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[@Skipped__]

Fun fact about police horses, they have been specifically bred to be signifficantly less intelligent than regular horses so that they don't shy at gunfire. A truly cursed existence.

[@DaughterOfDrakes]

christ

[@nabillun]

Jesus 😂

[@Gods-Shepherds]

Common practice across history. Cavalry horses weren't ever picked because they were smart.

[@Ifeno]

It's the same with race and performance horses. Jumping over obstacles for no reason goes against the horse's natural instincts. In practice, it requires to risk serious injury for no real reason, so they're bred to be stupid to make it easier to teach them to ignore their survival instincts.

[@saturnusdevorans]

The Coder cost tweet is so crazy. People have really learned and gotten semi-competent at this game without understanding that the semicolon on cards means something and some cards don't have a cost even though the effect may have a downside. Really helped my impostor syndrome.

[@BigRob54300]

Yeah, I honestly didn't realize that the semicolon is what indicate what is considered as a cost or not. When watching the video, I thought the aromages would be consider as a "positive cost" but they have effects when life is gain. If aromage jasmine had an errata to have its effect be "Once per turn, you can gain 500 LP; draw 1 card", then that card would be insanely good for its archetype. It would be interesting if they would ever make a card like that.

[@hwanheekim1104]

Legitimately do not know how someone can play this game and not realize that pre-prep doesn’t have a fucking cost

[@hwanheekim1104]

@@BigRob54300I’m pretty sure there are some cards that don’t indicate cost with a semicolon, but you can just sort of tell if you read a lot of card effects

[@saturnusdevorans]

@@hwanheekim1104 pretty sure only pre-psct cards have the cost for effects not denoted by semicolons

[@tootsie_]

Its like those bits at the end of a couple of the twitter threads videos MBT made. Just 100 people being wrong.

[@lobsterbisque333]

The only thing I wish for Christmas is more Twitter Freax

[@mwagaha3343]

All I want for Christmas is freax

[@LordEgilYGO]

Aleks Le is so great man, he's done the "You are not a gamer" copypasta and it's so PEAK

[@NaldoNidoking]

They missed an extremely obvious card with a positive cost. The cost of summoning Blue-Eyes White Dragon is Batchesting.

[@owendawg1]

Redoer in the Distant Coder thread is so fucking funny because that's like...one of the few Xyz monsters that detach material as part of its effect, not as a cost. Just an insanely funny inclusion.

[@Roseknight888]

The look Jillian is gives you after the queludes video is peak

[@MrGshinobi]

33:14 the look of dissapointment in Jillian’s face when she looks at the screen is priceless man

[@clayxros576]

28:00 "Proves a flat, Biblical Earth" Well if you read the Bible, youd know it actually doesnt care what shape the world is. So...a flat earth categorically cant be. Also the firmament was gone since Noah. WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE?!

[@liamwhite3522]

The only people who read less of the text of their group than Yugioh players: Bible-thumping Christians.

[@hatster401]

i think the confusing thing on the coder tweet was that the card on the original tweet was pot of greed which does not have a cost so it fried people's brains

[@SkybladeSword]

It's wild, because the Pac-Man Secret Level was absolutely the best one not knowing it was an ad for a new game. It was just a really fun horror sci-fi short story.

[@DualEdgest]

The best/worst part of the Cash For Kids commutation? The judge was part of a blanket commuting of sentences for about 1500 prisoners who were let out on home confinement during covid. They didn't even check who was on the damned list before putting pen to paper.

[@RoofTopRenegade]

thats clearly some kinda college dorm or greek house situation. Let the kids figure out their own feng shui! they needed seating for 20 and they found a solution. ugly as hell, but the goal isnt aesthetic. room is a win. i could never live there.

[@DarkJusticeMetal]

If your court case is so controversial that it shows up on a Law and Order SUV episode, you don't deserve a pardon actually

[@burokkori8684]

There is another crazy qoute from that same woman in 2:30 "As Christans we are supposed to lay down our lives if nessesary and love our neighbour, I think he was actually trying to love his neighbours and unfortunately it resulted in another individual's dealth. But that is an amazing young man in my view."

[@techmarinemartelus257]

I heard genex instead of gen x and was really confused for a second

[@nastykactus7993]

I gotta keep it real and say the angrier people get about Astro Bot the funnier it winning GOTY is. Anyways the answer is actually Metaphor and not Balatro

[@FYImonkeyboy]

Did nobody mention Sauravis in Coder's thread? Return to hand for cost is generally negative in concept, turning field presence into hand presence, but in Sauravis' case it's now a hand trap so it's pretty much all positive in practice.

[@dullahaut329]

Goddammit As someone who is trying to study astronomy for real, people who see a planisphere and think it proves anything about a flat earth are something else man

[@zekromfury]

It's cool that the guy dems were telling us to vote for for three and a half years pardoned a guy who sent kids to prison for profit and got convicted for it purely because he was able to. surely they will learn from this and maybe start being more critical of their party and seek to make positive change in it right

[@BigStarEyes]

No offense, but the frat house is such a comfy vibe, i love it

[@BOGOworms4sale]

No offense? Lol this is an incredibly defensible and mundane opinion

[@dotv2359]

Waiter! Oh waiter! More Twitter Freax please!

[@andrewh2130]

Quaalude guy looks like he could be daddy mbt

[@beverlyshields2399]

8:17 room is peak. P1P1 Seat 4. Lots of seating, or everyone gets their own couch.

[@Vulzie]

jesus christ the couches house has a cigarette(?) christmas tree

[@Flygoniaks]

[25:30] What I love about all these AI-generated video ideas for MBT's channel is that EVERY SINGLE ONE is from a different series but transitions into Twitter Thread halfway through.

[@afeathereddinosaur]

This is the *F r e a k y* Inside Out 2 song Fr though, Mr. Beetee didnt even get to my favorite line (Hi I'm freaky Ennui, time to get freaky deeky) OR listen to the EPIC guitar solo and rapping from the freaky wizard.

[@HydrochloricAcid16]

"time to get freaky deeky" Who does she think she is? She is not Negan!

[@fameshark]

Daigusto Gulldos and Caam are most likely the closest we can get to positive cost. Unlike Avarice, they DO shuffle the cards back for cost, and not for effect. The only stipulation here is whether or not putting resources back can be considered a positive cost. I’ve won games I shouldnt have by putting things back, like copies of cards that were in the GY to then tutor them, but I guess you could argue that it’s not as apparent of a positive as LP gain would be

[@SweatyFujoshi]

an easy way to think of them as not a positive is that you cant pay for them without something else being true first. you could always pay a cards cost if it were "gain LP", outside of some very silly and specific scenarios. the same would be true if the cost were to draw cards. if your opponent flipped macro on you and you did not have stuff in the grave, the negative side of these costs becomes really apparent.

[@nicks8060]

Definitely a college house, brings back memories. Sometimes you just have a billion people over to play split screen Halo, that's just life.

[@JadeHex]

Man I could've gone on living a long fruitful live not knowing Ben Brode shilled for catly and was just a silly card game lumberjack.

[@tweekin7out]

regarding the coder thread, the only card i can think of with a "beneficial" cost that doesn't involve sending from deck to grave is something like cosmic blazar, which temporarily banishes itself for cost, making it difficult to interact with and generally get rid of. the entire concept of old-school chain beat existed around cards like wind-up rabbit and thunderbird banishing themselves for effect, so you can argue that this cost is "beneficial" if an entire deck revolved around it.

[@violetto3219]

but the point is for cards whose cost you pay is directly and unambiguously an advantage, not that they can be useful to you

[@SolarFlamer64]

Isn't the card with a positive cost just Mirrorjade, the Iceblade Dragon? oh no! I have to send to my GY, a card from my extra that needs to... go to the gy to activate? That's insane! anyways let me extend and break your board at the same time. Before the Bystial lubellion allowing for a line that gets albion in the gy without this, you would usually use MJ just to send Albion, and banish an aluber or something, and that was a good play.

[@KokoPowdery]

@@SolarFlamer64 The whole question from Coder is about specifically the game mechanic of cost. It's also specifically not about costs that end up as a positive for your gameplan cause of the effects they enable, but about if there is a card whose cost is directly, without a second step involved, gains you an advantage in something like card economy or life points. Mirrorjade's send from ED to GY is card economy neutral by itself, so not the answer he was looking for

[@SergeantTittyfist]

​@@SolarFlamer64 Sending from the extra deck to GY is pretty much just sending from deck to GY.

[@SolarFlamer64]

@@KokoPowdery How is sending a card to the gy from extra neutral. you can negate the card all you like, an additional card got added to the rotation regardless, it's a positive effect,, the idea that the gy doesn't count for card advantage feels very outdated, we call the gy a second hand for a reason. By this logic, Painful choice is a -1. Albion the Shrouded Dragon is a foolish burial/burial goods for cost as well; but surely sending a card to the gy and replacing itself doesn't generate advantage.

[@tjwtf28]

anyone know what MBT was on about at like 33:00 about code execution on grok by exploiting usernames? Google is dead so I'm getting no search results

[@bageltime8983]

ALEX LE MY GOAT!!!

[@frozenalpha6942]

The Quaaludes guy looks like an old MBT

[@flamewizard9022]

29:53 for a second, I thought he was talking about the archetype

[@VanessaVersus]

if there's one thing I've learned over the years it's that you should never underestimate joe biden's ability to do the worst possible thing at all times

[@esrohm6460]

you know trying to expand coders question to mtg i think that objectively positive cost that doesn't need your deck to be specifically build regardless of how trivial it is to fulfill does not exist in card games PERIOD. and i would love to be proven wrong. i'm pretty sure pokemon also doesn't have that because costs in general are basically just discard or detach energy

[@riverbirch2631]

I’ve been giving it thought and I’ve come up with two answers for magic, the untap symbol which is always paired with a mana cost so at best it’s both a positive and a negative and a planeswalkers uptick is a beneficial cost

[@esrohm6460]

@@riverbirch2631 untapp i don't think counts as within the vacuum of that card is it a downside to limit how often you can activate it. but yeah i totally forgot planswalker being a cost to gain loyalty

[@dotv2359]

The couch setup goes hard for Halo 2 LAN play.

[@sangdrako]

We're so over

[@bombatwombat3680]

Pot of Prosperity has a positive cost as long as you're playing exactly Nemleria

[@GwynoftheMist]

The next best "cost" would probably be Altergeist Silquitous bouncing a Spell/Trap or monster as cost so those cards can dodge removal, negation, etc

[@liamwhite3522]

17:17 Simple answer: because it's a cost? The reason there are no cards with strictly positive costs is because they are costs. Like, linguistically a cost is what needs to be paid in order to get something. You are not paying shit by gaining anything. From a gameplay perspective, the whole point of a card having a cost is that if you cannot pay that cost, you cannot activate the effect. If the cost is positive, there is no situation (for something like life gain) or exactly 1 situation (for card draw) where you couldn't pay that cost, so then why have it be a cost??

[@SweatyFujoshi]

because a cost means something specific in yugioh and your points about linguistics and gameplay mean nothing. there are in fact examples of this in other card games, though the design space is always pretty small and limited. mtg has braid of fire, where the only effect of the card is to make you pay an increasingly larger positive cost

[@SweatyFujoshi]

@@williamfalls cards in deck functionally do not exist until they are interacted with. cards in hand DO exist, they directly mean something. this is the basis of card advantage. as in, the way old articles people were writing about mtg explaining the very basic barebones concept. a discard is much much much much worse than a mill from deck. his rules for the question he asked make sense and he was correct to set them

[@animemusic1334]

@@williamfalls bro when was the last time you played the game genuinely what are you yapping about. SEND FROM DECK IS INFINITELY BETTEER THAN A DISCARD

[@jamessewake8285]

Maugis shuffles 3 for cost, is a pretty good one for Coder’s as mentioned by the chat

[@mickjaegar2379]

one must imagine coder happy

[@esmo9728]

the room comments made my blood boil, the 2nd tv fine thats weird, but the room n coachs cmon man, youve never seen an NBA finals, a superbowl, a stanely cup finals, a world series game and ragedy coach comment, from a place of privilage

[@haydenbeck3984]

Can you then explain how the interaction works if none of those are considered costs? You need to do them to get the second effect, meaning cost effect wise that is how it works. I’d be interested to see what you mean

[@animemusic1334]

a cost is not apart of the effect, theres usually a semi colon seperating the cost and the effect

[@Tiaraments]

Cost is indicated by a semicolon, and cannot be interacted with. ie if you tried to Ash a card that read "Draw 1; Draw 1", the opponent would draw 1, then Ash would go on as CL2. However if the card instead read "Draw 1: Draw 1", you could activate Ash as CL2 immediately and prevent both draws

[@randomshit6539]

Dude I stay far away from twitter for a reason, but the grok thing almost made me sign up (wdym execute code, like is there not a single competent programmer left on that platform???)

[@KokoPowdery]

On the one hand it's crazy to me how many people apparently don't know what a cost is, but also I feel like using Pot of Greed as a picture to go along with that tweet was a really bad choice cause it probably made people think of things that end up making you go positive in card economy

[@VaneHartless473]

OK but targeting can be a cost like on avarice. If you can't pay it or the target is sufficiently affected (usually by moving it elsewhere) the effect doesn't resolve because the cost wasn't met. regardless it's a negligible cost not a positive cost so it still isn't what he asked.

[@ThePartyAnimalia]

Targeting is never cost, its an activation requirement. Its why cards like rollback that ignore costs still have to target

[@VaneHartless473]

@ThePartyAnimalia I thought Psct has cost before a semicolon and activation requirements before a colon. also usually the card makes you target, instead of activating when you target

[@ThePartyAnimalia]

@@VaneHartless473 I mightve misspoke there, Text before the semicolon " ; " but after the colon, describes anything that happens when that card or effect is activated (such as costs and targeting). You pay costs and do any targeting when the card is activated, but they arent the same.

[@morecrafty247]

What about Prufinesse, the Tactical Trapper? it banished from the deck for cost

[@Spid3yTCG]

In defense of the horse cops, maybe they shouldn’t exist in the cities, but I live out in Oklahoma so here in the middle of nowhere they do have a purpose

[@ionsai3114]

You did not need to tell us that you were a Journey fan, Mr. bisexual Theater Kid

[@jordaneworley]

Cosmic blazer banishes AND returns itself for cost. Does that count? Lol

[@evandouville8935]

The cost thread made me actively lose braincells. Jesus christ. Anyway if a card let you draw for cost that shit would be BROKEN. It could KILL YOU and still be busted.

[@aethea_music]

i know coder said "no send from deck to grave" but dude Evil Eyes Unleashed prolly has the most stupid cost ever, in basically just foolishing 2 cards from your deck for free AND adding a card to hand after that. If that's not a positive cost, then i don't know

[@itsjayn4538]

wait ... what is with mirrorjade now? isnt the ED send to GY a cost? I know Coder wouldnt count that because he said no send to GY...

[@YashaSkaven]

Hell yeah rats

[@__-be1gk]

For some reason I thought Bystials banished for cost, but I guess it was just my own imagination of possible future power creep convincing me it was already here Bro no fucking way those ben brode posts are real, this is jack black abandoning KG all over again IN THE SAME YEAR

[@ieuanx361]

it thinks ten minute testing is a top ten list

[@Swagmansuperguy]

Maybe distant coder should have put what a cost is in the tweet

[@YashaSkaven]

Especially given the average coder fans intelligence being in the dumpster lmao

[@MrLegion501st]

The positive cost part just show you how braindead is the average yugioh player that still to this day, still cannot tell the difference between cost/requirement/effect.

[@tootsie_]

Awww cmon you can't dunk on Aleks Le that's my pookie bear thats Luke Sandblast dude cmonnnn be nice to him

[@CallMePiwo]

Doesn't quasar dragon banish itself for cost? I mean, not what coder was looking for, but I think this is a positive cost bc it makes this monster a nightmare to deal with.

[@joshmcb6042]

I love you

[@electronsympathy]

I don't know Yugioh well, so forgive me if I'm adding to the pile of dumb on the "Positive Cost" thing. What about Tainted of the Tistina, or Kaijus, and similar tribute effects or that matter? As far as I can tell, the tributes of a Tribute Summon are a Cost, and tributing your opponent's stuff instead of your own seems like a pretty positive effect for a Cost.

[@KokoPowdery]

The tribute parts of cards like the Kaijus are not a cost but a summoning condition, just like tributing a monster to tribute summon a monster with your normal would be. A cost is specifically for an activated effect, which will start a chain, whereas tributing your opponent's monster to summon a Kaiju does not. That's also why you can tribute a monster that's unaffected by other cards's effects with a Kaiju, cause it's not an effect that's tributing away but a game mechanic

[@JimWolfie]

Is lava golem a cost? Maybe I also don't understand ygo terms as well as I thought, so if trinuting 2 monsters your opponents control doesn't count that's fair Like it's nebulous as fuck whether it counts as pure advantage cause you're left staring at a 3k beater and technically there's a further trade off of losing your normal summon so it's probably not as juicy as coder wants

[@JimWolfie]

Also if we're allowed to consider the context of a deck then I'm gonna also maybe suggest the dark world field spell searcher that shoves itself to be fuel for gates. Like it's obviously not what coder wants but coder wanted something absolutely insane and not printable by Konami Like this one is also not strict upsisde you're still -1 to +1 vs coders want of a +1 to +1 but with the gy being so important to gates specifically I'm willing to overlook how insane of an ask coder's thing is

[@benpaul7923]

does "one day of peace" count as a card with a positive cost?

[@YeahTheDuckweed]

One day of peace does not have a cost

[@bombatwombat3680]

Joseph knows about Halimede???????????????????????

[@MrPrettyInPinkTV]

Mbt clearly hasn’t met normal college males the house was very normal

[@Devil935]

Does snatch and steal count as positive cost?

[@cwovictor3281]

Snatch Steal does not have a cost.

[@thedegenerate7734]

What is a cost im so lost

[@ryanjones_rheios]

I mean, that's the joke from the SNL guy isn't it? Like the Sally hates person is just not getting that its a bit? Unless the indication is that even trying to do the bit in the modern world is cringie, in which case, more fair.

[@ConArroz9]

burst

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

I don't get how AI is both this super doomsday device which will ruin everyone's lives through out pacing "creatives" but also is so bad that its laughable.

[@ryanjones_rheios]

Conceptually I think because its cheap for executes (not in general to society but to their bottom line) and they'll weight that as more important and so increasingly utilize it at the cost of originality or actual creativity, since they don't think quality is a key factor in large-scale monetary sales. And even when it does become an issue they can just right off the losses, like when they make and scrap huge budgeted movies for the tax benefits. They might still employee some creative people to patch over its flaws, like in the Coke commercial, but because its a "smaller" job they'll also probably try and use it as leverage to further cut costs (i.e. pay) there too.

[@pdragon619]

It looks laughably bad RIGHT NOW. People who are worried about the negative impacts of AI on the entertainment and tech industries are not talking about them at their current level. Eventually AI WILL get good enough that it will start to look indistinguishable to most people, or more importantly, it will look "good enough" that executives will be willing to use it if it means getting to cut a couple hundred artists' salaries, and the only tradeoff is a drop in quality that they don't actually care about, so long as the drop in quality isn't big enough to make people outright not consume the product. You're confused because you're not looking at the issue long term. AI art has only really been around in the public conscience for what? 3 or 4 years now? Think of just how much it has advanced in that time. Think of how far it's going to advance in another 5 years. The video game industry is already seeing massive layoffs and studio closures what seems like every week, do you see how giving higher ups a tool that does the work of like 10 artists at once could worsen that problem?

[@eden3669]

now that you mention it, it unironically kinda reminds me of the contradiction right-wingers have, where anyone they hate has to simultaneously be going to destroy Western Society™ but also be Lesser and thus weaker there Is somewhat of a difference though, since AI could maybe cause some problems, but talking about it works best if you treat it as completely boring and mundane, like "yeah yeah, companies make their things worse in the name of profits, what else is new" kind of thing but yeah when people get all moral-outragey over it it does really feel kind of absurd though

[@eden3669]

now that you mention it, it unironically kinda reminds me of the contradiction right-wingers have, where anyone they hate has to simultaneously be going to destroy Western Society™ but also be Lesser and thus weaker there Is somewhat of a difference though, since AI could maybe cause some problems, but it works best if you treated as completely boring and mundane, like "yeah yeah, things get worse in the name of profits, what else is new" when people get all moral-outragey over it it does really feel kind of absurd though, yeah edit: also the "it looks bad Right Now but in the future it could become indistinguishable!!" stuff in the other replies feels even More like the stuff righties say like . wow . thing viewed as inhuman, "oh no it could become indistinguishable from Real Humans in the future!! theres gonna be -degenerates- AI art hidden among us!!" its really . wew yeah

[@raze667]

The whole "cost" bit is more indicative of how badly designed YGO cards are. "cost" is this mysterious and nebulous concept that is ill understood by the players. Magic is very clear; You have a : you have a cost. That's it. About the last post... well he utterly gutted it last time and put a pawn in control of it. Shit sucks man. If you were or are a postmen who had to endure that shit, my heart goes out to you.

[@GenesisAkaG]

The whole "cost" bit is more indicative of how bad YGO players are. "cost" is not a mysterious and nebulous concept it is very clear: You have a ; you have a cost. That's it.

[@raze667]

@@GenesisAkaG Except when that cost is "choose two creatures" or some shit. Which apparently isn't a cost? even though there's a ":". or something. YGO is fucking weird man. And for the record I was being flippant in the mysterious and nebulous concept bit.

[@GenesisAkaG]

​@@raze667 I think problem solving card text formatting is (activation condition) : (cost/things that happen as you put the effect on the chain, like targeting) ; (effect) "Choose X" is targeting, which has a similar quirk where there are cards that don't "target" at effect declaration, but do something to a chosen card at resolution. Also didn't mean to be mean, the opportunity to do the "just read the card" bit just presented itself. Dark Worlds + all the cards that discard for cost sure left me a confused child.

[@Tiaraments]

@@raze667 ":" isn't a cost, it's a condition for the card to resolve, which is nitpicking but important nonetheless

[@raze667]

@@Tiaraments in MTG : denotes a cost. I guess it's different in YGO. really... odd... but thanks for clarifying.

[@lyri4655]

How is targeting before a semicolon not a cost?

[@Raisonic]

Technically speaking, the text before the semicolon only designates “what you do upon activation, before the actual effect”. Most of the time, what that will be is a cost. But “targeting” - via rulings and certain official communications like blogposts - is considered something separate from a cost (for example an official blogpost said “Anything that happens WHEN YOU ACTIVATE a card {…} includes things like costs and targeting”, which distinguishes targeting as something that is separate from a cost). This is one of those things that should have been made clear in the official rule book, but never has been. As is the case with many things in this game.

[@zekromfury]

Also wish people didn't sensationalize hating ai so much tbh. Like every criticism of it I see is either just like factually incorrect, irrelevant, indirectly harmful to people trying to make non-AI art, or misleading (energy costs in particular is a big one; the primary energy consumption of AI is in training it, and the energy required to generate things with AI is comparable to using a computer to do the same - something you are doing right now, and something which is using quite a bit more net energy than AI is worldwide). Like yeah it definitely doesn't look _good_ (and neither do a lot of the things AI techbros do with it, they're just as annoying as the people being stupid about it lol) but art's worth isn't just determined by its aesthetics, especially in the realm of video games!!

[@TylerW44]

Cost has no meaning

[@marchmelloow]

Does MBT not know the difference between self defense and assassination? It's pretty understandably why someone would be happy that the former is found not guilty and unset over the latter being praised.

[@lookingupnumber1864]

Yea it does come off putting just say white guy killed black without the contexts.

[@Xenonfuji]

The only games I feel actually deserved goty were astrobot and metaphor. Balatro is just number go up, FF7R is a remake, elden ring is dlc not a game, I don't even remember what else got nominated

[@YeahTheDuckweed]

Did helldivers just die or what

[@animemusic1334]

calling balatro number go up should genuinely prevent you from voting.

[@Xenonfuji]

@@animemusic1334 I have about 20 hours in balatro. The game is mindless number go up

[@SapphicSara]

Pretty clear that yugioh is worded badly if this many entrenched players do not understand cost. It means cost is a failed mechanic or failed to be explained. It's a Konami problem not a player problem.