History of the First Macintosh!

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@jdmcs
@jdmcs 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad Maccy transferred back to the SE/30 before permanent memory loss happened!
@USERCODY
@USERCODY 6 ай бұрын
It's incredible how influential that GUI was. Especially Mac Paint! Love your videos, Kate!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@JackBender
@JackBender 6 ай бұрын
The SGI Octane in the background deserves its own video. I'm pretty sure it's not just there for decoration!
@Jaxermd
@Jaxermd 6 ай бұрын
Send Maccy to the Octane and have him go mad with power!
@HalianTheProtogen
@HalianTheProtogen 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video from her long-lost twin sister, the IRIX Curator. :þ
@EricGranata
@EricGranata 6 ай бұрын
Oh man. About a million years ago I did a stint in the graphics department at a news affiliate. The art director pointed out their Octane and told me, “If you ever see the ownership group in the building, slide over to this machine and try to make something. But during broadcast, just use Photoshop on the Mac Quadras.” He hated that thing 🤣 but I guess the owners really wanted to feel good about their investment and hated to see it not used.
@chrislaustin
@chrislaustin 6 ай бұрын
Holy crap, has it been 40 years? Christ I'm old, I can still remember that famous ad that ran for the Superbowl that year. And living in LA, we also got the Olympic games that year as well, so many great memories from the 80's. We were actually an Apple family back then, as my dad had an Apple II in the late 70's, then he got me and my sister an Apple II plus a few years later, and of course he bought a Mac when it was released. Thanks for the walk back in time.
@MrGuyGoneGamer
@MrGuyGoneGamer 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: If you open the first gen Macintoshes, inside the back housing, you can see all the signatures of the OG Macintosh team. Great tribute to them all!
@CommodoreGreg
@CommodoreGreg 6 ай бұрын
The 1985 Amiga brought preemptive multitasking to the masses. Like the GUI, we would be nowhere without it.
@joshuaa.c.newman7430
@joshuaa.c.newman7430 6 ай бұрын
I’d LOVE an episode about Kare and the rest of the team. I haven’t found as much about her as some of the other creators.
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Kare played a major role in the aesthetics of the applications !
@joshuaa.c.newman7430
@joshuaa.c.newman7430 6 ай бұрын
@@MacintoshLibrarian Yeah, I love her work. She just doesn’t get mentioned much in the books I’ve read other than her seminal creative output. I’d love to know more about how she thought out such an iconic design language.
@greatquux
@greatquux 6 ай бұрын
@@joshuaa.c.newman7430it would be good to have more info on that, I did see her original notebooks displayed at MoMA last year in an exhibit (behind glass!) and those showed a good deal of evolution of icon and style design. They’re probably digitized somewhere or they should be!
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 6 ай бұрын
@@joshuaa.c.newman7430 a lot of it she was given free rein, she got told half of them for errors wouldn't be seen so stuff like the dead mac and the bomb icons came out from having fun. Of course being flaky first gen hardware, it wasn't long before everyone saw the icons that "no one would see" lol.
@danburke8576
@danburke8576 6 ай бұрын
Thank You! The 128K Macintosh was my computer growing up. I could use MacPaint, drawing shapes long before I could read and write. I distinctly remember that waffle pattern overwriting another pattern filled object. My father was owed money by a friend and told him he'd take the Macintosh to settle that debt.
@sideburn
@sideburn 6 ай бұрын
They had the guy who made S.A.M (software automatic mouth for Atari and C64) provide the speech synthesis for that demo (eventually became MacinTalk). Jobs was impressed by it when he saw it on an 8bit and called him. There’s an interview by him on KZbin and he talks about his experience with Jobs and the Mac team. First thing jobs said to him was “I’m not giving you a million dollars”. The sale did get him a house though…
@electronics-girl
@electronics-girl 6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that S. A. M. was available for the Apple II, as well.
@JDW-
@JDW- 6 ай бұрын
Very nice video, Miss Fox. My first computer was the 128K in 1984; so like you, it truly does hold a special place in my heart. (So much so that I've never owned a DOS or Windows PC.)
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen 5 ай бұрын
Hey, got to meet you at VCF this last weekend! Like lots of kids during that time, my computer experiences were mostly limited to the Apple IIe systems that our school had in the computer "lab". But, our teacher had an original Mac, and every Friday we got to rotate out who used it (mostly for games, as Fridays were often game day). It's what cemented a lifelong love of computers in general. Great video!
@Valthonis
@Valthonis 5 ай бұрын
Sounds a lot like my childhood school experience. Going to the computer lab and playing mostly Oregon Trail. I do recall a different IIe "game" that I've been unable to find. It was some sort of "build your own car" where you could pick the size, some features, engine, wheels, and then it would do some tests and tell you if it was good or bad. Fairly certain it was very simplistic, but wish I could recall what that was called.
@Valthonis
@Valthonis 5 ай бұрын
well dang, never mind. I was trying too hard. I guess its simply called "Car Builder"
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs 6 ай бұрын
Great Video Kate I had the original 128k Macintosh bought it new back in 1984 with the image writer printer
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow! That is awesome! You were on the cutting edge of tech !
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs 6 ай бұрын
@@MacintoshLibrarian yes I paid around $3600 for the Mac Image writer and some accessories it was my first computer and at that time it was unbelievable what it could do at that time
@mojoblues66
@mojoblues66 5 ай бұрын
@@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs what did you do with it?
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs 5 ай бұрын
@@mojoblues66 When I got my Mac SE30 I gave it to one of X wife cousin
@PE4Doers
@PE4Doers 2 ай бұрын
Ms. Fox, I truly love your videos and watch them whenever I see them posted. It does weigh heavy on my heart however, that we could never be 😍💔
@d.r.martin6301
@d.r.martin6301 6 ай бұрын
I bought one 40 years ago for my writing business. $7000. That's about $20k now. But the thing paid for itself in a few months. Now on my 13th Mac, an M1 Air.
@JohnRineyIII
@JohnRineyIII 6 ай бұрын
I'm lucky enough to have a original Macintosh, manufactured the second week of May in 1984. Found it at Goodwill, and it wasn't too hard to get cleaned up and running.
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow! Glad you were able to rescue it and get it up and running again! These are very important slices of computing history
@JohnRineyIII
@JohnRineyIII 6 ай бұрын
Someone had been in it before and made a bit of a mess trying to fix it. Fortunately they're pretty robust little machines. It even has the original release ROMs, which makes it kind of picky what external drives it works with (the FloppyEMU works great though!)
@Astfgl
@Astfgl Ай бұрын
Last week I discovered your videos and have been binging them since, love your channel! A wonderful blend of geekiness, passion and informativeness. It took me a few moments to recognize the song playing over the end credits but once I got it, I "got it" if you know what I mean. Of course, this same week I visit the shops for some groceries and what do I hear playing over the radio? Why, it's "Return of the Mac"! Coincidence? I think not!
@asystole_
@asystole_ 6 ай бұрын
Great job showing *why* the likes of MacPaint were so groundbreaking at the time. The applications are often overlooked when people talk about 80s computers.
@mattwrlh1905
@mattwrlh1905 5 ай бұрын
I was the proud owner of the original 128k Mac back in 1984 which I was able to upgrade to an AMAZING 512k which let my screen move smoothly when dragging (as opposed to whirring as it redrew). Later upgraded to a used SE30 with an actual hard drive. Still have my original in the closet, can't bear to throw it away.
@john_ace
@john_ace 6 ай бұрын
In my school years, in 1998, one teacher was reminiscing about his time as a freelance programmer. He told us that in 1985 the Macintosh was seen as a portable computer, much like the compaq portable. The whole computer could be taken to the workplace and back home to continue work there. The Mac was perfect to demonstrate the programs to the customer on real hardware. He used an IBM compatible back at home for debugging and cross-compilation over the serial port.
@Vbeletronico
@Vbeletronico 5 ай бұрын
Visiting your channel for the first time - pretty cool history of the MacIntosh. We chatted a bit today at VCFSW about Brazilian clones and other curiosities. Success to your channel!
@gm112
@gm112 6 ай бұрын
I love the Maccy bits so much. I love your content, what a pleasant surprise on a happy caturday
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! Happy saturnday and caturday!
@thomaspripley
@thomaspripley 5 ай бұрын
The 128 was the first Mac I used... I spent entire days at my local library learning it in the computer lab. Fun times for an 11-year old!
@ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias
@ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias 6 ай бұрын
it's impressive how when Apollo 17 was putting the last people on the moon something with a processor far more powerful was around the corner, and then a little over 10 years later the first Macintosh came out
@tomwagner4516
@tomwagner4516 5 ай бұрын
20k subscribers. Wow, you deserve 100 times more. Happy to be with you to 2 million.
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman 6 ай бұрын
Touch interfaces were in use in the late 70's ... 79-82 I was using the Plato system for credit recovery, and the terminals at the data center at Alaska Methodist University had IR grid touch screens. Which Plato used in parallel with keyboard input options. Had your choice which to use, except for login creds.
@WelcomeToMarkintosh
@WelcomeToMarkintosh 6 ай бұрын
Wow-that was a GREAT History of the Mac-thank you!!
@eduardoalvarez4457
@eduardoalvarez4457 6 ай бұрын
As a graphic designer turned developer, I would love an episode about Susan Kare !
@Voultar
@Voultar 6 ай бұрын
You're doing the people's work.
@HopelessAutistic
@HopelessAutistic 5 ай бұрын
She’s just for show t!ts Magee for useless ol tech
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 6 ай бұрын
The Xerox Alto really was a computer from the future, but they never saw its full potential. It was the Macintosh that brought that future to regular people! And honestly, their current crop of computers and macOS still feel like they're from the future to me!
@RyanMercer
@RyanMercer 6 ай бұрын
🤘🤘
@ultraokletsgo
@ultraokletsgo 6 ай бұрын
You've been around for 4 years, but only today has the KZbin Algo suggested your channel to me. It's a good day.
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave 6 ай бұрын
Love this! Not gonna lie though, I spent a bunch of time trying to look up all the books in the background!
@aromaticvoice2452
@aromaticvoice2452 6 ай бұрын
I really like the format of your videos, essentially it's kinda like watching an educational show, in a good sense. Maccy is a fun character too, certainly adds to your videos!
@tylerlloydboone
@tylerlloydboone 6 ай бұрын
Fox and Maccy! Let’s goooo!
@AndrewErwin73
@AndrewErwin73 6 ай бұрын
The SuperB owl... love it.
@billlockhart2272
@billlockhart2272 6 ай бұрын
Nice video going over the birth of the Mac. Brought back a lot of memories. At the time I was one of the ones that could not afford a Mac. So what I did was I bought a Commodore 64.There was a program for it called GEOS. Running GEOS on a C64 gave it a GUI interface. Basically a "poor man's" Macintosh. Finally in 1991 I was able to afford a Mac. I bought a Mac Classic which I still have today. A couple of years ago Steve of Mac84 replaced the capacitors on it and at this time I installed BlueSCSI on it. It is still running today. One thing I like in your video is the mention of Insanely Great. The book by Stephen Levy. I still have my copy and I've read it a few times. You also showed a video clip of Levy. If I'm not mistaken this is from a PBS documentary titled "Hackers". This is a fascinating doc about a gathering of the early pioneers of the computer industry. Woz was there as well as Bill Atkinson and Andy Hertzfeld. I have a video of the doc and have it in digital form. Have you had the chance of seeing this?
@Omri.Collects
@Omri.Collects 6 ай бұрын
superb 🦉 ☺️ yes!!!!
@mattelder1971
@mattelder1971 6 ай бұрын
Multitasking really wasn't a hardware limitation. The Amiga 1000, which came out only a year later, with very similar hardware to the original Macintosh was capable of preemptive multitasking AND a color GUI. Other platforms wouldn't have preemptive multitasking for another decade.
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Good point!
@buhizkewl7105
@buhizkewl7105 6 ай бұрын
This channel is so informadorable!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
I love this word !
@buhizkewl7105
@buhizkewl7105 6 ай бұрын
@@MacintoshLibrarian then it was worth fighting big thumbs and autocorrect to type it! Thanks for all the great videos!
@ACJustinYT
@ACJustinYT 4 ай бұрын
3:35 "(or 120,000 chuck e cheese tokens)" THAT GOT ME 🤣
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics 6 ай бұрын
What you say about the Apple engineers is what I keep saying about SpaceX. While Elongated Muskrat takes the credit and blame, we must remember it's the countless engineers who get things done there. Never realized the Mac Paint was in fact an inspiration for MS Paintbrush (in Win 3.x) and Paint. They certainly do look similar.
@albertrodriguez3429
@albertrodriguez3429 6 ай бұрын
Always gotta watch to the end for that awesome outro!
@jeremiahrex
@jeremiahrex 6 ай бұрын
I always wondered what the heck that scrapbook app was for. By the time I started using Mac's they had enough memory to keep the apps running and copy/paste between them.
@CubeAtlantic
@CubeAtlantic 6 ай бұрын
i kind of think the old & retro Macs were relaxin' & fast :)
@kynyc1
@kynyc1 6 ай бұрын
Smalltalk was the object-oriented language used to code the interface, and the interface was named something else, for instance "the finder" was named neptune.
@desiv1170
@desiv1170 6 ай бұрын
Great vid... I remember the early Macs with their 400k drives and those early systems... LOTS of disk swapping!!! I can still hear that disk eject sound over and over in my sleep. ;-) Those early machines were great proofs of concept. I think it really became useful with the 800k drives and 512k, and ideally an external floppy. My roommates Fat Mac was pretty fun and much less disk swapping than those originals... ;-)
@shawnmoy2843
@shawnmoy2843 6 ай бұрын
amazing video, very informative and great production value. love the PBS vibes, definitely a fan now.
@williampamblanco
@williampamblanco 6 ай бұрын
First time watching the channel, I dig it! Maccy is one cool dude😊
@darkobelisk4076
@darkobelisk4076 6 ай бұрын
I need a Macintosh Plus in my life.
@tomlavelle8340
@tomlavelle8340 6 ай бұрын
I remember using the Mac in college in 1992
@ctrlaltrees
@ctrlaltrees 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic stuff as always!
@tropicalretro
@tropicalretro 6 ай бұрын
I have to confess, my first mac OS was System 6.0.3. I never understood the utility of the Scrapbook. It was very usefyl pre-multitasking indeed!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Yeah! the scrapbook was a useful tool if you used it for school / office work. It was great to have canned email responses or signatures for a letter. But for 8 year old me playing Glypha and Oregon Trail... I didnt use it much either :P
@TaMarAaQ
@TaMarAaQ 5 ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel, amazing content!
@TheBasementChannel
@TheBasementChannel 6 ай бұрын
Great video, I always enjoy how well researched your videos are.
6 ай бұрын
Another comment: I would love a comparison involving the Macintosh and other graphical interfaces from the 1980s. For example, when you talked about Lisa and its high cost, I also thought about how expensive a PC capable of running VisiCorp's Visi On was.
@theangel540
@theangel540 6 ай бұрын
Ohhh! I know this is off topic but you have an SGI Octane! Awesome! If you have it with an MXE pipe and the Tram(s) modules! The "Chim" and colors of the SGIs were appreciated by Steve at the time. Cheers from France 😇.
@lawrencemanning
@lawrencemanning 6 ай бұрын
In terms of books on the history of the 128KB Mac you have to read “Revolution in the Valley”., by none other than Andy Hertzfeld. No reason to go to a second source, though Revolution can only be bought used.
@tomleech9753
@tomleech9753 6 ай бұрын
There's too much cuteness on this channel. Who do I report that to? :)
@elderoy
@elderoy 6 ай бұрын
Great episode !
@electronics-girl
@electronics-girl 6 ай бұрын
I remember seeing a Lisa at a computer store when I was a kid!
@pwissink1
@pwissink1 6 ай бұрын
Nice history of the Mac. In that time I got my first ‘real’ computer, a Commodore 64. Later it was the Amiga (which has a lot in common with the Mac). I totally had no interest in the Macintosh because in my region it was not popular and it was expensive. During the 90’s the pc with windows became my computer to go for. In 2012 all changed with the iPod touch which was a present for my wife. And now I own 5 Apple computers, a lot of iPhones, iPods, iPads. But still I hope one day I can buy a classic Macintosh. Just to see and feel how it all started. Good video 👍💪
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Amigas are awesome machines too!
@terryclair2914
@terryclair2914 6 ай бұрын
Always great videos, thank you!
@migsy1
@migsy1 6 ай бұрын
This is such an interesting and well made video!!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jackilynpyzocha662
@jackilynpyzocha662 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 6 ай бұрын
I so love your content! I had just gotten a IIe the year before so I had to wait a few years to get a Mac but my first was a IIci that lasted me well into the late 90s... and I just noticed that SGI Octane behind you, ROCK!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
the Apple IIC was an amazing, compact machine! I had a lot of fun with the IIe and the IIgs through the 90s and even a little into the 00s :)
@DisketteDreams
@DisketteDreams 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Kate! Looking forward to the video about Susan Kare, she's an icon (pun intended)
@cosmicavatar773
@cosmicavatar773 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Ive always loved your channel, one of the most creative on youtube. Have a blessed day!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words :)
@FreihEitner
@FreihEitner 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you.
@jonescity
@jonescity 6 ай бұрын
I love you you played "Return of the Mac" lol Subscribed!
@Floppa6.9
@Floppa6.9 6 ай бұрын
Hello, idk if you will read this but i really like your channel! I think what you do is cool! i am really into vintage apple tech and i have one macintosh plus, i want to get more like a macintosh preforma and stuff, anyway, Have a good day!
@GarthBeagle
@GarthBeagle 6 ай бұрын
So many monitors and computers smashed in frustration in this episode! 😂 Well done!
@redmartian
@redmartian 6 ай бұрын
14:20 I thought that Word came from Bravo (Charles Simonyi) work that was done at Xerox where WYSIWYG was coined.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 6 ай бұрын
I remember I didn't like not having a command line. And the 128k models too.
@youtube-ventura
@youtube-ventura 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to get to get the Maccy face on my 16bit mac. Is that an old program or did you write that? Either way, super cool.
@Stijn081
@Stijn081 6 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know Mac Paint had so much resemblance to the early Photoshop versions that came way after it.
@PaulNat360
@PaulNat360 Ай бұрын
man, that old mac looks like the item box in the old Sonic games
@mattelder1971
@mattelder1971 6 ай бұрын
Oh yes, the Superb Owl!! I remember that LOL.
@derekchristenson5711
@derekchristenson5711 5 ай бұрын
Maccy moving around between computers, LOL.
@jonnyreverb
@jonnyreverb 6 ай бұрын
Love the wall.
@tfk0527
@tfk0527 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t hear any mention of Apple’s software development company, Claris & 2 of my favorite (if severely out-dated) programs: ClarisCAD (weaknesses: only 2D design & “integer based” calculations, but still the easiest & most intuitive CAD program ever), and the best (even to this day), most intuitive & easiest to use Project planning software, Claris’ MacProject Pro.
@matyasxfulop
@matyasxfulop 5 ай бұрын
LGR finally has come competition.
@DominicGo
@DominicGo 6 ай бұрын
was there any coding programs for the original mac? it would be really cool to write some basic or c on the the original mac
@seanrichard4608
@seanrichard4608 6 ай бұрын
LOL 'I forgot how simple things were back then...'. I feel attacked 😅
@werdna_sir
@werdna_sir 6 ай бұрын
Great thumbnail. Great video.
@GoobNoob
@GoobNoob 6 ай бұрын
I just finished watching the Steve Jobs 2015 movie. So funny to see you upload this at the same time!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
it is serendipitous !
@BGBTech
@BGBTech 6 ай бұрын
I notice that the UI design of that version of MacPaint is *very* similar to the version of Paintbrush on Windows 3.x ... I suspect there may be something going on there... (By the time it became known as Paint, the UI had changed to some extent). But, yeah, nice seeing a new video on here...
@cesarespinozaspain
@cesarespinozaspain 6 ай бұрын
YEA!!!!!!! Luv a good History lesson!
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 6 ай бұрын
I look fwd to a video on those creators of the Mac OS. I'd never even seen OS 1 before.
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe 6 ай бұрын
Lol, I thought Maccy was going to wind up inside the green SE/30 behind you with Flying Toasters.
@Jaxermd
@Jaxermd 6 ай бұрын
Susan Kare episode please!
@Cowclops
@Cowclops 6 ай бұрын
2024 also marks my 40th year
@BGBTech
@BGBTech 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I am in the same camp... Also turned 40 this year, initially felt like I was crossing over into being elderly, but then realized I don't feel that much different than I did at 39, so I am getting over it I guess... Still sometimes wish I could have done more with my life though (but, I guess, I have done some things that "not all that many" people had done before, like designed and implemented my own custom CPU ISA on an FPGA, so I have at least done "something" I guess...). Half tempted to try tinkering around with printable semiconductors, but this would be a bit expensive "just to mess with it"; the required inkjet printer and semi-conductive ink (PEDOT:PSS) being rather expensive... Would likely need to write a bunch of custom tools to do place-and-route from the netlists as well (as it seems some of this space is "paths not well trodden" in the open-source space; but could at least leverage an existing Verilog compiler). Could, in theory, probably fit a microcontroller onto an 8.5x11 inch plastic transparency though (but, achievable transistor density would be limited based on how accurately the sheet could be fed back through the printer; as the process would involve printing the same sheet a large number of times to print the various layers, and then baking it in a modified toaster oven, ...).
@AmigosRetroGaming
@AmigosRetroGaming 6 ай бұрын
Great stuff, Kate! Your videos comprise everything I know about Apple..haha!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! And keep up the amazing work yall do at the amigos HQ!
6 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever noticed that Silicon Graphics workstation right there in the corner. Anyway, thank you for another video!
@julioramos6921
@julioramos6921 6 ай бұрын
I hope you make an Episode based on the Software Magazine called DiskWorld
@DominicGo
@DominicGo 6 ай бұрын
i want one of those so badly, ahhh
@jackilynpyzocha662
@jackilynpyzocha662 2 ай бұрын
I had an SE 30, for $50.00, all cables, the keyboard, mouse and software! A nearby ad.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 6 ай бұрын
The first 2 models were really limited. The Plus was really the first usable Max.
@fractalMD
@fractalMD 6 ай бұрын
Maccy!
@TrevorLangowski
@TrevorLangowski 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@MacintoshLibrarian
@MacintoshLibrarian 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Dtr146
@Dtr146 4 ай бұрын
Superb owl? That was said way too nonchalantly to be a mistake. Where did that come from? I'm genuinely curious.
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