HK Mark 23 vs HK USP 45 vs HK45

In this video, I have my HK Mark 23, USP 45, and HK45.

[@crazy82991]

Nice music! I've wanted to get one of these pistols ever since I played MGS1.

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Growing up playing Metal Gear Solid inspired me to own these pistols as an adult. Thanks to Kojima, I am now an HK fanboy! They are awesome pistols, you should definitely get one. The USP runs factory new for about $950ish, HK45 for about $750ish, and Mark 23 (Snake's gun) is about $1700-$2000 price range depending on the dealer. Get one and you'll know what I mean. Thanks again for dropping by!

[@mrgutz100]

I agree with every comment about HK and MGS abd the choice of music thanks for the vid!

[@touofthehighplains]

Searching youtube for Mark 23 reviews is nearly impossible with all the airsoft reviews that are mixed in. Searching for any other gun is no problem.

[@johnyoungs7453]

Not really - it's all dependant on what specifically you put into the search box. Yes, you'll have to scroll through them and look. Colion Noir, an African-American guy who also does reviews for the NRA, has some excellent reviews on the Mk 23, for starters..!!

[@johnyoungs7453]

Here's a good review on the comparison between an HK .45 & the Mk 23: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faC6k355mrxlZ9E

[@airabe5385]

I'm a huge fan of your videos. The variety is great between, gaming, guns, and lifestyle. Keep up the great work and hope to see more uploads👍

[@Zero-qz5zr]

AIRABE, thank you for the comment, I appreciate it! I grew up in the 90's and during that time I've been a huge fan of certain Playstation video game titles. I will have more content soon on a custom pistol build that I am currently working on. The next video I have coming up will be the Resident Evil 3 Eagle 6.0 pistol.

[@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3]

One thing I know for sure is a major difference. The MK 23 Socom is around twice the price of the USP.

[@johnyoungs7453]

For a reason. Scroll down a ways & read.

[@johnyoungs7453]

It's "twice the gun". The differences come from what you can't see - not what you can..!

[@robosdrumworld]

GREAT VIDEO AWESOME MUSIC!!!

[@Majorbanjo]

Great comparison! In the market for a HK.....found this helpful......I'd love to own a Mark 23 just for what it is.....but I'm more interested in the USP 45 vs HK 45 and even more the SK/compact models.....like HK45c, VP9SK, and P2000SK models....thanks for your videos...

[@Zero-qz5zr]

I have the HK P30L and P30sk.. I'll be reviewing those soon. Yeah, the Mark 23 is a must have collector's pistol in my opinion. If you're deciding between the three hogs, try the USP 45, it won't disappoint. Thanks for dropping by!

[@HeroicSarge1]

I own a mark 23 it was in metal gear solid

[@grendel.6.531]

Nice review, I currently own an early USP 45 and have to say that it’s hands down the best a acp sold to the public…EVER. Having said that, I have tried for years now to not buy a MK 23. It’s like a drug to the addicted, and I’m going to give in to temptation after I sell another AR to fund the purchase. Somehow that let’s me justify the purchase. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. 👍🇺🇸🦅

[@Zero-qz5zr]

You will cherish your mark 23 , I can guarantee that.

[@johnyoungs7453]

Where you really need to understand the difference between the less-expensive HK .45's and the Mk 23, is to understand firstly, that the guns were built for different purposes. The "USP .45's" were built specifically for civilian and law enforcement scenarios and environments. The Mk 23 was built for "special operators" within the US SOCOM community to take an enormous amount of physical punishment and come out unscathed, or at least, nearly so. If you take any HK .45 and field-strip it - removing the complete upper receiver (the slide, the barrel, & the recoil spring assembly) from the frame - then do the same for the Mk 23. After you've field-stripped both guns, place their lower receivers side-by-side, and then take a GOOD look downward at the "innards" of both guns. This is how you'll actually be able to see for yourself WHY the old argument of "Well, the Mk 23 is just another HK .45, only with a longer barrel and slide...!" is such bullshit..!! Yeah.... The first thing you'll notice, relative to the Mk 23, is that ALL the parts you're looking at are bigger, thicker, "beefier", and stouter - in some cases, up to 50% - or more, compared to any of the other Hk .45's. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/faC6k355mrxlZ9E). Secondly, a few of you guys who happen to own both the HK .45 as well as the Mk 23 will realize that the HK .45 series have to be shot quite a bit before they start to look like they're losing their finishes - the slide, the outside of the barrel, etc. Then, you'll realize that after only a relatively few rounds have been put through your Mk 23, it almost looks like it's been through WWIII...! Why do you suppose that is..?? Because the Mk 23, as it comes down the assembly line, is not merely a "parts" gun, wherein the various parts of the gun, similar to the Hk .45, are simply installed and the gun continues down the assembly line to the next person or station. The HK Mk 23 is literally "hand-fitted" to much closer tolerances. Ever wonder why the barrel of a Mk 23 is so much harder to remove from the slide when field-stripping it for cleaning, etc, when compared to the HK .45 series...? Tighter tolerances is the reason. The Mk 23 is twice as expensive as the HK .45 series of pistols - not because it's "a cool range toy" or, "We do that because we can", and all of the other bullshit lines you'll get from amateur "reviewers" who know little or nothing about what they're talking about. It's more expensive because it's built tougher and stouter. It's literally designed to go through hell & back and keep its owner alive in the process. It was designed with a "This gun cannot fail - period!!" attitude. There are people who cannot afford to get a Mk 23, and, as the old cliché suggests: "Misery loves company" - i.e., they can't get a Mk 23 so they'll bash the hell out of it and try to make everyone else "out there" think that the Mk 23 is just an "over-bloated, unnecessarily expensive piece of s _ _ t", never giving a second thought to what really goes into the making of that gun..! Now, am I "bashing" the Hk .45 series of guns...? Not at all. They're essentially fine guns in their own right, but you must first understand, as I've said before, what purpose these guns were originally, specifically, designed for. The average (and this has been well-documented, BTW...) civilian gun owner will shoot a particular gun roughly 250-300 times in the length of time he or she has it. Some will shoot it a lot more, and some will never put a single round through it - they'll put it in a safe or drawer at home and never shoot it. Gun manufacturers know this, and will design & build guns accordingly. Does HK take "shortcuts" with their standard USP .45's..? No, I don't at all believe they do. However, the guns would certainly not stand up to the complete torture tests that the Mk 23 went through decades ago, back when it was in its testing phases. Many of the Mk 23's parts were intentionally "overbuilt" - specifically, so the gun would be sure to get it's owner back out alive and out of a "sticky" situation, assuming the operator didn't first run out of ammo, of course. The bottom line..? The Mk 23, subject to the vagaries of commerce, will always be more expensive than the other HK .45's. It was built to last and last. More so than any other handgun in existence, regardless of the country it came from, or the manufacturer that designed and built it. It is "the" most reliable and dependable handgun on the market - new or used. As long as it gets cleaned occasionally, it will never let you down, in my opinion, and I stand by it...!! And by the way, I own three (3) of these. If you think I'm putting you on, give me your email address and I'll send you a photo of all three together - with me in the background. One to carry, one in my safe as a backup, and one, well, I guess to put it simply: because I really love these guns..!! :-)

[@grendel.6.531]

@@johnyoungs7453 thanks for the reply, I’ve been doing a lot of research lately and I am getting a MK 23. You actually gave me more info than I could dig up. Thanks again, and watch your 6. 🙏

[@johnyoungs7453]

@@grendel.6.531 "kzbin.info/www/bejne/faC6k355mrxlZ9E" Good physical comparison review between the two gun types, if you've not seen this one. - J

[@rickhunter6513]

@@grendel.6.531 USP 45 no doubt is an excellent .45 but for me, the Sig P220 is a nicer shooter only limited by its anemic 7-8 round capacity.

[@rjg02005]

I'm here for the Metal Gear.

[@Noypi54494]

Good shooting bro! What state you in? I just used my points at Cabelas and ordered a MK23 over the weekend as soon as I saw it was available. Feels great to finally get a grail handgun and better yet for free. Now the wait until I can pick her up

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Glad to hear that you made an excellent choice in your next .45 acp pistol. The mark 23 is my all time favorite grail pistol in my collection!

[@johnyoungs7453]

If you don't want the gun's "lock block" (located at the bottom, inside rear portion of the grip) installed in your Mk 23, you can buy a replacement "blank" or "solid" polymer block from HK Parts Store for around $10 or $12 dollars. The "Euro" version of this gun doesn't come with that lock block and the blank version is already installed. Also, "Tornado Technologies" of Beaverton, Oregon sells what I would consider a superior thread-protector cap for the end of your gun's muzzle. It protects the muzzle crown and, inside the forward end of the cap, there's a soft, latex rubber O-ring which will keep the cap on your barrel's muzzle while firing & keep it from loosening & unscrewing while firing the gun.

[@thomasmcozart1093]

Thank you for the review. Is the recoil any less on the USP45 or the HK45?

[@Zero-qz5zr]

I think all three have somewhat equal recoil, but I would say the hk usp45 is the most balanced one

[@thomasmcozart1093]

@@Zero-qz5zr Thank you very much.

[@johnyoungs7453]

Less by a wee bit on the USP-T, I think.

[@rickhunter6513]

If you could only have one, USP 45 all day. But I sure as hell would not be disappointed owning a MK23 or HK45

[@silverbackgorilla2112]

Nice video and great shooting!

[@Artisanal-Autism]

What's that you have range videos and game videos. Well sir, you got yourself another subscriber.

[@Z3AL316]

Question, do you know where I can find an HK USP 45 brand new? None of my local gun stores have them

[@Zero-qz5zr]

which state do you live in?

[@harryniedecken5321]

Is it just a perception that the 23 looks a bit more jumpy? With the weight and longer barrel I thought it would be the least. Thanks for the video

[@johnyoungs7453]

Yes, slightly. But, it is much softer in "felt" recoil when compared to the other HK .45 series - I've shot them all so I can give an honest comparison between them all.

[@harryniedecken5321]

@@johnyoungs7453 Thank you. I am still going back and forth over. 45 lc vs .45 acp as I have quite a bit more experience with revolvers vs the pistols. Sometimes I wish they could be setup to only cycle manually.

[@Trey-p2x]

As long as you do your part. It has a ton of reciprocating mass so if you don’t drive the gun hard like you’re supposed to it can actually kick like a mule. If you do, it’s very soft.

[@Catgat37]

​@@Trey-p2x I doubt it will "kick like a mule" unless you don't have much experience with anything more than 9mm. I am getting one soon. Was never a metal gear solid fan. I am getting because I know the track record of it. And as soon as I put one in my hands recently, it just felt right.

[@r4id1337]

Hey mate realy nice Video:) Can i use same sights on the hk45 and usp ? Grz r4id

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Hey there, I don’t believe the usp 45 and hk45 sights are interchangeable due each gun having a different cut.

[@johnyoungs7453]

No. The dovetails on the Mark 23 are totally different than the HK .45 series of pistols. I recently had Tooltech Gunsight of Oxford, Michigan custom-install Tritium night sights on two of my 3 Mark 23's (slides).

[@MusikCabaret]

bought the HK45 because I couldnt afford the USP. Im glad its still a good contender.

[@SmithASB]

MusikCabaret the HK45T is a better buy than the USP. Plus it’s an upgraded variant of the USP lineage.

[@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3]

@@SmithASB but it looks ugly.

[@johnyoungs7453]

@@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3 Maybe if you took its features and functionality into consideration, you might very well think differently about it...!!

[@pcthiker2390]

“This is Snake.”

[@Zero-qz5zr]

“Otacon, can you hear me?”

[@gonzisonsbc]

Hahahahaha funny story for you. My buddy in middle school rented the Sony Playstation and Metal Gear Solid from Blockbuster video back in the 90's. He didn't have a memory card so he had to keep the console on all weekend in order to beat the game. Good times.

[@pcthiker2390]

@gonzisonsbc Lmao!!! Yup, the struggle was real! The good old days of the 90s. I bet your buddy became an mgs expert after that experience.

[@Zero-qz5zr]

gonzisonsbc lol I know that exact feeling. My brother and I were in that situation when we were in grade school. We bought resident evil directors cut and didn’t have a memory card so we had to play the game all the way through with numerous attempts until we finally beat it!

[@gonzisonsbc]

@@pcthiker2390 Yup. I remember something about Snake wearing a tuxedo if you beat the game in some specific way.

[@frankgonzalez3822]

Starts at 6:12 for information

[@muaythai193]

Have you ever shot a 21 or 21C? How does felt recoil compare with the MK23

[@Zero-qz5zr]

I’ve shot the 21 before, I feel like the recoil was fairly the same , the mark 23 could have slightly a little more recoil.

[@muaythai193]

@@Zero-qz5zr Thank you! Asking because the 21 is so soft to shoot, so if the MK23 is in the same ballpark that’s perfect! 👍

[@windyrun7979]

I'm in the market for a 45 and am considering either the USP or the HK45T (seems like they have similar street prices). Question: a peeve of mine is brass being thrown back at me. It looks in the video like the USP sends brass at a 90 degree angle from the shooter so not back at you . the HK 45 looks like it throws brass back at you. Is this correct or just the camera angle? The hk45 is appealing so wondering if it throws brass back at you. Thank you

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Windy Run hi there, honestly you can’t go wrong with either. As far as the brass ejection goes, it’s just the camera angle. The hk45 will not eject brass back at your face. The hk usp will run roughly about $850-950. Th hk45 will be about 7-850$. Prices varies from dealer to dealer. The tactical models, I know that the uspt’s run for about 1k -1.1k$

[@windyrun7979]

@@Zero-qz5zr Hey there Zero3, thank you for your prompt reply. Sounds good. I think I subjectively prefer the USP - can't say why :)

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Windy Run nice! You won’t be disappointed, i can tell you that. Excellent choice.

[@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3]

I know for sure the 1911 throws brass back at you, I had a burn on my face to prove it when it got caught in my mask.

[@johnyoungs7453]

@@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3 Only if the ejector is adjusted and shaped properly. I've never had one thrown back in my face & I own half a dozen 1911's, incl. a customized Para-ordnance P-14, and they all eject off to the side. It sounds like it can either be an ejector issue or lack of a tuned extractor, or possibly both. A lot of gunsmiths really don't seem to understand the proper relationship between the those two parts. Also, your ejection port should be shaped to extract the shell casing properly without "pinching" the empty casing on ejection from the port. That's another issue that often needs to be addressed with custom-built 1911's. Out of the box HK .45's are seldom a problem. Also, with 1911's, you must realize that original, stock, out of the box, 1911 ejectors and extractor designs were based on shooting round-nose, "ball" ammunition. HK .45's are designed specifically to efficiently eject hollow point casings - their extractors & ejectors are designed and shaped differently than the equivalent 1911 parts, for strong ejection from the gun's ejection port.

[@drake0074]

That Mark 23 is like a brick!

[@Zero-qz5zr]

It's a tank indeed!

[@johnyoungs7453]

Yeah, but for a reason...!!

[@seancollins2783]

Do you use any of these as a everyday carry ?

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Hey what’s up brotha. As Everyday carry for ccw? Definely no for the mark 23 lol ,however, manageable for the usp 45 and hk45,but it won’t be comfy( just my opinion from experience).i wish I could carry these as an everyday service pistol, but every agency has their own policies which most only authorize standard issued pistols with their respective contracted brand. These are basically my nightstand/shtf pistols

[@johnyoungs7453]

I carry a Mk 23 concealed daily in a large, leather fanny pack holster. No problems. It has a Surefire X-400 Ultra 1,000-lumen weapon (white) light on it with a green laser, attached to a GG&G pic rail attachment. I carry it just fine. :-)

[@JustinSmith-ym4me]

Dig the mgs ost for the hk vid.

[@MARCUSROGERS21]

The H&K USP is a 9MM in MGS2

[@reker.a5790]

Usp45 for the win.

[@youvandal411vm]

Why recoil so much bro? Edit: I see once the gloves got on your control was way better. Sweaty hands?

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Good observations, and yes you are correct. I shot a lot of rounds before I started filming so my hands started getting clammy and the gun tended to slip out of my grip under recoil.

[@joeyd2715]

Almost halfway, only see someone sitting the guns, no fing commentary

[@areaperii998]

Usp45 much better^^

[@Zero-qz5zr]

The USP 45 is a great gun for sure.

[@poolboy1690]

The first 75% of this video does not communicate anything. Literally a waste of my time to try and watch this

[@tanman7627]

I went FNX tactical..

[@Zero-qz5zr]

Not a bad choice, I used to own a .45acp fnx tactical in fde. It was a great gun, the only reason I sold it was because I wasn't a big fan of the grips.

[@johnyoungs7453]

Zero3, could you PLEASE turn off that wailing music playing in the background while you're talking...?? Jesus, that is irritating as hell to listen to..!! No offense or disrespect to your tastes in music, but it sounds a lot like two wounded cats fighting..!! I was developing a serious headache listening to that stuff...! The problem comes from trying to hear what you're saying while having to listen to that stuff. You can't turn down one without turning down the other...!! Yech...!!

[@Zero-qz5zr]

No one is forcing you to listen to it, nor watch my video. Sounds like someone has some personal problems lol

[@johnyoungs7453]

@@Zero-qz5zr You missed my point. I would love to turn down that screeching noise you refer to as "music". But if I do that, then I can't hear what you're saying, either. You can't have it either way. All I'm saying is, if you're gonna do videos like this, it would be nice if you turned off the background "noise" while you're talking. I'm just giving you this as "food for thought".

[@joeyd2715]

Over halfway only see firing, yawn

[@Catgat37]

Then you are not a firearms enthusiast