Hk USP VS FN FNX

[@jason_m_schmidt622]

The engineering of the USP is incredible. No fancy nonsense just a true combat handgun.

[@wadejacobus]

I have some counterpoints for you and you don't have to like them. I'm perfectly willing to admit my bias that I already own an fnx45. consider the following: flexibility vs. rigidity - if something is not flexible, it follows that it is brittle. fn is not dumb and they probably did not choose the pliability of the frame on accident. it is clear from the video that you are going to great effort to flex the frame but it is both strong and elastic, and returning to form. this is a desirable characteristic for something you want to receive a beating because it is less likely to crack due to its plasticity. gaps- the fnx tac is designed to be an excellent suppressor host. I cant prove this, but the presence of large gaps may have a degree of functionality in allowing gas and soot to escape somewhere that doesn't throw more debris onto your red dot reticle when suppression creates more back pressure. barrel: hk does go to greater lengths to ensure the precision of their barrel in the slide, however the o-ring is a wear item and may prove to be a disadvantage at a time when you may not be able to conveniently replace it. fn's barrel is also excellent and you wont out shoot the fnx especially at the ranges that 45 is usable for. same goes for the adjustable sight. i see the utility but not in this application. 45 acp, relatively short barrels, and the fact that it is a handgun more or less negates a lot of precision tools that have an application on something like a rifle. i am less impressed that hk didn't add any visibility markings to the sights where fn went to the trouble of including radium night sights for shots in total darkness. springs: the hk magazines have better spring pressure to be sure. the finish and quality of the blued metal fn magazines does make it so that you do not have to worry about your magazines easily evacuating the magwell. I certainly haven't had any issues because the spring pressure is too low. as for the recoil spring, I applaud german engineering for coming up with a complex and effective solution to mitigate recoil exceptionally well. i am not a big fan of designs that introduce more failure points, or are more difficult/expensive to replace. the fn's flat helical spring is designed to handle many thousands more rounds that other wire design recoil springs because of the way the flat spring's geometry causes it to flex less overall. all these combined with hk not having very good aftermarket support, customer support, parts availability, and generally not playing nice with the civilian market, means even if hk's product was objectively slightly better in all the ways you are saying it is, I might still want to give my business to a company like fn who treats its customers well. p.s. fn if you read this please sponsor me

[@skullparty7638]

I have the fnx45T, It's a dream... Lol I see the concerns but from what I understand this gun just works.

[@danallen4479]

Mabe in 9mm but in 45acp super BOOM!!!!

[@michaelphillips5786]

HK Barrel orings are designed to go ten thousand rounds, you get 5 with the gun. The we are HK and hate civilians is pure nonsense. VP is the German abbreviation for "people's pistol " meaning civilians.. I had to call FN regarding my new FN REFLEX, the customer service sucked, a sample of one. USP resale value and new pricing going up like Rolex submariners .. There is a reason for this...

[@danallen4479]

Mike that is all I own is USPs nothing else! 😐@@michaelphillips5786

[@jameseverett4144]

I got the fnx 45 thinking of 460 Rowland someday, hk not recommended . Meanwhile threaded barrel, suppressor height sights, red dot ready, 45 super capable, 3 15 round mags replaceable back strap for improved grip, and I don't want mags to fall out uncontrolled...thanks for sharing, cheers.

[@LawlessNate]

This makes me feel better about my recent usp purchase, thanks.

[@johnnygungame9612]

Your welcome Bro the Hk USP is a really special gun every one should have one

[@kennethwalton5582]

You REALLY made me feel good about my decision to get the USP 45 LEM over the Glock 21. Luckily, I own several HK’s and I know how accurate they are and the LEM trigger is my favorite.

[@reker.a5790]

Slide to frame fit has nothing to do with accuracy. Only barrel to slide fitment. Just FYI

[@tribesecurity2170]

The HK USP in .40 S&W was my very first handgun. I have Zero regrets.

[@mr.horseshoe2301]

Thanks for the comparison. I have a .45 suppressor in jail and was looking into my options. Thanks to your video, I am 100% going for the HK USP. Or I'll save up a little more and get a Mark 23.

[@johnnygungame9612]

EXCELLENT choice.. I have both MARK 23 and USP 45. Initially, I thought the mark 23 was a bigger version of a USP but they are two different platforms and I believe of the two the Mark 23 is the most accurate and the most lethal but you can’t go wrong with either one 😎🔥🔥🔥

[@KRW628]

Thank you Johnny. I'll remember this when I make my purchase.

[@johnnygungame9612]

Your welcome, thank you 🙏🏾 for your comment Bro 😎

[@reker.a5790]

Had both. Sold the FNX and bought 3 more H&k USP’s. Easy decision.

[@josephguillen5655]

Put both of these pistols through the same stress test and the USP will win every time. HK for the win 🏆

[@joshkovitz6818]

Makes me feel fine about my decision towards FNX. More rounds, more modern

[@gracedagostino5231]

Very thorough look at the difference in quality between these 2 guns! I own a Glock 26, and HK p2000sk, shoot them both well, but the HK has a much more quality feel, and pride of ownership. I read that the p2000 is more related to the USP line, then the newer HK models such as p30, HK 45, and vp9. Do you think the newer HK models have the same quality of the USP line?

[@stringfan11]

Thank you for this video Johnny. I have the HK VP9 and was now looking at different options for .45 ACP. These two were in my list along with the Walter PPQ and the S&M M&P. I will take this info to make a good decision. Keep the videos coming.

[@jdb0272]

Regarding the safety detent, slide release etc using them efficiently is a matter of training and practice. Not a big deal at all. Very easy to adjust to size of the fn levers.

[@thomaskingsbury6560]

Things being as they are both guns are great. I own both and in a side by side double blind taste test people found that tasters choice sucked but they had a blast shooting both of these guns. The fn survived military trials so that speaks to its durability in that arena. As well if my fn fails I’ll finish the job with the hk usp elite 45 with 6” barrel. It is not a vp. I like them both.

[@vitocarbonara7770]

This was a very nice video. More of this is needed. Many consumers love to purchase based on their uninformed dilusional preference and concluded that quality is based on price and what wveryone else is buying. FN designed a sexy gun....Hk designed excellence. FN BUILT a Glock with a threaded barrel and a red dot!!!

[@jamalmckenzie3822]

I wouldn't call the fn a glock

[@HouseofTaint]

As an FNX 45 Tactical owner, I wanted to be butt hurt; as an engineer/machinist, I couldn't be. While I love my FNX T vehemently, now I'm back to also wanting a USP, like I have since I was a kid.

[@bruce5648]

I've had both I still own my fnx-45 I hope that answers the question

[@rickygutierrez9820]

Great comparison video. And that’s why I have a usp 45.

[@reker.a5790]

USP is built much more rugged. Trigger mechanism is far preferred. Safety is far more positive.

[@jasonroberts9357]

I used to feel the same way until my HK P2000's trigger died(trigger return spring broke) suddenly under 1000 rounds. My FNX 40 on the other hand.....2000+ rounds, and ZERO failures of any kind!

[@reker.a5790]

@@jasonroberts9357 understand anomalies happen with every brand. That experience is not indicative of the average experience with the platform. The truth of the matter - the design extends to every single pistol currently in production from H&K and how many issues do you hear about? How often do they say to change it? Ask an H&k armorer and see what they say.

[@jasonroberts9357]

@@reker.a5790 I agree. Just making a comment in response to your statement of HK pistols being more rugged compared to the FN. HK pistols do have a (deserved) excellent reputation. My issue was probably a fluke(bad batch of springs?). An HK rep. said the trigger return spring is rated to last 20k rounds. The HK failure just stings because it usually is placed next to my Ruger P95 in my gun closet. The P95 was bought brand new 24 years(for $250) ago has about 8k rounds though it, and has never had any issues! After replacing the spring on the HK and doing some testing, hopefully my confidence can be restored. All the best to you!

[@tazzywazzy7599]

Thank you sir. Great review!!!!!!!!

[@rolltidetactical3912]

Wow thank you for showing me this video I have a HK and I was thinking about getting the Fnx but after watching this video the only way I'll get an FNX if I see it for $300 or less cuz that's about what it's worth

[@johnnygungame9612]

Unfortunately your right, I wish I had known before I spent $1200.00 on mine, I’m looking for a HK USP.45 TACTICAL to replace my FNX. make sure you subscribe I have more great content on the way. Honest reviews I’m not sponsored or on anyone’s payroll

[@sissydreams7494]

@@johnnygungame9612 DId you get the 45 USP Tactical? I just got mine last week. Total GRAIL gun!!! It's a dream come true!

[@sissydreams7494]

I own three HK USPs (plus 4 other HK pistols). You pay for quality. BUT IT IS QUALITY. There is NO comparison between a HK USP and an FN FNX 45 Tactical. The FN has frame flex, a horribly blocky grip, an awful double action trigger pull... The list goes on. Plus the price is horrific. The HK is so much better ($1,300 for an FNX 45 Tactical? really?). Hold an HK in your hands and experience the build quality. If you only value round count, get the FNX and live with the inferiority of the weapon you bought. I'll carry my HK. along with an extra mag. LOL 🙂

[@michaelboldyga6239]

You don't know what your talking about when you bring up that frame flex BS . When Glocks first came out everyone raved about how the frame flex soaked up recoil and there were no reliability issues . Now this guy claims it's bad juju . Nothing he mentions has any effect on the reliability or function of the FN pistol , it's all just bias towards the H&K and it's all baloney .

[@sissydreams7494]

@@michaelboldyga6239 Well, opinions vary. However, many KZbin reviewers have mentioned the flimsiness of the FNX grip and how it flexes. Will it ever be a real problem? Maybe not. However, the point is that the build quality isn't as solid as some of the competition -- including, but not limited to, HK.

[@smptactical259]

I own the FNX-45 Tactical and Mark 23, no comparison.

[@moogies3754]

Yeah I’d hope when one costs nearly double what the other does

[@michaelmulholland3504]

Good Video.....I love my HKs....

[@N238E]

Wow. Thank you for talking me out of getting the FNX. Let me show you a comment I left on another channel. Your video really put things into perspective. "I'm currently debating whether to get the FNX-45 Tactical or the USP 45 Tactical. What annoys me is the FNX-45 comes out of the box with suppressor height night sights and a thread protector, while the USP does not. Keep in mind the USP is $340 more expensive, not including the thread protector and night sights which you still have to get. Lastly, I haven't been able to find suppressor height sights for the USP. For some reason Trijicon only makes standard height night sights for it. So in conclusion, if I go with the USP over the FNX, I'll be shelling out $1680 (after upgrades) instead of $1200, and I still wouldn't have all the features the FNX comes with out of the box. The ONLY reason I'm still even considering the USP, is because it's a USP. In your video where you had like six of them on the table, you said the USP is the MOST tested and proven handgun ever made, or something to that effect. I think I still favor the USP even after all of this. If the standard (non-tactical) USP 45 wasn't sold out at the moment, I wouldn't even be considering the FNX or the USP Tactical."

[@johnnygungame9612]

DA20 Bro BUY THE USP 45 TACTICAL…. I promise you won’t regret it. It’s worth every penny. The Tactical dose come with ADJUSTABLE NIGHT SIGHTS and you can buy taller sights from Hk, but a better solution is to get a lower profile can. It holds 3 less rounds BUT what no one ever tells you is it’s a real BITCH TO FULLY LOAD A FNX 45 MAG TO 15 Rounds. Seriously you need like a tool. The spring is way too tight and it feels like the floor plate of the mag is gonna break loose. if you leave the mag fully loaded, the spring pressure will also start to crush the bullets. The HK mags load very easy and 12 rounds is more than enough to get the job done. The FNX is nice for the range. But if you got put in some real work you want the Hk on your hip BROTHER 👍🏽

[@kyliejohn3813]

I don’t know if FN also uses glass reinforced polymer like HK does, or uses something different.

[@twowheels2604]

The slide gap on the fn is a cooling port. (;

[@itsnevo8757]

I’ve owned a H&K USP for I don’t know how many years and I never realized it had a decocker.

[@joace8575]

My USP .40 S&W is my favorite of the guns I own!

[@bobbybobby6435]

this was a good informative video

[@starchildi20]

not all so functional factual. but it was funny when doing the mag release tricks. was it just me or was it very noticeable that the angles were consistently different? intentional or not. darn sure looked like the fn barrel frame slide was tilted more to right and the grip was not as sloped. not saying the mag release is not better. but then thats a training issue

[@thefriendlyorcnextdoor9346]

Did you look at the barrel for comparison? Thought the same at first, but its probably bc the angle of the handgrip isn‘t exactly similiar…

[@starchildi20]

@@thefriendlyorcnextdoor9346 I did and I considered that but then the onus should be on him to have them in same place I thought. Like I do when taking pictures of the fish I catch. I hold them out closer to cam to look bigger. Seems like one was more to his right and away. But sum total. I really like my fnx 45 tac except for the the rifling direction and suppressor twist off issue. Maybe a fact of life. but why not offer different rifling direction? No different than right vs left handed qb spiral on football.

[@arizonagroyper]

Yes, it was just you

[@carlpallini1034]

Hk period

[@ask-mw5hk]

Real gun review!

[@tedbou]

Do I think the shortcomings of the FNX are greatly exaggerated or wrong in this video... yes... do I love my FNX45 .. yes. This is a bit of apple and oranges and a lot depends on individual use we are not all Seals....to say that FNH is not a respected historic manufacturer of outstanding firearms would be ludicrous . For 90% of pistol enthusiasts the FNX will serve us well. There are so many things to like about it including that which is solely personal like the aesthetics the look and feel..I feel sorry for those just starting to get into shooting and reading these type of reviews...these reviews find that guns are either seriously flawed or able to withstand the apocalypse.... well I own a Ram truck and I use it and I enjoy it..., now would a Mercedes Unimog do better in the apocalypse... well probably....I love my FNX the feel of it in my hands how it looks and how well I shoot it the rest is neurotic hair splitting.

[@francostacy7675]

I don’t have either one of those guns. Most of those differences are by design and not quality issues and not a big deal or at least most are not a big deal. You didn’t discuss other differences that are in favor of the FN, which makes it seem you are trying to bias us and NOT inform us. Should have discussed the price, the triggers and the FN is ambidextrous. All people I know or heard of have no function issues with the FN. The closest you got to price was to say the HK cost more for quality….well if that is why price is not a factor to you, then the Stacatto or CZ shadow is a far better gun the HK. The Glock is a cheap gun, I’m not a fan, but nobody disputes its reliability and is used by military and law enforcement and has a lot more in common with the FN than the HK. Like to see the HK in a mud test, generally really tight tolerance guns can’t handle water, mud and sand

[@johnnygungame9612]

You make a very valid point, I’m going to do a part 2 to this video with the FNX VS HK USP TACTICAL.45 and I will take your advice on my next review. Thanks 🙏🏾 😊

[@michaelphillips5786]

Great review 👍

[@mrsnickers2003]

You work for HK or something? First.....when you squeeze the mag well, you are gripping at the edge on the FN and further up on the HK, Not to mention you are obviously pressing harder. Second....the HK (to it's credit) has longer rear frame rails, so it won't show as much light through. Before anyone slams me, I have both firearms myself. I like them both. This gives 2A content creators a bad rep.

[@kennethbaker5223]

You work for FN or something? 😃 If KZbinrs have a bad rep, show them how it’s done by making your own content.

[@KathyHarris-v5u]

If it comes to a fire fight having three more rounds I would pick the fnx but at the range I pick the hk pretty simple 😅

[@KaneGregory]

Ummm Glock has this also and we all agree it’s built well also drop them in sand or dirt your gonna love that gap because it want jam like the HK will!🤷🏻‍♂️🤯🔫

[@johnnygungame9612]

My HK’s don’t Jam

[@bruce5648]

FNX all day

[@tonycolca2241]

You should ne:er release rhe slide with the last round catch. Thats what it is for to hold the slde open after last round is fired.

[@TylerHaskiell-fs3mx]

Yeah cz for me by FAR! But the hk is far superior to that fn. I owned the 509 and my striker broke in a week, and the trigger was even worse then an hk lol

[@oneangrygoy]

Have watch yet, but its HK.

[@JR15A2]

I own both and agree the USP is most certainly the higher quality firearm and more deserving of its overinflated MSRP. However, the feature of the FNX-45T I found most offensive was the CCP optic. I could hear the screams of many hungry children and elderly organ donors every time it came into view. How's a brother gonna put that on a $1k+ pistol and expect us to keep a straight face for 18:41? Come on now.

[@jdb0272]

The ups is all metal, of course the hp will have less play when twisted. Duh

[@JohnDoe14783]

Hks have polymer (plastic) frames. Hk just has better materials for their pistols

[@TheRainmanisback]

That is not a design problem!

[@KathyHarris-v5u]

You added that safety on the usp it comes in right handed

[@johnnygungame9612]

No modifications… it’s a USP Expert it’s the only variant that comes with an ambidextrous safety, one paddle on both sides❤

[@jameshammond2079]

My mark 23 kicks ass

[@prepper1013]

Jonny Gun Game

[@MatteoFitness]

This should sell usps

[@erictrippe2778]

You had better give me that FNX since it is such a piece of junk...

[@sissydreams7494]

You can have it. I mean this respectfully, gp ahead and spend $1,300 on an inferior weapon. Yes, the FN has tacticool features, but hold it in your hands and you will see that it isn't worth the prices of admission. Please, don't just buy this weapon because it holds 3 more rounds. Objectively compare them. The HK is built SO MUCH better!

[@erictrippe2778]

@@sissydreams7494 I have the non-threaded version and love it.

[@KathyHarris-v5u]

Ahhh yes from our would be operators🙄

[@KathyHarris-v5u]

Tell that to the u s military

[@michaelboldyga6239]

This guy is full of baloney . H&K fan boy , that's all .

[@richwhippersnapper]

HK is definitely the better gun. FNX is highly overrated and overpriced in my opinion.

[@Rafe0522]

Thank your Johnny you are the best

[@Icejones00]

So buy a fn gotcha 🫡