Hobby Cheating 199 - How to Paint Lenses & Goggles

[@raringolive681]

Holy crap. I tried this and a technique I thought was out of my grasp is right there on the table. It's simple and takes about 10 minutes. Mind blown!

[@VinceVenturella]

Awesome, happy to help. ;)

[@TheRunesmythe]

I always find it fascinating that even though, academically, I know that these are opaque colors laid down on a solid surface once that little specular highlight of white is added my eyes and therefore my mind perceive as a now translucent surface. Its one of those weird yet amazing optical illusions that only happens when everything aligns correctly and that last little touch is added; another one (at least for me) is when a dark line is added under some "battle damage" (read: stippled paint or lines representing scratches) and suddenly, even though I consciously know its still two dimensional, it seems like its now completely realized in all three dimensions and if you ran finger over it you'd expect to be able to actually *feel* the damage.

[@VinceVenturella]

Yep, it's stuff like this that always makes me smile when you can trick your own eyes right after you paint something. :)

[@losmiercoles]

Until now I followed a tutorial that placed a second white line / dot where the light goes out and it looked kinda weird. Thank you for not just showing but explaining, it's one of the biggest strengths of your channel. Gonna try this out on some models now!

[@VinceVenturella]

Excellent, happy to help as always. and I always want to try to explain everything and make sure that people understand not just the how, but the why. :)

[@SvenEnterlein]

For some reason I love the videos with "paper theory" in the beginning. Always so informative!

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you, always happy to help. :)

[@docbun]

Just when I was thinking of how to improve the crystals on the head of my Spellweaver... Thanks! Perfect timing, Vince.

[@VinceVenturella]

Awesome, happy to help as always. :)

[@diverspudph]

Great tip on using white to emphasize the dark border around the lens! Learned something new again from you!

[@VinceVenturella]

Excellent, happy to help as always. :)

[@Prickles2001]

What a legend you are. Love your videos mate. Super appreciated!

[@ballisticsausage]

Eyes in the dark, one moon circles... I'm suddenly getting flashbacks of Star Trek TNG and something to do with binary stars, sleeplessness and hydrogen

[@VinceVenturella]

You are correct. ;)

[@RickyLiveOG]

I can't decide which episode was worse, that one or VOY:S2 Threshold.

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[@samprastherabbit]

@@VinceVenturella You big damn hero- I come for the painting, but stay for the nerd culture references.

[@taylorroberto1309]

Pro trick: watch series at kaldroStream. I've been using them for watching loads of movies lately.

[@M0U53B41T]

I have to say, my goggles/lenses have gotten a LOT more lazy since gem paints came out - and I discovered the Ghost tints. I pretty much just do dark iron up to silver, let it dry then slap on translucent gem/ghost tint colour. Light does the rest really.

[@VinceVenturella]

I get it, nothing wrong with that, this is for the times you want to go to that distance.

[@M0U53B41T]

@@VinceVenturella Oh yeah man I took notes! Lol esp for where to put what, for some reason I always forget when I actually go to paint them

[@Mikey__R]

5:13 EXTREME CLOSEUP!!!! WOAAAAH!!! Party on Vince. Party on Garth.

[@Mikey__R]

Btw, he looks like he's going to throw an apple at someone, maybe his teacher.

[@Mikey__R]

Maybe The Miniatures Rob is his teacher?

[@VinceVenturella]

He does kind of have this throw an apple look, that's funny. And glad the reference landed. :)

[@benjaminsimone5097]

So firstly love the videos but I'm sickened by how well this works..... great video as always.

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you, and happy to help as always. :)

[@benjaminsimone5097]

@@VinceVenturella do you have any tips for NMM over an irregular surface? I've hit a wall in my head and can NOT get it to miniature.

[@mattcappelli5822]

I really need the brush control. I paint mostly space marines and I can get one lens done to an acceptable standard but even when I flip the mini over to get the other one, I usually make a slight change in the angle or something so it doesn't look great.

[@VinceVenturella]

That other eye is always challenging. It's just a practice, practice, practice thing.

[@surfacetension4471]

Thanks for the tutorial as always. One thing that just occurred to me as I watched this was that I always paint my space marine lenses symmetrically, which would be as though the light was coming from a different direction in each case. It generally looks ok to me... artistic licence I guess?

[@VinceVenturella]

Sure, it just represents light coming directly from above. It's a little different as space marine lenses are on the side of their helmets and angled so it's still correct under a zenithal light.

[@Steve_Keen]

That TNG episode... "WHERE ARE YOUUUU?". Nice reference.

[@VinceVenturella]

Always glad when people catch the references. :)

[@necaacen]

always a pleasure

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you, much appreciated. :)

[@LogicalCake]

Off topic, but what paper do you use for your wet pallet? I've been having issues with paint drying on the pallet with wax paper.

[@bentosan]

Which country do you live in? Here in Australia glad bakers paper is the goto

[@VinceVenturella]

In this case, I am using the paper supplied with the Redgrass palette. I really like it, it seems to handle the paint just right.

[@add2ndedition663]

Excellent effect. I am having trouble with eyes. The space is so small and I can never seem to get the colours to stay put where I want them.

[@VinceVenturella]

It's a matter of a sharp brush and flow aid with the extra water wicked off. (and of course, lots of deliberate practice. :) )

[@russwarhammergateway152]

Great video Vince! This works well for outward curved lenses because the light hits at the top and goes through the but that sticks out. How would it work for flat lenses like Admech or Dwarfs tend to use?

[@VinceVenturella]

IN general, you can use the same techniques. You may want to make the lines a little more straight and pronounced instead of curved reflection lights, but in general, the light will pass through all the same.

[@jasonrhome710]

What excellent timing...

[@VinceVenturella]

Always happy when the videos align with a project.

[@f33b58]

How do you approach regular glasses/goggles, with see through lenses? Or sunglasses with maybe a little tinting?

[@VinceVenturella]

Basically the same way, but with a little blue grey instead of the red. but the same color transition.

[@f33b58]

@@VinceVenturella ok thanks!!! I had always thought you'd want to see the facial features through the glasses, but it always looked real bad.... I will try just making it a solid color without the facial features "behind" the glasses.

[@NamonosWeis]

I know it's been a while since you posted this video, but how would you represent eyes behind the goggles? I have a goblin model where the art shows his eyes as little white streaks behind his goggles, would you just use white/ivory over top of the lens? Thanks!

[@VinceVenturella]

This is a very tough effect, in general my advice would be - don't do that. So the very complicated answer is you paint the eyes, then you paint the color and transition transparently over the top so it looks like they are beneath the transluscent glass, you need the reflection shine and light catch and so on.

[@NamonosWeis]

@@VinceVenturella Thank you so much!

[@Erikjust]

Question both about bones I am in the midst of painting a flesh eater courts and after that i will start painting The Avatar of Taïpahn On both the Terrorgheist Zombie Dragon have several pieces of bones, i wanted to hear if you had any good ways of painting old and weathered bones? I was thinking that perhaps your "how to shadow bones" video might be of use, but i don´t know. Then there is The Avatar of Taïpahn her snake body and several of her horns have a lot of bone plates on them, how would you go about making it looks if not old then at least weathered? I have seen alot of people go for the lots of thin lines look, when painting Tyranid scale, but i have seen just as many using the same effect as the shadowing bones (lots of washes over a layer of bone color).

[@VinceVenturella]

So my best advice is use more of a black/brown/yellow color throughout the bone. Bring the colors up and leave much less clean white. whether you use striations or smooth transitions won't matter much, it's more about making the color's more "dirty" throughout.

[@Erikjust]

@@VinceVenturella when you say less clean white are we talking colors like Vallejo model color Ivory or more like Vallejo game color Bonewhite??

[@VinceVenturella]

@@Erikjust Yes. (Basically both, things that mix yellow/brown into the white.)

[@piesandhiking4943]

OMG Vince, I finished up General Sorin from Imperial Assault this afternoon. One of the better models I've painted but his visor was a total shit show and I hated it. And now this. You legend!

[@VinceVenturella]

Excellent, happy to help as always. :)

[@milozdu1366]

Yay! Been looking forward to this one...

[@VinceVenturella]

Excellent, happy to help as always. :)

[@triruns]

Since this method so effectively mimics the shine of the lens, would you recommend coating with gloss varnish or leaving them matte?

[@VinceVenturella]

In general, you want it to be quite matte. the gloss will only create light points that conflict with the light point you create.

[@michaelinOZ]

New light and camera set up? Much lighter and crispier!

[@VinceVenturella]

Yep and glad to hear it's working for you. :)

[@michaelinOZ]

@@VinceVenturella Yeah. It's A LOT better! :-)

[@rossomachin]

Useful as always!

[@VinceVenturella]

Thank you, happy to help as always. :)

[@witlessfop36]

Oh, I thought you meant wearing goggles for painting! 😂 Although my Optivisor has been very useful.

[@VinceVenturella]

Well, that works to, but I wouldn't recommend painting those goggles. ;)

[@batman9592]

I thumbed up because of Simpsons reference.

[@VinceVenturella]

I'll take it. :)

[@bethanygraham427]

I would have preferred if you had done both lenses on the paper as I can never work out where to put the dots.

[@VinceVenturella]

Bascially, just think where is the light shining from and make it as close to that as possible. , in general, the dots should either be at 10 or 2 o'clock in most lighting situations. Hope that helps. ;)

[@diverspudph]

@@VinceVenturella What about the Space Marine eyes? They're not both round and symmetrical. Where would you "dot" and put darker shading on the right lens?