Historical Artifacts We Still Haven’t Found

[@KariHaruka]

On the topic of Masamune's lost katana and how swords were confiscated post WWII, made me think of my wife's family heirlooms. A set of Daisho (Katana & wakizashi) that were forged by a swordsmith known as Muramasa during the 16th Century. My wife's ancestors were able to hide the katana & wakizashi during the American occupation of Japan, and these heirlooms are now back proudly on display in the main family residence.

[@IreneWY]

Wow 😮

[@Textile_Courtesan]

That's excellent news! Your wife's ancestors were smart and crafty.

[@romtubify]

Makes me want to reread Fullmetal Deamon Muramasa.

[@cs1375]

This is what I would have done if it were my family heirlooms.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

0:35 - Chapter 1 - Cleopatra's tomb 2:35 - Chapter 2 - Honjo masamune 4:45 - Chapter 3 - Scepter of dagobert 6:35 - Chapter 4 - Great bell of dhammazedi 8:50 - Chapter 5 - The florentine diamond 10:40 - Chapter 6 - Stolen classic paintings

[@paulnolan4971]

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[@Tora0dead]

This was so interesting! Please consider making part 2, so many more treasures have sadly been lost!

[@tkitt21]

I remember hearing about the museum heist years ago, if I remember correctly on the museum website they have instructions on how to care for the paintings that were stolen. So that the robbers or whoever has them now knows how to care for them.

[@GeorgieB1965]

Garner Museum heist. From what has been told, the empty spaces aren't really a homage, but more like a contractual obligation of sorts, in that the spaces must remain as is until the paintings are found.

[@nikstorm594]

This is true.

[@bn-tc2tk]

I hope Martinez finds the tomb. I would love Cleopatras tomb and some of these other things be discovered/found in my lifetime.

[@aibrean2883]

It would be fascinating to find it, but on a human level we should really just let her rest in peace wherever she is and not raid her tomb like we did to so many others.

[@IreneWY]

​@@aibrean2883 archeology has evolved since.

[@TheKalaxis]

That art heist would make for an awesome Casual Criminalist episode 😀

[@Textile_Courtesan]

I was thinking the same thing. It worries me that Simon sometimes reads scripts two hours long about brutal and sadistic murders. I still listen but I would listen to him read the phonebook if we're being honest.

[@Morgan_Sandoval]

From what I've gleaned talking to jewlers, the rule with stolen gold is to always assume it was melted down.

[@dunkelctankwie8019]

This little bit of historical knowledge is more informative on Cleopatra than the Netflix remake of history

[@danidavis7912]

Everyone should kill their Netflix. I did years ago and haven't missed them a bit.

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

​@@danidavis7912 Netflix are doing a good job of that by themselves.

[@dunkelctankwie8019]

@@Captain.AmericaV1 haha

[@semaj_5022]

Just to be clear, Cleopatra most likely committed suicide by drinking a mix of toxic herbs, or potentially by applying a deadly mixture as an ointment, as suggested by Strabo. Suicide by snake would have been difficult, not guaranteed to work, taken a long time, and would not have also led to the deaths of her two servants. Also, it would be "Tokugawa _Iemasu,"_ with an _I._ If it's a Japanese name or word, it's never _L._ They don't use that sound.

[@naheleshiriki5496]

They got some things wrong with the titanic too. People take the movie too seriously.

[@theriotartist]

Yeah buddy haven't you watched A Christmas Story?

[@warpath6666]

​@@theriotartist LOL!!! 🎶Tis the season to be jorry ... Fa Ra Ra Ra Ra, Ra Ra Ra Ra 🎶😄🤣

[@arcturionblade1077]

​@@warpath6666What are you, six years old? Grow up bruh.

[@Textile_Courtesan]

​@@warpath6666not cool.

[@justingoodman9352]

Yay Simon! I still think he's missing an opportunity with the painting "Whistlers Mother"

[@robphinney6868]

I'd love to see a video talking about the heirloom seal of the realm. It's a 2000 year old, imperial jade seal that was lost sometime during the 10th century.

[@tabithas1728]

I love all of these videos. I subscribe to every one of Whistler's channels. Refreshing outlooks for sure. Thank you for what you do. Keep up the good work.

[@danidavis7912]

I enjoy his vids too, but I wish his researchers would do a better job. Every video has at least a couple of very obvious errors.

[@TheUrbanwerebear]

The paintings from the Gardner museum were probably stolen as specific orders for wealthy collectors who don't have any problem with receiving stolen goods, and likely won't turn up unless some billionaire's heir actually finds a shred of conscience and turns one in. That heist was obviously well planned and heavily researched, so the only reason anyone would have to leave the more valuable works is if the thieves didn't have a buyer already lined up. The thieves probably had the paintings in their possession for less than a day, possibly for as little as a few hours. They stole them, shipped them or handed them over, got paid, and vanished.

[@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883]

may have got whacked and vanished

[@TheUrbanwerebear]

@@thetvbaby83 Yep, but the guards on duty went under a microscope for so long (being primary initial suspects), there's no way they could have hidden any sort of bribe.

[@TheUrbanwerebear]

@@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 That too. Easiest way for two people to keep a secret is if one of them is dead.

[@theemissary1313]

Yup. Probably only three or four people involved in total - the two thieves (probably fixers for someone uber-rich rather than actual thieves, who can't be trusted to keep silent), the new owner, and the new owner's spouse. And those will probably never tell.

[@FairbrookWingates]

But once the new 'owner' dies, their heirs may unknowingly try to sell the art or discover they're stolen when looking into their provenance or for documentation of ownership. Any research on the art would show they're classified as missing so the heirs would have to keep them and keep them hidden, and expect *their* heirs to do the same in perpetuity. I'm betting they'll come to light within a century.

[@ryanzblue]

hi simon, big fan of all your channels. i was wondering if you could do a video about the uk's 2001 foot and mouth outbreak, its something ive wanted to know more about and know you can deliver.

[@NecroLiquor.]

This is fascinating 💯 Awesome research and writing!!

[@Facetiously.Esoteric]

Except it wasn't great research. He got numerous things incorrect.

[@NecroLiquor.]

@@Facetiously.Esoteric but there was still enough information to entice further independent (per individual) study. True depth would be exhaustive and likely too dry for even this audience. 😅

[@Facetiously.Esoteric]

@Certified Alienist lmao There is a vast difference between not doing a lot of research and getting basic facts wrong. Smh

[@lovro4744]

I hope the story of the heist is somewhere to be found and made into an epic heist movie.

[@2025Mindfulness]

Simon, another great video, thank you.

[@azigar]

Simon, your beard looks super lush and plush today man! Whoa

[@proto-geek248]

I remember my grandmother telling me "No matter what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was Elizabeth Taylor."

[@chrnumrich]

Hi Simon. Thanks again for a well researched video. Just one thing: It's Tokugawa Iemasa, not Lemasa.

[@pawelgrott1278]

Hi Simon. Amber Chamber could be included as well.

[@truckinconvoy7312]

A casual crim about art heists would be good

[@coreymasoy7034]

Wow ❗🤖 awesome episode ⚡💯👍

[@jovanweismiller7114]

If the Imperial Family fled Austria with CHF25,000,000, why did they live in squalor on Madeira & why did Emperor Karl basically starve to death so his children could eat?

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

7:45 Felipe De Brito: Massive bell Also Felipe De Brito: Stole a massive bell

[@cullenbrant2524]

And we still haven't found Simon's ability to understand movie references, rip.

[@gamebros8424]

I guarantee allot of those missing artifacts are lost at the bottom of the ocean along with all the cities and ships that are currently underwater.

[@Ubique2927]

But but but... There are hundreds of vids where Cleo's tomb has been found. Two new ones in my search today!!!!!

[@KleinesStein]

Remember the amount of times people claimed they found Anastasia (or pretended to be her) before the actual real find of her bones? That should tell you enough about how finding a person’s resting place usually goes. Many times people claim it (for fame or actual belief) and it keeps being false. We’ll keep searching till irrefutable evidence of her tomb is found. Such is life. Cheers!

[@naheleshiriki5496]

Hey what music have you been using for the video? You've got some really good tracks that I'd love to listen to, but I don't know what they are.

[@rationallyruby]

Just some copy right free stuff lol

[@SMunro]

"Stars were not aligned." Totally hilarious.

[@pseudotasuki]

I bought a school bus a few years ago which (I later learned) had been owned by the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum. My joke is that it was the theives' getaway vehicle, but it was actually owned by a school district at the time.

[@iamneutral1]

The peacock throne from India is also one of the famous Lost Ancient Treasure.

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

There was a man in America who claimed to have that sword but he refused to hand it over for authentication, it can be done japan has records of the hamon of many important swords including that one (they are paintings of the sword with the hamon line which is basically the swords fingerprint). I didn't hear any more about that after the claim was made years ago accompanied by a photo of a rusty sword in a very sorry state minus all its fittings.

[@JBTriple8]

""There was a man in America who claimed to have that sword but he refused to hand it over for authentication." if he handed over the Honjo Masamune Sword Tokugawa Iemasa wouldve awarded handsome amount yeah think it was melted down.

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

@@JBTriple8 they would demand it back for sure not sure if any money would change hands it was stolen anyway, its war loot and a thing of cultural significance

[@masonjelvin6001]

@@JBTriple8 yeah i don’t agree, they probably wouldn’t pay the man lmao

[@no-nonseplayer6612]

@@GreatSageSunWukong no if i remember right Goverment of Japan has such bounty on historical relics if returned on Japanese soil

[@jerryschramm4399]

The Aztecs and Inca, facing defeat by the Spanish, hid large caches of wealth. The hiding places are still unknown. In the case of the Inca, Atahualpa, was thought to know where the treasure was located. But after months of torture, he wouldn't reveal where it could be found. The Spanish then publicly murdered the former emperor.

[@lexzbuddy]

A big chunk of Alexandria sunk beneath the sea circa 360 AD. Cleopatra died around 30 AD. So, there's a place we can't look or at least we're unlike to find anything there. I'd love it if it were found though. Even better if it is undisturbed. Who knows though, fascinating stuff.

[@gaius_enceladus]

"Historical Artifacts We Still Haven’t Found" The nuclear power-plant that powers the Simon Whistler droid............ It has *got* to be nuclear-powered! Nothing else could explain its prodigious output!

[@atlanajohnson294]

I love your voice 😂 Doesn't matter what your talking about, just keep talking ❤ 🙏🏾

[@ceallaig1]

The Gardner heist would make a good CasCrim episode.

[@mynameisbub97]

Simon's, "We" in the intro hits different.

[@ryancasaday2237]

I'm surprised Simon's hair didn't make the list

[@momcat2223]

Kept expecting the next mention to be the location of Genghis Khan's tomb... Has it been found then?

[@rationallyruby]

Nope!

[@wterlep]

Does anyone know how to tone down the background music?

[@harrybeer7083]

How did cleopatra outsmart “Emperor Augustus” when she died 3 years before he was crowned?

[@johns8249]

Do a mega project video on the art heist!

[@rationallyruby]

Nah casual criminalist!!!

[@kenstruelens5112]

It's Iemasu with an I pronounced ijemasu, not Lemasu or Leyasu like in a previous video about the Tokugawa shogunate. The Japanese language doesn't have an L sound at all for that matter.

[@od1452]

mmm.. A few years ago.. there were a number of articles about the finding of Venus De Milo's arms. The arms were a disappointment as they were thought to be ugly. I never saw a drawing or photo but it was assured they were the correct arms.... Then Nothing about the arms !!!! Can you check this out Simon. ???

[@dumbfounded_844]

did my buy just snorted the whole bag before hitting record, or is his nose usually this red?

[@AvB.83]

03:22 Imagine forcing the Japanese to surrender ALL their weapons, every last one of them, down to the most ancient sword collecting dust on the shelves, items of IMMENSE traditional and emotional value to their respective owners, and 60+ years later having forgotten all of that and leaving not only a handful of glorified knives (no disrespect to anyone who owns a sword, those are often beautiful items, and the craftmanship involved in making them is fascinating... but they are quite useless in war these days) in the hands of the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, but also probably every single firearm they ever had, and then also probably leaving behind some of their own.

[@multiyapples]

I hope we find these artifacts.

[@chukasssss]

Goro Masamu-nyey!

[@paulnolan4971]

Lotta Berts became king back in the day day day day day 😁

[@scionofdorn9101]

Little known fact that all of these items are sealed in wooden boxes in an unmarked warehouse somewhere in America next to a box containing the Ark of the Covenant and a fedora and whip of questionable provenance.

[@MagicMomotaros]

Masamunye 🐱

[@Myzelfa]

I'm genuinely curious how you got the notion to say Masamune's name like that, because I've never heard such a pronunciation.

[@leepreston9637]

Out smarted Emperor Augustus? Hiding your body or not he's the reason you're dead. Also maybe the reason no one can find her tomb is that he did and destroyed it without recording it.

[@azigar]

I always fancied that exact theory. It was in his best interests to do exactly that. I've also thought that he did manage to "disappear" Caesarion as well.

[@no-nonseplayer6612]

well more likely Gueen Cleopatra is same Place Where Alexander hte Great is probably inside the Phinx

[@craighalliday0276]

Should turn the music up I can still hear simon👍

[@MrSunDevil23]

Gee whiz… do I really need to add in here…. Where is the Ark of the Covenant?? Where is Noah’s ark?? Where is anything that popular religion has faith in?? Love this channel and it always jump starts my brain!!

[@boldandthebeautifulgimbal2881]

7:12 400t???? 40t perhaps but not 400t.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

You didn't add the Burial place of Genhis Khan, and the Tomb of Alexander the Great.

[@no-nonseplayer6612]

well i think Cleopatra might Rest inside the Phinx where you might find Alexander the Greats body as well

[@TheScrubExpress]

The masamune makes me sad :(

[@PitboyHarmony1]

Re: the stolen art from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum ... anyone with half a brain can figure out why only very specific pieces were stolen, and others were left. Curators and police who deal with art know this: The ones stolen were on order. Pieces with this level of value are not stolen to be sold but coveted by very private collectors, and literally their piece was requested. Someone in charge put together a list of collectors and the pieces from this museum that they wanted, this museum being targeted because of a security with huge holes in its system. then the job is done and the specific pieces collected. The collectors obtained their piece, paid for it and locked it away. For these people its not about hanging it in the dining room, its about just secretly owning it. This kind of collection passes thru generations, the pieces just stay hidden.

[@GraveyardRomance]

#2 is extremely frustrating

[@randomperson6433]

Massive bell. 🎶Bell b-bell bell.🎶

[@SplendiferousSteph]

I searched for this comment. Exquisite.

[@randomperson6433]

@@SplendiferousSteph It’s all I could think of 😆

[@Braven-j7m]

I always wondered why you never really hear about cleopatra in Egyptian documentary's

[@Yupppi]

For anyone wondering, Masamune wasn't spanish.

[@chillgenxer2790]

Baller move leaving out the Ark of the Covenant

[@JBTriple8]

its likely exists in two places but the church is not granting access too Historians ones real the other is a decoy .

[@willowmoon7]

It's a common misconception that samurai were only swordsmen, they actually had many many other weapons at their disposal, only using swords as a last resort when battles turned to close combat

[@nathansmith5215]

The only people cleopatra outsmarted were Roman simps and herself. She was one of the first to learn you don’t f*** with Augustus.

[@danielmatarazzo3678]

The samurai's weapons of choice were bows and spears. The katana was more of a side arm, if a samurai was forced to use his katana he was in a tight spot.

[@TheJonesdude]

Cleopatra didn't die via a snake bite.

[@thatkidmorganmariah]

"Five hundred million dollars worth of priceless artwork" Seems to have a price of $500M, no?

[@theUglyGypsy]

Pretty sure the museum closed officially on the recent anniversary of the heist

[@simonmeadows7961]

I will now be pronouncing Titian as Titty'un from now on!

[@pjstackz58]

The music is a little too loud in this, a bit distracting

[@xntumrfo9ivrnwf]

Yes agree

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

*Infinity stones?*

[@wyattrota9070]

Alexander's tomb?

[@ReclaimerX]

Lost...or just being kept in "private collections"...

[@JBTriple8]

yeah i think the sword and treasure may have been melted down unfortunately.

[@cs1375]

Imagine going back to that musuem as the person that stole those paintings. It would be funny if they had a yearly membership or something.

[@LemuelSeverino-p1y]

If they died fighting and they never conquered the fight it would make sense that she's buried somewhere where there's fighting

[@braddishv3146]

How do you lose a giant bell?! 😅😆

[@danidavis7912]

Play a bad hand of poker.

[@rainecormier2935]

Ah yes, that famous "Tit-ti-tan" peice at the Isabella 😜

[@kaldogorath]

Wait, a 300 ton bell caused a raft to sink? Why??

[@budwilliams6590]

Should be able to locate that bell with a magnetic anomaly detector.

[@rodchallis8031]

Imagine if they found Jesus' cup from the last supper. That would be, like, the Holy Grail of lost artifacts.

[@azigar]

I see what you did there, Challis.

[@rationallyruby]

How would that even be verified? A vast majority of the Bible is made up anyways we have no reason to think any real last supper happened?

[@CharlieBrownZero]

Imagine just handing over your ancient ancestral sword to some foreign invaders, because they asked for it, instead of just burying it in your garden or hiding it behind a bookcase. Absolutely pathetic.

[@xanthopanmorganii229]

Homogenious ingroups tend to be naive with high trust and hold righteous behaviour in high regard. When they heard that those items will be given back, they believed it, as they would have acted in that way. Same way of thinking as american fly overs which leave their front door open at all times. They can do it, as they tend to have high ingroup trust and high ingroup populations.

[@Morganstein-Railroad]

I thought that cleopatra was bitten by an Asp. Is that another name for a cobra?

[@Krullmatic]

One of the baffling mysteries as well is, why does Netflix think Cleopatra was black. It's not like it's fiction or anything. She was of Greek heritage! I cannot wait to see their next premier of Napoleon, as portrayed by Danny Trejo.😂

[@danidavis7912]

It's all that woke bullshit of course.

[@azigar]

I don't think Netflix thinks anything about Cleopatra. They permitted whatserface to pop her little soap opera on and they want to think about the money that will roll in. For the record, I'm black and have NEVER thought that a Ptolemy was black. I've been blasted for decades by my rabid black power and awareness friends on this point. Honey, there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see.

[@rationallyruby]

Okay so this is sort of true but she wasn’t purely white either at least not what we think of as white. You have to remember these concepts of white weren’t really a thing at this time.

[@Krullmatic]

@@rationallyruby The thing is though, I wish people would realize that we a one race. The human one. Individual race is a human invention. Greeks are olive skinned, not pure white, but they aren't dark skinned with After Ivan features. I'm half Cherokee, and have light dark skin, but in the summer I get really dark, but still considered white.

[@rationallyruby]

@@Krullmatic so race is a made up concept but it’s important we don’t forget about how humans have used it in order to oppress others.

[@Kcheeseboro]

Hanjo masamune sword is probably in some billionaire collection

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

It’s u likey that cleopatra committed suicide by snake as she had been inquiring on poisons that were completely painless, which a cobra bite is not.

[@TheCradM]

My father got a significant (shared) pay out in 2017 for a group of paintings the Nazis took in 1939. My great grandfather was lucky enough to be in the higher class of Jews, that were given the opportunity to leave Europe before the MASS genocides. He was on decent terms with the SS. He was one of the many assistants of Einstein, and invented the first dimming light switch. His family homes (Karplus is the latest version of his surname) were raided prior to their emigration. We still have many amazing old silver collections that they managed to get out, but my father got a massive pay out for the paintings taken in the home, which are now in historical protection. It’s amazing how many beautiful pieces of art are improperly placed and stolen. It really makes you think… how many amazing things on earth have been destroyed out of jealousy, greed, and hatred.

[@danidavis7912]

Yep. Just look at what the Islamists destroyed during their idiotic "caliphate" a few years back.

[@4thKJU]

Simon waiting to find his love of dogs.

[@TheKoolaidman007]

Little behind the times guys the sword has been found a while back now

[@danidavis7912]

Citation?

[@Ashannon888]

I mean if it was should be easy to tell us instead of just saying it. Makes me think you're full of shit.

[@PelenTan]

On the art theft. The fact that the badge-weasels were confused why the obviously smart thieves didn't grab the more valuable, and much more recognizable, pieces tells you why I have nothing but disdain for the dregs of humanity that populate the badge-weasel ranks.

[@LemuelSeverino-p1y]

Is just some love you that even in the afterlife love is unbreakable some bodies aren't to be ever found

[@douglasboyle6544]

We have top men working in this. Who? Top. Men.

[@jjstewart4341]

if you didn't enunciate so toffishly you would be the best channel on KZbin

[@scottfw7169]

🎶🎵Difficult enough to hear Simon over the music that 1:31 was as far as I watched. 👎