Historic Knives 1st Chronicle PAL RH 36

[@tomritter493]

This is completely different than most blades I've seen from pal

[@nateblevens8166]

Yours is made in Canada mine is made in us and is shiny pre WW2 knife and I never saw a rh 36 knife made with screw and nut In the end of it. I not sure if it's Parkerised or not but did you say its stainless steel mine is blued 1095 crovan carbon steel or 01 high grade crovan carbon steel alloys one of the highest quality of steel

[@tomritter493]

Btw I subbed

[@LtSurvival]

Thanks, that video is 8 years old glad you liked it enough to sub. My father passed away last January and the knife is now in my personal collection, as many of the historic knife I reviewed here. Thanks

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

That is a very nice knife Louis, made even more special because it was your father's. I can't wait to see the next one. - Bryan

[@hawknives]

I have seen a lot of pal 36's, but none made in Sheffield. Enjoy that Knife my friend! God Bless!

[@LtSurvival]

A little correction it still is my father. At 76, he still hunt moose and dear every year. He's a retired cop and love the woods.

[@SurvivalOnPurpose]

That's great. My father just turned 80 and he has slowed down a little.

[@Kris_Stiletto]

Very nice knife. It reminds me of the WWII USMC Ka-Bar, my Pop's had when he was a Marine, during WWII. My Pop's gave it to me when I was 16 years old; I'm 53, now... I lost it, hunting for Game Doves, when I was 17. I replaced it with a newer USMC Ka-Bar in the early 1990's. I keep it as an Collectable; it reminds me of the good times I had hunting with my Grandpa, Pop's, and other Family and Friends, when I was young... V ery cool, Bro... :)

[@LtSurvival]

Yes you are these are really nice keep sake. to bad you lost your original one but knife a met to be use. thanks for your comment. Louis

[@Paul-n2j5q]

That knife wasn't using the war was leftover surplus

[@LtSurvival]

Obviously, the blade blank were sold to diverse compagnies and made into the knife seen here. Similar model were used in WW2 . That particularités one was bought by my late fâcher in the mid '60.

[@bigfitzg927]

just saw your post as i am looking for a little history on this Knife I`m 67 my Dad was 93 and fought in WW2 with the U.S. Navy on a PT boat in the Mediterranian theater and in the Pacific I found it in his drawer when I was aLittle kid . The knife has a razor edge and I used to be able to throw that sucker and was most balanced knife It had a beautiful leather sheath which I butchered so I could hide it in my sneaker. My dad never spoke of the war so shit Its all PT109 to me. Well thanks for posting . You never know.

[@LtSurvival]

+Big Fitzg tahanks for your comment

[@LtSurvival]

+Lt Survival Post a pic of your knife and its marking.

[@celticlion8357]

I have my Dad's exact knife. He was a WWII Marine in the Pacific Theater fighting on Okinawa and I have this knife at this time....the only thing I have left of his from WWII...

[@dnrfishin8981]

yup...good old original kabars....i have my grandfathers rh36 made in usa..just needs a fresh grind....i intend to use it as my primary outdoors knife like he id after the war.

[@LtSurvival]

Great,just be mind full of The rat tail. It not full tang and The steel is not Hi Carbon and may be s'offre then you think. Great hear loom from your grand father. Thanks for watching

[@LtSurvival]

Softer

[@Paul-n2j5q]

If your pal says Sheffield is made in Sheffield England supply to the Canadian troops

[@LtSurvival]

I think the sheffeild blade were surplus after the war and were sold to différents compagnies in the world that stamped their names on the pre made blades. Thats why we see the RH36 model been produce PAL , Marble etc

[@BirdShotIV]

Very cool, I wish we had some more historic knives like that!

[@LtSurvival]

I feel Lucky to have some of these knifes. 2 of them are still been usedfor hunting by my 78 year old father.

[@voodoopepper2008]

Wow! Very nice knife!

[@LtSurvival]

voodoopepper2008 Thanks yes a very nice knife.

[@subi19-wara]

I have also recently found my grandfathers old knife he purchased from a local newspaper in 1948, his knife also has the screw in the back but has the markings of Emil Voos solingen who made German daggers during ww2. I can't find anything on a pal r/h 36 made by this maker and would like to know more.

[@LtSurvival]

lots of maker did the pal rh86 in these time and many use blank made in solingen then punch there trade mark on it. I was lucky ro find anything on mine. i woul like to see picrure of your knife. you can pm me if you wish.

[@LtSurvival]

+Lt Survival I mean pal rh 36

[@richardmcginnis5344]

i have the made in u.s.a. version. a few things you probably know by now is the r.h. stands for remington hunting pattern 36, i also have the u.s. marine ka-bar and a kabar 1237 there is no hyphen between ka and bar on that one

[@LtSurvival]

I had no Idea of the meaning of the letter, makes perfect sense considering the code in the number. the pattern the first number the length the second. So RH 36: Remington Hunting Blade pattern 3, 6 inch long. The other i reviewed is the RH24: Remington Hunting blade pattern 2, 4 inch long. Great Info, Thanks

[@sampark5146]

My grandfather has one

[@cbgaminginc]

Mine says made in the USA

[@LtSurvival]

Collin's World yes after the war they made those in many places. also yours must have a pib to jold the pummel.

[@LtSurvival]

+Lt Survival pin to hold the pummel

[@RJ-vb7gh]

Based on your information that the knife you have is stainless steel as well as how the pommel is affixed, I'd say with reasonable certainty that it is a knock off and most likely not related to the original PAL RH 36... That's not to say it isn't a great knife. Various examples of "one off" knock offs turn up from time to time. To be honest, I think most are likely made in Asia, most likely Japan at the time. In as much as the PAL name was a rip off, so might have been the Sheffield England name. The PAL RH 36 had a legendary reputation, as did Sheffield for knife making. So putting the two together on a single blade and selling it for around $3.00 would likely strike someone in a country where copyright laws weren't enforced as a no-brainer. My very best Machete is a US Military knock off that is Marked "Sheffeeld Steel", Made in Japan. (Note Sheffield is misspelled) I've used it, and still use it, since around 1973 and have cut down or defoliated many trees with it and still trim my hedges with it regularly. I think it cost about $3.00 too. Some of these "repros"/knock offs were produced in mass, some weren't. But as they were all intended to fly under the radar and not create patent or copyright infringement lawsuits until the manufacturers could move on to the next project, they didn't come with much legitimate information as to where they were made or by whom. For the most part these knock offs should be avoided, because most of them are absolute garbage. As they were made by shady companies that never put their real name on them... and then there are those like the one you have and my machete... Truly wonderful tools, made to the highest standards out of top quality materials... for no other reason than pride in workmanship... by people that for the most part never intended to take any credit or blame for their products... As history covers things in layers of dust and paper records get lost, it is going to get harder to find any more real information on your knife, although sooner or later, if there are enough examples found, someone is likely to make something up... Overall just enjoy the example you have... It's not likely to ever have any real historical value... but apparently it's a great knife and a tribute to the people that toiled in anonymity to make it.

[@LtSurvival]

Thanks for a lengthy comment. Yes, I partially agree with you on some point in today's market a 3$ item is highly likely a copy. But this knife was bought end of the 50 and 3 to 10 dollars were an expensive price. (salary were around 3 dollars a day maybe less. Since Canada was a British Dominion, lots of our finish product came from England and after the war they probably reuse the die to make new RH-36 knife in the new steel available. The bolt in the back of the pommel is characteristic of the era in many factory in Europe. Mainly those in Sheffield. Don't know if it has Historical value but It as a family value for shure. Always a pleasure to exchange on knife with knife lovers.

[@ctripps1224]

@@LtSurvival it looks real, when did knock off come into play? Which year?

[@matrex909]

Hi, I have the same knife, passed down. I was told it is not a knock off. As part of the war effort, the USA granted rights to manufacture certain things in England and elsewhere even before the USA entered the war. These Made in England knives were based on the USA provided pattern and distributed to soldiers from Commonwealth countries like Canada, Australia, India...

[@RJ-vb7gh]

@@matrex909 The original RH 36 was technically issued to American servicemen. Rather it was sold to them through the PX system. Basically it was an "approved" knife for anyone who wanted one, but didn't need one according to the quartermaster. Basically if you got an bayonet, you likely didn't technically need a knife. But if you would rather also carry a knife, you bought the RH 36 at the PX and added it to your kit, without any superior officer fussing over it. The RH 36 was a small brother to the RH 37 which was styled after the Marine Combat knife (typically called the K-Bar) and big brother to the RH 35 (Navy Utility knife) As best as I know they were all put into service during WWII. Although the handle is reminiscent of the earlier Remington Hunting knives the blade shape and grind are pretty unique to the WWII series. Although most of PAL's records have been lost to history, I've never heard of any foreign manufacture contracts for any of their knives. Also as stainless steel was a rare comodity during and before WWII I only know of one military knife made in Stainless steel during the war and that was the "Jungle Knife" made by Ek that was only issued in the Pacific. The stainless RH 36's tend to turn up around the former British Empire. It's likely that they were produced after the war as they are in fact in stainless steel which became much more available after the war. Their exact origin is also a bit of a mystery, but most people tend to think that they were actually made in Japan as part of their burgeoning stainless steel industry after the war. Although I haven't seen one myself, I've heard they are of generally high quality. They are far rarer than the originals. As I've never heard of an original RH 36 being issued through the US military, (which is why they aren't stamped "US" or "Navy", "Army", or "Marines" ) there are no records of them ever being issued. If the Stainless variety was actually issued to someone by some military, there should be military purchase records or kit out records by whatever military that issued them. Those records should still exist. If you ever find any records of some military purchasing or issuing Stainless RH 36 knives during WWII, please let me know. It would be interesting to track the Stainless RH 36's to their actual place of origin after all of these years.

[@whitwavenger]

I have one of the original knives, carried by my uncle in World War 2. The Pal RH36 wasn't any sort of predecessor of the Kabar, it was a contemporary of it. The Kabar was Marine issue, and no one except the U S Marines were supposed to be allowed to carry one. The Pal is a slightly smaller knife, civilian purchase, that a lot of Army and Navy personnel carried. Some were eventually supplied under U S contract with a plastic bayonet type sheath and parkerized blade, All of the originals were carbon steel, not stainless, and the pommel was attached with a horizontal pin, not a nut. The knife shown in the video was probably assembled in Sheffield, England, using surplus parts sold by Pal after World War 2. The pommel nut was probably just a short cut in assembly.

[@LtSurvival]

I agree with you. The PAL from sheffield are probably surplus blank. No record are available on the net. One thing is shure they are of the same era as ka-bar.

[@whitwavenger]

Lt Survival

[@0351nick-ch8ee]

"fighting" knife???? Nope.

[@LtSurvival]

they are based on the American fighting /Trench knife that brought the famous K-Bar