and Modavia (Transnistria).These are three blatant aggressions, period.

[@yagi3925]

@@theendmyfriend They did. They invaded sovereign Ukrainian territory in 2014, sovereign Georgian territory in 2008 and sovereign Moldavian territory in 1992. You are just an ignorant in international law, you completely confuse law and politics. International law applies to everyone, including KGBist Russia.

[@QuiltersHandyman]

As in the Korean conflict (war) which we are still living with.

[@Broatch6]

The pity was America didn’t prevail in the Korean War . Just ask anyone who’s ever had the misfortune of living (and dying often violently) in North Korea .

[@pfekula]

I like to think I am very good at probing. Of course I am incredibly careful if I have survived this long. In order to see what I can get away with, I probe. If I find an opening, I go with it.

[@MrKenng123]

Russia is the worst country so far and I guess further sanctioning could prove futile.

[@malik33r]

"Defeat him on the battle field" jokes 🤣

[@paddington1670]

yeah, it would be easy. Look how bad the RU military is.

[@Dannyboy16434]

@@paddington1670 dawg I was a Marine, so many mfs couldn’t even handle being in the field for a week without their phone or vapes😂 I don’t think this generation can handle a long war

[@1776revwar]

There is a very thin line between fear and respect my friends. It is obvious what has happened here as it relates to Putin and Russias actions.

[@denismorgan9742]

This is mainly due to USA acceptance of the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014, if USA had said no then further attacks on Ukraine would have been avoided.

[@Eric-xh9ee]

The US couldn't really do anything since Europe didn't want to do anything so it would look like we're trying to occupy Ukraine. Germany is the one everyone should be criticizing for constantly pushing for closer ties to Russia -- e.g. Nord Stream 1 and 2. They still say those were the right decisions and still don't want to supply weapons to defend their European partners. The USA is not the police of the world. Countries need to work together -- especially regional partners

[@joeanderson8839]

I agree. Putin and China, Iran and North Korea, think that the United States is weak because of our reluctance to act when it was most important for us to act.

[@inquisitor2451]

Usa cowardly evil empire . Brazen, smug, deceitful, two-faced and aggressive and cowardly evil empire . The United States got the whole world. Nobody likes the USA except Western countries

[@munannadozie1254]

And who made you guys the Superman of the world??

[@ruthlesstruth8639]

@@munannadozie1254 They really think that the US has the right to rob and kill all over the world. Russia says no, that's enough.

[@changsafibreg.6636]

@@munannadozie1254 W⚓️‘s like you

[@sergeypopov8279]

You should be ashamed of the United States, which teaches others by committing a huge amount of wars, bombings and military conflicts. No sooner had they left occupied Afghanistan than they got into Ukraine with their arms supplies and encouragement from the Kyiv Zetler!

[@buimiguel7281]

Excellent analysis of the situation in the world particularly in Ukraine, n colossaĺ mistakes under Obama administration in Syria in Georgia n Ukraine.

[@pisacsenna3001]

what would you do if you were us president?

[@mrderp1292]

Yeah when I want "excellent analysis" on Ukraine I always turn to Robert Kagan - husband of Victoria Nuland the woman who organized the 2014 coup in Ukraine when she was with the Obama State Department. Very trustworthy and unbiased source.

[@buimiguel7281]

The war in Ukraine is a kind of poker game. I would supply Ukraine with low range weapons Himars ( 15o km or 200 km of range. I would allow Ukraine to blow up ammunition depots inside Russia n Russian headquarters. More lethal weapons ... more Bradley tanks to get Russian invaders out of Ukraine during Ukrainian counter offensives in spring. The last resort would be to neutralise the terrorist monster by all means.( assassination, poisoning etc.. ) No appeasement with a terrorist state.

[@Lew114]

I agree. Overall Obama was a great President. I’m a huge fan of his. He definitely wasn’t perfect though. He really blew it on Syria and Crimea.

[@pisacsenna3001]

@@Lew114 so lewis tell me what is your consern about lybia and crimea...like what is it to you?

[@thowl7065]

Yes....! This is what I've been saying! We should have stopped what happened in Syria and Biden should have matched Putin's troops on the Ukrainian border as they were arriving there. Putin would never have invaded. Look at the people and property that would have been saved. We should never have given Putin the chance to threaten nuclear weapons. So much horror has happened to the Ukrainian people, I feel so bad. I felt really bad about Syria too. I personally want to say I'm sorry to the people of both these countries.

[@pisacsenna3001]

like im reading what you say and it sounds your in a dark place in your life...very lonely and miserable and also in a basemenet.....realyy pathetic

[@kickboxer8173]

yes

[@randyhergenrether6914]

Nato and USA are providing the necessary munitions to Ukraine too slowly! Too slowly! Ukraine need these munitions in December 2020.

[@followerofjesuschrist1424]

Why does Joe get to have classified docs?

[@igorm6944]

cheers from India

[@roc7880]

what Mr Kagan ignores or avoids is the fact that misplaced focus on minor areas such as Iraq and Afghanistan led to the US under 3 presidents (Bush, Obama, Trump) getting lost fighting peasants with AK47 while ignoring the expansionist plans of Russia and China. And no, staying in Afghanistan 20 years did not prove resolve or bring any credibility, the decision to leave Kabul in 2021 was the best decision taken since 2000. Had the US arm Ukraine before 2014, situation would have been very different.

[@K9dogs811]

Impressive interview 👏

[@MosmMAli]

the syria red line debarcle was the invitation to putin to commit aggression anmd genocide

[@seangelarden9543]

We didn't do anything when he took Crimea and he underestimated Bidens ability to rally NATO . Thank you Ukraine for freeing not only yourself but the world

[@scotmark]

@@lettheflamestakeover2037 Better go and wash your undies, then.

[@user-xc7lr6yo2y]

The Georgians were the first to open fire on our peacekeepers. In Syria, they acted with the consent of the Bashar government, and in the Crimea there was a referendum

[@sergeypopov8279]

It's all right, bro.

[@malik33r]

Where is freedom if all you think about is power, war ?

[@lexruptor]

Exactly, except it wasn't passivity, it was U.S. Cowardice. "Oh no, but I don't wanna be nuked by Russia" as if that were possible. We cannot be passive, and we cannot be cowards.

[@danielpalmer643]

I've often immersed myself in the writings of Donald Kagan, Robert Kagan's father. Donald Kagan wrote and taught about the ancient Greeks. He was particularly interested in understanding the Peloponnesian War. "Assertiveness" in that war was usually more persuasive to the democratic Athenian assembly than clemency and gentleness. Cleon is an example of someone who advocated a more aggressive role. He demanded that the entire city of Chalcis be killed, and led the fleet to do it. Aristophanes makes him a satirical object in the play 'Babylonians', and Thucydides wasn't giving us a flattering portrait of Cleon. I think Cleon was too "assertive". On the role of NATO, I think the world should tread very carefully. This is not ancient Greece. We are much more advanced technologically.

[@bri2120]

You know who his wife is right

[@ByronBohte]

@@bri2120 a highly vetted ambassador

[@rtorres4132]

@@ByronBohte - Victoria Nuland who was on tape in 2014 saying who should and shouldn't be in the Ukrainian government? Bunch of neocons

[@ByronBohte]

@@rtorres4132 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦

[@rtorres4132]

@@ByronBohte - Go read the transcript from the BBC in 2014. Type in Victoria Nuland Ukraine 2014

[@redalert2834]

Correct. When you're being punished it helps to identify the reason why. Nevertheless, you still need to deal with the very real threat of nuclear war.

[@scotmark]

I'm not sure we can do anything about that unless we succeed in banishing nukes entirely. As soon as someone crazy enough touches that red button, Marvin the Martian will get his Earth-shattering KABOOM...

[@andriilink5666]

If you will consider that as a "stop sign", you would get enternally blackmailed by that threat by Kremlin. In such case it's easier and more logical to give up any military confrontation with Russians right from the start...

[@fattail01]

"U.S passivity encouraged Putin..." And now he's right where the US wants him.

[@svenderikjrgensen5335]

Exactly. The US, Nato knew that game. The EU lowered the parades too much. Maybe on purpose?

[@cakemix007]

@7:37 that's projection... in the neocon mindset... leadership ought to be implacable as opposed to leadership as conflict resolution - which it is in healthy practice So we have what we have... a dearth of diplomacy when we need it most

[@armandhammer2235]

"Tell Vladimir after the election I'll have more flexibility ". Barry Obama

[@ritemolawbks8012]

"Russia: if you're listening, please hack my opponent and attack America." Manchurian Candidate

[@armandhammer2235]

@@ritemolawbks8012 That's not a quote

[@ritemolawbks8012]

@@armandhammer2235 Neither is yours. See how it is when you misquote and take things out of context?

[@armandhammer2235]

@@ritemolawbks8012 Actually, mine is a quote from Obama caught on a hot mic in Russia on video tape with audio. Try again.

[@armandhammer2235]

@@ritemolawbks8012 Trump said tongue in cheek "maybe Russia can find her emails".

[@prasannahidellarachchi8086]

What she did not say is US should not have intervene in other countries and lecturer them how to run their affairs. The habit of regime changes in a selected country's and let others to do whatever they want. This had created wars where the poor US citizens lost their lives and disabled physically and mentally and millions of people of those countries lost forever.

[@robinhood20253]

In 1994 , the US and UK , along with other NATO members convinced Ukraine to surrender their nuclear weapons with the guarantee of aide or protection. We gave our word.

[@scotmark]

@@robinhood20253 You forgot one: Russia.

[@khalifa3335]

Q: "What further demonstration of Putin's brutality do we need"... if we anger him further? A: NOOKS

[@thomasanderson1416]

Brandon is too soft on Putler.

[@GaryY]

The newest, best interview to share with anyone who doubts the value of America being involved in international affairs and helping establish reinforcement for international peace. He has affirmed that we should have put our foot down in other regions to prevent unnecessary conflict, such as Georgia, Syria, Crimea, etc. If we had, I feel confident, and it appears we agree, the current aggression would have been unlikely to have occured. The involvement of the US leads to prevention of aggression against sovereign nations, a more peaceful world overall and lives saved.

[@user-xc7lr6yo2y]

The Georgians were the first to open fire on our peacekeepers. In Syria, they acted with the consent of the Bashar government, and in the Crimea there was a referendum

[@betl5982]

Absolutely give Ukraine the weapons needed to win to save innocent Ukrainian lives, grand parents, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and young children. And to stop a dangerous brutal dictator. Didn’t we learn from WW2?

[@sergeypopov8279]

You must visit Donbass!

[@KanuniSuleyman4857]

Not dangerous but a constant threat for US supremacy

[@matsfrommusic]

I feel this guy is reading my mind.

[@Zenfix1]

Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you are right Henry Ford.

[@jamesokello8837]

Thanks for saving Iraq

[@JaBoss397]

lets pray Ukraine wins people like this came on tv the first days of the war and said Russia was going to win. let's keep supporting Ukraine to victory

[@jamesokello8837]

Thanks for saving Libya

[@kingdedede9135]

Warmongering point of view. Hope he sends his kids first.

[@dusansojak3457]

Simply US realise they're not a match to Russia!!!

[@shawnpwatsons1]

No not true. Trump is what encouraged Putin.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

Because he failed to protect Crimea in violation of the Budapest Memorandum?

[@shawnpwatsons1]

@@The_Savage_Wombat No because Trump was a Russian asset before he became president. He laundered Russian mafia money going back to the 1980's. And Putin felt he had Trump in his back pocket because the oligarchs lent his companies hundreds of millions. To Trump Russia was a smart business arrangement. To Putin, Trump was an asset. As such he never had worry about the Untited States until Biden came into the picture. And the clock was running out on his life because he was sick. So, Trump would have let Putin get away with it all day long. And Putin interfered with the election and was hoping to do it again to keep Trump in power. And since it didn't work. He attacked Ukraine as the tide had turned.

[@auntbutton905]

The same warnings were issued by Charlie Wilson, Gustav Avrakotos and Joanne Herring, among others, after getting the the US to fund the Afghan freedom fighters. The failure of the west to help Afghanistan to rebuild the infrastructure in Afghanistan left the door wide open for extremists to take control, and closed the door to effective resistance for the impoverished citizenry.

[@jamesjackovich5886]

Afghanistan produces over 75 percent of the worlds heroin and has for over 500 years long before the US was a country, the US invested billions in Afghanistan when the hunt for Bin Laden was on, most of it stolen by contractors and government officials in one month in 2008 over 8 billion turned up missing

[@chairforce0ne]

That's definitely a lie, the Afghans failed themselves and welcome poverty and extremists.

[@justaghoulintheworld]

Billions went into Afghanistan and they chose to surrender to the Taliban. It is their future to make.

[@KanuniSuleyman4857]

@@chairforce0ne Afghans won 🥳

[@chairforce0ne]

@@KanuniSuleyman4857 Won what? mass illiteracy and starvation? Bro you're asleep

[@addaimike]

I couldn’t agree with you more Robert Kagan on your thoughts regarding USA and Putin.