I've definitely gotten way into Bethel in the past as an agnostic theist. I think it satisfies the flesh to hear feel good messages but no True Gospel. it hurts our flesh to hear the gospel but it saves us!
@TheCringingCurmudgeon2 жыл бұрын
Preach! 🙏
@eladiocofresi52023 жыл бұрын
“The first rule of the NAR is you don’t talk about the NAR.”
@snowyowl59713 жыл бұрын
😂
@scmcarp3 жыл бұрын
Fight club 😝😜
@oscarcat12312 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha!!
@mark-dv9gb9 ай бұрын
LMAO !!!!!
@buckiemohawk36438 ай бұрын
when people see all the insanity and they have questions OH we're not part of that BS. Bill is there at all the events and doesnt care. He chased out all the members who would have held them accountable. And now they can do whatever they say....
@jenellel20193 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the hard work you and Paulette do on exposing false teachers. These teachers were part of my childhood and I’m still healing from the deception and abuse.
@christinaadams41873 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bethel was such a big influence on our former "Church" people are refusing to listen, but rather tell us we're being hateful and are at risk of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and it breaks my heart! I know all too well that these videos Bethel's putting out will be enough to put any of their questions to rest, and appreciate you guys and others pointing out that they're not actually addressing the key issues! In surprised no one has sent me one of these clips yet to try and justify their Bethel worship! God bless!
@christinaadams41873 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 you need to dig into the roots of these things, this isn't Christianity, this is new age.
@jeaniepeterson12823 жыл бұрын
We also had to leave our much beloved church after 33 years in part due their increasing embracing of Bethel teachings and culture.
@merrittascott33233 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 Hi, that is not what is being discussed. It's the false teachings from the pulpits and even the false teachings in the worship songs. The Kosars came out of the very teachings they found did not agree with scripture. I was in the signs and wonders ministry also. Knowing now it was deception and doctrines of demons. Not opinions of my own changed, but when I really tested what was being taught with what God teaches. They are not at all the same. I do believe in speaking in tongues, healings and miracles. What is not the Holy Spirit is the hyper biblical false teachings. Google Kundalini spirit and see how pagan religions are manifesting the same as many ministries. I had to drop what I thought was right when I researched by testing with scripture. I wasn't reading scripture in context either which allowed me to trust a scripture verse taken out of context.
@coryalbright97983 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 tongues are an actual language.
@coryalbright97983 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 are you a prophet?
@Lalzovi3 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed that your critiques are getting more views than the original Bethel series?? Amazing!
@debbielong18823 жыл бұрын
I've just finished reading the book of Acts again. Somehow I can't imagine Chris Valaton or any of the other NAR "Apostles" being prepared to go through what Paul did to stand up for the truth, defend the faith and build the Church!
@DebbieMason3 жыл бұрын
Right?! Paul and the REAL Apostles could SO articulate (ugh, not to use a jargon term) the truth of the Gospel... These people can't spell it out to save their lives. The biblical apostles promoted the Gospel, and because they spoke the truth of God's redemption plan made complete in Christ -- their words had power and people either accepted it and were born again, or rejected it...and tried to kill them.
@debbielong18823 жыл бұрын
@@DebbieMason EXACTLY! These people are seriously deluded!
@debbielong18823 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 Maybe so but they stood up for what they believed in and established an eternal faith! If Valaton can't even bring himself to call the Pope of all people a heretic, they're no way he'd have survived the kind of persecution Paul did.
@EAB-bz6yi3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Paul driving an Ashton Martin sports car...$200,000 Paul as Saul was probably very well off as a pharisee, hunting down Christians and persecuting them.
@wolves2012 жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine many other Christians wanting to do the same either. Sheesh…what a judgementalist crowd these folks attract.
@alstroemeria227again43 жыл бұрын
That "it's liftink" at the end of the video gets me every time! LOL! I just want to report that your Queens, NY campus has grown. We are now at 2 members! Hallelujah!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah 🙌🏻🤗🙏🏻
@KristiLEvans13 жыл бұрын
QUEENS! We moved from the South Bronx three years ago! Man, we miss NYC
@jackiwheeler69634 ай бұрын
I'm from the west coast. All one of us!!!!
@loveycat54743 жыл бұрын
They are changing Christianity when Christianity should be changing them.
@DebbieMason3 жыл бұрын
🔥
@scottienichols93323 жыл бұрын
So true , might be because they care for self so much more that they need to twist everything to center them .
@lellyt23723 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully put 👏🙏
@two-moonz29533 жыл бұрын
That is deep
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh6 ай бұрын
Amen!
@WilliamtheWorst3 жыл бұрын
Bethel: "Nahh, we're not that extreme. We don't even know much about the apostolic ministry." Also Bethel: "Remember when we attempted to raise that precious two year old child from the dead? Good times."
@Marlaina3 жыл бұрын
😢
@blessed35843 жыл бұрын
William the Worst- you always have great comments.😂
@WilliamtheWorst3 жыл бұрын
@@blessed3584 thanks! Easy pickings with Bethel 😃
@teedoubleu96023 жыл бұрын
William the Worst- I always look for your comments bro 😂
@WilliamtheWorst3 жыл бұрын
@@teedoubleu9602 appreciate it, Tracy!
@dorothyhinz35433 жыл бұрын
Do not apologize for your longer videos. The longer the better!!!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dorothy!!! 🥰🙏🏻
@scottyfleming22033 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I can’t believe I’m alive during this time…it’s so completely insane to me. This stuff is down right nuts…what an amazing and complicated life
@caroleimani97542 жыл бұрын
Scotty Fleming: I hope you are okay... Thoreau said we should "simplify" our lives, so they wouldn't be so complicated. He went off to Walden Pond to write "smart things." I used to read a lot of his stuff in High School, but I'm a Christian now. I sort of graduated from Walden Pond to the Bible. I hope you know Jesus. (I'm not assuming you aren't a Christian, but I was just wondering). Well, hang in there, and I will be praying for you.......
@raymatthews43193 жыл бұрын
There are some on social media who defend wof and NAR who claim that the term NAR doesn't exist. I am glad you proved that the name was given to them by one of their members.
@ethankaryadi373 жыл бұрын
Hey Ray. Nice seeing you here. I did think that C. Peter Wagner was with Bill Johnson when the NAR was first instituted. Blessings.
@raymatthews43193 жыл бұрын
@@ethankaryadi37 Hey, bro. I am thankful that Bro Steven proved it to be true. There is one who has attacked him along with Chris Roseborough, Spencer Smith and Justin Peters for being opposed to the word of faith and NAR heresies. I will not mention names so as not to give them any free advertising.
@thecontender44873 жыл бұрын
From your Ada, OK campus: You are making a difference!! Bethel is in 'CYA' mode, Todd is constantly squirming..... Keep the heat on 'em!
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
I will do just that!
@chrisburton80793 жыл бұрын
When the new apostolic so-called Reformation ordained and commissioned Todd Bentley that was the biggest red flag to all of us enough said !
@lrmiller44083 жыл бұрын
The Tucson Arizona campus checking in here! Thank you for “articulating” about the NAR. Sadly I have family members that are deep into this mess
@brandiannek3 жыл бұрын
I found your website a couple of months ago, as I was researching the theology of Bethel. I didn’t know you had a channel until this video popped up as a recommendation today! Thank you for this content. It’s very helpful. I just exited a church under the Bethel banner, and I even went through their satellite version of the School of Supernatural Ministry. I was all in & had no clue about the errors being propagated, as I began listening to Bethel’s teachings as a teenager. I am so grateful for ministries like yours that are dividing truth from error! Thank you :)
@brandiannek3 жыл бұрын
@@loveisneverasin9092 I have no issue with believing that God can answer prayer for any need. I have seen Him do that plenty of times, and I think of the command “honor thy mother & thy father that it might go well with you and you may live long on the earth”.
@brandiannek3 жыл бұрын
Inspired my life? Nah. Helpful discernment ministry? Yes. Sounds like you’re a connoisseur of the channel. I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
@jpacrylicstudio1453 жыл бұрын
Jacksonville Florida Campus checking in! Thank you for your dedication to assisting Christians in discerning the truth for our safety and edification!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and checking in 🙌🏻🙏🏻❤️
@captaindan50063 жыл бұрын
Steve, your painting skills are so amazing! Love these educational and entertaining videos. they are so needed
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jackiwheeler69633 ай бұрын
I totally agree about the paintings. I wish I could buy one....or two....or three ❤❤
@cherrelledawes10623 жыл бұрын
Read your Bible! Go to church! Be at peace! Thank you Kozars for all you do!
@JesusIsComing11113 жыл бұрын
And I’d add worship God in Spirit and in TRUTH! God bless 🙏♥️🕊
@jackiwheeler69634 ай бұрын
And I'd also add don't forget to pray!!
@dexxadax2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Kozar.
@shell913 жыл бұрын
I'm praying for those I know who are caught up in this garbage, and anyone else as well. Hurts my heart that some will still refuse to see the truth. Also love Lucy's expression when she pops up in the intro.
@theargonauts84903 жыл бұрын
I hope they turn Galatians Girl into a special segment!
@MargaretNahmias3 жыл бұрын
if you mean Paulette she could probably do it on her channel
@jaquirox65793 жыл бұрын
Hahahaa that would be so great!! But only if they keep the 79’s music and slow mo shots. 😂
@margretsimmons82483 жыл бұрын
She should have here own show! I appreciative how calm, considerate, straight forward she is and the approach by asking for scripture to back things without mocking or being condescending is so encouraging to me. We are ALL God’s creation even if some of us have drifted down the wrong path. My husband past earlier this year from COVID and we as most of our family were part of one the organizations that is often covered here. Since his passing I have trying to look for another church, but it has been difficult to break free due to family pressure. Paulette thanks for being yourself and keeping it on point on this program! It has helped me regain my strength knowing I have to break free and it is right to move forward towards proper teachings.
@jaquirox65793 жыл бұрын
@@margretsimmons8248 that’s wonderful to hear! And you can do it!! Check out Grace To You Church’s church finder website, to search your area. It helped us a lot! :)
@margretsimmons82483 жыл бұрын
@@jaquirox6579 Thanks Jaqui! I took a look at the website and unfortunately there is no TMS churches within 500 miles of my location; I am in Ashland, WI. Thanks for the encouragement, I will keep looking. God Bless!
@jillgonzalez54763 жыл бұрын
North Carolina Here!!!!! Changing the speed to speaking a bit slower is just normal speech for folks from my part of the country. Lol. Enjoy you and you bring so much to the table in studying the Bible.
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jill! God bless you 🙏🏻🤗
@jackiwheeler69633 ай бұрын
I was stationed in NC when I was in the air force. Along the coast!!
@Genexus83 жыл бұрын
If they Love God then they will love his truth and hold to sound doctrine, far from what we see going on in the NAR. Further more if we Love God we will receive all correction with open arms embracing the truth, and not make excuses to justify our sin. I hope those who hold fast to the NAR will have their eyes opened and learn to really Love God and his Testimony. May God Bless you all and the works he's doing through your family.
@rachoooO3 жыл бұрын
Watching from a new campus in SC. Been bingeing your videos lately. Y’all are too cute! Happy anniversary!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Welcome Rachel!! Thank you for watching and commenting 🤗❤️ God bless you 🙏🏻
@janetsmith85663 жыл бұрын
The “talking out of both sides of their mouth“ statement is interesting because that was what I concluded before I left my charismatic church. I was just hearing double messages all the time. It’s obviously a common characteristic amongst these groups.
@janetsmith85663 жыл бұрын
Good job guys. This is so necessary. Can you talk every other good pastor into doing something similar so that more people Will actually begin to start getting it??
@vickileigh673 жыл бұрын
Hi from the Alabama campus! Shout out to all the campuses world wide 🌍
@ptl3163 жыл бұрын
Hello Alabama campus, heard u loud n clear from across thé Atlantic 👍
@lellyt23723 жыл бұрын
Right back at ya from the Ireland campus 🇮🇪 God bless
@Reader234 Жыл бұрын
Alabama campus #2! Hope you’re staying away from highlands down here like we are! We don’t have one in cullman thankfully!
@jackiwheeler69633 ай бұрын
Hello from Washington state!!
@DWCPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Koz, I find it very encouraging that you take the time to go back over your videos and add comments like at 48:24 where you correct what you said about speaking in tongues. The Atlanta campus has always liked that about your edits.
@simon-d-m3 жыл бұрын
Here I am watching this over toast and coffee at 5AM (UK time). Boy do I know how to have fun! Seriously, guys, THANK YOU for doing this - this stuff is so pervasive and so destructive, its falsehoods need to be clearly laid out before the church. After all, false prophets are not successful unless their deceits and misdirections work! I pray this will be greatly used, that you guys will be held tightly safe in God's hand (so to speak), and that there will be a great awakening--not in the FFTF prophesy bingo sense!--but the church will realise how it is being deceived and cheated of its inheritance: of assurance of complete salvation in our Lord, and in the inerrancy and sufficiency of scripture. Enough! I need more coffee, and to watch the rest of this before today's tasks... Thank you again, both! Er, and Lucy, too... :-)
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your encouraging words and prayers 🙏🏻❤️ it is needed and deeply appreciated ❤️🙏🏻
@JesusIsComing11113 жыл бұрын
Praying same 🙏
@nickcook39483 жыл бұрын
26:00 - Did he articulate "Tenants"??? Truly, these are powerful intellects we're contending with.
@scmcarp3 жыл бұрын
Thank you about for bringing that video to our attention on the NAR I will increase the viewer from 11000 views to 11001 😀 God bless you brother for all your hard work.
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@KD_94943 жыл бұрын
I watched all the Bethel videos and trolled them. It is so strange how vague they can be yet people comment to thank them for explaining things. It feels like the Twlight Zone 💫
@timmain81773 жыл бұрын
I'm partial to a bit of bethel baiting myself. Give them a bible verse, in context, to think about
@geraldineregina70693 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 you're so funny!! The pure will be the Word undiluted, and Bethel avoids that with everything they can!
@KD_94943 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 scripture doesn’t need to be talked around…I’m not interested in mystical faux intellectual jargon…I am interested in how to rightly divide the Word of Truth
@caroleimani97542 жыл бұрын
Bethel IS the Twilight Zone. I went to their School of Supernatural Ministry online. I feel like I went through the Twilight Zone every time I studied their stuff. I didn't know any better at that time.......
@jackiwheeler69633 ай бұрын
You are about to enter another dimension....whether you want to or not 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Northstarministry2 жыл бұрын
As much as this brings me JOY to listen to your guys videos, hearing Paulette's laugh brings me more joy and makes me laugh too just hearing it 😂
@jackiwheeler69633 ай бұрын
Me too!!!!!
@algermom13 жыл бұрын
The so-called "damage control " sounds like "chronic mendacious spiritual obfuscation syndrome"...wait, I see a cookie crumb trail over there...
@valeriemckenna13 жыл бұрын
As always great to see another segment of Hit The Bar. So excited to see this. Hope you have a blessed day.
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you sister!!
@craighill58273 жыл бұрын
Great content guys. Much appreciated. Blessings from Scotland 🙏🏻✝️❤️
@sermonscraps3 жыл бұрын
We put the cult in culture.
@JerseyGurl4Life3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! You finally answered my question about the campus comments. Because at first I wasn’t sure if you guys were joking or you really had campuses. I figured you were probably just joking and poking fun. But I just wanted to make sure.
@joycelint66523 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your research for these videos and your blog.
@joegatt27513 жыл бұрын
I Just Love Hit The Bar ~ best show in you tube
@JerseyJeff843 жыл бұрын
Kozar's, your video was missed last week! Hopefully, you enjoyed your time away/vacation. So glad to watch a new episode!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeff!!
@MsBeloved893 жыл бұрын
Also want to point out. That American Gospel movie is getting popular and bringing a lot of people out of deception. I can see why they're doing this damage control now lol.
@markmoore83993 жыл бұрын
My sister ended up watching it, and I did not even direct her to it or send her a link.
@DebbieMason3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Bless God. He truly is using that documentary in a mighty way (and part 2, though IMO part 1 is "enough" to tip the scale for people's eyes to be opened).
@mariacastillo-olivares48513 жыл бұрын
The AG series has a second movie in the AG series & a third installemnt is coming out by the end of this year!
@Superheroes_United3 жыл бұрын
We need more Christians out of deception . There is too much apostasy in churches nowadays , way too many deceived Christians
@thecontender44873 жыл бұрын
Nonono! You're wrong! You DO have a campus, right here in Ada, OK. In my house. Membership: 1. Keep up the good work!!
@deniseadkins29013 жыл бұрын
And in Frankfort KY. Membership 1 as well.
@KennethSee3 жыл бұрын
Taipei, Taiwan (Taipower Building Station Campus). Membership 1.
@Iwoasasaned3 жыл бұрын
Even campuses in overseas, they are all over the world! Munich, Germany here. Another 1 member campus 😅
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Yay!! May God continue to bless you all 🤗🙏🏻 You all are very encouraging and we appreciate it and thank God for all of you ❤️🙏🏻
@IBLV2DOU3 жыл бұрын
Hi from Michigan campus! Always great to see you all. Thank you for referencing using books and scriptures. God Bless!!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and commenting 🤗❤️🙌🏻
@-BekahJoy-3 жыл бұрын
What you were saying at the end was very encouraging because sometimes it’s really hard for my to distinguish things, I’ve also realized I hear and interrupt through my own understanding of the Bible so sometimes I’ll think something is good because of what I interpreted it to say even though the speaker never said the thing my brain thought it heard
@Habackuk243 жыл бұрын
How ironic that the "New Apostolic 'Reformation'" would reintroduce a version of a Roman Catholic idea.
@annasanders353 жыл бұрын
Oh!! Looking forward to seeing this 😊 Will watch tomorrow after work because I am from across the pond 😂 Greetings from the Guildford UK campus!!
@hartleyhare2513 жыл бұрын
You're not on your own.... watching from Nottinghamshire. So much is happening to the Church isn't it... yes, it may be a more 'British' way of change, but beliefs are changing aren't they? All the best - Andrew.
@laura-janeluff89903 жыл бұрын
Hello from Lincolnshire. I too have friends very influenced by Bethel and the NAR. You are right, beliefs are changing. Tolerance and compromise for things of the world are creeping into the church 😪
@hartleyhare2513 жыл бұрын
@@laura-janeluff8990 and it is very hard to be heard, and when gently challenging, it's as though one has a completely different gospel.
@laura-janeluff89903 жыл бұрын
@@hartleyhare251 you are right. I've gently brought up concerns with a couple of friends re Bethel and the Word of Faith movement. I even shared a few videos with one of them that show testimonies of folk who have been brought out of these movements but I've had very little or no positive response.. yet. It's been 2 months. I've been praying about it though. I was caught up in it for a little while but thankful I didn't get in too deep.
@chonkiusmaximus3 жыл бұрын
Staffordshire here - our own church is a mix of bethelites and normal people who can see what's going on. There's definitely an underestimation of just how much places like bethel influence UK churches...does my head in.
@Kerosenetrewthe3 жыл бұрын
If the NAR will lie about what the scriptures teach, then it's no mystery they'll lie about just about anything. If they don't hold God's word as having much worth, then how much do they really care about the people they "minister" to? Their church is all about serving the self. And it attracts those likeminded because of our fallen human nature. Read the bible. Keep searching the scriptures. Pray for true wisdom and knowledge of Christ. God be praised for the Truth! Thanks for the video, you two!
@lillyanna84323 жыл бұрын
brilliant end of video bit with basta & liftink, i always wait for it at the end, now we ve got the added bonus of articulated :)) love you both, great video as always x
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Lilly!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and sharing 🙏🏻❤️🤗
@brenmanock3 жыл бұрын
If it grows too fast beware. The gate is wide that leads to destruction.
@adaynasmile3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Oahu! Thank you for your work and for the truth that you put out. I am grateful for your ministry.
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Hello Dana!! Thank you for watching and sharing! 🙌🏻 God bless you 🙏🏻❤️
@neldar73 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I stumbled on yall
@darylrahfeldt21623 жыл бұрын
A line from Shakespeare applies to these men: "Me thinks thou dost protest too much."
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jackiwheeler69633 ай бұрын
To be or not to be.....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@benjaminhoward46303 жыл бұрын
Happy anniversary you two from your Spokane, WA campus!
@lcollins43133 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the definition of Antifa is using. Loose grassroots movement , loose definition of “leaders”. Todd Bentley was a perfect choice as Apostolic leader as he defines them well. Liars, fake miracles, coverup of their morally offensive behavior. No accountability. Let’s not forget their self facing humbleness of their positions. Believe me, people have known about these frauds since the manifest sons of God roots and being called out. How does anyone take lying leadership seriously in teaching the Word of God? God cannot lie. It’d been honest to admit we are a new religion outside of the Word of God. These NAR leadership is like nailing jello to the wall ! !
@Mse9873 жыл бұрын
Really well articulated video! Thanks! 👍😊
@Savedbygrace223 жыл бұрын
Howdy from your Southern Utah campus! Thanks for your hard work. I want to tell you I love all your edits, they bring humor to an otherwise sober topic. I sometimes see in the comments someone may not like them but that’s the beauty of what you do. For being a part time discernment ministry you rank up there for professionalism. God bless you both and praying for your success in spreading God’s truth and exposing his enemies.🙏 p.s. I’m trying to make some room in my house to hopefully get one of your gorgeous paintings. You are gifted by the Lord Steven, I’m amazed at the realism. Peace
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Mary!!
@lindseyh57353 жыл бұрын
Sunday morning I clicked the live service video on Bethel's channel. I guess I was curious to test whether I could parse the truth from the lies for myself. I didn't intend to watch it all, but I was painting and trying to put something on in the background. The first thing I saw was all of the staff on stage praying over Bill, who was apparently standing in for his wife, Beni... because the cancer has returned. I'm still stunned. Could we please get a group praying for her? Pray for her repentance before she loses her life in this horrible way. Even if she's a false teacher married to a false teacher, we don't know if she's saved or not, and I think it's heartbreaking imagining the wrath she faces if indeed she is not.
@Maranatha75573 жыл бұрын
I love your heart. I will definitely pray for them all.
@EAB-bz6yi3 жыл бұрын
I think we all would rather they repent, but sadly they are more than likely rebrobated. Many apologetic ministries have been exposing their false movement for years and they don't take it seriously. They don't have enough humility to even ask God if they are in error, if they would Christ is faithful to bring them out....He did me! When a ministry, teaches that Jesus was not God, at any point in His earthly ministry.....that is blasphemy. That's usurping God and the ploy of Satan, Isa. 14 I believe that Benni's illness was a wake up call and a judgement from God.......do you think she or Bill will publicly repent since they have publicly taught false doctrine? And start teaching correct doctrine. They have told believers for years if they are sick they don't have enough faith or they don't give enough! They tell believers not to pray for God's will and trust Him with the outcome. So, when many many supporters die anyway.....it leaves them with a broken heart. Then with their faith crushed and thinking God doesn't love them; the deceived ask themselves, what have I "NOT" done to earn God's favor. I believe God's judgement here is Him exposing them, in order for their followers to wake up and repent! I don't think Beni will be healed....I think she will die within the next few months. I also believe the cancer has been back for sometime now and they have hid it....so she might not be around for long. This should sober us all up! God will not be mocked! Whatever a man sows, that he shall reap.
@krakoosh13 жыл бұрын
I like to ask God not to take anyone who isn’t saved
@EAB-bz6yi3 жыл бұрын
@@krakoosh1 Opps! It isn't up to you These charismatics have the word written as a witness, therefore they are without an excuse. God decides the fate of these people who have led millions astray...only God can open or close their hearts to repent or not. If they dont repent, then they will spend eternity in hell. They preach another gospel; even Apostle Paul cursed them for that....this is very serious. Deceiving and leading astray the sheep is so grevious, that God puts a higher standard for those who administer the gospel to the sheep. Basically, their theology comes from the beginning in Genesis, when Satan deceived Eve in the garden. If God open my eyes to the truth, why aren't their eyes opened? Because they resist the Holy Spirit of Truth. They love mammon more than God, they love success more than God and they are not willing to suffer for His name sake. Actually, they think they are "little gods".
@MargaretNahmias3 жыл бұрын
watch the rediscover videos
@phizzelout3 жыл бұрын
@ Steven Kozar great job as always. Thank you for your work.
@paulinacroskey38863 жыл бұрын
St. Croix campus here!!! Hello everyone! So excited to be here.
@incredulouskirk3 жыл бұрын
Hey Saint croix!!!!
@moe56812 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. So grateful for your wisdom, discernment and integrity. Also pretty fabulous that I laugh out loud with you. God bless you
@ginanichols11703 жыл бұрын
Amen thank You Jesus for The Cross✝️💟
@paulgibson3053 жыл бұрын
love you guys and your fair, thought out analysis.
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul!!
@joannaflowers55633 жыл бұрын
YYYYAAAAASSSSS A NEW EPISODE OF HIT THE BAR!!!! 😃😃😃
@moe56812 жыл бұрын
I'm so grateful for you guys! Love you both God bless you
@outdoormedia773 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve and Paulette these videos have been floating around my KZbin algorithm the last month and I’m glad you two are addressing them. Definitely damage control on bethels part, definitely go over the kenosis video, talk about lying through your teeth. God bless you two
@stephanieorr99053 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this detailed commentary alongside the Bethel “damage control “ video. Hearing the scripture after what these men say slows things down enough for us to learn how to think critically, and “see through” their deceptive/lying statements. Thanks much again👍🏻
@bazkib3 жыл бұрын
No problem Steve, RC Sproul put on and took off his glasses more times than the sun comes out. :)
@jeremiahyeo58633 жыл бұрын
When Chris Valetton says “but he loves God “… The important question is - “which God?” The god of his own belly? If you have become the self-appointed Vicar of Christ, you made yourself out to be God. And if they’re trying to say well he loves Jesus,… Once again - “which Jesus?“ Because it’s not the one of scripture.
@keithsantana1453 жыл бұрын
Just like the Pope.
@p.u.s.h.5323 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize for long videos. The longer the better as far as I'm concerned. One can always pause and come back later...
@amberhebert20623 жыл бұрын
Being spiritual is NOT being a Christian!
@lindajohnson42043 жыл бұрын
We should be spiritual; it's a perfectly good, biblical word. But we should not be spiritual with generic, New Age spirituality, or spirituality about other gods, beliefs or paradigms. We should beware of "spiritualism", for instance, but being spiritual toward the Lord is good.
@lcollins43133 жыл бұрын
Luther had many beliefs that came from his Catholic education , but changed those beliefs as he matured in the scriptural evidence. Those beliefs were “articulated” well in his Book “ Table Talk”, which the Vatican placed a sentence of death on anyone caught in possession of it.! You can buy it.
@beckyrr13 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. Love your informative and funny videos. Give Lucy a hug!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and commenting 🤗❤️ I will hug Lucy right now for you 🙌🏻🤗♥️
@nekochan26563 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. I recently left a church that said and did the same things. They hadn't heard of NAR,weren't a part of it, etc. although they were doing the very practices and even invited an "apostle" to teach a conference. What I don't understand is if Bethel agrees with the "core values" of NAR, why are they trying so hard to distance themselves from it? Just found out that Bill Johnson's wife has cancer and is very ill. Please pray for them. May this health crisis expose the deception and bring them to the truth of Jesus Christ, His Gospel and His Word.
@mjb4693 жыл бұрын
Tragically, Bill Johnson has announced that his wife's cancer has returned and she's undergoing chemotherapy. I don't understand how that awful truth aligns with Bethel's theology.
@rickorider3 жыл бұрын
Yes he says there is no cancer in heaven so there should be no cancer on earth. Very damaging Theology where in reality it does not work. So sad to hear his wife is ill again. Jesus said "my grace is sufficient"
@thomassj873 жыл бұрын
That’s sad to hear. Maybe the Lord will use it to open his and her eyes to the biblical truths!
@thomassj873 жыл бұрын
That’s sad to hear. May the Lord use it to open his and her eyes to the biblical truths!
@thomassj873 жыл бұрын
That’s sad to hear. May the Lord use it to open his and her eyes to the biblical truths!
@thomassj873 жыл бұрын
That’s sad to hear. May the Lord use it to open his and her eyes to the biblical truths!
@deniseadkins29013 жыл бұрын
Whether you started it as a joke or not, you do have campuses all over the world. Usually they have 1 membership wise but that's enough.
@KatMTeach3 жыл бұрын
Ive watched a little of these bethel videos (I haven’t been able to sit through a whole one) It’s so frustrating how their “defense” is pretty much them saying “Hahah we don’t do that”. In none of them are they actually addressing the concerns. They seem geared toward people that already follow them not those that are concerned and searching for truth!
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Exactly-it’s damage control to retain their already gullible followers!
@MountainMimi8163 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Steve and Paulette! I really enjoy and appreciate your videos!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Nancy!! God bless you🙏🏻❤️
@observeroflife00003 жыл бұрын
You two are quite entertaining! That comment and action around 12:30 when you said, "that new electric anointing" and spazzed out for a second had me laughing so hard I had to pause for a few minutes... 🤣 Now, I am only about half way through this video, but the more I watch, the more I just want to comment the things I have been learning. Long story short I have been on the outside looking in at all this for years... Seeing what is happening, but not able to quite connect the dots as you are doing so well at now. I was basically "saved into" this entire belief system while it was in its developmental stages, and then booted and locked out after leaving my "home church" to move to another state. When I say locked out what I mean is, these people teach they ARE "the covering of God" because they ARE "The Church", and without that "covering" that "they" provide we are in grave spiritual danger of some sort. Several years I spent trying to "get back in"... Join a "church family"... Come back under "the covering of the church" and was rejected again and again and again, until I finally gave up. Realizing I had been YEARS without this so called "covering" and yet somehow the enemy hadn't killed me yet. Hadn't dragged me to hell and tormented me day and night for my apparent disobedience of not being under this so called "covering"... Even though they were the ones rejecting me... 😳 100 + churches I attempted to join or become a part of over the course of 10+ years, rejected at each one, yet it was somehow my fault they were rejecting me. They really do hold a very narcissistic ideal of God, His Kingdom, and their place in His Kingdom. Now, Jesus did tell us how to pray and did say we should pray for God's Kingdom to come and His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven, and I don't believe He would have told us to pray that if it wasn't actually God's will for His Kingdom to come and His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven... However, they have taken it as if God has chosen them specifically to be the CAUSE of this happening. The "holy apostles" that brought forth God's will on earth... 🤦♀️ So the next problem is that Jesus told us to go out into all the world and make disciples of all the nations. Disciples. Not apostles, teachers, preachers, prophets, and evangelists. Not sit in a church building, spoon feeding a bunch of "believers" self help sermons and "prophetic words of encouragement"... Go out into all the world and make disciples... Students of the Truth, not "rulers of the church and eventually the world". It is my personal belief after having watched these things develop over the last several years that that it is a false spirit that has been oppressing the church since the very beginning, and growing itself in the delusion of power it gives those who believe and receive it as the Holy Spirit. The strong delusion actually began on the day of Pentecost. The apostles unwittingly summoned the false spirit, the Kundalini spirit, by being in "one accord in one place". Which if we look at the whole of our Christian "history of revival" over the last couple of decades it is very clear that this false spirit was being summoned and able to manifest itself in the physical realm THROUGH all these people being "in one accord in one place". However, the physical manifestations are not the only manifestations of this spirit. There are thousands of false prophets in the world today... Which is another connection point for this whole "movement" they supposedly know nothing about. The Elijah List... Something they are all connected to in one way or another, which is run by Steve Shultz and is pumping out "prophets" like an assembly line in a factory. Each one has a dream, a vision, or a "word from God"... None of which agree with any other dream, vision, or word because it is just a free for all now... This is coming from and based on the belief that these are "the last days" and God is now pouring out His Spirit on all flesh, as MISQUOTED in Acts. The actual scripture about God pouring out His Spirit is in Joel and it says, "AFTERWARD" He will pour out His Spirit ON all flesh... Note... ON, not IN. There is no "infilling" of the Holy Spirit as we have been taught. After what? Joel told us there would first be repentance in the land, and then refreshing in the land, and THEN God would pour out His Spirit on all flesh. Joel said nothing about "the last days". As a matter of fact the only place in the Bible this specific phrase is used is in the doctrines of Paul. Jesus didn't even use this phrase. To me though, that is good news... That we have all been wrong about so many things... Because I believe God has a much better plan for us than we have for ourselves. But we won't be able to experience it until we turn away from all the wrong things we have been taught and are believing. IF My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
@jackiwheeler69636 ай бұрын
Vancouver Washington one person campus checking in !!
@scarlettcartwright64293 жыл бұрын
Hello Kozars!!! Midway, Ga campus checking in. So great to see y'all!!! What a way to spend a Saturday night!! Steven Kozar, you really know how to show your girls a great time!!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻😂🤣❤️
@PassionDCGL113 жыл бұрын
I can’t even believe how obvious the deceiving and manipulating is here… unfortunatelyKris is someone I used to like. 😔 I feel sick about it. Watching the American Gospel completely opened my eyes. I didn’t realize I was following a false gospel. I think partly because I grew up in these kinds of churches and never really heard anything else, till now. Thanks again for your work on these videos! It’s really helping me.
@KristiLEvans13 жыл бұрын
God bless you, Dorothy. ❤️
@kaybrown40103 жыл бұрын
You’re so articulate! 😄 Happy Anniversary!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kay!!
@jb8123 жыл бұрын
I love that she had to hold his hands down from hitting the bar lol
@sphtu83 жыл бұрын
😂
@ptl3163 жыл бұрын
Bonjour Monsieur et Madame Kozar et Lucy, French campus signing in, a bit late but still présent. 🤗🤓👍
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Fabulous To have you join us!!! 🙌🏻❤️
@NewYawkahBroad3 жыл бұрын
Eager to see my brothers and sisters later for good learning and fellowship. (Oh, for Pete's sake, WHO did the thumbs down??)
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
Kris Vallotton must be on my channel again...
@scrapingrama13 жыл бұрын
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch Bethell spies
@scrapingrama13 жыл бұрын
They will be digging out for a long long long time
@NewYawkahBroad3 жыл бұрын
@@scrapingrama1 These NAR people are so ridiculous and immature.
@NewYawkahBroad3 жыл бұрын
@@prophetcarnivaltechnician7222 Steve and Pauline have never let me down in their assessments or telling their experiences. This comment would make sense if I didn't have many prior experiences of the high quality of people they are. Did you also give this snarky answer to the thumbs down person? Oh, maybe YOU are the thumbs down person.......
@bryanmorrissey13003 жыл бұрын
Colchester UK campus checking in. Love the videos you make.
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Hello Bryan from our our Colchester UK campus 🤗🙌🏻 thank you for watching and checking in!!! 🙌🏻 We are thrilled you enjoy these videos! God bless you 🙏🏻
@dorothyhinz35433 жыл бұрын
Back at you from Grouard, Alberta
@annasanders353 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You guys are amazing 🙏 God bless x
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch3 жыл бұрын
You are too kind! Thanks for watching!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Anna!! ❤️🙏🏻
@charleshays54073 жыл бұрын
Remember Sergeant Schultz on Hogan's Heroes? "I know nothing!"
@teresafarrell64573 жыл бұрын
😄
@EAB-bz6yi3 жыл бұрын
.....just give him a chocolate bar! Right?
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
🤣🙌🏻
@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh6 ай бұрын
ROTFL! I LOVE IT! "I know nothink!"
@sermonscraps3 жыл бұрын
It's like Greg Maddux throwing a shutout in less than 100 pitches. Then commentators dubbing it "The Maddux" and asking Greg Maddux if he has ever thrown the "Maddux," and he says, "I have no clue what you're talking about."
@caroleimani97542 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are discussing the NAR.. I have heard of them before, buy I didn't know what they believed...I guess I thought it was some kind of government thing.
@arkuipers5303 жыл бұрын
Vallotton is trying to separate NAR theology from its practical appication in the same manner as he separates catholicism from the Popes ‘love for God’ and his ‘speaking in tongues’ as a prove of being Spirit filled. In other words, what you believe doesn’t matter, as long as your heart and your actions are right. This in essence is NAR. About the fathering part, it really is cultic. Jesus tells us to not call people our father. (Matt 23:9)
@KD_94943 жыл бұрын
Great summary of what I think they were trying to express. This should be the top comment 💯
@barbaraburke29373 жыл бұрын
Love y'all, awesome help here and exposing the NAR, love your Hit the Bar and Messed Up Church videos. May our precious Lord Jesus Christ continue to bless you in all you do for Him. Sending love hugs and prayers to you and your family and ministry too🤗🕊️💖📖🙌 give Lucy hugs for me too🤗🐾💖 (before I go, brief update on my dad, everything is now pending for my dad's moving to the VA home anytime within these 2-4 weeks for his health wellbeing and safety overall, I'll even feel better that he'll at least be out of his old condemnable house where it is not safe for him to stay until the demolition and new house build for him is done, no exact date for this demolition and new house build yet too)
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
God bless you sweet sister and all you do for your papa! May God continue to guide and direct you and bless you and your dad during this transition 🙏🏻❤️ Much love to you sweet sister!!
@barbaraburke29373 жыл бұрын
@@paulettekozar2629 thank you 🤗💖 today, the VA retirement nursing home administrator called, he'll be in there either by the end of this week or as early as next week. His 1st 2 weeks he'll have to be under quarantine before he goes to his room there where he'll be staying, during those 2 weeks he will not be allowed any visitors to physically visit him in person, I'm his only family he has closer by (within 2hrs apart one way depending on traffic) rest of family lives a bit over 2000 miles away). My only concern for those 2 weeks while in quarantine, their policy and procedures due to COVID-19, he'll feel isolated and lonely during that time, and he might go down hill because he will not be allowed and physical contact with family even though he may be allowed to talk over the phone with loved ones, he may also have video chat, but he doesn't understand the concepts of how to do so. It's the physical isolation for those 2 weeks he may not do well. And, praying that he'll have strength in the midst to hang in there through those 2 weeks. 😔🙏I'll be there to visit him after the 2 weeks are over and when he'll be in his room and freed from the quarantine. 😊🤗💖 love y'all and God bless you, Brother Steven and Lucy and your family too 🤗💖 I'll keep y'all updated as I know how he is doing too🤗💖
@kolincindykouhout52783 жыл бұрын
NC campus here, reminder set! Woo hoo!!!!
@markmoore83993 жыл бұрын
My parents and I went to the Smithfield's Chicken-N-BBQ at the Nashville campus Friday.
@kolincindykouhout52783 жыл бұрын
@@markmoore8399 HA! Fun! I think we should have a Hit the Bar party with all of the NC campuses!
@markmoore83993 жыл бұрын
@@kolincindykouhout5278 I might have to drive down from the PA campus for that.
@kolincindykouhout52783 жыл бұрын
@@markmoore8399 oh boy, sounds like a road trip!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of Chicken-N-BBQ!!! We have a very dear friend we visit in Nashville 🤗🙌🏻 God bless you all🙏🏻❤️
@blessedchild72932 жыл бұрын
Shout out from Tacoma Washington campus. Love your work..
@audreym793 жыл бұрын
I fully believe the NAR is the new world religion.
@DebbieMason3 жыл бұрын
I think so, too. And I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are falling prey to it. It breaks my heart. I pray that God will open their eyes.
@arditienthusiast83844 ай бұрын
The more I hear about its influence spreading and how it speaks about the seven mountain mandate. It seems like the best false messiah is a literal fake version of Jesus himself.
@richardpaggi99882 жыл бұрын
Love you guys, too bad I’m going into work now, looking forward to my lunch break so I can continue to listen!! Love you Lucy!!!❤️Prayers to you all!!!🙏🙏
@michellegordon86273 жыл бұрын
Congratulations you two from your Mattapoisett Campus!
@paulettekozar26293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michelle!!! 🙏🏻🤗
@bornagain8419 ай бұрын
My wife's parents the Horrock's lived here--my wife was Rosemary.
@donsimonds51863 жыл бұрын
This was a good video guys, this is my second time it's kind of like leftovers from it the restaurant they're better warmed up the second time. Blessings.
@miaminight56372 жыл бұрын
Hey Kozars, happy New year, don't know if you've done a video on David Hernandez, on fresh fire of the Holy Spirit falling on a new generation, typical prophetic fruad. 🙏🕊💜