Tamgas: Tribal Seal of the ancient Turks and Mongols

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Khan's Den

Khan's Den

Күн бұрын

In this episode, we take a closer look at an important part of Turkic culture: Tamgas. A Tamga was a sort of seal used by individuals, families, tribes and even entire states to distinguish themselves from other entities. It could be used for self-identification when conducting trade or diplomacy, too. But which of the important Turkic tribes and states used tamgas? You'll see that Oghuz Turks and the Göktürks prided themselves with Tamgas, but also the non-Turkic Mongolic peoples until the era of Genghis Khan.
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Chapters:
00:00-01:04 Intro
01:05-02:44 What are Tamgas?
02:45-04:06 Kinds of Tamgas
04:07-05:46 Oghuz Turks
05:47-06:48 From Bulgars in Europe to Babur in India
06:49-07:47 The Seljuk Eagle
07:48-10:22 Hunnic and Mongol Tamgas
10:23-11:50 Tamgas in Türkiye
11:51-12:36 Preview and Outro

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@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu Жыл бұрын
It's likely that the Tamga of Attila the Hun was the same as that used by the Dulo Bulgars. Hyun Jin Kim in his book The Huns, Rome and the Birth of Europe (2013). Cambridge University Press. p. 256. also argued that various Oghuric entities like Kutrigurs, Utigurs, Onogurs, & Akatzir were all ruled by branches of the Attilid dynasty
@BayPizzaTR
@BayPizzaTR 10 ай бұрын
btw the first tamga that is shown in the beginning of the video (which is yellow, on a blue surface = blue means sky) is Crimean tamga. It was founded by Giray Khan (founder of Crimea).
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
Making an argument from silence, we may assume that the Khazars were the first permanent tribute-taking polity in the area. Kiev, which two centuries later was to become a key centre of a Rus' state formation, was founded by the Khazars as an outpost. When, in the ninth century, Vikings from the North appeared and formed the first polity centred on this area, it was the Khazars against whom they had to compete. Archaeological findings document a Scan- dinavian presence from the middle of the seventh century. By the beginning of the ninth century, they were residents (Noonan 1986: 339). By 839, we know from the Annals of St. Bertin that they had established a polity known as the Rus' Khaganate. To quote the leading Khazar scholar, Peter Golden, As for the Rus' qaghanate, we know nothing concrete about its origins. Both Pritsak and the writer of these lines concluded that there must have been some marital connection between the Khazar qaghanal line and the Rus rulers. Pritsak suggested that the founder of the line was a Khazar Qaghan who fled the Kabar (Qabar) revolt in the 830's and 'found refuge in the Rus' factory (trading post) dominating the vital Volga-Donets route from the region near Iaroslavl'-Rostov. I also argued for a blood tie because anything less, in steppe Eurasia (the most important audience for such imperial pre- tentions), would have been meaningless. (Golden 2001: 32)
@vindemarque9974
@vindemarque9974 Жыл бұрын
Tamga, resembling a crescent moon with a stick in the middle (or a person raising two hands), was also an early symbol in Sakha right after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Some wanted it to be the republic's emblem, but it was rejected, probably by the state
@Tulga244
@Tulga244 7 ай бұрын
In Mongolian “tamga” or “tamaga (тамага)” means stamp
@paulmears5330
@paulmears5330 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! Thank you for sharing your scholarship 👍🏹
@naturealbums
@naturealbums Жыл бұрын
Always so many new things to learn about my Turkish history we never get to know about in history lessons. Literally even the word tamga I always thought it was damga (in Turkiye) so originally it was tamga.
@raraavis7782
@raraavis7782 Жыл бұрын
It's mind-blowing, to imagine all these generations upon generations of people, empires come and gone...all in a time so very different from our 21th century world. I kinda randomly started to watch the Magnificent Century Hurrem/Kosem series here on KZbin and it got me interested in the history of that part of the world. Looking forward, to checking out more of your videos.
@oguzmen5451
@oguzmen5451 Жыл бұрын
I'm still hung-up over certain Japanaese clan symbols - the name Ashina, and how it reached the island.
@phornthip1991
@phornthip1991 9 ай бұрын
@Oguzmen5451 About Japan you have to Study the History of the Ainu Tribe, you can find them from the Northern Japanese mainland until Kamjatka. Their Ancestors was pure Europide. What we mostly know a Japanese, their Ancestors are chinese, who arrived in Japanese several thousend years after the Ainu there.
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
My favorite Tamgas are Hephthalite ones 🌝
@south_cruiser
@south_cruiser Жыл бұрын
有点意思,tamga、tugra、还有中文中的“”图章“”,发音如此类似。中国或在商周时期开始使用图章来确认文件的真伪。如果突厥语系也有这个词,说不定还确实与匈奴、中原有某些联系。
@user-zc5jz6bh2r
@user-zc5jz6bh2r 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@icfsz6727
@icfsz6727 27 күн бұрын
汉语和突厥/匈奴/蒙古的联系被严重低估/漠视了
@user-gn1tt9sj3l
@user-gn1tt9sj3l Жыл бұрын
Nice video :) We, in Kasachstan have tamgas for each tribe. For example I’m from Argyn tribe and our tamga is an infinity symbol.
@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie
@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the hard work and education of the "lost" past 👍🌘🌟
@denizucar3947
@denizucar3947 Жыл бұрын
Hat off !
@polyglotmarvel
@polyglotmarvel Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video - we love how high quality they are and how detail-oriented as well as reliable your research is! 👌🏻🎬👧🏻🍿🥰
@ahmetkol8080
@ahmetkol8080 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video Emre
@oguztribesmen294
@oguztribesmen294 Жыл бұрын
My favourite Tamga > the old Dodurga one
@tengiz
@tengiz Жыл бұрын
awesome video
@ulgenkoc2893
@ulgenkoc2893 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video, great job.Thank you ,I hope you'll have millions followers.
@royjames1856
@royjames1856 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive
@dbuyandelger
@dbuyandelger 5 ай бұрын
This video focuses almost entirely on turkic, West Asian and East European tamga. Perhaps there is a language barrier, as most Mongolian research is not available in English. When it comes to the study of Mongolian Tamga, the Member of Mongolian Academy of Sciences, historian Perlee has done foundational work on the tamga carvings of Rashaan rock, Khentii province, Mongolia. The tamga he found there represent the tamga of Mongol tribes pre and during Chinggis Khaan. When compared to the tamga that Mongolians use at the time of the research (1980s) all tamga found on Rashaan rock were present and used in modern times.
@KhansDen
@KhansDen 5 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to learn more about Mongol Tamgas. But you are correct. I find it difficult to navigate through as most of the good research seems to be in Mongolian and I don’t speak that language unfortunately. Appreciate any tips.
@dbuyandelger
@dbuyandelger 5 ай бұрын
@@KhansDen Perlee was a Soviet educated scholar and has done much of the scholarship in the 20th century. It would be helpful to find his work in English. But most Mongolian studies researchers generally read Mongolian, there is no apparent demand for major works of Mongolian scholars of 20th century to be translated. Perhaps this is a mistaken point of view and these works should be translated. I have his book on Mongol tamga, particularly his research on the Rashaan rock. The book was transcribed into Mongolian script by Southern Mongolian scholar Gerelt Honichuud. I can send photos if you are interested. One observation I made is that the contemporary tamgas have Buddhist and East Asian influences. For example there are many tamga that carry the yin & yang symbol. My clan (Qatagin, aka Katagan) tamga is basically the tamga of Tamerlane (clan Barlas I believe) - you can also search images of the Banner of Peace. The tamga consist of 3 dots or circles arranged as if a triangle.
@siyacer
@siyacer Жыл бұрын
the seal of the turks
@UmitArmagan
@UmitArmagan 2 ай бұрын
Which is your favorite tamga? Mine is Yazır because it resembles an air defense system, it is very protective. 😆
@south_cruiser
@south_cruiser Жыл бұрын
很全面的讲解
@user-cv5xl8tk8h
@user-cv5xl8tk8h 9 ай бұрын
And Khazars Emparie
@nicholasphilip7733
@nicholasphilip7733 22 күн бұрын
Whats the soundtrack at 4:10 mins in ?
@Metallady1972
@Metallady1972 Жыл бұрын
I am an Afsar Woman 😀
@DFuryArt
@DFuryArt 9 ай бұрын
Taraq tamga
@Khagun.
@Khagun. Жыл бұрын
All under heaven, oh Great Tengri, the sun moon and the trident/ (diving falcon ),flies in all flags of all nations, we have done as u have commanded, we have spread our bloodlines far, now more then half the world bears your mark of blessing, all their kings and holy men carry our bloodlines, we have torn down towers of those who say only us, we have infused the blood lines of the meek and they have truely inherited the earth, oh holy one, the blue bloods marked by your hand as we are born, the world will once more find peace in these turbulent times in the hands of the children of Mongol mark. * the seers and medicine man rejoice in all the glory. In silence the monpas have made the world ready to be as one under one divine mark. ® all under heaven all equal the holy trinity of man women and child under you and that all understanding and human achievement comes only from the holy trinity of knowledge, will and action.
@phornthip1991
@phornthip1991 9 ай бұрын
@Khagun Please tell me, who was the ancestors of the Turkic tribes?
@SamboBeast
@SamboBeast 9 ай бұрын
Ukraine using this symbol 😂
@user-it1qq3iq3j
@user-it1qq3iq3j Жыл бұрын
Это не ислам это вера Тенгри, мы Казахи не мусульмани а Тенгрианцы, и у нас у всех родов тамга и все мы Казахи знаем свое 7 колен и тамгу.
@shashajoe10
@shashajoe10 8 ай бұрын
Turk isnot the same with turkeye. Turk are east asian physically. But turkeye are middleeast physically
@KhansDen
@KhansDen 8 ай бұрын
Why do you care so much?
@shashajoe10
@shashajoe10 8 ай бұрын
@@KhansDen Turk ,uyghur, gokturk ,tajik ,kirgys blablablaa they are all origin mongol sub-ethnic and east physically embrace buddhism . Unlike turkeye /turkis khaliphet are middleeast physically and islam
@lalamla1879
@lalamla1879 5 ай бұрын
hahahahah stupid man, do the Turks living in Turkestan and the Turks living in Moldova look alike? One of them looks like a Mongolian, the other one looks like a Slavic one, but they are Turks. We Turks change shape according to the regions we live in, we assimilate, but we all come from Central Asia.
@UlanB
@UlanB 9 ай бұрын
Tamga is official flag of nomadic tribes! First Tamga belongs to Kyrgyz people Turks is just another polytonym like Huns or Mongols ruled by dynasties! Only Kyrgyz people did not bow their heads before the dynasties and fought for independence
@khalidumar9752
@khalidumar9752 Жыл бұрын
Tamgha not Tamga!
@KhansDen
@KhansDen Жыл бұрын
Both versions lead to the same pronunciations. In modern Turkish, there is no use for the „h“ latter anymore.
@SerkanKabak25
@SerkanKabak25 Ай бұрын
H after the G as in GH usually denotes the soft G in Turkish. So ‘Tamga’ is a more accurate spelling for the word.
@x.kasiouris5503
@x.kasiouris5503 9 ай бұрын
I kept reading it as Tagma instead of Tamga and i was like this is Greek shit bro
@ebbac
@ebbac 8 ай бұрын
everything Greek shit bro. Everything created by Greeks. Fire, wheel, writing, speaking, even Greek was the first monkey who decided to walk.
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