Historical Engine #1 The Infanta Maria Teresa Class Armored Cruiser

[@Vbertz]

Pueden ver más sobre el proyecto aquí www.artstation.com/artwork/8Bbz1q

[@mz0pp4]

@@Vbertz ¡Gran trabajo!. ¡Bravo!

[@Vbertz]

@@mz0pp4 mil gracias!

[@patrickharlan9586]

Love those old ram bow lines, Nice model.

[@RadianIndustries]

With their propellers running in reverse, it's no wonder they were shot to pieces.

[@hoodoo2001]

These ships were basically armored cruisers (at best rated as light 2nd class battleships) were NOT intended to dominate anything other than opposing cruisers or merchant ship raiding. Their armor was outdated but what was really their problem was that logistically they were poorly supported and this forced them into a corner in a fight they could not win. Poor quality coal and poor quality ammo for their ten 5.5 inch Hontoria quick fire guns (ten each per ship). Only belatedly did they received around 100 good quality rounds for ALL THREE ships that they had to share (30 rounds or so per ship). The Vizcaya's speed was tremendously reduced by biological fouling and could only do about 15 knots. It needed a dry docking and hull cleaning. Even the non-MT class Cristobal Colon despite have good quality British 6 inch guns, five on each side, had not yet received her fore and aft 10.5 cm guns so she had no forward or aft firepower, an her good coal ran out after a stern chase and she slowed to a speed that she could be caught by the Brooklyn armored cruiser and Oregon Battleship. Even the 18 knot USS Texas was in the hunt although it has been temporarily slowed by a maneuver of the Brooklyn earlier in the fight. Properly coaled and suppled the MT class cruisers were excellent blue water vessels for the defense of Spanish seas but not intended to fight in the line of battle with Battleships.

[@Vbertz]

In addition to its poor quality of design and materials, not having been adequately prepared for the battle greatly influenced its performance as well, they could not stop the fires on board once they had started, their weapons were poorly calibrated, this would later be revealed, going out to face battleships that were waiting for them was more than a terrible decision on the part of the high command who knew that those cruisers would not survive the battle, I am aware that there was no chance for them, in fact I am working on a project to recreate said confrontation and show that however different the circumstances of the Spanish were, that battle was lost before it had started, thanks for the contribution to the channel, it is worth gold.

[@dantedemoniodenephilim1429]

@@Vbertz t is really funny that they talk about a specific model but not that they did everything possible to lose the war because there was a pact between US and Spanish Masons.all the new data points out that the Spanish had better precision, absurd maneuvers that go against common sense and that their best ships did not enter into battle like the battleship Pelayo and even losing all the ships the United States could not have taken the Philippines with 6 ships at anchor and 200,000 troops in the islands.there is a video with English subtitles where they dismantle the myth with data that the navy was insufficient when it was the 4th and other nonsense.there is a video with English subtitles where they dismantle the myth with data that the navy was insufficient when it was the 4th and other nonsense. There is a video with subtitles to activate in English where the myth is dismantled with data that the navy was insufficient when it was the 4th in the world and other nonsense .... : kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5TUhmCLe9B6gqs

[@Vbertz]

@dantedemoniodenephilim1429 Thanks for your contribution. It is true that the Spanish lost the war on purpose. Some people here speak of Spanish naval inferiority, but we are talking about a country with a naval tradition and merits in this area. Personally, I think that not much could have been done since the battle had been lost before it began.

[@dantedemoniodenephilim1429]

@@Vbertz The battle was lost since they purposely put the ships in a place where they could only leave one by one like ducks at a fair, besides the other officers thought Cervera's decisions were too strange for logistics, battle, etc. Let's remember that the USA at that time were not even close to what they were in the Second World War and was equal or inferior to the Spanish in many aspects. There were other battles in that war where U.S. ships were sunk with much less, it is very well to exalt with propaganda that the U.S. was great in sea battles at that time when it was not so, not even Spain used the submarine with torpedoes selling plans to England, etc. If that is not treason.

[@a41166]

Poco a poco, ya que no se le da mucha difusión, se sabrá de forma generalizada la traición a España y los españoles de sus dirigentes políticos y de algunos altos cargos militares que llevaron a perder una guerra contra EEUU cuando se tenían las condiciones militares suficientes para haberles derrotado. Igualmente algún día se sabrá todo sobre el atentado del 11M y de qué país con la ayuda de su "amigo fraterno" fue quien lo llevó a cabo.

[@Abelelproff]

Good job👍

[@koopilot90]

Really good rendering

[@oscarb2407]

AMAZING!

[@alexanderscorp6673]

Very cool done! I also thought about making a model of some kind of battleship, but I don’t have enough time

[@erigmarbainmendoza954]

Super bueno que te quedo bro

[@Vbertz]

@@erigmarbainmendoza954 mil gracias bro, se intenta hacer lo mejor

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Thanks great history of under appreciated warships fighting in war getting hurriedly Glossed over at best!

[@FireDragon16180]

Looks very good

[@Vbertz]

Thanks

[@jaxric8518]

The entire campaign of the Spanish-American War was surely the price that the Spanish government paid to show that it had put up some resistance in order to try to hold on to territories that it had known for decades that it could not hold on to for much longer. Admiral Cervera himself, when he received the express order from the Spanish government to take his ships out of Santiago de Cuba to confront the American fleet, was fully aware that he, his ships and his men were part of this useless gesture of armed resistance. Even if he had had his fleet fully prepared, armed and ready, the terrible tactical inferiority of leaving one by one through the narrow bay of Santiago de Cuba with ships inferior in tonnage, armor and firepower, each of them facing alone the shots of the American fleet that shot them down as they left, would probably have been enough on its own to lose the battle. A sacrifice on the altar of nineteenth-century honor. Not to mention the land war on the island, with a garrison of more than 200,000 men who remained in barracks without moving, except for a few minor units that were charged with "staging" an act of armed resistance directed at the public opinion of Spain and Europe. Surrendering Cuba without a single shot would have been inconceivable, but having faced serious long-term resistance would have been worse in terms of human and, above all, economic costs that were impossible to bear at that time.

[@danielalabrada-n6v]

Eres genial 🙏🙏🙏nunk lo imagine 🙏

[@Vbertz]

@@danielalabrada-n6v jajaja sorpresa jaja

[@mz0pp4]

Cervera’s strategy in the Battle of Santiago failed by not using the destroyers first to harass and weaken the Americans, allowing the Vizcaya-class cruisers to face the battleships in direct combat, which they were not designed for. According to the theory of the “Jeune École,” their role was for quick attacks, not frontal engagements, exposing them to a more powerful enemy.

[@Vbertz]

I think the same, the ships left the bay at least 700 meters apart, giving the American force the opportunity to concentrate fire on the Infanta Maria Teresa, despite having torpedoes with a range of 800m they never used them, their weapons calibrated for 4000 shots were inefficient, I think the destroyers would have created the opportunity for the squadron to come out better, victory was difficult, almost impossible, but a more glorious battle could have been fought, thanks for the contribution to the channel.

[@mz0pp4]

If Cervera had followed the advice of his chief of staff, Bustamante, and had left at night with the destroyers leading, the Spanish fleet would likely have had a better chance of escaping. This strategy would have allowed them to disorganize the American fleet and provided better concealment for the retreat. Leaving under the cover of darkness would have reduced visibility and enabled the ships to escape toward Havana, where he was actually ordered to go. This decision could have changed the outcome of the battle and preserved part of the Spanish fleet.

[@Vbertz]

@mz0pp4 Of course! The decisions made by the Spanish command were not adequate for the situation. Going out at night with ships mostly painted black would have helped to conceal them a lot. I am from Santiago, the exit from the Bay on a normal night is very dark, the mountains darken and look black and the shape of the bay itself would have helped in some way, but going out to fight during the day, in inferiority and with the plan they used, it seems that Cervera was sacrificing his squadron on purpose or that they were led by someone inexperienced. ​

[@mz0pp4]

Are you from Santiago? I am Spanish, but I have family in Cuba and have been to Santiago many times. When I’m in Santiago, I live in Vista Alegre, and I love Santiago. And yes, according to the documents that are emerging, it seems that it was all part of a plan to hand the island over to the USA, that’s right. I’ll also put it in English for the rest of the readers. ¿Eres de Santiago?. Yo soy español pero tengo familia en Cuba y he estado muchas veces en Santiago. Cuando estoy en Santiago vivo en Vista Alegre, amo Santiago. Y sí, según parece por las documentaciones que están apareciendo, parece ser que todo fue parte de un plan para entregar la isla a USA, así es. Lo pongo también en Inglés para el resto de lectores.

[@Vbertz]

@@mz0pp4 @mz0pp4 wow es mas que genial! nos une la historia, yo vivo cerca del puerto desde donde partieron los buques, tengo buenas amistades en vista alegre. Decidí hacer una especie de homenaje a estos buques pues fueron indebidamente sacrificados, sin un fin logico y sin proposito mas que encubrir corrupcion. Los hombres que lucharon en estos barcos, dieron su vida por un gobierno que los envió a morir sin necesidad, merecen ser homenajeados por su valor Wow, that's more than great! We are united by history. I live near the port from which the ships set sail. I have good friends in Vista Alegre. I decided to make a kind of tribute to these ships because they were unduly sacrificed, without a logical end and without any purpose other than to cover up corruption. The men who fought on these ships gave their lives for a government that sent them to die unnecessarily. They deserve to be honored for their courage.

[@DamienQuille]

Joli bâtiment. Merci d'utiliser le système métrique..... D.

[@evertsonaguilar5554]

Superrr

[@arielmiranda15]

🎉Excelente.. es como si se hubiera recontruido un modelo perdido en la historia. Cuanto tiempo te llevo? Con que software modelaste?

[@Vbertz]

@@arielmiranda15muchas gracias. Lo busqué y no encontré en ningun sitio, así que sentí que debía hacerlo, empecé a recopilar toda la info que pude y poca fue la que encontré. Utilicé 3dsmax 2015 y substaince painter para el texturizado, todo el proceso me tomó al menos una semana.

[@arielmiranda15]

Bro Entonces es mas impresionante que lo hayas tenido que modelar con tan pocas referencias a tu disposición.¿ El documental tambien tuviste que producirlo?

[@Vbertz]

@@arielmiranda15 pues sí, utilicé Unity para montarlo todo al final, fueron muuuchas escenas y muuchos cambios de iluminacion para el resultado final, de hecho demoró mas que el proceso de modelado Fué arduo pero divertido y gratificante.

[@No-dy3zk]

New subscriber here.

[@Vbertz]

Welcome to the channel, thank you very much, I hope that when it starts again, the historic engine will provide you with the quality material you deserve.

[@sheriffshifty1953]

Sabaton-Drradnought song kicks in

[@sergueiothonucci1638]

😃😃😃

[@RCPowerbusByProxy]

In the animation the props are running in reverse…

[@Vbertz]

You're right, I'll keep that in mind for the next one.

[@lordwintertown8284]

G'day, I guess by chance I clicked on this but damn that's a nicely modelled ACR. Maybe I should start reading up on Spanish ACR's after having read about British, American, Japanese, French & German Armoured Cruisers (probably most famous of the type being the Scharnhorst class of the Kaiserliche Marine).

[@Vbertz]

Thank you very much, I hope to be able to get the historic engine to tackle several of these incredible ships and other historic pieces, trying to achieve the best possible result within my capacity. I hope you like the section and I invite you to come back whenever you want.

[@jhnoakez]

Beautiful renders ruined by crappy AI voiceover 😩

[@Vbertz]

@@jhnoakez I'm sorry but between the fact that I don't currently have a microphone and my voice isn't the best for doing voiceovers, I think that between the AI ​​and my voice recorded with my cell phone, the quality of the material would be worse 😅 and neither you nor anyone else deserves to spend time watching a poor quality product, I will work on improving this aspect and thanks for the praise for the renders as well.😁

[@Melonist]

​@@Vbertz fair tbh

[@No-dy3zk]

@@VbertzDrach did his videos with AI voice originally. I honestly like this voice.

[@Quert_Zuiopue]

​@@Vbertz A real voiveover with your crappy smartphone micro would still be better than AI.

[@HMSHOOD1920]

Stupid comment. The AI voiceover is actually quite alright.

[@nathanbalin6564]

Amazing video, You have the potential to be Great with these types of educational vids. I really wanna see more video's like this. (An alternative for the AI voice-over would be nice tho)

[@Vbertz]

Wow, thanks for the nice words, I'm very excited to know that you liked the video a lot, which drives me to create more, right now I'm preparing the second video of this section, which I hope you like as much or more than this one, and that the historical engine never stops! Thank you so much

[@abcdedfg8340]

Please stop using the ai voice. It's really annoying.

[@katrinapaton5283]

Beautiful 3D rendering and good looking ships. Tragic end though, their on paper strength not matching their real world performance.

[@Vbertz]

@@katrinapaton5283 In my opinion, they were not bad designs, they were just very poorly used, because in the naval battle of Santiago de Cuba, they fought against battleships, at a numerical disadvantage and with poorly calibrated weapons, poor distribution of ammunition and a poorly planned combat strategy, the ships met their enemies with 700m of separation, a whole amalgam of errors that led to their fateful end.

[@Vbertz]

@@katrinapaton5283 And thank you very much for the compliments, they mean a lot.

[@jetmec]

Please cut the volume of the music,

[@Vbertz]

I will keep this in mind for the next engine start. Thank you very much.

[@arthurwadsworth4311]

Narrator only discusses guns and armour. What about the two triple expansion recipes?

[@Vbertz]

You're right, I only focused the video mostly on the armament and armor leaving aside something very important like maneuverability and propulsion, "triple expansion" refers to a type of steam engine used in naval propulsion right. This ship uses an engine that in turn uses three stages of expansion to improve the efficiency of steam, which allowed ships of the time to reach higher speeds and consume less fuel. Although these ships did not introduce this improvement, they did benefit from it. Thank you very much for the contribution. It means a lot and helps improve the content, current and future.

[@vespelian]

Just how did this end design change naval history?

[@Vbertz]

According to the information I found on the subject, which was not much, these ships were the first armored cruisers built in Spain and were inspired by the British cruisers of the Orlando class. Their design included heavier armor and larger guns, which represented an advance in the naval technology of the time. Despite their tragic fate, their poor use and performance in battle, which was largely due to mechanical problems, and their poor construction materials due to cutbacks and low budgets at the time of their construction, despite all this, the ships of the Infanta María Teresa class represented a significant advance in Spanish naval technology of the time. Perhaps in the script I should have been more specific.

[@vespelian]

@@Vbertz Thanks for the response. I found the video very informative. Drachinfal did a Five Minute Minute Guide on the class a few years ago and this added a lot more. They were part of an experimental type of armoured cruiser with battleship grade guns popular in the early 1890's such as the three units built in France for Japan and fighting at the battle of Yalow. The type proved a dead end. Strangely enough I first heard about this ship in a book about cat stories my mother gave me as a child. About the Maria's ship's cat sticking with the wreck as the Americans tried to salvage her and the cat eventually being adopted by them. I don't know if the story has any veracity but it was very specific to Infanta Maria. I seem to remember the salvaged wreck coming to grief off Cat island in the Bahamas.

[@Vbertz]

@@vespelian I once heard something similar but I looked for information and I didn't find anything about it, it's an interesting anecdote and it's very curious that you knew about the ship thanks to the story of a cat, it's more than great, thank you very much for sharing

[@daaa3932]

@@Vbertz I was about to say ... When you mentioned they changed history I immediately thought; "Yeah, they changed history all right - by being sunk by a third rate navy in their first actual engagement!"

[@samfromportadown]

It looks like something from 40k.

[@BaronvonOldenBiker]

You've got to hand it to the Spanish. They had a history of fancy ships.

[@Vbertz]

Yes, they had a very nice and interesting navy, unfortunately their poor performance was largely due to bad decisions by their high command.

[@renesagahon4477]

A Century before they Built some of the best warships in the world …Unfortunately They were manned By them as well,Or even worse slave labor from their colonies

[@Vbertz]

​@@renesagahon4477How can we forget the largest ship of the line in history, the "Santisima Trinidad" lost in the Battle of Trafalgar. Another great ship taken into a poorly commanded battle.

[@renesagahon4477]

@@Vbertz Exactly she was the biggest ship of the world at the time …Black with red bands across her hull …Stunning Vessel

[@seankane8628]

Out gunned and out classed

[@gothicalpha]

This is great! I subscribed Recommendation though there are 2 games where you can basically re build ships in. NavalArt Ultimate Admiral Dreadnought, where you can sail and fight them

[@Vbertz]

In fact yes, very good recommendations, I play both and I was able to create a replica that resembled this class and face them in battle with the American battleships recreating the naval battle of Santiago de Cuba, even though they did not come out well F. but very buy contribution, thank you very much and welcome to the channel

[@ИгорьМиль-с1к]

Armour deck data is incorrect. Probably this data is not about upper deck)

[@Vbertz]

@@ИгорьМиль-с1к The little detailed information I found dictated that the deck armor was that, there is probably a possibility that I am wrong due to lack of information, if you know the correct information it would be more than great if you share it.

[@ИгорьМиль-с1к]

​@@Vbertzarmor deck is on level of waterline inside hull of armour crusers and protected crusers, above steam boilers, machines and shell cellars

[@tinacofactory]

González Hontoria... nada de Gonsales ni Gonzales, que no estamos en Sudamérica.

[@Vbertz]

Solo faltó la tilde, pero igual es un error que corregiré a furuto, gracias y por favor el español es universal. Gracias por el aporte

[@jonatascastilhos3779]

Much more hostorycal engine.

[@ธวัชชัยทองยา-ส8ง]

ทองแดง ศักดิ์ไฟฟ้า

[@ธวัชชัยทองยา-ส8ง]

อนุภาค อนิเมชั่น อุณหภูมิ12c°

[@thomaslinton5765]

All three sunk easily. Obsolecent when launched.

[@Vbertz]

Although the Infanta Maria Teresa class ships faced serious difficulties and were unable to hold out in the Battle of Santiago de Cuba, it cannot be said that they were completely obsolete when launched. Designed with the technology and naval knowledge of the time, the ships faced superior naval forces and suffered serious damage under extremely challenging conditions during the battle. Naval technology was advancing rapidly in that period, and advances in designs and armaments often rendered newly built ships obsolete. They were not sunk during the actual battle, but were beached and abandoned by their crews after suffering severe damage. This occurred after the battle, and many of them were burned or sunk afterwards. It was a sad but inevitable outcome given the circumstances of the engagement and the superiority of the American fleet.

[@thomaslinton5765]

@@Vbertz Built with inadequate armor - relatively and absolutely.

[@thomaslinton5765]

@@Vbertz It's only Wiki, but it represents the expert consensus: "[T]heir protection was poor. The [inadequate] armor belt was narrow and stretched for only [sic] two-thirds of the length of the hulls, the main guns had only lightly armored hoods, the 5.5-inch guns were mounted in the open on the upper deck, and the ships had a high, unprotected freeboard.[3] Their upper decks were planked-over beams without steel plating.[4] The ships also were heavily decorated and furnished with wood, which the Spanish failed to remove before combat and which would feed fires after enemy shell hits."

[@matthewrosa7262]

"COLOSSUS OF THE SEA" ? -The U.S. Navy Armored Cruiser, The U.S.S. BROOKLYN (At 400 Ft, 6 In.) Was The BIGGEST Ship On EITHER Navy Of The Spanish-American War! -Making The INFANTA MARIA TERESA's 364 Ft. Look Kinda' Whimpy In Comparison!

[@ธวัชชัยทองยา-ส8ง]

อลูมิเนียม

[@jaimete0589]

Buen vídeo 2:20 una errata 280--> 180 mm

[@Vbertz]

Muchisimas grácias, tienes razón son de 140mm no de 280mm, hubiesen sido baterias principales en los laterales del buque.

[@jaimete0589]

@@Vbertz aún así el audio dice 180mm osea que está bien, es el vídeo

[@HMSHOOD1920]

Don’t listen to these people, the AI voiceover ain’t that bad, although yes, there are some areas in need of improvement.

[@HMSHOOD1920]

Other than that, it’s like I said: quite alright.

[@GolfKilo]

Heavily overweathered model. These ships represented the pride of their nations, it was a question of honour to keep them in good condition. A ship looking like a rusty bucket directly pointed to a lack of discipline and bad seamanship. The "oil canning effect", inbound deformation of surfaces, are here shown nearly over the complete hull, but in reality they never occured on armored areas. The propellers are rotating backwards. It´s obvious that the videos creator has no clue what he´s talking about.

[@Vbertz]

In fact, wanting to imitate in a certain way the appearance and quality of details of a World of Warships model, I included the dents in the hull trying not to place them in more armored areas, I added rust to the anchors and to the ship in general, a satire on how poorly the Spanish maintained these ships that, during their final battle, they even took training and defective ammunition to the battle. I think I know what I'm doing and sometimes part of the art is to exaggerate certain visual aspects to highlight them, you could notice it and I'm very glad that it was like that, that was the objective, it's not perfect because I'm just starting and I will perfect my art, anyway thank you very much for the comment, it helps a lot

[@lucianene7741]

Rather poor commentary. Why was this class of ships supposed to "change the course of naval history"? Just singing its praises is not enough, you need to provide some context, how did they compare against contemporary similar ships?

[@ธวัชชัยทองยา-ส8ง]

มีเทน^ มีเทน

[@timkohler]

Beautiful ships, I'm very fond of these, but they were fairly awful, with a very poor armour layout, even if it was quite thick. Fairly awful script, needs to provide some better context with their equivalents. This is just (very nice) eye candy.

[@Vbertz]

@@timkohler Hi timkholer, in fact thanks to the feedback received I am working on bringing to the channel a video where the capabilities of these ships and their counterparts are compared. At first the idea was to show the entire battle and details of the ships that participated but the limitations in terms of references made it difficult for me to model them all, I am working on improving for the next episode, thanks for the comment, it helps a lot.

[@charlesharper2357]

A third rate ship that never influenced anything.

[@ธวัชชัยทองยา-ส8ง]

พลาสติกโฟม

[@Ren-vv5on]

Nice video but please don’t use the Ai voiceover

[@Vbertz]

@@Ren-vv5on Hello, thank you very much, I take into account that it is not really the best solution but I wanted to deliver a video with the best quality and recording with the mobile phone that I currently have would have greatly reduced the audio quality, I have plans to improve that in the future, thanks for the comment it helps and means a lot

[@Ren-vv5on]

@@Vbertz that’s understandable, video was great so keep up the good work. You earned a new sub :)

[@picardbs]

Colossus of the sea? She was a mediocre cruiser outclassed by dozen of contemporary european cruisers !

[@Vbertz]

@@picardbs I actually think that any military vessel can be considered a colossus, one of the largest machines that humanity has ever created. This type of cruiser really had many drawbacks, such as a lack of a budget in accordance with the project, poor equipment and poor use. It is completely true that other navies had more competent counterpart vessels.

[@aureliojaneiro]

Thanks, you moron of the seas...

[@A.LeeMorrisJr]

The problem was the tech was advancing so rapidly, many warship designs were practically obsolete by the time they launched.

[@FrankReddick]

You are kidding. These pieces of badly designed and badly built ships were easily torn apart by ships barely better built than they were. The proof in battle is the evidence of their actual poor quality..

[@Vbertz]

Of course, if I understand what you say and you are right too, the objective of the video is not to discredit the ship itself, but to show its characteristics in a striking way like the one that sold the same idea of ​​building it to the Spanish. They were poorly armed, they were poorly used under a doctrine that led them to failure and a large part of their poor performance was due in large part to their poor quality of materials, training and use in battle. As an example of a good ship with bad use we have the Yamato and the Bismarck, two legends that were poorly used by their navies unlike their American and British counterparts that used better complemented naval combat groups.

[@Karthagast]

"The proof in battle is the evidence..." of NOTHING!!! Everybody having a bit of knowledge about naval history knows that the outcome of a naval battle can be atributed to a wide range of factors, just as in the case of Santiago de Cuba battle. It is rarely "proof" of any flaws in warship design or construction. You talk about "badly designed and badly built ships" without giving a single data or argument to base your judgement on those warships. Obviously you know very little to nothing about the Spanish-American war of 1898, the naval doctrines used at that time or the state of naval design and naval construction in the last decade of 19th century.

[@stabsfeldwebel7309]

Серьезно сделанная вещь!

[@Vbertz]

Большое спасибо, было весело найти информацию, смоделировать все и впервые собрать этот мини-документальный фильм. Приятно осознавать, что он был хорошо принят. Большое спасибо.