Historians Were Astounded When Workers Discovered A Secret Room In Thomas Jefferson’s Mansion

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The rumors about U.S. President Thomas Jefferson’s affair with one of his slaves, Sally Hemings, started while he was in office in 1802. It was a disgruntled journalist, once an ally of Jefferson’s but later an embittered enemy, who set the ball rolling with articles in the Richmond Recorder.
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[@theemarydee1610]

How the hell does a man have an “affair “ with a person he owned? Stop romanticizing this story!!! She was “kept” for him to do as he pleased with her. This narrative sickens me!!!!!

[@euphegenia]

Shut up

[@checkcheck2125]

@@euphegenia No you shut up he’s exactly right this is down right sickening.

[@jenn2847]

@@euphegenia white

[@floridabigbear]

Did you listen? It said he “kept” her and she was his concubine. Maybe look that word up. Instead of hearing the word affair and hurrying to type your complaints why not listen first? I think by affair they went, he was cheating on his wife.

[@breonahamilton]

@@floridabigbear sir… an affair involves two willing people, a slave doesn’t have that freedom of choice so it wasn’t an affair. he was simply abusing her bc she wouldn’t have a choice either way. they are trying to sugarcoat the story so white people won’t be uncomfortable but it’s time we tell the truth exactly how it was. there was no affair bc he wasn’t f*cking a free woman. please get it straight.

[@swanlake8827]

How do they know the room they found belonged to Sally? Also, I agree the person that said a slave cannot be a mistress. Being a “mistress” means you had a choice. Even if TJ did not force himself on her I’m sure Sally felt like she had no choice. One thing that really ticked me off about this video is when the narrator said that Sally could have stayed in France and been freed. Sally was 15 yrs old...she was a CHILD when she was SENT to France. She did not know anyone there...she did not speak the language...she had no job and no money...and she was PREGNANT! Her family was back on the plantation so hell yeah she went back... what other choice did the child have?

[@aisensantana6765]

She was 13 years old

[@officiallybrenda]

Well, she was learning French and of course she would have met other French people.

[@jasonshumate6456]

He could have sent here out to pasture, Im sure another women would come into the house . They had 6 children together she lived in an Iconic Mansion 15 to 63, He kept his promises, pretending he is a Rapist is Disgusting, he was married and his wife died she was her sister and took her place. His bill to end Slavery missed by one vote. A democrat had a cold then War of 1812 started, Washington end bring slaves into America. You want to judge??450,000 dead. Cities burned & Livestock stolen. Or President McKinley 1898 Wilmington Insurrection Hes a POS. When no one in the world was saying or doing anything our Founders were.O

[@jasonshumate6456]

@@aisensantana6765 she was 15,a man was lucky to live past 45. Its still that age south of the United States. just like Cleopatra when she met Julius Caesar, and had his child, that was marrying age for most of the 1900's it is pathetic if you hold this Great man to a standard that doesn't exist.look up history, his freedom bill didn't pass by 1 vote 1 democrat had a cold Then the War of 1812. Slavery was here for 160 years before America. King James1619AD to King George 1784AD

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Well I’m gonna agree with you on that particular point

[@virginiathomas5199]

Slaves cannot be mistresses as they have no say so

[@peterweissmann7794]

From memory TJ left the property to her. She was a slave by title only I'm sure. Still I can think of better circumstances.

[@sunflowerroark5170]

Very true and well said. It was legal then because even the church sanctioned slavery.

[@peterweissmann7794]

@@sunflowerroark5170 Thank you if that was directed at me. Slavery is mentioned in the Bible. RACISM is not.

[@denisshillingford5891]

@@peterweissmann7794 white racist always Justified racism. is there a white racist sociopath trying to find excuses for young girl being raped by a nasty slave owner you Simple Simon ignorance..

[@peterweissmann7794]

@@denisshillingford5891 And by the way. My bible doesn't have any pictures & please don't charge me for your diagnosis. And I was always taught to treat everyone as individuals. It seems to me that you weren't.

[@really8930]

Sally Hemings was aged 14 when Jefferson first “took her”, pregnant at 15 and gave birth to the first of 6 children for Jefferson at just aged 16. He was in his forties. Jefferson kept Hemings as his slave right up to his death in his 80s. A “thing” that he could sell like a desk or a chair and do whatever he wanted to. And do to her as he wished is exactly what he did, day in day out for 40 years. He also kept his own children with Hemings as his slaves, his chattels. Imagine that, eh, your own children as slaves. She was enslaved, with no free will to give consent to sexual intercourse. She was just aged 13 or 14. He was a much older man. That is not a “romance”. It is vile abuse of a vulnerable child. A complete denial of human rights, dignity and respect, Slavery was a desperately wicked institution. A stain on the nation’s conscience; or it would be, if America had one.

[@jasonshumate6456]

POS! At 15 was child rearing age, In the 1700's, how do you know she didnt initiate the Sex to get ahead, she seemed like she was crafty working a deal for her Children before they are born? There is a ton of Speculation. But she understood who he was and who are you to attack a dead man for dating a younger woman. Do you know what the lifespan was for the average women was in the 1700's and like I said you're a huge POS. Omg he Kept his Children in the House? With their Father. The fkn Guy was building a Country, in Mexico they still marry at 15. He couldve thrown her away like Trash any fkn time he wanted but he didnt, and she died in a Plantation house where she worked a sweet deal, you get out the Bunkhouse with my Sisters grieving Widower. Sounds like a Sugar Daddy and you weren't There anyway and people of low character like you attack a dead man who's country you hide in. If you dont like the Country he provided for you. The Fuck off. You; she couldve possibly be 10 & 1/2 years when raped by TJ. No, she worked a grieving man, he started getting attention in Paris where he was a FKN Rockstar, off of his Revolution and French Women were Ready. Sally seen her chance slipping away & bam. See anyone can make shit up. & You act like Slaves are stupid.

[@jamescook6564]

You cannot look at 16th-18th century issues through 21 century eyes. Times were different.

[@rupruprup8690]

He was a pervert

[@blastoffasia9505]

Workers? You mean slaves ?????????

[@dedimaju5051]

I know! Right?!

[@sharonsmalls6846]

CONCUBINE, she was his slave!!!

[@jberry1982]

Workers slaves same thing lol they wasn't treated like you see in the movie django they costed to damn much for that shit and the Yankees didn't give 2 fucks about slaves being free or not they emancipated them to disrupt the economy in the south halfway thru the war cuz we wasn't backing down even after Gettysburg we sprung up steel mills and kept on fighting em hard so they freed them to hurt manpower and war material production here to possibly weaken our infrastructure which it made little difference really but Yankees will say to this day the war was entirely to free slaves in which it was the major tax revenue they was losing after the 11 states succeeded away and they was fighting to regain that revenue they was losing they was totally fine getting the 40% tax we paid to the Yankees 20% taxes amongst the Republicans and we southerners didn't take very kindly to that plus like revolutionary war started over we didn't want some Yankee president that was a lawyer none the less telling us what to do nor h ow to do it George Washington said in the beginning of his presidency no lawyer shall cross this threshold and we were making good on that statement then as we would now .... you know how history is written though I'm sure purely by the victors only

[@janetownley]

No, workers, because they’re referring to something which just happened in 2017!

[@janetownley]

Justin Berryman - Are you against punctuation marks

[@helenboula7488]

We know the history, show the hidden room

[@novmbr70jesuslovesyou72]

True

[@bitcoinempress2498]

Right

[@fasic]

Bang room

[@i000_]

🤣

[@christopherp.hitchens3902]

Hey, can’t you see? She clearly lived in a fireplace!

[@marleneg7794]

Relationship? Im pretty sure hen you dont have a say in participating in a sexual encounter it is RAPE!

[@peterweissmann7794]

Maybe she did....................

[@sugaredwards6207]

Peter Weissmann You can't say "no" -- legally-- when your master decides to use your body for sexual satisfaction. Not to mention she was 14 or 15 and a child cannot legally consent either.

[@peterweissmann7794]

@@sugaredwards6207 Sally Hemming was half sister to Martha Jefferson. Sally could've just walk off on TJ when they were in france yet decided to come back to America with him. They respected each other but were not in love but the relationship is believed to be consensual. I haven't heard anything that she was underage when the relationship started (you'd think someone would bring that up).

[@peterweissmann7794]

@@sugaredwards6207 Actually the relationship may have started in France which would make her about mid teens.

[@sugaredwards6207]

Peter Weissmann She was a child (legally unable to consent) & a slave (also legally cannot consent-- like a prisoner of war). As an enslaved CHILD impregnated by an American President, there's no way she'd consider running away in Paris, esp knowing her whole family was still there & could be punished for it.

[@d.v.crystal5589]

Hey, you can't call it a romance or a relationship when half the 'couple' was FRIKIN OWNED by the other half. Get a clue.

[@mattdinero5870]

How do you know how she felt about the man?

[@katburgess8533]

If you had listened to the whole video,or not just picked out certain parts,she could have been a free person in France, since slavery had been abolished by the time they travelled there. But she returned to the US with Jefferson. Just saying,it appears that she did have a choice at one point.

[@davidcordon7674]

When he wrote ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, he was talking about his fellow white folk, in those days, people of color, including native Americans were not believed to be humans, but animals, and they were treated as such.

[@jalhchocd]

can you say that an enslaved woman has a choice in being a "misterss"???

[@erinrising2799]

she was underage at the beginning of their "relationship" as well 😕

[@micheledavis9280]

He owned her so no! Sally did set guidelines when she returned to the home

[@kmaher1424]

Jefferson never actively worked for abolition. He criticized slavery a bit early on, inconsistently. But stopped after he returned from Paris. None of the Hemings children were formally freed. They left and were not pursued.

[@kayp.7757]

An ancestor of mine was a master carpenter who worked on building Monticello. The craftsmen who worked there actually lived on the premises while they completed their tasks.

[@kaycook5563]

The narrator's statement that Jefferson's life, after his wife's death, was not without "romance" in referring to his relationship with Sally Hemmings is a gross and callous misstatement of that relationship. He owned her.

[@andrewharald88]

Hi 👋

[@eastny1973]

Its disgusting that they would sell thier own children....they raped these girls and then kept the child as a slave and sold them for the right price!! Horrible and sad!!!

[@loriminnesota]

So how do you feel about all these men denying paternity nowadays and treating their own children like they don't exist and letting the state pay for them? Ever watch Maury Povich?

[@eastny1973]

@@loriminnesota it still is disgusting!! Im not defending this behavior in our society! In what ever era its still something unacceptable!!

[@arca9ine758]

This channel reminds me of a few people I know who take about 20 minutes to tell a 3 minute story.

[@shorelockhomes943]

Wes Hand same here.

[@feralbluee]

LOL

[@kinitachung7950]

Wes Hand 🤣😂

[@rosegold973]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@sharaj2774]

Stop talking about me like that lol

[@ceeceeceecee5280]

If Sally only knew we would be discussing her life FOREVER....

[@whoopsydaisy6389]

"Relationship". He owned her so lets not pretend like they were on equal footing and she had a choice.

[@SandsTimeDiscoBiscuitShow]

Whoopsy Daisy had a comom-law marriage her, gave her property, a name and raised thier children together.

[@pedromeza2398]

Whoopsy Daisy you are correct, and that is an issue that needs to be seen from the historical perspective of what rights women had in those times. Sally was already pregnant and did what most Mothers continue to do even in today's time, they sacrifice themselves for their children.

[@viriknavarro3165]

The man was opposed to the practice of slavery. I'm rather certain if any of it is true, she could've refused his advances without repercussion or maybe she was the one making the advances. Once upon a time, males and females weren't so concerned about who had "the power" in a relationship. They were far more concerned with not being invaded, attacked by a foreign element. Oh, to occupy our minds with such trivial things for the most selfish of interests. How beautiful and joyous we've become...

[@scorpiocarnage1055]

Virik Navarro But did she know she could refuse and did he believe that she had a right to refuse? We are talking about an age when women didn't have rights and blacks in Western ideology weren't considered human. Jefferson was a brilliant man but he was still a flawed one. Remember, he was opposed to slavery but he still kept slaves. And he only freed some of them.

[@tinawebb9124]

Scorpio Carnage I completely agree with you, I don’t think she could have refused and I’m pretty sure she would of felt like she had no choice in the matter, like you said let’s not forget this was a man so against owning human beings as slaves that he actually forgot that he still owned his own. Maybe he had one set of rules for him and another set for the rest of society. Also replying because I normally see people’s comments months or years after they are posted, this is the first time I’ve seen a comment only half an hour after posting it. X

[@aussieguy55]

It seems Thomas Jefferson was bonking Sally Hemmings mother. Two good books on the relationship of Sally with Jefferson are The Hemingses of Monticello by Annette Gordon-Reed and Thomas Jefferson: An Intimate History. So the room was next to Jeffersons bedroom How convenient.

[@djohn9501]

Thomas Jefferson was a human being like most of us. He was indeed was a great President and did wonderful work including drafting of US Constitution that has the phrase, "All men (and wemen) are created equal". It is being unfair to a good human being. Let the one sinless judge him. Long live Thomas Jefferson's memory for his contribution to his great country!

[@djohn9501]

To criticize him for his relationship with Sally which was more long lasting than most of the marriages in the Western world today is being unfair to Jefferson.

[@lolodee3528]

He married a widow grieving her firstborn son. He inherited any slave he owned through his wife. He had a 38 year long affair with his sister-in-law. He honored his wife’s deathbed wish to remain unmarried. He inherited the debts of his father-in-law & never got out of debt. He was a polymath. Sally, in Paris at age 14-15, looked to be 15-16 under the discerning eye of Abigail Adams, whom stated that the teen seemed silly & frivolous. (Doesn’t sound like a suffering slave much). Let me know how any man with rapidly growing debts & half kin slaves (135+) from the age of 30-ish keeps all these mouths fed, bodies clothed, & runs a farm, governs a state, takes week-long horse rides back & forth to Philadelphia, NY & wherever… modern dudes are 30, never leaving mom’s basement.

[@preludedudesi5208]

Ok so over 4 mins in and still nothing of whats in the secret room

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

Prelude Dude Si Go to: Daily-Tube to see Archaelogists find Sally Hemings room in Monticello. There you can see the room.

[@ibbriman3351]

A brick wall 🤔

[@technicholls]

CLICK BAIT - there is NO "secret room"!

[@quiettman11]

WELL SURE NO EARLY CONDOMS.

[@jbindallas]

8 minutes in and still just as boring and void of content

[@ellenpritchard5828]

I want to know HOW anyone knows that that room was Sally’s room??

[@swilliams1759]

Visitors to Monticello, while Jefferson lived there, wrote about the house and described this room.

[@swimbait1]

So Jefferson inherited 170 slaves, a house, and 5000 acres by his early 20s then after losing his wife got a 15 year old space pregnant. Yep he sounds like a real American hero.

[@brucesnow7125]

People love romanticizing the past and turning A-holes into heroes they never were. Everyone wants to live in a lie rather than face the actual truth.

[@sunflowerroark5170]

Yeah place him right up there with Stalin

[@denisshillingford5891]

Sally was not 15 when he began to rape her she was a lot younger than that. Sally was what they would call a bed warmer at first. she would lay up under the covers at the foot of their feet and warm them up. it was then that Thomas Jefferson begin to rape this little girl

[@liktom]

@@denisshillingford5891 Fact is it was so long ago it is impossible to know the truth. Still I read that Jefferson had a cousin who owned a Plantation in Virginia that could be responsible for the mixed race children.

[@ulyssesgrant4324]

Swimbait1 I love him because he’s a founding father not because his personal life Jesus Christ people

[@jumemowery9434]

Click bait. ...mostly about his slave "mistress" not much about the secret room

[@balboro2854]

It was never secret, and they don't even know that was her room. But it sure makes it sound interesting to say they've found her secret room!

[@georgemckenzie1824]

Jume- just curious as to how a slave, gets the title of mistress? her title is rape victim....

[@trudybeakman367]

She was a rape victim not a mistress

[@jwduded1758]

Bull Shit.

[@jwduded1758]

@@trudybeakman367 Bulll Shhhit

[@Perfict1]

If you refer to a thirteen by fifteen-foot room as _tiny,_ then I have to see where you live.

[@darkonc2]

I think it could be better described as a 13x15 batchelor apartment. Her children probably lived there with her -- at least while they were young.

[@renlentlesstourist7574]

13 by 15 feet is just a little bigger than my bedroom. You can still cant fit very much in it. if i put a double bed in there it would look quote weird. i could put a double in there, bu it wouldnt leave much room for much else. 15x13m however would be a very different story. but 15x13ft isnt really much at all.

[@tadstrange1465]

"She was his third cousin" I'm sorry what

[@pissoff61]

Thats practically not blood no mo tho

[@Redfiregtag]

Its crazy to think that he was ok with his own children being his slaves.

[@judyholiday653]

I have been to Monticello numerous times and for me the most interesting part of it is the gardens and the family cemetery ..

[@dianheffernan3436]

Montablaune? Mr.Rourke... Freaky, question... Did he do the same to the people on that island?(fantasy)

[@rogerthat5459]

Call it what it is: RAPE. Not an "affair, relationship, love affair, etc."

[@davidmicheletti6292]

He saw nothing wrong with owning over 600 slaves during his life. Sally was his slave but also his wife’s half sister. A really sad statement of the beliefs of people from that time frame. I try not to judge but that is one aspect of history I can never accept. My sister in law is black and I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that this sweet persons ancestors were someone’s slave.

[@janepatterson6779]

@Anita Timmons Amen.

[@richb313]

According to Virginia Law at the time since the Estate, including the slaves, being used as collateral in loans it was illegal to free his slaves until the title was clear of all encumbrances. This also prevented Washington from free his slaves. Both Jefferson and Washington made provision in their wills to provide for their slaves well being after their deaths. Much has been written, especially in the past thirty years or so that willingly ignore the truth of this. Were both men perfect? No, nor did they pretend to be but their virtue and honor were never really questioned during their lives except by their enemies whose own honor and virtue were never held in high regard. You might ask yourself why has it become so necessary to destroy the memories of these men? What motivates people to willingly mislead people by only giving part of the story and not a more complete telling of it? When you ask yourself that question you will start to understand the motivation of these people.

[@beckweth]

They don't say how they know it was Sally's room.

[@miriamhavard7621]

I imagine they deduced it.

[@smackpopcrackysmak8337]

His wife told him not to marry cause of children, he completely did what she didn’t want him to do, the reason why she said not to marry.

[@whowhat4573]

I already knew about Sally. I wanted to hear about the room in the title, no such luck. The title should tell you what the story is about!

[@Imeraldgyrl]

No one was in this room when it happened.

[@bwwestman]

Did he just say the room was 13 X 15 feet? That is bigger than most master bedrooms in the average house today. Or have people downsized their own expectations for living? And the room did not seem very "secret"

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

Blake Westman To see the room go to : on Daily-Tube (video) Archaelogists find Sally Hemings room in Monticello.

[@CCLXII]

Blake Westman does that make it ok though. The fact that they were never seen in public together tells you a lot

[@JRobbySh]

Yes, indeed.

[@ralphpalo8618]

Blake .

[@gillianfranklin4515]

A cage is still a cage gilded or not.

[@Anthroliedetector]

She was his slave not his mistress he owned her. I did archaeology at Monticello there is no cleaning it up she was a captive and he made babies with her and she was 14 years old there was no consent he was in his twenties I did archaeological Field School there and 2000 she was his wife's half sister

[@terrywade3696]

Having done my genealogy of Thomas Jefferson (who’s in my family tree), I discovered that history is being rewritten regarding him and Sally Hemming. Thomas Jefferson and his best friend, Dabney Carr used to study their schoolwork together under a large oak tree on the mount Monticello. They made a pact that whoever died first, the other would bury the other under that tree. Dabney later married Thomas’ sister, Martha. Dabney and Martha had a son, Peter, Thomas’ nephew. The Jefferson DNA was extracted from a relative of Thomas. During Thomas’ Presidency, there was a lot of gossip started that Thomas fathered Sally’s children. It’s true that Sally was fathered by Thomas’ father-in-law and she was indeed a half sister of his wife. Peter was a scoundrel and the family knew that he was the father of Sally’s children. When Thomas’ wife died, he was so inconsolable that his daughters feared he might die and for a time, he wasn’t in his right mind from his grief of losing his beloved wife. The family letters verify this and that Peter was bringing shame and scandal to the family. Grandma Eppes even disinherited Peter from her will because of it! Jefferson’s daughters pleaded with him to clear his name publicly but he would not because he didn’t want to bring shame to his, now widowed sister and the memory of his best friend Dabney, who was now buried under the oak tree on Monticello, as promised. The questionable DNA is indeed a Jefferson. Martha Jefferson Carr, Thomas’ sister and mother of Peter the actual father of Sally’s children! It really didn’t take me much digging to find the letters and wills and all the family discussions about Peter! The scandal was in the newspapers of that time and President Thomas Jefferson suffered for it instead of ungrateful Peter. Thomas never recovered from losing his beloved wife.

[@guitarmusic6227]

That's incredible. Can you share with me those letters and info sources? I'd love to see it for myself.

[@communingwithGod]

The DNA proves otherwise, how is it that his DNA- Thomas Jeffersons is in one of Sally's children's DNA, lol. Can you explain that. It couldn't have come from Peter.

[@communingwithGod]

Yes I'd like to see the letters please.

[@terrywade3696]

@@communingwithGod I did explain it in my comment. The Jefferson DNA was extracted from a relative of Thomas Jefferson (see the fifth line of my comment)! All people in the Jefferson family have Jefferson DNA. This includes Thomas Jefferson’s sister and her son, Peter! Peter has Jefferson DNA because of his mother, is the sister of Thomas Jefferson! The DNA that was collected to prove that “a” Jefferson fathered Sally Hemming’s children was not extracted from the former President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson. It was extracted from his relative, an uncle! I don’t know how many ways to explain it to you except to say that Thomas, his uncle (where the DNA came from), his sister, his nephew and Sally Hemming’s children ALL carry the Jefferson DNA! But the Jefferson family records claim that his nephew, Peter, fathered Sally’s children! No one dug up President Jefferson to extract DNA. It was gathered from his exhumed uncle to establish the Hemming’s claim of Jefferson DNA! No other DNA was tested!

[@valor101arise]

Wow. Fascinating. It just goes to show that any story can be told to fit a narrative or used for other's agendas. That breaks my heart

[@yvettejones4249]

He shouldn't even hold the title of founding father. No one who owned over two hundred slaves should.

[@jamesnewman5341]

It's really good that you made that decision for us since you have all the facts.

[@gonefishing2012]

My question would be... If Jefferson would have just let these slaves go, and they left what would have happened to them, would someone else claimed as slaves as soon as they left the property or would they have been free?

[@miriamhavard7621]

They would have to carry "emancipation" documents with them at ALL times to prove that they were free.

[@sank5589]

Key word: Rumors, gossip, speculate and none of us were there but of course just bash people that gave us this great nation to have the freedom to pretend you know something. Sounds like he loved her.

[@Indexanimisermo]

That was a slanderous and vicious statement made by Callandar, a local printer, who took revenge on Jefferson when Jefferson cancelled his printing business with Callandar for personal reasons (having to do with Callandar's Hamiltonian leanings. Because it was a large account, Callandar reacted dishonorably by spreading vicious rumors and hear say regarding the alleged affair with Sally Hemmings, a young black woman. Historically, for the record Jefferson's brother and nephew were living at his estate during that time. His relatives did not exactly share Thomas's principles and likely his brother or nephew may have done the deed...this is nothing more than a post-humous slander against one of the most iconic Americans by those who hate USA with a passion, but especially because of ignorance and bias and they just don't read...

[@loriminnesota]

In the second half of the 20th century, the historian Winthrop Jordan added new fuel to the fire, arguing in a 1968 book that Sally Hemings became pregnant only when Jefferson was in residence at Monticello. This fact was significant, as he was away fully two-thirds of the time. Jordan’s work sparked a new, more critical phase of Jefferson scholarship in which sought to reconcile Jefferson’s reputation as a principled lover of democracy with his admitted racism and the negative views he expressed about African Americans (common to wealthy Virginia planters of the time). In November 1998, new biological evidence surfaced, in the form of a DNA analysis of samples from Field Jefferson, a living descendant of Jefferson’s paternal uncle, and from Eston Hemings (born in 1808). The analysis showed a perfect match between Y-chromosomes-a match with less than one in a thousand chance of being random coincidence. The same study compared DNA between the Hemings line and descendants of Peter Carr’s family, revealing no match. Though the study established probability and not certainty (though several of Jefferson’s male relatives certainly shared that male Y-chromosome, none of them were present at Monticello nine months before each time Sally gave birth), it lent new legitimacy to Madison Hemings’ long-ago claims that Jefferson fathered Madison and his siblings.

[@billwilliams699]

The "young black woman" was 3/ 4 white

[@rachelwilliams8247]

Jefferson was one of the most humanistic and progressive of the early Presidents. So it doesn't surprise me. One of the fondling fathers.

[@j.g.c.2494]

don't say "african-american slaves"; at that time, they were not citizens or americans.

[@theaword270]

j. g.c. Neither were white ppl, they made themselves citizens and “Americans “.

[@oldschool1993]

Here are the facts- Sally Hemming pursued Jefferson to get the privileges of his rank and she was NOT a slave when the affair began. Jefferson was appointed minister to France in 1784 and when there he asked to have one of his slaves sent to France to be his valet. Sally hemming was described as very beautiful and so near white that it was difficult to tell she was a negro. Through some clever maneuvering she managed to get the job and went to France. There, she used her beauty and the fact that Jefferson was far from home to seduce him. France had effectively abolished slavery in that same year, so when Sally stepped off the boat onto French soil she was a free woman and could have gone anywhere she wanted. However, what she wanted was Jefferson and she stayed with him until his return in 1789. As a free woman she was in no way obliged to return to slavery in America, but did so of her own free will.

[@smallaxe2097]

Amazing, still have to try and sanitize the truth. That's basically the same as being complicit. Romance? Seriously? All I can think is imagine the horror that took place in this house during this period of time? That is nothing to be proud of or celebrate. Celebrate predators?

[@Madea8917]

All men and woman are not created equal.

[@cocola485]

The Jefferson/Hemings union seems to have resulted in a lot of wonderful people. I would love to know their thoughts on this episode in history.

[@TheWoodland12]

You can find lots of videos of them speaking on their thoughts . I even found an old Oprah show episode from before I was even born of the relatives.

[@Noneyasauce]

How people can still act so shocked is beyond me. I watched the Jefferson mini series when I was 10 & knew that shit was true 🥴.

[@missgbooker1598]

How can one race of people be so inhumane to one another race of people God loves us all and he looks us all the same and his eyes

[@billyb34usa]

you are so wise

[@tjaspire]

Easy. You just convince yourself that the other group is not human. It makes enslaving people easier. Dehumanization.

[@earlinebeaman684]

You people talk about slavery like it was some type of job employment that the slaves were working. The people were under a legal system that they could not legally escape from and were treated with great cruelty. This isn't a life they would have chosen for themselves.

[@feralbluee]

they didn't ALL get treated with cruelty - do your homework and stop relying on what hate mongering people promulgate!!!

[@stikupartist3698]

@@feralbluee tell us more about the these slaves who lived a fulfilling happy life.

[@TheKubelman]

"His wife was an accompanied pianist." Perhaps the functional illiterates who wrote this are more accomplished. sheesh

[@YouzTube99]

@Mark Zewalk: You beat me to it. "Sheesh" indeed. What I find odd is that the same guy narrates all the vids on the 'Did You Know ?' channel and seems relatively intelligent but didn't correct that.

[@calvinsmith2451]

"That would be "accomplished"...which indeed she was. "Functional illiterates"? Indeed.

[@black12212]

The thought that Sally had to lay with that Slime ball is rather disgusting 🤮

[@sophie13.wright10]

Exactly, this was no love story. No relationship. A slave can not consent to anything under those conditions

[@NkemOnyeka12]

"Romance"? Uh...NO! She was property, she did not love him, he did not love her. She did what she was told because she had no power to refuse him a sexual relationship. He never freed her because he didn't want to. It's delusional to paint any part of this with her having a choice at any time, or as a 'relationship'.

[@anthonymorelli1532]

13' x15' IS NEXT TO HIS ROOM IS HARDLY LIVING IN CELL THAT'S A BIG ROOM WHY CAN'T THEY ADMIT HE LOVED HER

[@miriamhavard7621]

Why didn't he legalize interracial marriage?

[@angelajohnsonkeys4199]

He OWNED her? What choice did she have in America? It was illegal to say no to a white person for a person of African descent...

[@shakk77lewis67]

On the hills with the mansions in the maids.

[@shakk77lewis67]

maid's. IN the maids was the room, where am I and what am i," I robot"..I know exactly where I am

[@RevRelic]

You need to read "The Jefferson Lies" by David Barton. Your information is not true.

[@merediththomas526]

just did a quick search! David Barton isn’t actually a historian and isn’t a reputable source. i don’t think we actually need to read this book.

[@RevRelic]

It doesn't matter if David Barton is an historian or not. He owns about 90% of Thomas Jefferson's papers. You should read his book anyway. His scholarship sharply refutes the lies in this youtube article.

[@laquandrialee322]

@@RevRelic Thanks. Just found it on Amazon.

[@merediththomas526]

@@RevRelic Can you point me to a source that verifies his ownership of those papers? I've read a lot more discrediting Barton than verifying his credibility. I've also read some of his claims and they don't line up with the claims of archaeologists. I don't think his words will hold much truth. Also, I too didn't like this video for multiple reasons, but I fear that none of my reasons correlate with yours.

[@RevRelic]

@@merediththomas526 Just read his book. There are many today who only want to believe the repeated lies about Jefferson. If you have an open mind, Barton's book will show you Jefferson's own words that refute the lies that have been repeated for more than 200 years.

[@Native722]

This is where he took his slaves.

[@trixeylabelle8801]

Would of liked to have seen more of The secret room? infact would of liked to have actually seen The secret room ? A photo of workers 6·30 followed be photo of a fireplace, what's all that about? But thankyou anyhow cause you are brilliant at telling the history of things you put on for us,

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

Trixey Labelle Go to see the room at: Daily-Tube (video) Archaelogists find Sally Hemings room at Monticello.

[@trixeylabelle8801]

GhostCity Shelton Thanks for letting me know that, I'll go check it out there.

[@MrWltrvght]

She was his slave romance i don't think so.

[@christymccleary4565]

Life of a victim, who is consistently raped, held by her captor and forced to have sex, birth babies, and work for free. This poor lady and her descendants. This is just one instance of this massive serial rapist pursuits.

[@fido2644]

Well people are aware that Thomas Jefferson was also supposed to be secretly involved in the underground rail road. Yes I know he owned slaves but he was also the loudest voice to free slaves. But Thomas Jefferson wanted to free his slaves but could not afford it as you had to give money to the freed slaves for the duration of six months also you had to give them food for six months but you also had to give them land. So yes it was expensive to free a slave. But it has already been proven that the Sally Hemings affair is untrue as it was a journalist with a grudge that began the rumor, and to this day there is no evidence only speculation and the repeating of rumors.

[@billyb34usa]

wrong

[@shreddiekrueger359]

Jefferson was an enigma. He was an advocate of abolition but abandoned it because he felt the southern states would never accept it, he then looked to other matters he felt he could influence. He could have freed His slaves though, at the time many virginians were freeing their slaves including george washington Who was far more alligned with slavery than jefferson. This is what makes jefferson so interesting, he was a man of enlightenment moral values Who oppossed slavery but through His own actions supported it at home. A true enigma.

[@bequiet4636]

Romance? She was a slave, there is no consent! She had no choice, there is nothing romantic about it!

[@charlottebuchanan3193]

Sne actually wasnt a slave and how do you KNOW there was no consent???

[@bigjacdaddy]

this is all speculation, I have spent a lot of time reading Jefferson's personal journals and papers and you get a completely different sense of who this man was and how he adored his family..he wrote very detailed accounts of his days ...easy to put timelines together if you want to really document him...he was not the father of Sally Hemming's children, in my opinion, these well put together documentaries string together a series of "truths and facts" that they really have no supporting facts to confirm.

[@billyb34usa]

maybe you should write his biography

[@EhurtAfy]

If you are outraged, you may be poorly informed. I'm not trying to insult anyone, but there is so much textbook ignorance in this comment section. For starters, there was no concept of a transitory period between childhood and adulthood at this time. Marriage made you an adult, so Thomas Jefferson's greatest scandal in regard to Sally Heming is that he did not marry her. Not only would it have been legal to do so at the time, but it's still legal in 2020 for an adult to marry a 14 year old in about half of America. Read "American Child Bride" and see that it's not only an American tradition to marry young, particularly in rural areas, but there were numerous advantages for young women to marry. Applying contemporary morality to history without understanding the views and perspectives of the time is going to be disappointing everytime. Jefferson alone is the reason for many American civil liberties and the Bill of Rights may very well not have been part of the US Constitution at all without him.

[@mrbiscuits915]

Click bait, no secret room to see here, just endless dribble

[@Cyletab]

And why exactly are we ASTOUNDED?Really?

[@phyllisstevens4839]

This whole story the way it is told is a crock of doo doo. This story reads as a love story. it is any thing but.

[@TMIDiva]

I've got a problem with many of the inaccuracies here. But mostly the language. A woman who is not given the choice to refuse sex is a victim of rape. That's not really a "mistress" which is a feminization of "master". Being a slave means that you are property and have no rights to say "Gee, no thanks. Get your pervey hands off my butt". Also, it's not a "romance" when the option is sex or punishment, including the possibility of being sold away from your home and family.... Think how it would feel being a young woman (or girl) with no choice but to submit to a sweaty man that doesn't consider you to be a human? Yeah, big "romance"!

[@Maxfr8]

That sucked. I was hoping for a secret room behind a bookcase leading to a clandestine disco Jefferson frequented to smoke opium or something.

[@blainevolesky9653]

Or an enormous pile of cash

[@lizziehargrove4310]

OMG LMAOOO

[@AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo]

RUMORS....WTF!!! U MEAN 100% FACTS.

[@miriamhavard7621]

Crazy how people deny what's right in front of them.

[@technicholls]

WARNING!!! - CLICK BAIT - there is NO "secret room"!

[@bo-borubeng.madrigaljr.9538]

Tech Nicholls

[@sugaredwards6207]

I guess Tech didn't watch the end

[@leawade9664]

I’ve done a lot of genealogy research on Thomas Jefferson who’s in my family tree. I found a lot of info on the Sally Hemings scandal. The DNA testing was done on his brother or uncle to determine the Jefferson connection to Sally. I’ve read many family letters between his daughters & cousins about the scandal their father suffered at the hands of the press! In these letters, his girls were frustrated with his refusal to come out with the truth. The truth was, Jefferson’s boyhood best friend, Dabney Carr & Thomas made a pact that whichever died first, the other would bury him under an oak tree on Monticello hill where they used to sit & do their schoolwork together. When Dabney grew up, he married Thomas’ sister, Martha. Thomas & Dabney remained close friends until Dabney died in 1773. Thomas buried Dabney under that oak tree on Monticello hill, as promised. Dabney’s son, Peter was known to be the father of Sally Hemings children by family members. Peter of course, was Thomas’ nephew & carried the Jefferson DNA from his mother. He was written out of relatives wills, a frequent topic in family letters for his “dallyings” & frequently shunned for not stepping up with the truth to defend his uncle’s reputation. Thomas Jefferson was so bereft at the death of his beloved wife that he nearly lost his mind & was inconsolable for months. I find it hard to believe he fathered children with his wife’s 1/2 sister slave. It would’ve been out of character for him. Also, he refused to defend himself publicly because to do so would bring shame to his widowed sister, her family & the memory of his best friend, Dabney & the memory of his beloved wife. He kept silent even though his own daughters begged him to publicly expose Peter Carr. This chivalrous behavior was more in keeping with his character. I believe Peter to be the culprit. The experts have familial DNA which of course Peter carried. Genealogists have letters, wills, newspapers & Thomas Jefferson’s own constant character to defend him.

[@loriminnesota]

'In the second half of the 20th century, the historian Winthrop Jordan added new fuel to the fire, arguing in a 1968 book that Sally Hemings became pregnant only when Jefferson was in residence at Monticello. This fact was significant, as he was away fully two-thirds of the time. Jordan’s work sparked a new, more critical phase of Jefferson scholarship in which sought to reconcile Jefferson’s reputation as a principled lover of democracy with his admitted racism and the negative views he expressed about African Americans (common to wealthy Virginia planters of the time). In November 1998, new biological evidence surfaced, in the form of a DNA analysis of samples from Field Jefferson, a living descendant of Jefferson’s paternal uncle, and from Eston Hemings (born in 1808). The analysis showed a perfect match between Y-chromosomes-a match with less than one in a thousand chance of being random coincidence. The same study compared DNA between the Hemings line and descendants of Peter Carr’s family, revealing no match. Though the study established probability and not certainty (though several of Jefferson’s male relatives certainly shared that male Y-chromosome, none of them were present at Monticello nine months before each time Sally gave birth), it lent new legitimacy to Madison Hemings’ long-ago claims that Jefferson fathered Madison and his siblings.'

[@shirleymurphy1958]

Why do they rewrite history or add to a story when they can only guess. What makes that room Sally room?

[@darkonc2]

As his mistress, he would have wanted easy access to her. Having a black mistress wasn't considered very nice by some people (i.e. an accusation), so not having it obvious would have also been a plus.

[@bethbartlett5692]

Shirley Murphy Greed/Money and Ego!

[@electrictroy2010]

Everybody knew that Jefferson had a black mistress. It was national news, and not hidden .

[@laurafernandez8281]

Is she really a mistress since their relationship started years after his wife's death.

[@tammielynne4089]

The slaves where an inherit ; also at time , you where not allow to free or sale an inherit ; slave.

[@chairde]

I agree with Jefferson because he was a product of his time. If I owned slaves like he did I would do the exact same thing if I lived in those days. He was a complex man for anytime. You can't measure a man of that time with the moral standards of today. If she were a paid servant instead of a slave there would be no video. But a servant is really a wage slave. How many rich men bed down servant girls?

[@janepatterson6779]

Thank you...the truth be told.

[@billyb34usa]

four

[@susanwhitehall7314]

Wath the f k was wrong with these people at that time and even today that some can use human beings as slaves these people can not be normal humans it breaks my heart wath these so called humans can do

[@bconsilio3764]

The room? How was it found? More than 1picture! We know about Sally. Misleading!

[@samualwhittemore228]

b Consilio a propaganda piece. Ughh

[@pastelitasdelflan]

The room has always been open, along with the rest of the house. There is nothing secret about it. The interesting part of the story is that there is now evidence connecting it directly to Sally Hemings.

[@nancyreece969]

Is the house of Thomas Jefferson still standing by any chance?? I would love to tour it.☺️

[@charlottebuchanan3193]

Of course it is. Its Monticelli in Charlottesville VA. Its beautiful.

[@miriamhavard7621]

Yes. They have tours regularly.

[@tortugabob]

Sally Hemmings was Jefferson's third wife's half sister. She was never considered a slave by her father, her sister or Jefferson. When Jefferson's wife died he did have an affair with Sally Hemmings. The slavery concept has been overplayed by current historians and our PC culture which is doing everything it can to cast the founding fathers in a bad light. It gets pretty old hearing the lies over and over again.

[@charlottebuchanan3193]

I thought Martha was his FIRST wife?

[@richardmattingly7000]

Actually Jefferson wasn't celibate at all and was having a dalliance with Maria Cosway while stationed in Paris as a diplomat who was married at the time His famous Head /Heart a Letter was to her and had been horrified that she wanted to return with him to America when his duty there ended. Hemings grew up alongside his daughter and the only mention of her in his diary was about her not doing very well in some new enterprise Jefferson was always into to make money. The DNA is questionable in that other members of his family also could of past it on as well but it's likely that some personal relationship with her was likely yet unknown to history.

[@cherjohnson8620]

My take on this is SO WHAT!

[@JRobbySh]

Indeed, so what It was common practice for English nobles to have children by servant girls , even nobles with liberal views.

[@jaythomas9531]

The comments all over this video, is SICK for the people that say don’t judge you are the ones that need a serious MENTAL check, this IS TOTAL SICKNESS

[@pedromeza2398]

Good report of what has been know for years, although DNA beat you.

[@liktom]

Yes but now they say they can't be 100% sure that it was him but could be his cousin who ran the household when he was gone. It's reported that his cousin spent many hours with Sally and her children. As we were not around in this time period no one knows anything for certainty what actually went on.

[@Lady-br3zy]

I'm pretty sure she did not know at 15 y/o she did not know she could live a free life.

[@GFSLombardo]

Sally Hemings knew she (and her brother), a chef, could have claimed their freedom when they lived with Jefferson in Paris. By that time slavery was illegal in France. Historians report that Jefferson "persuaded " Sally to return with him to the USA as his slave on HER condition that any children she had with him would eventiually be freed. After Jefferson's death he did free the surviving children she had with him. Tragically, all the rest of Jefferson's slaves were sold to pay off his large debts. Suggest you read "The Hemingses of Monticello" by Annette Gordon Reed.

[@joancrowley7825]

The only thing that is known for sure is that Sally Hemings was Mrs Jefferson's half sister. There is nothing that links Thomas Jefferson to Sally Hemings' except one of Sally's children is genetically related to the Jefferson male line. Thomas was not the only Jefferson whom lived at Montecello.

[@derekblackwell2601]

If she was a mistress, why keep her in a cell. Call her sagar she was. A slave.

[@imlistening1137]

I can't remember who did this show, but a group looked into this and found evidence that it was actually Jefferson's brother, who was known to party with the slaves.

[@lolodee3528]

Ruled out by dna test. Keep up.

[@imlistening1137]

@@lolodee3528 exactly… but the dna showed it could have been him, or his brother. Keep up yer self…

[@dianheffernan3436]

Wow,Mr Rourke? Freaky, what a turn around of fantasy island,huh.

[@keithnoneya]

DNA proves it was a Jefferson, but many historians and scientist believe it could have easily been his brother as he spent more time with her and the slaves. Either way they have Jefferson blood in them. Very thought provoking.

[@pastelitasdelflan]

No, it could not "easily" have been his brother. True, his brother would be a genetic match. BUT, and this is significant, Hemings became pregnant only when Thomas Jefferson was resident at Monticello. This is notable because 1) Thomas Jefferson was only there about a third of each year when she became pregnant, and 2) his brother Randolph was *not* at Monticello when she became pregnant.

[@BLuddenify]

I don't find it thought provoking, it was pretty common practice at the time. They still believed in the four humors, it was a matter of health. Or so they thought.

[@rickleclair6368]

Keith Noneya was

[@loganflowers3133]

Very true. If the narrator believes it was Thomas, that's fine. But to declare it as fact when it isn't is extremely intellectually dishonest.

[@loganflowers3133]

Renee Tate no. They are literally incapable of proving it to be Thomas Jefferson because he had no living male descendants. They proved it to be a Jefferson. That's it.

[@shariwiita778]

The insest and rape was so overwhelming then, it's still bad but at least we have some laws so called now

[@feralbluee]

there were laws then, too, for pete's sake - i mean, people did believe the laws in the Old Testament!!!!

[@anonymike8280]

Unknown. The only provable descendant of a male Jefferson was Sally's last child, a son, He was born when Thomas was in his mid-60's and known the be suffering from severe prostate symptoms. These almost certainly made him impotent, but probably did not preclude ejaculation. Little doubt Thomas had relations with Sally, but the parentage of her children is legally and biologically unknown. Jefferson could be exhumed and some identifiable DNA could be recovered. Possibly this could show some unique genetic marker he had that his male relatives did not inherit, and this could be found in the Hemings descendants. I think the study should be done, but it is up to the private volition of his living kin to do this. Apparently they do not want to. Thomas was inconsistent in many ways. He wanted to follow in Washington's footsteps and free his chattel upon his death. But he couldn't because he died in debt after living his last years on the equity of his farm maintaining a costly salon lifestyle. He philosophically opposed Black African Chattel Slavery but never firmly called for a plan for its eventual abolition. He argued that blacks and whites would have to remain legally and geographically seperated following the demise of the institution, but that didn't stop him from having a relationship with a biracial mistress. Or do we call her a common-law wife? He idealized the yeoman farmer, the free farmer who worked his own land with his own and his family's labor, and hired free labor if needed. Yet he lived from birth to death on a slave plantation, always provided for by domestic servants who were chattel slaves. After all of this, we don't know what relationship existed between Thomas and Sally. If I was writing a novel, I would have Thomas by his middle years a weary of foibles and vanity of the white women of the planter aristocracy, even if he never said anything in his letters, other writings or remembered conversations.

[@balboro2854]

Why would you have little doubt that Jefferson had relations with Sally Hemings? Where's the evidence? Have you seen first-hand accounts of people saying they saw him coming out of her room, or her out of his? Any letters found? Did anyone see signs of intimacy pass between them? Did he ever take her with him when he went to Philadelphia? Annapolis? Washington?

[@reneenayfabnaynay5679]

Bal Boro, she slept right next to his room! Figure it out!

[@loriminnesota]

In the second half of the 20th century, the historian Winthrop Jordan added new fuel to the fire, arguing in a 1968 book that Sally Hemings became pregnant only when Jefferson was in residence at Monticello. This fact was significant, as he was away fully two-thirds of the time. Jordan’s work sparked a new, more critical phase of Jefferson scholarship in which sought to reconcile Jefferson’s reputation as a principled lover of democracy with his admitted racism and the negative views he expressed about African Americans (common to wealthy Virginia planters of the time). In November 1998, new biological evidence surfaced, in the form of a DNA analysis of samples from Field Jefferson, a living descendant of Jefferson’s paternal uncle, and from Eston Hemings (born in 1808). The analysis showed a perfect match between Y-chromosomes-a match with less than one in a thousand chance of being random coincidence. The same study compared DNA between the Hemings line and descendants of Peter Carr’s family, revealing no match. Though the study established probability and not certainty (though several of Jefferson’s male relatives certainly shared that male Y-chromosome, none of them were present at Monticello nine months before each time Sally gave birth), it lent new legitimacy to Madison Hemings’ long-ago claims that Jefferson fathered Madison and his siblings.

[@anonymike8280]

@@loriminnesota No such thing as a "perfect" match. Either there is a match or there is no match. The argument has a lot of persuasion to it, but the addition of some superlative does not add to the weight of it. Eston Hemings is the only Sally Hemings male child with patrilineal descendants through the present day. An autosomal DNA test might close the case, but the Jefferson family refuses to participate. I write fiction. If I was going to do a story about Sally and Thomas, I would have him disaffected with white women and not wishing another relationship with one. I would have him see white women as variously frivolous, overbearing, frigid, emotionally cold . Then there was the issue of class within the white race itself. If Jefferson was disaffected with the women of his own class within own race, maybe he thought that taking up with a woman of another race might be the way out an the alternative to lifetime of cold nights. Not like it doesn't happen today. Right? How many people today in America, men and women both, meet their need for companionship in an interracial relationship? The difference is, people today don't need to keep it secret.

[@sandybeaches3950]

Slavery was one helluva ride...

[@sykes758]

Only one of Sally's children had descendants that had Jefferson DNA. Witnesses stated that Thomas's younger brother had been seen leaving Sally's quarters at night and early morning. Jefferson freed slaves and never hunted runaways, that seemed capable of surviving in the white world , outside of Monticello. He never wrote of Sally or her children in records or elsewhere. He did not free Sally, but sold her into Slavery. It's doubtful he would have done that to his paramour and mother of his children. He denied the story and the only claimed offspring was born when Jefferson was 65. The story surfaced again to give Bill Clinton, a one of the boys look.

[@buckleybuckley70]

winston smith I completely believe that last line about it being to help out good ole perv Clinton

[@ghostmost2614]

D Adams Fact, the Free Negro population (to use the contemporary term for them) in the South before the Civil War actually outnumbered that in the North by a substantial margin. Of the 488,070 free African-American people in the United States in 1860 - 11 percent of the total black population - according to the federal census, some 35,766 more lived in the slave-holding South than in the North, as analyzed in Ira Berlin's magisterial study, Slaves Without Masters, and more recently in Eva Sheppard Wolf's graceful book Race and Liberty in the New Nation: Emancipation in Virginia From the Revolution to Nat Turner's Rebellion. Just as remarkably, the vast majority of these free Southern black people stayed put in the Confederate states even during the Civil War.

[@andreadejarnette6733]

Yeah...get to the secret room...didn't click so I could hear about his mistress. THUMBS DOWN. PERIOD.

[@veganmarie4737]

So he married his 3rd cousin hold up I need to pull out a calculator because something is not adding up.

[@GGMathi69]

WOW. Amazing video! I didn't knew about this story😱😱😱😱

[@buckleybuckley70]

Flower Child I don’t think they are. People don’t know history as they should & now they teach history the way they want too anyways.....imo

[@jimmcwilliams7306]

DA Nightcore

[@GGMathi69]

Jim McWilliams yeah?

[@jamesoglesby2601]

I knew of this many years ago

[@shaelovebeyonce144]

This place is probably crazily haunted

[@032319581]

There is documentation that some of Sally's children are by another Jefferson male, but who cares? She was described to have looked like her half sister and was attractive. He was young and if they loved one another, who cares?

[@JRobbySh]

Right, except that Jefferson was middle-aged. Maybe a relation with Sally was his compromise on his promise to his dying wife not to remarry. Sally would then have been a true concubine, a kind of second class-wife.

[@laurafernandez8281]

He wasn't young when the relationship happened. His wife's been died for years before anything happened.

[@georgemckenzie1824]

janine harrison- who cares that he raped her? who cares that the man who has the most statues, institution and places named after him was a pedophile?...she was only 12 when she first got pregnant

[@billyb34usa]

loved? she had no choice in the affair.

[@jamesnewman5341]

@@georgemckenzie1824 So he is now convicted of rape and pedophilia. I missed the trial, and I'm kind of concerned about the honor of the JUDGE. So put some papers out here to back up your JUDGESHIP.

[@popsyturvee5112]

Mistress? More like property.