History of "Shoot To Reset" - Stupid Shit I Heard This Week Vol. 3

[@freefieldtraining]

It's always nice to hear from someone who isn't saying things just to be inflamatory and to make a name for themselves. Your experience and expertise shows even without your credentials. You should have a million subscribers.

[@chiggerx9407]

Dave your explanation & history of trigger reset will make me a better trainer. Thanks!

[@Dru20]

Thank you Dave. Your insight and thoughtfulness show your mastery of the craft more so than your ability to put rounds on target.

[@johngrunwell]

Great explanation on the use of that trigger finger. As a longtime rifle competition shooter, the control of the trigger finger is quite different. In bullseye rifle shooting, you press and hold, press and hold until the shot goes as a means to maintain that perfect optic alignment. In pistol, the trigger control is quite different. As you mentioned quite well, the whole hand tends to follow the trigger finger (in a pistol grip) as in most hands the dominant finger of all. Why the firm grip of the dominant hand and that use of the support hand pressure to not only to control recoil, but the pressure applied onto the dominant hand lower fingers mediate that natural movement of all fingers to follow the trigger finger press. Also I might add, when the trigger finger follows thru on the press, maintaining it constant pressure (not relaxing it) greatly helps the hand to mediate the resultant rise of the recoil. This also applies in the off-hand mode (single hand). It helps the whole hand to off-set that muzzle rise. For me, applied to the trigger press, once I find that “wall”, I will momentary hold that wall until the sight is on where I choose I give a deliberate (quick) press, not a jerk! IT’S NOT A RIFLE PRESS, not a press and hold for a better alignment. As I come off the recoil and regaining my targeting control, my trigger finger follows out until I feel that reset and again ready to press “quickly” as my sight again finds the target. Just as you mention with the gas pedal and clutch, timing is the key and has to be “trained” thru practice and practice. For most, nothing in hand gun performance is natural but there are a few that have great natural ability, I’m not one and must practice and offend to maintain the timing and trigger finger control. At home the use of a mounted laser gives me positive mediate feedback on my use of my finger press as well as either off-hand control or combat grip control as that laser beam should NOT move, but stay solidly fixed on that spot I want to destroy. Good trigger finger control won’t help if your not controlling the whole platform as you most accurately pointed out. How one places his whole trigger finger on or along the frame is one I see a lot at the range where some have that finger cocked away from the frame, esp. on smaller frame pistols. Like too much finger. Going from a G19 to a G42, that heal to trigger is quite different. But always, I keep my trigger finger along the frame to maintaining a sideways press or pressure along the frame, but not to interfere with the movement of my trigger press. I’ve spent hours at home using the laser to prove my grip, between various frames and my trigger control, then prove my progress under live fire. Concepts as you so accurately point out as to what should be is so hard to realize until one thoughtfully tries to employ those concepts under a live fire recoil and shot placement on paper. Again another great video.

[@Shinobi1Kenobi]

As an "old guy" like you who lived through all of this as a professional, it amazes me that trigger control fundamentals like maintaining contact with the trigger during shot strings and using minimal finger pressure to accomplish the job no matter what kind of action have become "controversial." The "death grip" method may work for 2-handed shooting, but it is very destructive of accuracy when shooting one-handed. Then there's the whole conservation of energy (efficiency) fundamental of ALL combatives that it violates: muscle tension takes energy and slows movement AND reaction time (introducing "noise" into the CNS). Getting the job done with the least expenditure of energy (minimal exertion) is a base line strategy for victory in combat.

[@mpccenturion]

Thank you, been a handgunner since 79. I shied away from DA Rev. SA Rev were my interest. I used them wherever they (Matches) would let me. Since 2010 I used a 1911. As you can understand, I look for the older guys, who have shot a long time for my intake. I was a kid, who got good advice from Police and WW1 and 2, Vets. They were very practical back in the 70's. I enjoy the history you provide. Cheers

[@wrightearl34]

Keeping the beginner mind that’s the key thanks for that Dave.

[@ZombieTactics]

Valuable history and perspective ... this goes in the "Grimoire".

[@JimFosterVO]

Thanks for the history and perspective, Dave. Your background and analysis provides excellent context for discussing these issues.

[@mmrtactical7764]

You're a wealth of knowledge Dave! I always learn something new...

[@Bayan1905]

I remember when I shot revolvers and got into law enforcement and was handed a Glock 21 as my duty pistol at the range. I got used to the reset pretty quickly but I had a good instructor who showed us how to use the reset. Most people don't know, at least not in the beginning, how to use the reset to their advantage. A lot of dry firing, a lot of practice at the range.

[@dslag7812]

Thanks for the video. I remember when Illinois State Police were the first to get semiautomatic sidearms. They spent a lot of time on training them to transition from revolvers.

[@stevekatz4372]

It is good to know all about How your gun works and the best way to control the trigger when shooting. Even better is learning to shoot a Revolver before you ever touch a semi auto pistol. I was fortunate to be trained on a S&W Model 10 Revolver when I became a Armed Security Officer. I carried and qualified with this Revolver for at least 10 years before we were able to switch to the semi auto pistols. So my initial experience and training with the semi auto Glock 19 pistol was a very easy transition for me because I had the experience of both platforms. I still love the Revolver and I think every serious gun person should have at least one Revolver!

[@herbvergara1]

Excellent content, thank you Mr. Spaulding. Apparently the out-spoken whipper snapper needs more practical experience grounded in context. Reminds me of how inexperienced blue belt TKD students will learn fancy shmansy spinning back kick but will come back the next week with black eyes because they got their butts whipped trying out their new move. They hadn't learned yet that it's a combination move and needs setting up in order to be effective.

[@MrRufusjax]

Love the history on "shooting to reset".

[@CKCSGeoff]

Excellent video Dave, thank you!

[@doctorhouse1631]

Great video, Dave. I appreciate you sharing your wisdom.

[@dalepritchard3335]

As a new shooter that is not very accurate I think I just learned something that will help me improve my groups. Thanks Dave.

[@montanaannie1253]

I have a Womans shooting group & I always stress this. The NRA calls it "Follow Through" Same concept for taking pictures-you hold the camera still even after it goes "click" because if you don't, your picture is blurry

[@handguncombatives]

Never thought about it in that context, good pt

[@douglassnyder1292]

Very good insight and presentation. Full of good thoughts and information. I have no idea how you did that video in one take, un-spliced, and un-edited. I have my own channel (RC plane stuff), and that is impossible for me to do. Great job.

[@handguncombatives]

Dave is a one-take wonder. It blows my mind, 90% of the time we do these in one take. -Camera Guy

[@michaelurig5883]

Interesting video. "Resetting the trigger" has actually been around at least since the early 1900's. I believe the term used then and still today "staging the trigger" when using a double action revolver. Slightly different technique than one might use on a Glock' but same end result of having the trigger/hammer back, cylinder rotated and lock into position with the next round to be fired at the "single action" trigger weight. Any good moving target shot worth his salt back in those day used this technique if he/she sought to achieve consistent results.

[@jimmyflores7586]

Excellent. Thanks Dave.

[@mmathesh8559]

excellent, and great teaching as always

[@bobhartman2571]

Thanks Dave!.

[@fin_jan]

The bashed black fingernail provides nice contrast for the demonstration. Good thinking.

[@ArtietheArchon]

glad I gave this video a chance, good stuff

[@jerryziegner]

As always, great points made.

[@carloparisi9945]

Very interesting, this is the first time this matter is explained to me in its logical nature. Some tend to get dogmatic about the reset and I think it's not always a good thing. As a revolver shooter, I have certain habits that may influence me, still, I find that I need to stay in contact with the trigger (as you say), with all weapons but not to follow the reset practice slavishly. As a matter of fact, in one handed bullseye work with semiautomatics, I find that resetting works well, but going all the way forward and taking the slack off, as the gun recoils, works better, at least in the 5 shots in 10 seconds, but I need to stay in contact with the trigger, to do it without ramming the trigger and diverting the muzzle.

[@D5quared91]

I love Mr. Dave Spaulding. He a nice man and so many achievement for the shooting. Congrats and LOVE him ! ! :D

[@keeganjacobs5913]

This man has great tips. Do you give classes in Arizona ?

[@NorthWriter]

Second video of yours that I've seen, and I appreciate your thoughts. I think it's a byproduct of our social media society that people like that guy at the SHOT show say things like, "Anybody who does/doesn't do ________________________ is an asshole." People don't seem to feel like they have to censor themselves for the sake of sounding like a decent human being, and I think we're worse off for it. Anyway, I'm intrigued by what I'm seeing so far, and I'm looking forward to more!

[@onpsxmember]

Helpful. Do you think there is a right time to teach this or that there'll be more unwanted doubles with shorter and shorter resets?

[@YotaDaryl]

Outstanding. Well versed sir. Impressed

[@gew1898]

Excellent video.

[@ibapa888]

Nice. Very informative vid. Thank you.

[@cwsmith17]

Thank you for your great insights!

[@bmcneil112]

#Great Info! 😎

[@billkemp5001]

Excellent ... You nailed it as usual , They were way over there head ... You can tell at what level they are at ..... We will always overhear something ... I kind of chuckle to myself when i hear it ........... great Video

[@N98858]

...PEOPLE~Good Stuff Dave...Thanks ';-)

[@GreyGhost-r4z]

Awesome video !!

[@stevekatz4372]

I was trained on Revolvers and then started to shoot semi autos and finished my career with a Glock 19 as my duty weapon. In today's world, just about everyone starts shooting the semi autos and many never even get to shoot the Revolver. Police, Security, Military and other agencies all go with the semi auto platforms for obvious reasons. I would strongly suggest to all new shooters, if possible, buy at least one good Revolver and learn to shoot it well, then go to the semi auto guns. You will ultimately become a much better all around shooter and develop a much better understanding of firearms! Pistol grip and trigger control are the two most important elements in your training and if you practice these, everything else will become easy to master! Good Luck!

[@willws2conceptsshephard]

To the 6 people who disliked this, put the weapon down and slowly back away.

[@harpjason208]

Thanks for the excellent tutorial.

[@usernamemykel]

The method doesn't work with my Ruger .380 LCP. It appears to be double-action for each shot, that is, the trigger needs to go all the way forward to it's original position to reset.

[@davesaints8023]

I shoot to reset. I was taught that by my academy firearms instructor. Anytime I hear people talk bad about people shooting from reset think there pretty ignorant. I know the reset has helped me in my shooting. Can I learn to shoot without a reset? Yes, I can also choose to shoot a handgun with a SA/DA gun too. I would have to train a SA/DA weapon and that technique. However, I choose to shoot striker fired pistols (Glocks mostly) and with the rest and I have not looked back. If anyone says, poeple who use a reset are a$$hols or can't shoot, then they live in the past and their set in ways and pretty ignorant. If you can't respect someone's shooting style, then that's on them. Hopefully there not instructors. Great video Dave

[@longrider50]

Good explanation. Thx.

[@sergionatali3071]

This is another interesting video.

[@theprepperrevelator]

Great video from a great teacher! Thank you sir! To the 3 stooges that disliked this video Id love to know how many students you train every year and post a picture of your instructor of the year award! Exactly what I thought go back to your moms basement! Trolls!

[@tmikesecrist3]

This is the first Time I ever heard of of shooting to reset.... But then I have shot more with Single action. A colt 1871 clone, then a 1911....

[@russianoleg]

good info, thanks

[@martinsa19]

My understanding is "shoot to reset" is from rifle shooting pre-WWII. I did a quick search and found this article that seems to confirm it: blog.beretta.com/trigger-reset-is-important? It might be later onset of use for pistols, but it was certainly applicable to the M1 Garand.

[@ScottAT]

This is the first I have heard of this as a real issue. Perhaps I am showing my age however I have for example been able to shoot a Glock very fast by taking up the draw on the range, yet would never advocate that in combative use for newcomers. What he is showing on his 3913 is a great example of this discussion. My Browning BDM is the same way, and being the dual mode gun, was designed for that transition. Look up the BDM and it's unique system. To hear that there is a discussion over this is basically silly in this age, and likely only inexperienced persons would say such a thing.

[@songgut]

How did you like John Wick 2? You said you liked the first one

[@BillHesse]

I guess I am just uninformed....why would you want the finger moving further than it needs to? The only thing I have come up with my wife will short stroke the trigger sometimes and I cue to let the trigger all the way out because it is relevant to an error she makes. Is there some other reason for going all the way back out, my fried at the FBI was taught to let the trigger come all the way out on his service firearm I noticed recently.

[@nateperryshootingsports6201]

The problem with all this is the majority of people who are taught trigger pinning are never going to outgrow it simply because it was taught to them 1st. The primacy effect. While we don't know if Mr. loudmouth knew the history of trigger pinning, that matter very little in that there are few if any highly skilled practical shooters in sport or in service who use or teach trigger pinning to students who are expected to achieve high performance.

[@dlj66839]

I still teach trigger reset to new and basic shooters.

[@tedleonard6426]

in comparison I am a newbie, thanks for the history.

[@Elicid1965]

Great video. To me it just makes sense! Why would you NOT minimize the actual use of your trigger finger? Indeed, what you heard at the show was some stupid shit! I enjoy all your videos, very informative, thanks!

[@taylorharbin3948]

When I saw the title I thought he meant shooting a DA/SA auto hurriedly to go from DA to SA mode, and I was thinking “What’s this guy on about? Of course that’s a bad practice!” Oops 😅

[@johnplaid648]

Yeah they go into the revolver and polish the articulating surfaces or replace components with other components that wear better and have less friction. And for what? Six friggen bullets?

[@scdave100]

Some people open their mouth about subjects they know absolutely nothing about!

[@ParasidicGeneration]

Freedom Forged reminds me of politicians

[@71wicker]

No it's just another display of ignorance, my personal feeling!! I've been hearing that quite a bit myself. I think the armchair shooter is finally venturing out and from time to time you catch them opening up his big mouth. Get some training bro! Good to see you love your videos keep it up brother!

[@dudeistpriest787]

No amount or quality of training fixes stupid, my friend - it just gives stupid a false sense of competence.

[@rogerdane3253]

Thank you... amazing how the gun community will be populated by extremists who believe that anything they do is the only way to do it. Experience, as displayed here, is the only answer but (for those who talk as the gunshow mouth did) "it keeps a dear school and a fool will learn in no other"... constant contact/control on the firearm is the goal and maintaining trigger contact is part of it as is grip, both instructed here. Thanks for the cogent instruction.

[@GookBulletproof]

i just discovered this bitch. i like him. subscribed.

[@LuisGarcia-pt7wv]

Nice tutorial. Minimal

[@brandonmugele2224]

Don't learn how to utilize the reset and pickup a pistol that you're not used to. Short stroke the trigger and you just missed an entire shot. Why wouldn't you use this piece of feedback from your gun???

[@usernamemykel]

Humans aren't that "unique", having opposable thumbs, after all, didn't Chucky Darwin create monkeys and apes?

[@oldcop18]

My guess these phony commandos have never been in a gunfight or heard a shot fired in anger.

[@bldlightpainting]

"Profanity proves neither toughness nor intelligence; only a lack of self-control, respect, morals, maturity, language skills and character." -Sgt. Harper

[@PalmettoDissident]

BLD Lightpainting Fuck all that!

[@bldlightpainting]

Grow up, son! “Profanity is the common crutch of the conversational cripple.” David Keuck

[@clplusp8762]

Arghhh😫quit dry firing that smith revolver!