History of WWI Primer 066: Portuguese Vergueiro Documentary

[@ruireisminecraf]

My great-grandfather was an "Capitão" in the Battle of La Lys. In that morning his company (companhia in portuguese) lost about 72 men and he shot down 3 german before having to retreat and taking with him one of the Mauser Vergueiro (thats what we call it in portugal) with the Carlos I monogram inserted in there. That weapon "belonged" to a neighbour of his who was a "1º Sargento", he tried to ofer ti to his wife but she refused and then he brough the Mauser and stored it. Today is in my house, belonging to my father. Thanks for this in depht revision. Orgulho Português! (Portuguese pride in portuguese) Keep it going! Hope for more shows about portuguese rifles!

[@davidemagalhaes1566]

é assim mesmo ,)

[@Sirdickington]

@@davidemagalhaes1566 t

[@LEXxTALIONS7913]

Sem dúvida orgulho português.

[@ramossilva87]

Se puderem conservem-na. Querem destruir todas as armas existentes em PT

[@patriot17764th]

respect!!

[@ZGryphon]

"Another man enters the fray." Admit it, you were all expecting it to be William Crozier, somehow.

[@samuelschiller8510]

Another triumph! Seriously, prior to finding you guys I thought I knew something about Great War Weapons, but now I realize I know squat! I am learning so much from the pair of you and your team. Also, the videos are not just dull information, they are entertaining, full of wit and Mae's wistful little smile following her shooting is the icing on the cake. It makes me smile. Additionally, her point by point critique on the handling of each weapon is a great addition to the overall study of the weapon. Bravo!

[@patriot17764th]

I've learned so much from them, I truly enjoy their show.

[@Ricardojosr]

As for the huge numbers of rifles that are missing... Some of them are yet in service with the military schools, and on storage.

[@jmbrosendo]

I'm stoked to see this video being portuguese and long time viewer. Many thanks.

[@EdSmith7464]

25:06 Little correction here: On October 5, 1910, the last king of Portugal was overthrown along with the monarchy, but João Franco wasn't in government at the time. In fact Franco's dicatorial regime, which lasted only a few months, ended with his resignation on February 1, 1908, after the assassination of the king D. Carlos I and his son, the crown prince D. Luís Filipe. Anyway, this was a very informative video as always. Keep up the good job, guys!

[@kinsmart7294]

Yeah, the curse of the Bragança

[@danieljennerman7549]

Yea!!! I was getting worried. You guys do amazing work. I love the depth of information your videos provide and the humor of your delivery. Keep doing what you do, we are all thankful.

[@scottroberts3158]

This is awesome, I'm so glad I supported you guys on patreon all those months ago!

[@AmazingPillowZ]

How proud i am of seeing portuguese weapons on this channel! I feel all patriotic and shit! Portugal c***lho

[@TheSeanoops]

That’s how I feel being German.

[@Andyplays40k]

Is it possible to get 1886 Kropatschek rifles in Portugal today?

[@AmazingPillowZ]

19th century weapons in Portugal are considered vintage/historical firearms therefore no special permit is required to own one. However finding one Kropatschek or any firearm of this time period in good condition, that isn't completely expensive is another story. Incredibly rare and "unicornical" but doable.

[@Andyplays40k]

In Norway we have the same. Firearms pre 1890 is considered antiques and no permit is required. I have 4 Portuguese Kropatschek rifles and i would like to get more, but they are rarely seen for sale. Is it possible to find online from Portuguese sites?

[@AmazingPillowZ]

Terribly sorry for the late reply! Personally, i've tried looking for ones available for purchase, although all i could find was private auctions, and those went for hefty prices, so i'm guessing we are not that lucky :/

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

Very interesting rifle. I just bought a 1904/39. But man, was it troublesome to get it here...The package with the rifle dissappeared in the shipping process and it took 27 days for the postal service to find the package. It turned out that my name and address had fallen off the package, and it was sent to a place where they keep lost packages...They finally found the rifle by opening the package and comparing it with pictures online of the rifle I bought. When they had confirmed that it was the same rifle, it was finally sent to me. I thought someone had stolen it and started to freak out. But now the rifle is finally here. It's a really interesting and unique design, I am a big fan of both Mauser and Mannlicher. This is like 2 rifles in one. This is what happens if a Mauser and a Mannlicher makes a baby.

[@nicholasmazzarella2720]

Freaking outstanding. I have many many old WW1 and WW2 rifles and this one awesome. As always you guys rock. Keep it up. Thank you for the history

[@LEXxTALIONS7913]

In the army school in Portugal there are some beautiful rifles in use.

[@TopAce1945]

We’re hoping you might do an episode or two on the Swedish mausers. One of the best out there! Love your channel

[@jacksonthompson7099]

They did.

[@gallendugall8913]

The license rights on the patented plastic pokey must be worth billions!

[@rabbit_nz176]

A little late to the party, but just wanted to say what a fantastic video this was. 👍 I've got a Vergueiro 6.5x58 #416 and I'm just in the process of getting some ammo for it. This video really delved into how this rifle was developed and I really appreciate the all research done. Great job!

[@amandahammond2691]

Speaking of Mae's top 10, is there any chance we will get a "Mae's Top Ten XXXX of World War I"? Like, a rifle video and a pistol video?

[@-oiiio-3993]

Mae were declared.

[@TwentythreePER]

The Portuguese knew how to pick rifles. Beautiful rifle there, I tend to find the Mauser/Mannlicher/Schlegelmich looking rifles to be the most beautiful. Except for that Serbian carbine on the wall. I must have one, it's gorgeous.

[@woodsmanforlife1677]

Once again: Outstanding! Thanks for sharing!

[@genericpersonx333]

I think it was Michelle Moyd who observed that German forces in Africa basically rearmed themselves almost entirely with Portuguese weapons by 1917 because their supply of German ammunition was pretty much exhausted. As that was around 15,000 soldiers, I can see many thousands of these rifles being consumed by the Germans before they finally surrendered. That could account for quite a lot of the missing weapons.

[@nightman7263]

Vídeo extraordinário. Cheio de informação, cheio de história, muito bem feito, e muito interessante de ver. Congrats.

[@richarddixon7276]

This Is EDUCATION at it's best! Thanks to All at C&R .

[@tombogan03884]

Great video. Merry Christmas to the whole crew.

[@sharkfinbite]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday C&Rsenal gang and all viewers.

[@Candrsenal]

Happy Chrimmas!

[@GeorgHaeder]

Chrimmas were declared!

[@sharkfinbite]

@Fritz Fritzl Santa hears the declaration and says, "Dear gosh! It has finally happened. The proficiency has come to fruition. War has been officially been declared on Christmas." He leans to an elf to say, "Alert the child soldiers." The elf radios the secret code word message on TV globally. All the child sleeper cells are triggered by the phrase once watching it, and flick to their brain washed K.G.B. style super soldier mode. Before the elf cuts off he says, "Remember your training..." ;) Merry Christmas haha.

[@reedpond6867]

Many, many years ago; when I was 11 to 14 years of age. I had the chance to get to know 5 grandfatherly gentlemen that were, to me, the coolest guys ever. They had the coolest one of a kind weapons, shooting the least available ammunition. Or, using explosives (plastic?) to cut USN, US ARMY, USMC or USAAF initials into armor plate at their testing facility outside my hometown. when "Doc" showed me how I could drop trees w/these "cutting charges" ; the rest of the guys would just tell me that "Doc" was showing off with "his invention". Then they would show me how to make my own jacketed bullets using different dies and different materials. They taught me how to make my own jacket bullets for the 6.5 Portuguese that Dr. Lathrop had given me. Mr. Bushmill had given me the dies and the data to load my own ammo for my 6.5 Portuguese. These gentlemen in a forty month period taught me a lot about military weapons from the 1870's thru to the Korean war periods. They had examples of just about every small arm that had been developed/used by every government from the late 1870's thru the Korean War. I learned about the potato digger, Vickers, Maxim, Lewis, Browning, Madsen, Browning, MG-15's, 34, 42, the French, Italian and the "commie cock sucker stuff" to.

[@stacybrown3714]

Although I have a 1904/39, I think this is a wonderful sorce of information on a resent purchase that I am completely smitten with. I do want a 1904 but I think the hunt will be long and hard. Thanks for the great video.

[@eVVigilance]

Stacy Brown Believe it or not, this one came off of gunbroker a few years back for under $500. They do not turn up often, but are most I have seen were well undervalued for the relative scarcity.

[@stacybrown3714]

GrasCollector I only learned of them in May of this year. I went on GB and bid on the one I have almost immediately. It came with an original sling and is in great shape. Very nice to shoot. I will enjoy the hunt for the 6.5. That is what collecting is all about.

[@AlphariusMemegon]

Oh boy, a new C&Rsenal video!

[@lafeelabriel]

Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Bah Humbug, Murry Yiffmas, and all that guys. Was a real fun episode to watch and I think I can already guess what Mae is going to think of the 8mm Mauser version. With the benefit of hindsight one has to wonder what would have happened if the Portugeze had made that 6,5mm round a spitzer right off the bat though.

[@marcpienaar2937]

I happen to own a UDF marked 1904, its interesting to note that many of the 12 million rounds sent to South Africa for the invasion of German South West Africa in 1914, were defective, brass was split and bullets fell out the cases - not a good thing when in combat. They did see some action with the UDF but ultimately were swapped out for Long Lee's and SMLE rifles as soon as possible.

[@CommunistRaccoonDog]

Merry Christmas to you both.

[@rosicroix777]

It would be nice when you guys have the time, if you both would each let viewers know your respective top 10 WWI rifles & the reasons why. Perhaps when you've completed WWI you could squeeze it in. Great video as allways & looking forward to your next video. Keep up the great work PS Its fascinating how many countries actually had their weapons developed @ the Tula arsenal @ the time rather than domesticley, am suprised how much came out of Tula on top of Mosin Nagant production. Lastly a Very Merry Christmas to you both

[@Khanclansith]

This interrupted my watching ghost stories on KZbin at two something in the morning.

[@anchorbait6662]

These videos are great. I thoroughly appreciate that :D

[@sacriptex5870]

Vergueiro born in Gebelim a little rural village close to bragança...where by the way my Grandfather also born in

[@nicholasford4820]

Awesome! I've been waiting for this one!

[@JonManProductions]

It's 3:30am and I need to sl.... NOPE TIME FOR TALES OF THE GATS WITH O-SAN AND MAE!

[@lino222]

wut the freak are u doinf here?! go play wt ! ^^

[@aries_9130]

Guys, I'm getting tired of saying that this was a fantastic episode. So.. Nah, I'm just kidding. Thank you very much and happy holidays.

[@MrPh30]

Vergueiro were well liked by safaris also, good bullet on very much game up to kudu or Eland .

[@Toolness1]

Kudu doodoo, savor it.

[@jeffyoung2089]

Awesome show!!

[@littlejohnny47]

jeff young I

[@neilmaass5007]

Hi Othais, I inherited one of these, a 1904 model, from my father. A while back I passed it on to my son. We only have 10 cartridges left which my father bought during the sixties for R1.75. It is marked on the box. Here in South Africa we cannot get hold of the cartridges anymore. Here they call it the Portuguese Mauser. It has the Carlos I monogram but not the Union of South Africa stamp. On the left it has the insignia ESPINGARDA PORTUGUEZA 6.5 MOD.1904 and DEUTCHE WAFFEN-UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN BERLIN He was thinking of converting it to the 6.5x55 swedish caliber since the ammo is very available. Should he do that or must he leave it as original. I was always wondering what the C I monogram stood for, now I know. Thanks guys.

[@sionsoschwalts2762]

If you really must the 6.5x55 Swede cartridge can be fired without conversion

[@martyandrews2482]

Fare thee well, Sleep, I hardly knew ye.

[@dt-4535]

Still waiting on some Mausers.

[@abjectpermanence5279]

5:10 Was Vergueiro born 1851, as said, or 1865, as shown on the graphic?

[@LoneWolf051]

I think itd be great if you had the sight picture illustration displayed in each gun episode you review, think you could do that?

[@mercoid]

Kevin Collver ...they do in some, but I wish every episode had it and they’d keep it on screen longer than they normally do.

[@LoneWolf051]

yea itd be great having it on every episode along with the light box

[@mercoid]

Kevin Collver ....yes. For many of us, it’s the closest we’ll ever come to looking down the barrel of these guns. I also feel it could be a very important feature for us, the viewers, to gain more affinity with these wonderful weapons and the men who used them.

[@anchorbait6662]

Agreed!

[@ludditeneaderthal]

lucky 21... im early for once post view edit: as to rarity of un-monkeyed with examples, it actually breaks down pretty easily. we have 100k produced. 20k wander off into "non standard" hands, leaving 80k. 67k+ get converted to short rifle 8mm, leaving 13k, or 1/8 total production. over a span of 30 years, 13k attrition is actually quite admirable. it would have to include stuff like drill rifles, ones bent into pretzels by use as a crowbar, loss to accidental fires, plane crashes, boats sinking, etc. all that beyond combat losses. so the fact that an original markings only example exists at all is actually just this side of miraculous.

[@nightman7263]

It was nice seeing that the girl enjoys Portuguese toys!

[@timm4499]

ever thought about doing some shooting from a lead sled? it would be nice to see a benchmark for the rifles accuracy.

[@bak2back]

Please do not forget to do the Kropatschek rifle when possible.

[@andieslandies]

26:40 "I'm so sorry Portugal but you guys got nailed twice!" ...possibly three times, if you consider the 1885 Guedes. Nothing to do with the Great War but, coincidentally, another Portuguese rifle that was sold to South Africa.

[@grayflaneur4854]

I read that the cutout on the receiver was done during refurbishment process when it was reconfigured for 8 mm Mauser. They claim it was done to allow the cartridge to fit. But, I see that was wrong as that cutout exists on the 1904 version. Interesting how wrong information can be passed along.

[@glennpurcell5206]

I have an origional 1904 ser#73xx with NO prefex letter...as new with ''cut out''.

[@dominiccairo9530]

I have one of the 39 conversion in 8mm, and i can say indeed it is one smooth action. If i did not need the money, I would not be selling it.

[@LadyAnuB]

In the selection battle, the 11B's were giving the finger to the 13B's.

[@elliotfreehart87]

I love this show

[@Candrsenal]

no u

[@GreyBeardUSA]

Excellent episode. Thank you. 1. Is the "Greater than" sign correct, (5 min:38 sec) and specifications were for more than 7.72 lbs? 2. I inherited 6.5 x 58 from family member, while living in South Africa, in 1996. Thank you for providing this history of the rifle. There were many 6.5 x 58 rifles stored in attics because they were not registered after military use, which might explain why they were not converted. 3. At 29:54 minutes in the video: Lorenzo Marques is now named "Maputo", city in Mozambique. It was pronounced La-Ren-Zo Marks.You can google "Maputo" to understand the regional geography and political influences. 4. What book are you referring to, with the author providing your information during the video? 5. Putting the bolt together again is enough to give you grey hairs - I know, I took mine apart, once. Then took a bag of parts to German gunsmith for re-assembly :)

[@granelcardoso1166]

There where 3 types of manliker, the rifle that you shou, the navy carabine and the cavalry carabine (the difference where in the bolt). They still use by the boys and girls of " Colégio Militar"

[@grayflaneur4854]

Wow... I've never been this early before. It's a great rifle in the 8 mm Mauser rework. I am interested to see how the 6.5 mm version is described.

[@123nicefellow123]

Hello Othais and Mae, great episode again! I was really looking forward to this as I own a 904/39 and was really interested in the original form of this rifle and how it compares. The only thing that concerns me a little bit is that the Vergueiro did not make it into the top 10. I just don't get it. As Mae said, it is better than the Mannlichers and the G98. As you mentioned the 1912 (which was used by the Austrians as the 1914 and is thus part of the Great War), I also think it is slightly better than the Vergueiro because of the gas mitigation and the excellent 7mm cartridge (probably the best round of WW1). However, I do not see any way to come up with TEN rifles that trump the Vergueiro! I can only think of the 1912 Mauser, the Lee Enfield maybe, the P14 and US Model of 1917 for sure, the 1903 Springfield and the Swiss K11. The carcano carbines might be nice shooting and handy but their lack of reliability and crudeness blows them out of the top 10 for sure!

[@chrisdooley6468]

Totally agree. It should solidly be in the top ten for all the reasons you stated

[@josebarreto6264]

Vi todo o documentário, contudo a Mauser Vergueiro 6,5 foi reaberta para o calibre 7,9, calibre este que se tornou mais popular nos anos 30/40 ( e participou na guerra do Ultramar 1961/1974), a mesmas carabinas Vergueiro tinham "orelhas", no ponto de mira frontal ( e não despida, como foi exibida) e com a inscrição CARLOS I (o ultimo Rei de portugal) o que indica que estas foram fabricadas pela DW em ano anterior a 1910 (ano de implantação da Republica, 05-10-1910), a demais foram anteriores ou posteriores, o que não tem o mesmo valor. É utilizada actualmente como arma honorifica na Guarda nacional Republicana em Portugal (representações a chefes de estado e funerais)

[@Hopolit1]

Thank you for making this awesome show. Mae, do you ever get tired of shooting these old guns?

from that wicked smile after perforating a target, i would say no.

[@milgeekmedia]

I'll be honest...My brain is starting to melt with all this variation in gun designs during this period! I really did not appreciate the rich diversity. The video series has to be one of the best - and best produced - on KZbin... I can hardly wait for you to apply your style to WW2 weapons. Thank you so much.

[@tessalyyvuo1667]

If everything goes as I dream, I'm going to move to Portugal (to be more specific, Funchal Madeira). So I'm truly fascinated by the information of the military history of my future home land.

[@torbjornlindberg]

what about the guedes rifle? always liked the look of that gun

[@FantadiRienzo]

The portuguese ordered 40.000 of them, thought that they sucked and changed the order after getting ony 8.000 to Kropatscheks. Later Steyr sold 20.000 that they already had produced for Portugal to the Boers. What's so cool about Guedes Rifles? They are just Peabody-Martini's in 8mm.

[@Spartacus-us1eo]

The Portuguese currency at the time of adoption was the Real(1430-1911), after the revolution the currency changed to the Escudo in 1911 until Portugal adopted the Euro as it's currency in 2002.

[@dragonsword7370]

Awesome I'm early on the video drop, your channel is awesome guys!

[@mickeydee3595]

My cousin served in the Portuguese Military back in the 80s as artillery. Def going to tell him nutz to you when I see him next hahaha!

[@billgalactica2982]

Here after the Type 35 video after you mentioned this!

[@lordDenis16]

Wake up early, with the plan in mind of doing work. But not, new episode xD so I must watch it before anything else lol

[@aussievaliant4949]

I have a 1904/39 matching numbers including bayonet in 7.92x57. I'm staggered they're not 'collectable', given their quality and history. Here in Australia, maybe $400-500.

[@h2odragon1]

How much does Mae pay YOU to have all the fun of shooting these Classic Firearms? She has TOO MUCH FUN!

[@schniedelwutzy]

Hi, just bought one. Great Gun. But not easy to disassemle. Do you have an advice how to do so? Best Regards from Europe?

[@Bidimus1]

As is the norm an excellent video. I find it interesting that people tend to compare other rifle cartridges against the 7.92 Mauser , 303 British an American 30 ball m1906 all of which for the most part are realistically the very top end of power that a shoulder arm can use in a bolt action platform. The 6.5 Portuguese generates 2000 foot-pounds of energy 6.5 Creedmoor producers 2300 foot-pounds of energy I don't think there's anyone or at least not many who would think the 6.5 Creedmoor is a under-powered cartridge.

[@randymagnum143]

Compared to a 6.5-300 weatherby it's pretty weak, lol

[@andieslandies]

Thanks for your comment, I too find the effectiveness/hitting-power comparisons interesting. Especially when other well-known names are added to the comparison. Examples worthy of comparison might include: 7.62x39 @ about 1600ft/lbs, 5.56 NATO @ about 1300 ft/lbs, .300 Blackout @ about 1350ft/lbs, 6.5x50 Arisaka @ about 1960 ft/lbs, 6.5x55 @ 2100+ ft/lbs, 6.5x 52 Carcano @ somewhere between 2300 and 2600 ft/lbs, 7.62 NATO @ around 2500 ft/lbs, .303 British @ 2400 ft/lbs... [All figures come from Wikipedia (sorry!), please correct them if you have better references]

[@Firemblemaniac]

At the end you should have brought up the Kar98a instead of the Gew98. Some of the best mauser sights I've ever seen, and much lighter. Although from what I remember, the one you used had a pretty rough bolt and fairly stout recoil, so that really affected her opinion of it.

[@Firemblemaniac]

For some reason I can't edit my comment, so allow me to clarify in that I meant the Kar98az. You probably figured that, however.

[@Durado545x39]

As a South African gunsmith, THANK YOU

[@knightmarex13]

The roller coaster sight is giving me Verdun flashbacks

[@garrettm.6557]

What is Mae's favorite rifle of the First World War? Is there a video that she says this?

[@bishop9757]

comes up from time to time. Think last "top 5" was the end of the SMLE.

[@hugotyson308]

I had a Vergeiro Rifle,wasthe shortend down one.DWM,slicest bolt action Rifle,I have ever had,well after a Mannlicher - Schoenauer.Yes it was in 8mm Mauser,the 1904 / 39 version..

[@austindavid7675]

Hey Othias, I have two questions one when will you do the M1911 and also why don’t you do semi auto rifles like the Rsc 1917 or 18 or the M1907

[@kevinsullivan3448]

The Portuguese preference for long shots is interesting and completely understandable given their views on other forms of armed combat. The Portuguese fencing style is called la verdadera destreza; "the true skill" or "the true art". Its precepts are based on reason, geometry, and tied to an intellectual, philosophical, and moral ideals, incorporating various aspects of a well-rounded Renaissance humanist education, with a special focus on the writings of classical authors such as Aristotle, Euclid, and Plato.

[@elliotfreehart87]

I like gew 98 episode and yes I have one lol. Mine is Turkish contract 1918.

[@Boreas74]

9.30 and it's time for Othias and Mae!

[@Boreas74]

The other 9.30 :) I'm in Malta.

[@andreivaldez6713]

As someone who grew up speaking Spanish that name made me chuckle.

[@Yance_000]

What is the carbine that is hanging in the lowest slot? I know they already did a video on it but I'm blanking

[@Andyplays40k]

What about the 1886 Kropatschek?

[@CommunistRaccoonDog]

Andreas191280 That is my most wanted episode after the Fila Perosa

[@XShifty0311X]

Around the 24:30 mark, it was stated in the video that they would produce the episode after more info on the gun was available.

[@CommunistRaccoonDog]

Gavin Mantyh this

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

Wow that was something that I never knew that I cared in the slides. But like usual great video. And this time I don't use it to go to sleep 🤣 Keep the great work going. And you should do something with "Gun Jesus" again or maybe whit BOTR

[@harvestn9841]

Hey, are you going to be involved in The Great War's WWII project?

[@McNubbys]

2 legit guys don't quit :D

[@rizaradri316]

Recently Indonesian Army recovered a Verguiero rifle from East Nusa Tenggara/East Timor border. Yeah Verguiero rifle have fought for both sides during East Timor unrest. Pro-Integration militias and FRETILIN both utilize Verguiero rifle along with G3.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Aww man, I was expecting a machine gun episode for Christmas.

[@maxheadspace2975]

Othias, you say the Portuguese could not use the 6.5x54 Mannlicher cartridge for some reason. There were 4 other rimless 6.5s either in military or commercial service: 52 Carcano (the first 6.5), 54 Mauser, 57 Mauser and the 55 Swedish. I find it interesting they opted for a totally new proprietary cartridge rather than one of these. In my opinion, the 6.5x58 should not exist at all.

[@genericpersonx333]

With the exception of Finland adopting Russian 7.62mm, 7mm Mauser in Central and South America and 9mm Parabellum, most militaries opted for their own ammunition unique to them before the 1950s. It was done for national pride in many cases. However, it was also useful to have a controlled ammunition to make it hard for people to turn your own guns against you in an uprising. If only the military has the ammunition, then only the military can use the guns. Handy when fighting rebels that they can only get guns and ammo by fighting for it, rather than just buying up stock piles from elsewhere.

[@g.e.fourie5672]

I have a 6.5x58. Great rifle but due to no ammo availability, I don't shoot it. Have had ammo made but can no longer reload them as can't find a reloading die, so don't want to waste the ask I have.

[@admiralpercy]

I just get really depressed every time you flash the war were declared montage.

[@planescaped]

Didn't realize pre WW1 Portuguese military squabbling was akin to a reality tv show...

[@jondoe6663]

at the end, why did you make a distinction between spitzer 8mm and 7.92?

[@chrisbell52310]

Sorry to ask. What was the "A" name rifle you metion at 32.08? Avadé? Amadè?

[@flavio_spqr]

Same doubt!

[@davecarlson1918]

@@flavio_spqr Not a rifle... A service revolver. The Abadie--French designer, Belgian manufacture, Portuguese issue M1886 9mm revolver. Portugal used the Savage "10 shots quick" semi-auto pistol in WWI.

[@flavio_spqr]

@@davecarlson1918 Thanks for the info!

[@davecarlson1918]

@@flavio_spqr Obrigado você! De nada... Some sources claim that after the 1910 overthrow of the monarchy--and assassination of Carlos I with a Winchester self-loading rifle, profiled by Othais and Mae elsewhere for its WWI use--the M1886 revolver fell out of use... The officer's model 1878 may have continued in use, however. Something like 1,000 plus Model 1907 7.65mm/.32 cal. Savage semi-automatic pistols were acquired by Portugal. My sense is that many of these would have been used by the CEP on the Western Front. Othais and Mae did a great episode on that pistol, which may be found in French small arms, since France was far and away the larger user. Até logo/Chau.

[@russelsellick316]

I owned one briefly and it was altered by a gunsmith to 6.5x57 by cutting off a small amount of the chamber and rechambering it to 6.5x57...

[@GamingJava101]

Your dates for the birth of Vergueiro didn't match up

[@toledo152]

45 minute video.....Nice!

[@danisawesome4214]

Why haven’t you guys made a episode on the Mosin-Nagant yet? Considering the fact that you guys are able to get your hands on all kinds of much rarer guns you surely must have access to one.

[@Candrsenal]

Because there has been no comprehensive history written and published until 3 weeks ago. Now we just have 500 pages of Cyrillic to get through.

[@Andvare]

So, next week? ;)

[@royperkins3851]

Dan Is Awesome nobody really likes the mosin nagant it's a turd , Stiff ,rimmed ammo,to damned long, rim lock yada yada yada Russian, Soviet, Chinese eastern European communist etc! Haha ha ha ha ha ha ha bye a mauser!

[@BigVanillaBlast]

Is Mae feeling better?

[@leavemealoneyoutube1707]

So what do we have left? The Mosin-Nagant, the Mauser 1871, Kropatschek, the Mondragon, Vetterli, Turkish Mauser, ect.

[@HarborLockRoad]

Tried a Viguero bolt on a gewehr 88 as the bolts are so hard to find. Too long. Doesent work, though the bolt head fits. Next, im trying a dutch 1895 and some of the others in the gewehr 88 family. Somethings got to work. Yes hanyangs are exactly the same so they work perfectly, but try and find one now.