Hobby Lobby - The Controversial History

[@The-Story-Assassin]

When you walk in you see the sign that says, “All furniture ALWAYS 30% off”. If it’s always 30% off, then it’s NEVER 30% off! That’s the normal price!

[@100percentSNAFU]

Lol, that's a great point.

[@3rdEyeWide]

Maybe they mean it's 30% off the RRP (Recommended Retail Price), the price the manufacturer believes a retailer should be selling a product for?

[@thestop-motionstudios7594]

We just adjust the marked price so the 30% off price changes, amazon also increase prices by a few dollars on stuff you might like and then say it’s ”5% off”

[@theactingfantasy]

Does anyone even buy furniture from Hobby Lobby?

[@thestop-motionstudios7594]

@@theactingfantasy yes every day, we sell probably more furniture than Christmas trees

[@ETibbs11]

When I worked at Michaels, Sundays were our busiest days... because a Hobby Lobby was right across the street for us. xD

[@pastorpeteonthestreet3112]

Hobby Lobby honors Jesus Christ.. The way it should be.

[@LividCreature]

@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 Jesus didn’t like profits?

[@iiRockkSkiinies]

@@LividCreature what you mean? The profits are the idiots giving their “10% salary and donations” every Sunday lol.

[@pastorpeteonthestreet3112]

It is LOVE of money that is the root of all kinds of evil (1 Tim 6). Make piles of money and give it all away. That is what I did . Are you saved?

[@villageidiot3763]

@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 nah

[@Neckrollios18]

I always thought the biggest controversy with Hobby Lobby was that no matter where you are it feels like you need to drive an hour to get to one.

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

Or that they put all the good stuff in that back so you have to walk past all the stuff you don't want

[@Clay3613]

I live less than a mile from one, great since I need paint pens often.

[@AarmOZ84]

I live two blocks away from one.

[@safetysheep5508]

I live like 5 minutes away from one

[@blueyedwonder8747]

There's 2 within 20 minutes of my house, and a 3rd within 40 minutes...

[@KyleKahotek]

I worked at Hobby Lobby for a second job just after they reopened after the shutdown. They sold a TON of fabric and material for masks. Also, a large chunk of customers were Etsy business owners. Could be some truth to their "essential" claims but idk, i just wanted to make a little extra scratch.

[@jacobh674]

I don’t think it should be around what they sell. It’s essential because the people who work there need to be able to eat and pay rent.

[@WolfStrife]

During the shutdown, I had to quickly get a job at a grocery store. As soon as they reopened I was back at it again. And God we sold so much fabric!

[@marksanford8237]

Some folks really need to learn what "essential" means.

[@1995marixsa]

um fabric can be delivered home just saying. They have no explanation for their actions

[@gano7297]

Joanne did the same exact thing. Your prejudice is showing

[@Taskandpurpose]

I binge watched all of Company Mans videos now what do I do with my life?

[@harpuavids]

Watch them all twenty more times. They're that good.

[@FreemanLegend]

wait for more

[@SadSadSadSquishSquishSquish]

Start your own business from scratch, hell I’ll even join you.

[@ELDELD]

Go out there and show this world thing or two!

[@michaelkeller5927]

@@SadSadSadSquishSquishSquish and if it goes through hard times, your company will be featured on this channel lol

[@28ebdh3udnav]

We're still waiting for it.... *KZbin - Why They're Hated*

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

You really want Mama Susan to crucify this poor man don't you?

[@justicicle9673]

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[@charlieme5150]

_[comment deleted and reported to the FBI]_

[@zombieranger3410]

[comment deleted glory to Arstotska!]

[@ariannamyrie9520]

@@zombieranger3410 Country Proud!

[@CaveDweller-oi5cf]

As an employee at Hob Lob...the $17/hr is only if you're full time part time is $11. It's not my favorite place to work but I'll take the pay....please be kind to hobby lobby employees

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

The money that's going to you is not going to them. So that's cool

[@ale347baker]

The difference in pay is crazy. Its not right.

[@fartherdude5062]

@@ale347baker many companies do that to incentivize “moving up” in the company. A lot of part time workers are only in it for a short time and for large retailers like hobby lobby that can be a big liability since training employees is very expensive and risky.

[@ale347baker]

@@fartherdude5062 I understand, but I hear from part timers there that it is very hard/impossible for some of them to become full time, even after working there for years. I kind of think that they just want to pay little.

[@marcusegan8682]

@@ale347baker Depends on their store. I opened a new store, now been open two years. We've had all but two of the original people who opened moved to full time at some point. Even much of what we hired after opening has become full time. Most those that don't either 1- dont want full time 2- are students or 3- incompetent. Older store though most likely have more established crew. Just like any retail job there is only so many full time positions. If you want one, you need to wait til one opens (i.e. someone quits) and realize you are not the only person wanting full time.

[@WolfStrife]

I worked at Hobby Lobby for 2 years, great coworkers, poor management, very difficult getting fulltime and I believe the company does not appreciate its workers. Welcome to retail I guess.

[@andrewpytko4773]

I'd not much better in the work\ld of desk jobs and office space. Delivery services like UPS and FEDEX are where you should go.

[@AbyssalBob]

At my store we are constantly being pushed to be busy each second of your shift, my manager is constantly TRYING to get under my skin, saying shit to make me mad and when I do he stops and starts talking about "oh I was just pushing your button," every word that comes out of his mouth fills me with discontent, I give my best that I can while I'm working and I feel like he considers me inadequate even when they have me reorganize all the trees in the back of the stock room, or move boxes of wrapping paper to condense the stacks, and I'm the ONLY person who's been moving the trees and paper this year, anytime I call manager for anything he acts like it's a giant inconvenience even if it was in his interest, but when he calls me, if im not immediately there, it's "what took you so long"

[@WolfStrife]

@AbyssalBob I am sorry to hear this, I know how hard these trees and wrapping paper are. I would call HR and report to them what is happening. They might help, they might do nothing (remember, they get paid by the company too). Regardless, just take care of yourself, you come first, if you need to leave, find another job before quitting.

[@Eagle-cy4qj]

We studied the hobby lobby case while I was in college for my civil rights law class. It was the most complicated, interesting, and debated case. There was no simple answer because of the ACA, First Amendment, the concept of corporate personhood, and the public accomodations issues at play. There were some parts of the decision that were, in my view, correct and some that were disastrously wrong.

[@townfool4682]

i feel like corporate personhood was a mistake, it seems to be the source of a lot of ire for the american people

[@GlanderBrondurg]

@@townfool4682 Corporate personhood is also something that is incredibly hard to avoid in the legal situations where it matters. It isn't a new concept at all either, although corporate person "rights" is somewhat new. It may be a source of ire, but it boils down to the details of what it means to establish a corporation. Even the term "corporation" has as the root of the meaning of the word a "body" ("corpus") showing that was always the intention even when these kind of organizations were originally established in medieval times.

[@AaronOfMpls]

@@GlanderBrondurg Yup, partnerships and organizations that kinda act as one body are older than humanity, when you consider how many animals live in groups and make group decisions. Corporations themselves have long been "legal persons" in the sense that they can own property, can enter into contracts, and can sue and be sued. At the same time, they're not "natural persons" (since they're _organizations_ of actual people), so their rights and responsibilities are different. _How_ different is something reasonable people can disagree on in lots of ways.

[@arthurmingo]

The real issue with this cases is to what extent does corporate personhood reflect that of the owners and can a corporation be a stand-in for a person.

[@abnormallynormal8823]

@@arthurmingo the real real issue is when you have corporations acting as people and donating millions to political campaigns and lobbyists

[@truckingham3233]

Somewhat unrelated, but Hobby Lobby also does a lot of freight brokering. The company I work for does a lot of work for Tractor Supply and their have been times that a Tractor Supply load will come from a Hobby Lobby distribution center

[@mok.6085]

Considering Hobby Lobby’s polarizing reputation and how tricky it can be to track supply chains (especially to the uninitiated), this is a clever move. In more liberal areas, it might be a large reason why they’re able to survive there.

[@AdamJMeadTheOraclesClassroom]

Interesting! Seems like a strange offshoot. How/when did they get into that line?

[@nicks4802]

Not gonna lie, i frickin love TSC

[@Batmanyeets]

Makes sense I worked for tractor for awhile and I noticed we would get alot of things from random DCs that weren't our own and that would explain where they came from

[@linden6352]

Interesting! Having seen that they own quite a considerable amount of their own trucks (whereas most companies use other dedicated trucking companies), I was wondering how in the world they managed to fill that many trucks on just Hobby Lobby stuff. Makes a lot more sense now.

[@CrAzYcAsS0510]

I feel like business owners should have a say in what they wanna sell and how they want others to perceive them as a company overall, with that being said I don’t necessarily support their beliefs but as a consumer I have the right to just not shop there or work there.

[@RalseiSmokinAFatBlunt]

Yeah i agree. I personally don’t agree with them but nobody’s forcing me to shop there y’know🤷‍♂️

[@yeahright3145]

Yes, I agree but that employee’s response was unnecessary. They could have simply said “Sorry we don’t have any for sell”.

[@cycologist7069]

@@yeahright3145 Chances are, that employee was fired. Obviously that individual employee was (probably still is) racist.

[@davefromhomedepot7416]

@@yeahright3145 a company cant really tell an employee what to say lmao the dumbass said that all on his or hers own. Hopefully they got fired

[@yeahright3145]

@@cycologist7069 agreed.

[@livin4thelamb499]

As an employee of Hobby Lobby (I worked a year on register and over a year in the frame shop), I have to say I'm impressed with your video. I thought you were very open and non-bias in your reporting. :-) Well done. I can confirm one thing about the pandemic and the employees getting paid. I was there when my store shut down for 2 months, and while we didn't get full pay, my manager personally called me to let me know I would be getting a smaller amount out of the store's emergency fund, which continued for those two months. Based on my personal experience, I'm happy to say that my time with Hobby Lobby was a good and much-needed respite from the horrible jobs/bosses I've had in the past. I know every location/manager is different, but working there with my supportive co-workers and pleasant customers healed a lot of the mental health struggles I had been having (those had gone on or years and were already on the slow upswing, but being at a low-pressure job I liked really boosted my needed reprieve). All this to say, thanks for making this video in a respectful way. Regardless of its controversies, the store as a place to shop and to work has been a huge comfort and blessing to me. I quit in less than two weeks because I'm moving, and honestly I am sad to leave.

[@dodsonbe360]

Christian values trickle down

[@racheli6733]

Thank you!

[@theodoresmith3353]

“Is the museum of the bible a way to secretly convert people to their faith?” What gave it away? The name of the museum?

[@Craxin01]

Should be renamed the museum of the easily scammed, as most of the so-called artifacts were 100% fake.

[@Bullboy_Adventures]

I wouldn't be surprised if they have an artifact like, the cross jesus was crucified in or something

[@Lexa_makes_art]

Same with the Creation Museum and The Ark Encounter. They were both very immersive and amazing experiences, but something told me they were really just catering to pre-existing Christians specifically, not the "unbelievers" that they want to convert.

[@Lexa_makes_art]

@@Bullboy_Adventures Christians have been faking Christian artifacts for centuries, like the Shepherds staff from the Nativity, Mary Magdalene's Skull, stuff like that!😂😂

[@Lexa_makes_art]

@@Bullboy_Adventures I forgot to mention that there are so many churches and monasteries that claim to have remains of Jesus' cross you could build a whole ass house with that much wood!!

[@nslouka90]

Kind of funny that one of Hobby Lobby’s greatest threats is Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones and the Last Ball of Yarn.

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

Somebody’s gonna deep fake a yarn ball over top of that other ball chasing Indy in that first movie! And it’ll be because of this comment! 😹

[@jonplaud]

@@angusmacfrankenstein7227 I hope so

[@dalethelander3781]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robertwest6350]

IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM... oh wait.....

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

Ironic that the filming was cancelled due to the you know what.

[@Dangic23]

Never been to a Hobby Lobby in my life. My hobby is eating, and they don't offer much of that there.

[@lpnp9477]

Um. I'm pretty sure they sell tasty glue

[@Dangic23]

@@lpnp9477 I'm sure they have candy bars. But I don't eat those.

[@lpnp9477]

@@Dangic23 never considered checking for candy. Man, could have saved myself from a sticky situation.

[@ninjatortise8958]

I mean odds are you got a grandma, or a weird aunt that could go there..

[@Dangic23]

@@ninjatortise8958 Nobody that I know of. Every place I lived in, Hobby Lobby seems to always be in a not so great area of town. Like old shopping centers.

[@jordynnjohnsrud9347]

My biggest problem working at Hobby Lobby is that they don’t use barcodes, yet expect you to memorize an entire page worth of ad prices. As a person with ADHD this is a total nightmare.

[@MoniMeka]

Oh, no ma'am! 😬

[@trevordoeshalloween5994]

that's why you have an ad in your register drawer

[@catzblu999]

Just wanted to say I really appreciate that you were willing to touch this bomb. You shouldn't have had to have a long disclaimer when your goal has always been to state the documented facts of a story but the internet is filled with people who will reach for the worst interpretation of a statement every time. This is my favorite channel on KZbin and has been for the last few years. This is coming from someone who mostly watched gaming and music videos and now suddenly an educational channel is his favorite. Thank you for not being afraid to discuss stories surrounding extremely touchy subjects so we can all be better informed about the history of a company.

[@horserocker13]

My thing is, everyone knows they are a religious company. If you know that and shop/ work there you need to be prepared for it having religious ties. Don’t give your money to them if you don’t like them. Same with any company

[@SM-nz9ff]

And on the flip side they have MANY staunch supporters because of their views. This being a predominantly Christian country and especially in the South where they are from. I personally have never shopped there but as an atheist if I ever need a bead or some shit then w/e I don't give a fuck I need the bead and that's that.

[@joerodgers3318]

so well said!

[@Epic_C]

That's the simplest solution. Unfortunately people, especially in the social media age, needs to be offended by something.

[@horserocker13]

@@SM-nz9ff I am atheist as well. But they sell really great fabric 😂

[@horserocker13]

@@joerodgers3318 thank you :)

[@samuelpayne2185]

This video couldn't have come out at a better time, a Hobby Lobby has just opened up in my town across from where I work, so this is quite interesting.

[@arusu1806]

During the Pandemic, I went to hobby lobby the most because I had nothing to do at home. It helped me with my depression and anxiety of being stuck home all day.

[@Thundertats]

Glad to hear you found something to get you through!

[@fosterck13]

Same here!!

[@dragonrapidmusic]

Good

[@ericwilliams626]

Depression correlates directly with creation. The more you create the less you are depressed. Think about it more.

[@Kittypop2003]

I got myself a felt sewing kit from hobby lobby and helped me through the pandemic. Plus I learn my love for sewing early on.

[@iamnothale]

How the hell did we went from selling art supplies to FULL ON stealing an ancient piece of history!?

[@abbush2921]

There's a little more to it , than that .

[@davidpalay361]

Next up: time to steal the Declaration of Independence

[@milantarika7219]

Lmfaoo

[@Alexs23743]

PLOT TWIST: Hobby Lobby is owned by a real-life version of Carmen Sandiego.

[@Tinkerbell403]

Except that Green is in it for his personal gain only

[@tyleryork840]

One thing to note. You stated they raised the minimum wage of all employees in 2020. That is partially true. Unfortunately, this $17 wage is for full time employees. Part time employees only make $11. Both part and full timers received a raise, thankfully. To the disdain of the part timers, the raise was biased heavily towards full timers. Part time was $10.45 before, and full time was $15 before. $0.55 raise vs $2 raise stings a bit.

[@JL-sm6cg]

THERE it is. I recall applying to work there and was stunned when they said all of that. It was $17 for full time, and I'd be working part time at $11. Needless to say, I didn't go any further.

[@thewhitewolf58]

Also you really have to fight alot in order to be a full time worker.

[@dalethelander3781]

@@thewhitewolf58 Ah! A pecking order. Always good for employee morale.

[@marcusegan8682]

@@thewhitewolf58 Nah, you just need to be competent and wait for someone to leave. Which is happening a lot at my local store.

[@CalebDavidGibson]

Yep! My mom was crushed by such a little raise despite her hard work

[@Lucid0000]

I understand the controversy with them staying open in the pandemic and open really quickly but tbh, them selling stuff for school could not be an understatement. They opened one near my area before the pandemic and it really made things easier. As a student studying architecture at my community college, the amount of times I went there for model supplies or pencils made them a godsend since they were nearby. Yes they weren’t completely essential as I’m sure many people could have ordered stuff on Amazon but juggling muitiple classes and having a store nearby that you know will have what you need freed up some space in my mind that would of went to planning ordering supplies at certain times to make sure I can complete parts or project by their due date. Just my experience however.

[@aunderiskerensky2304]

if hobby lobby had been closed this whole time i think i would have snapped for real. i bought SO MUCH FUCKING paint and taught myself over the last year. i would have never found this new skill and been able to nurture it if hobby lobby had been closed, and i'm a fucking pagan. never had issue with hobby lobby, not a damn one. they sell good shit at a good price.

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

Every business is essential. If somehow it's not it would then be inconsequential for them to stay open. Biggest scam on the world ever.

[@jamuraisack5503]

@@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass absolutely. If you're worried that the plague may be lurking in it, don't go in. You're right. The entire "essential" business and employee deal *is* a scam. If you have "critical" jobs, then those people will need their usual support. Their support will need their usual support, and so on. They bottlenecked everyone into large stores by closing small shops, but were worried about you getting a haircut.🙄

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

@@jamuraisack5503 I thought I had seen everything after living through nine eleven ( can't say it with numbers or get censored) this is the latest greatest.

[@jamuraisack5503]

@@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass aww now, don't forget about 1/6. It was totally as bad as 9/11. Totally. 🙄😑

[@shelcancook6731]

When I worked there, the part time was only $10 compared to the $16 an hr of the full time. I started as part time, was promised a full time position when they built a new store in our town. However when the new incoming manager arrived she hired mostly new people to fill the new full time positions. I got the shaft and was given only 11 hours a week even as a CSM (customer service manager). No insurance and 11 hours a week doesn't pay for anything. The manager did that to a few of us just to get us to quit so they wouldn't have to pay unemployment for firing us.

[@JamVar]

When you mentioned them resisting the business shutdowns, I was about to go looking for a photo I took of a local Hobby Lobby's COVID sign when they and a bunch of other stores closed in April last year. Next thing I know, 11:38...BAM the same picture's on screen! I totally forgot I uploaded it to my old Shutterstock Contributor account LOL I dunno why I find that so cool, but I just had to share; I distinctly remember the eerie feeling walking around a mostly shuttered plaza @ 8pm. Great video, as always btw!

[@salvadorvaldez2001]

Is it true one can make money from shutterstock?

[@JamVar]

@@salvadorvaldez2001 Yes, if you produce a massive amount of work consistently. I'm talking hundreds of photos a month, unless you get lucky and one image gets insanely popular. Long story short, if you're dedicated and know how to handle a camera, you can certainly make decent money, but it will take lots of work including shooting, transferring, editing, posting, and tagging. But, there are plenty of resources online to help out, as well.

[@lpnp9477]

Are you saying that's the photo you personally took? That's pretty cool if so

[@JamVar]

@@lpnp9477 Yup! I can actually peg it as the night of 21 April 2020 at 7:56 P.M. Took it with a Nikon D5100. Mental!

[@lpnp9477]

@@JamVar very much so! You're a certain level of famous now, or at least your work is

[@septemily]

“You are not a doctor, you are not a church, YOU SELL STENCILS” had me dying 😂 (8:59)

[@Craxin01]

Only thing worse than a religious zealot is a religious zealot that believes they speak for God. I will NEVER set foot in a Hobby Lobby again.

[@RanOutaNames]

But the left and liberal companies telling us what to do and what to say is fine, right?

[@CM-ek9ec]

@@Craxin01 waiting for your reply for the comment above … I’m sure you can justify yourself.

[@Craxin01]

@@CM-ek9ec You mean the guy who thinks the left is the authoritarian group in the US? What could I say to someone who already made up their mind on everything.

[@tangleshootburrfoot36]

I wonder if she bought their stencils (and posterboard) to make her sign 😄

[@otakubullfrog1665]

I've noticed that a lot of my favorite large companies are privately held. I think going public tends to cause aspects of the business that made it great to be killed by committee and that having a guiding vision behind everything is preferable.

[@thewhitewolf58]

Its usually a souless board being run by shareholders that murders the companies identity because every aspect has to be max profit or else. Think this is one of the few private companies that i semi hate because they get too loud with their politics.

[@fartherdude5062]

That’s why sheetz is amazing!

[@TheGameGetterKuzuri]

That's why Walmart is a soulless box wearhouse

[@michaelmclaughlin261]

...and, going one step further, being bought by a hedge fund is usually the kiss of death.

[@thewhitewolf58]

@@michaelmclaughlin261 btw what is a hedge fund anyway? All i know is that a parent being a hedge fund manager means that character is rich.

[@ChrimsonFoxdon]

Joann was also fighting really hard to stay open during the pandemic using the same excuses, just saying. I used to work there and I remember the police having to come in and shut our store down cuz the local government deemed it as non essential

[@BigBlackGlock]

Must suck living in a police state. Nothing liked this happened in Texas.

[@AzraelThanatos]

They were more essetial than GameStop and similar places.

[@baum6721]

That's not something the government should ever even imagine being able to do. Government should have next to zero say in whether or not a legal, private business opens their door. It's insane how much people forget that government official are, ultimately, the bad guy in most situations. Same people screaming "defund the police" are the ones screaming for total lockdowns over the common cold.

[@MuDkipzCHancelLOr]

Ya, who needs money? Just stay home with you 1400 bucks and shop on Amazon. Screw paying bills!

[@Kimberlyn1323]

I find that odd because they sell fabric and elastic which was definitely essential to making face masks.

[@essidus]

I'm always so impressed with how gracefully you manage to walk the controversial lines

[@saxxonpike]

For real. I really like the sincere presentation. While I do not shop at Hobby Lobby personally, I also think that this video does well at educating us all what they're about, for better or worse. It's unfortunate that the disclaimer feels necessary, though.

[@colt5189]

@@saxxonpike I notice every company that upsets a liberal is considered a "controversial" company.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@colt5189 you're here because you're upset it's controversial. Facts over feelings.

[@Chrisy7]

@@colt5189 what about Nike? NFL? Disney? Google/Facebook/Twitter? Confirmation bias brain rot.

[@colt5189]

@@BleedForTheWorld I'd call Nike a "controversial" company because they inject themselves into controversy like supporting people who kneel to the National Anthem. But the liberal that runs this channel would never make a video calling them controversial.

[@svgenterprises1]

My favorite thing about this video.... I STILL don't know your political views! A solid breakdown. You are one of my favorite channels on the tubes and one of the only ones as soon as I get a notification of a new video I stop what I am doing to watch. Keep the good content coming!

[@angi3r0se]

@@tynj4173 mere clump of cells go bye bye

[@midzycase4003]

same omg

[@certifiedduck9124]

@@tynj4173 Same haha, he had just said contraceptives before an ad started when i saw your comment and i was worried

[@andrewk8636]

Lol it's clear to me what his views are tho

[@craighofmann638]

Let us also not forget that for all of Hobby Lobby's "God and Country 1st" bravado, the majority of the items they sell are made in China and other places that use the cheapest labor and sweat shop conditions..

[@wulfmark1963]

Most of the items sold at all these Arts and Craft stores are made in China. Merchandise looks all the same when shopping at different stores.

[@thekivster]

That’s not a contradiction

[@thelasttruepatriot]

Fun fact: People can choose to work in those shops or not, no one forces them to work there.

[@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916]

@@thelasttruepatriot People also forget they don't have to shop there. The irony with these people is ASTOUNDING to say the least. "They push their beliefs onto people" "How dare you not support MY religion outright" The mass psychosis is going to push us into conflict soon.

[@casketman14]

Okay well atleast they’re giving those people jobs lmfao

[@patrickstarofficial5602]

As a employee for hobby lobby the 17 an hour “minimum wage” is misleading… so the way the company divides pay is part time and full time. Only full time employees make 17 an hour the part timers make less, when I was first hired as part time it was 11 but recently (in Florida) Atleast in my store it was bumped to 13 an hour

[@ExtremePacifist]

i am thinking of getting a job at Hobby Lobby, about 20 miles from my home in southeast Florida. Are you still part time and did you get another raise this year?

[@NickNitro]

I bought oil molding clay from them once a year for the past 20 years, never have I cared about this company beyond it. that said, just starting the video and I'm interested in the details lol

[@dabillya6845]

you are still supporting them.

[@paulajay8525]

What do you do with molding clay once a year for 20 years?

[@kan50805]

@@paulajay8525 he probably was trying o sculpt something out of it

[@clvrswine]

20 years? Yet you have an anime avatar? Grow up.

[@NickNitro]

@@clvrswine I treat people with respect, work hard at a job I love & I'm married. What I do for fun isn't really your business, also if you need to be rude to another without provocation, I recommend you to take your own advice.

[@ricrey431]

My dispute with (at least my local) Hobby Lobby is never getting on full time, even after two and a half years working with them. Although I had the job title as Stockman, I only helped stocking anything when the other guys needed a hand. What my actually job was was janitor. Anyhow, it was less about how well you did your job, and more about how close you are to management. I was one of two, maybe three guys, that actually broke a sweat on a regular basis, yet I got passed up for full time employment several times. A couple of them were those that only worked a few months (one was just three months). That's when I gave my notice and left. This was a few months before the whole covid thing. Shortly there after, four of their other best employees quit, as well. Keeping in touch with a couple that still work there, they've said it's a shit show, a joke now. Seeing how they thought me cleaning up some awful messes that nobody in their right mind should cause let along clean up wasn't worth a "full time" status of 35 hours a week, I won't bother working for them again - especially as a janitor.

[@annoneemoose]

Every job promotes people close to management. The lesson here is to make your boss like you.

[@b64771]

Good on you for sticking around as long as you did. Sorry it didn’t work out for you in the end. I also find it extremely hard to climb social ladders .. I just can’t and won’t kiss ass. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@JL-sm6cg]

I applied once when they raised their wage high enough for me to live on, but it was part time first, so I turned it down.

[@dansanfrisco]

You have to assert yourself and let superiors know you want to move up. Just working hard is a quick way to get yourself "volun-told" into working on your days off when others call out sick.

[@josephgioielli]

The last law firm I worked at (reception, data entry, document prep) was a part time position shared between me and another person. My boss flat out told me he didn't want another full time employee.

[@Bandstand]

Went dummy on the thumbnail there 🔥

[@bcnicholas123]

Lol

[@CorneliusPWippleshire]

Bro u r everywhere

[@caraccident5357]

What does that mean?

[@Legion849]

@@caraccident5357 It means nothing it's a verified user begging for attention and likes

[@cliffpaul2483]

no

[@marcatboi7007]

My grandma loves to wander around hobby lobby. She occasionally buys things she thought were sweet or things like that. The closest one to her is at the beach so she makes sure to go there every time she takes us to the beach.

[@BofusTeefus]

Always trying to stay as impossibly objective as possible. This is why Company Man is one of my favorite channels.

[@eurekahope5310]

I support businesses making choices as to what they sell and how they will run their business, as long as they follow the law. If I don't like their religious or political stances, I can choose to shop elsewhere. This reminds me of the Pride Month pandering of businesses in the US, but the same companies changing their logos and websites did not follow suit in their Middle Eastern markets. These companies were seeking popular approval not standing on principle. Whether or not you like their principles, at least we know where Hobby Lobby stands.

[@jliscorpio]

My husband works for a large worldwide firm that changes its logo for Pride month. He has worked for them in the USA, UK, and the UAE. We are gay and my husband is on the board. Sad to say is that his firm changes their logo (in North America) so they get a better ranking from HRC. They, in reality, don't care one lick about LGBTQ+ issues whatsoever. They only care about their standing with HRC. We try to always remember that about them.

[@InfectedChris]

Corporate pandering during pride month is just awful. "We support the gays! (except in the Middle East, China, or any other market which does horrible things to members of that community) Please buy our coffee!" It really is a joke with those companies.

[@GordonRamseyIsMyLifestyle]

Thats true and I feel like corporate transparency is always super important, despite it sounding like a oxymoron 🙃

[@slimecorn]

Yeah like I'd rather hobby be open christian nationalists so I know not to spend a dime there.

[@CIOZimbabwe]

@@slimecorn Your money isn't needed. Hobby lobby will make money without you.

[@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr]

Props to you Company Man for doing your best to be objective with each video and the respective companies controversies. I feel like a lot of KZbinrs will take advantage of such toxicity in order to boost their channel's views. Good for you to keep it level and informational.

[@colt5189]

Notice how he's not going to make a video calling every company who changes their logo to the gay logo as being "Controversial". He's clearly a liberal who's personally upset by Hobby Lobby. This video is mostly nonsense.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

​@@colt5189 you're so out of touch. Company Man can't even say how the founder and CEO absolutely came from a privileged background at a time when black people were not allowed to obtain a mortgage. He misses this key point among others and it's honestly not shocking considering he's still young and may not know a lot about class history.

[@colt5189]

@@BleedForTheWorld Let's just assume what you are saying is true, what does any of that have to do with Hobby Lobby and their CEO? Answer is NOTHING. You're trying to inject made up controversy into companies you don't like.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@colt5189 it has a lot to do with the company's founder. Without the history of black oppression in America, the likes of Hobby Lobby wouldn't exist as they are. I'm putting history into its objective and proper context.

[@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr]

@@colt5189 I personally think it's a little presumptuous to determine a content creator's personal politics when disclosing in a video their attempts at neutrality. Rainbow capitalism is certainly a real and disingenuous marketing tactic used by a lot of companies, but not covering the ridiculously long list of companies that do this means he is not only in a certain camp but also specifically feels a certain way? That's a pretty huge leap. It sounds like to me (and this I'll admit is a stretch) that you are upset and angry. If you are why? Did someone hurt you? Was your 2020 particularly rough? Are politics really the thing making you upset, or could it be your lot in life, and how well you are doing physically, mentally, and emotionally? Do you really want to feel this way? Maybe you might need someone to talk to professionally and help you deal be it a therapist or life coach. Would be better than fighting strangers in the comment section of youtube channel that covers random companies factual history and practices.

[@georgef551]

They have a local controversy in Athol, MA (70 miles West of Boston). They bought an entire strip mall building in a new mixed-use shopping center, where their giant store occupies about 1/4 of it. They will not lease any of the vacant space out to anyone who operates on Sundays, or does not adhere to their religious beliefs. Needless to say which building of the property still has a 100% vacancy rate, excluding their section of it.

[@Mehhl81]

I mean if they own the property they dont have to rent it to anyone they want. It's theirs. If Satan worshippers owned a mall and didn't want to let Hobby Lobby have any space in the mall, I would say the same thing. It's their mall.

[@professoroak1920]

Hobby Lobby has inspired my Halloween costume this year. I'm going as Santa because I was so afraid when I walked in and saw over half the store was filled with Christmas stuff in July.

[@sandrataylorfatloss3201]

Cause it sells out way before December lol

[@branon6565]

If that made you feel afraid, then you're one of the weakest cowards I've ever heard of, and you deserve to be pointed out, mocked, ridiculed, and bullied on a daily basis....

[@cgimichaelmyers2806]

@@sandrataylorfatloss3201 No they don’t sell any Halloween merchandise.

[@sandrataylorfatloss3201]

@@cgimichaelmyers2806 I was talking about the Christmas stuff lol that most of it sells out before Christmas since she was saying how it’s overwhelming seeing since July

[@bloqk16]

With Hobby Lobby staying open during part of the Pandemic shutdown, it may have been very profitable for them. Where I live in the western part of the US, the Dollar Tree retailers in my area ran out of art/craft supplies during the height of the Pandemic; where the Dollar Tree employees told me there was a considerable uptick of demand with art/craft supplies with people spending more time at home. The few times I ventured into Dollar Tree stores in 2020, it was astounding to see the empty shelves in the art/craft sections.

[@bluejedi723]

When I worked at Joanne's Fabrics, Hobby Lobby was about a block away from us. We were constantly slammed on Sundays because Hobby Lobby was closed.

[@sadie_cat]

"They didn't want to have these religious principles shoved in their faces" Just turn the page ?

[@alliexcx5576]

Hdhshhs

[@junebug8530]

lol ikr

[@rhace1491]

I dont know how some people dont see this! I agree completely! You dont see the vast majority of Christians going around to malls trying to get Victoria's Secret, Spenser's, Etc. shut down (Im sure theres a few, but c'mon). Americans are still free, to turn the page, to hold a religion, and to speak their mind! But shutting others down because they are DIFFERENT!? Thats where we have to draw the line. I dont hear Hobby Lobby employees tell LGBTQ or aethiests they cant shop there so how is it shoving religion in their face. Just love one another!

[@oliviasaunders2333]

@@rhace1491 I agree with you that businesses should be allowed to express their religious beliefs within reason (including publishing those ads), but the video literally discusses how Hobby Lobby has been a hostile place for Jewish people. In addition, I've done my own research, and Hobby Lobby has both advocated for the legalization of discrimination against LGBT employees based on "religious exceptions", and continuously prevented a trans female employee from using the woman's bathroom. That case just went to court, and the employee won unanimously. I have no issue with businesses that are proud of their religious views, but when they use their power and religion to discriminate against others is when I draw the line.

[@blitzie66]

i thought people were upset that it’s entirely unrelated to hobby lobby’s ‘premise’ but literally people can just move on

[@davidburger462]

You should do one on Mervyns! I grew up going there in my childhood and they were always packed! I remember hearing the whole story on how the ending was very sad and they could have been saved :( would love to see your take one this

[@branon6565]

Omg me too! I loved when my Mom would take us to Mervyn's, the toy section was awesome....👍🇺🇸

[@MeowMeow_95_]

I remember them!!! I lived in California when I was a kid and I thought it was so elegant lol!

[@RoseluvsHHR]

Funny, the Mervyn's in my hometown was eventually turned into a Hobby Lobby. I used to shop at Mervyn's with my mom all the time as a kid.

[@spaceyrat]

Gosh that's a name I hadn't heard in a longgg time.

[@HotTakeAndy]

Damn I forgot about that store. We’re old.

[@user0-c5v]

I’m just waiting for a devoutly Muslim owned business to get similar negative press…

[@robgronotte1]

Not many of those in this country, certainly none as large as HL.

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

Wonder if they sell pork or pictures of the Prophet?

[@maxturnacioglu8514]

What is that supposed to mean? There are plenty of instances of hate crimes on Muslim and Jewish family businesses, just not the size of Hobby Lobby. Large Jewish-owned businesses are still the subject of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

[@joeykelly5642]

Thanks for being objective - you did a great job of presenting both sides of each issue. For the last controversy, just keep in mind that the line between “essential” and “non-essential” was pretty vague… In the end, it screwed over small businesses and left most large companies completely unscathed. Seemed more like a big money tool than a real precaution

[@Raskolnikov70]

It was beyond vague, it was insane. States were closing their beaches and parks but keeping big-box stores open. In some places you couldn't buy garden seeds and tools, but hey the potato chip aisle is wide open. Hobby Lobby got caught up in all that, and it didn't help being a multi-state business while each individual state was setting its own rules and constantly changing them.

[@fartherdude5062]

@@Raskolnikov70 and honestly it’s objectively reasonable for hobby lobby to want to stay open. A business like that with people couped up in their homes? But yea I just feel so bad for the small businesses the only small businesses that were able to get out without much issue were repair shops, distribution and grocery stores.

[@sor3999]

It wasn't that vague at least in California. It was practically anything and everything. I think the only places that had to stay closed the longest were probably gyms, in-door dining, movie theatres, convention centers, stadiums, bars, nigh clubs. I work in an office and we were flagged as essential and allowed to keep our offices open. We of course did not open them. Or maybe it meant we are allowed to still operate, but in a safe manner as in work from home. I did find that funny since offices are probably one of the most common disease breeding grounds.

[@charlesevanshughes3638]

In my state, the governor just said "fuck this, every business is essential". I can't imagine what the small business scene in states that shut down hard will look like after this is over. Prepare for a lot less Mom 'n Pop stores in California, to be repalced by the latest antinational conglomerate.

[@Rad21967]

I've been with the company for almost 6 years and all I have to say is God-bless them they pay well but they expect you to work and they do not discriminate against your religious beliefs or anything else they hire everybody and anybody and I love my job

[@bethg7931]

Me too! I’ve been there almost 2 years.

[@catherinegrace2366]

Glad to hear it! Glory to God! Thank you for saying so.

[@Creeper_-gl1lr]

@@catherinegrace2366 glory to deez

[@geargone]

As a former employee of this company I can honestly say that it's mistreatment of there employees should be more common knowledge.

[@Planag7]

I make sure to tell people that all the time they're foolish belief in their cult is very apparent and it does trickle down I remember my brother was threatened to get fired if he didn't act and walk straighter because they thought and suspected he was gay thankfully through arbitration and we were able to get a settlement out of it but the dude was buried at the time and it really upset him that they did this rather openly. Sadly the stupid thing is that he still shops there so I don't know what to tell him

[@jordanwilliams9300]

@@Planag7 omg that's so awful 😞

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

“Foolish cult” Would you say that about Jews or Muslims I wonder?

[@MrLurchMedia]

@@WhiskeyPatriot Would you?

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

@@MrLurchMedia Yes.

[@tball5677]

Every business is "essential" when it puts food on the table.

[@123goofyking]

@MercenaryToaster Literally wtf???

[@EpicEric2002]

@MercenaryToaster she probably just a 15year old white bi,pan girl that finds everything offensive

[@Uvuv6969]

@@EpicEric2002 Mk so I agree with the white part but bi? I think lesbian fits it more (totally not because I don’t want to be associated with these people)

[@weegle.]

@@EpicEric2002 what does sexual orientation have to do with that

[@InsaneH]

@@weegle. True

[@rogerrenfrow]

BTW The Gilgamesh Dream Tablet is being returned to Iraq tomorrow.

[@Totallyking]

Way too important for it to be in HL museum

[@AlexKS1992]

Where it’ll be destroyed by terrorists.

[@youreverydaynobody]

Where it will be promptly destroyed.

[@hexoticace8667]

Aaaand its gone.

[@Totallyking]

Yeah I mean ideally there could be a better place haha

[@shouryasanjeev9284]

From an outsider's perspective: 1. Newspaper ads- They have free speech and as long as the publisher is fine with printing it, it's alright. 2. Anti-Semitism- It was one incident from one employee but the not selling any jewish related things is sus. 3. Contraceptives- even based on their beliefs, it was wrong as the emergency pill stops conception, doesn't terminate it. 4. Museum- Buying illegitimate artifacts and smuggling things for which they probably had to pay some very bad people cannot be supported.

[@Definetely-nobody]

The emergency pill actually doesnt stop conception, it stops the embryo from attaching to the uterine lining, therefore starving the child. Not trying to be argumentative or anything 😅

[@Me-wk3ix]

I totally agree, mostly. Except on #1. Yep it's free speech and they have every right. Buy MY money sure won't go toward them pushing Christianity. That's my right.

[@josteau9849]

@@Definetely-nobody there is no “child” lmao.

[@shouryasanjeev9284]

@@Me-wk3ix dude in my country Christianity was and still is being spread to the poor and tribals by bribing them with food, money and sometimes even by baptising them in hospitals constructed by missionaries...I don't support this religious expansionism but newspaper ads to me didn't seem like a big deal.

[@shouryasanjeev9284]

@@Definetely-nobody thanks for the info but I don't think that changes much since you can't really consider it a child till brain functions start.

[@RyanDrake371]

People worry to much about other people’s business. I’m an atheist yet I shop at hobby lobby. If you don’t like their beliefs that much, then don’t shop there or work for them. Otherwise, set your differences aside and continue as normal.

[@justink1985]

This.

[@Katzelle3]

The biggest problem I could see is that the bible teaches christians not to flaunt their beliefs in public because that is what the hypocrites do and christians should be above that In fact you should be celebrating Christmas in private Christians should also see the separation of church and state as a good thing In other words the Hobby Lobby fellow is not following the teachings properly

[@cxri9454]

Ironic that you say that. Hobby lobby should takr notes and stop being religious cucks who cant mind their business and let their employees do what their paid to do. Without all the extra. But i agree, ppl can just not shop there. I still do cause idc enough not to go. But they do way too much for this god bull

[@nahor88]

I feel the same way about Chik-fil-a... people made such a shit about their stance on the LGBTQ community.

[@cxri9454]

@@nahor88 I'm sure they do. If you were black and they held racist views you would too. If you were white and they said being white is wrong and bad, you would too

[@Regi62]

Totally, who wasn't accidentally stolen a centuries old relic on the advice of people you don't really trust?

[@JamesPhieffer]

They bought it. Their mistake was in not properly investigating the provenance. I cannot think of a case since the 19th century or maybe earlier where a museum was directly involved in the illegitimate removal of an item. But as the ethics behind museum collections have evolved, the necessity of ascertaining the full details behind how a seller came to possess an item, and any previous transactions back to the initial "discovery" (for lack of a better term) has become more important. And yet there are still properties being bought and sold that were stolen from Jewish owners by the Nazi's, as well as items out of the Middle East with dubious histories. But there is a difference between stealing something, and purchasing something that was, or may have been, stolen.

[@jamesslick4790]

The British museum? 😜

[@onyxgrnr666]

@@jamesslick4790 what about it

[@JamesPhieffer]

@@jamesslick4790 Could be... #ICanNeitherConfirmNorDeny...

[@dalethelander3781]

I have the Sword of Charlemagne.

[@BugsyFoga]

Never knew about Hobby Lobby being controversial, so this will be pretty interesting to me .

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Do you live under a rock?

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

@@mirzaahmed6589 I didn't know either. I didn't follow much the controversy they did and it wasn't reported by many outlets either...

[@colin1818]

It wasn't really controversial. There were just a number of hateful people that constantly have to claim victimization.

[@DominusTecum316]

So what do you think know after seeing the video?

[@neeneko]

@@colin1818 well, that is kinda why they are so controversial. They are hateful people with a victimhood complex and enough money and power to be able to take it out on others.

[@johnna4487]

Hobby Lobby saved my ass during the first weeks of the pandemic when I had to devise a occupational therapy program after my sons special needs preschool closed. People were screaming all over Facebook because they were still open. Then they were forcibly closed, Walmart quickly ran out of fabric and elastic to make masks, and Joanns only did curbside pickup and wouldn't let people inside. People were screaming again because they were closed and they needed all that fabric just sitting around to make masks.

[@emarskineel]

“Even the Supreme Court we’re divided” When are they not divided?

[@Menaceblue3]

That's good. It means the actual definition of what is justice is often times hazy and stuck between a gray area.

[@SRW_]

@@Menaceblue3 Sounds like a night at the pub

[@colin1818]

@@Menaceblue3 - No. What it more likely means is that we have activist judges who feel empowered to legislate from the bench rather than just following what the law says. "Emanations and penumbras" from the text creating totally new Constitutional rights. That kind of thing.

[@neeneko]

@@colin1818 eh, it is less that they are activist, and more lawmakers have a habit of passing 'wink and nod' bills that depend on not being challenged in court. The rights were always there, the people in charge just had a 'well of course we did not include THOSE people!' attitude.

[@wdmc2012]

Generally about half of Supreme Court decisions are 9-0 or 8-1, but these results are typically on very narrow and uncontroversial cases. One such case this year involved a wife requesting police do a wellness check on her husband, and the police taking the opportunity to seize all the husband's guns without permission from either individual or a warrant from a judge. The court unanimously ruled this a violation of 4th amendment rights, not a very hard decision.

[@0h2ezy]

To say that one employee told a customer this or that… it’s completely hearsay. Never mind that the one employee doesn’t speak for the entire company

[@cxri9454]

They completely survived that whole employee spectacle. Ppl understood that one person doesn't represent a whole company so don't start preaching about cancel culture or sum sh!t

[@NoRegerts]

Exactly!!!

[@JonTheVGNerd]

Off-topic but feel free to include these (on Wednesdays too if possible): -The Rise and Fall of Rockstar Games (though could also be Why They're Hated; people blame Take-Two though don't realize that Rockstar Games aren't innocent themselves) -The Decline of Sega (likely from their recent closure of their largest arcade building in Tokyo this year, though they've been gradually on the decline since they discontinued the Dreamcast in 2001) -The Decline of Saturn cars (same for Oldsmobile, Hummer, Pontiac, and other older, defunct car manufacturers) -Why They're Successful (namely Disney+, Hulu (even though they're on the restrictive side when it comes to global releases), and Xumo) -The Rise and Fall and Rise again of Vizio (even though they don't sell their TVs globally, they were still somehow successful, at least int he US, Canada and Mexico) -N-Gage, Why It Failed -Epic Games Store, Why Its Hated Just my suggestions to you, Company Man. Keep up the amazing work!

[@rickmay1188]

These are all cool ideas. All of the car brands you mentioned were GM cars, and all (except hummer and saturn) were consolidated because Buick Electra = Chevy caprice = Oldsmobile tornado = Pontiac (forgot the name). It didn't make sense to keep 4 brands making the same car with different interiors under different names. Hummer died when gas hit $4/ gallon, and Saturn died when gm determined they couldn't sell cars that didn't rust, because they last too long.

[@blindgaming533]

YES

[@devonwilliams5738]

What is Xumo?

[@queencancerous5332]

Sega's actually found quite a bit of success in the last few years

[@gigi-pc7mp]

great ideas! ♡

[@SnakeEmperor14]

I’ve been working at Hobby Lobby for almost two years now and really enjoyed this video. Subscribed

[@subzeroreborn12]

To yet again mention our merit situation as hobby lobby employees. There is a gap in part time vs full time pay however they have just raised part timers (in georgia at least) a company wide $13 h/r for part time associates as of 10/4/21 the initial raise of 2020 seemed to had been more focused towards benefiting full time associates. There have been meetings to discuss another potential full time raise. I have no further information on that. i have been full time with them for 3 1/2. years now and I definitely appreciate “their own thing” they have going on 👍🏼 -sincerely an 820 employee

[@bethg7931]

Full time just went to $18.50 starting January 1, 2022

[@BIOHAZARD_V2]

I support their right to their beliefs as a private company. I can understand why people wouldn't like them, but they should be free to have their policies.

[@plzleavemealone9660]

Well, not when it comes to healthcare laws.

[@krysila7722]

@Frederick Shull I don't understand why Healthcare has to do with someone's workplace. It should've never been set-up like that.

[@mastermindmartialarts]

I've always liked Hobby Lobby. I'm not a craft guy but I have purchased some decent goods from there and it's always enjoy the time I spend shopping there.

[@reggieos6945]

just say your gæy next time it be easier than typing a whole paragraph

[@mastermindmartialarts]

@@reggieos6945 don't be an asshole. Whoops, too late.

[@leonardo.diCATio]

@@reggieos6945 hobby lobby has had a lot of controversies involving the lgbt community, not mentioned in the video. not too many people of that community like to support the business. and, frankly, your comment is just set in outdated and harmful beliefs that men that aren't shooting deer or playing sports are automatically homosexual. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but profiling people off of stereotypes just isn't cool.

[@TheGlock30owner]

I used to paint lead miniatures and would buy my paints from Hobby Lobby rather than my Local Gaming store (that sold the miniatures) as the paints were 80% cheaper than those marketed at gamers.

[@OOOO0OOOO0001___]

@@reggieos6945 and athēist

[@bryanmcwhorter1182]

Compared to most controversies we see out of businesses, this is nothing.

[@crouchb15]

Blackrock: why they're hated

[@effy4619]

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[@sym8246-f5c]

Who or what is blackrock? Coal industry in oklahoma?

[@dataman6310]

I went to the Museum of the Bible a few months ago, and in the area with the Dead Sea Scrolls they have a section on the side with a full explanation of the fake scrolls and how they were discovered. If you have any other questions about it (as I did) you can talk to a nearby expert about the situation in real time. I really appreciated the transparency.

[@Spiritdoh]

They were told it was real, someone tells you a dinosaur bone is real and it looks like the real thing and you fall for it, that’s not really your fault

[@pitiedvod]

@Mck Idyl At least they made lots of money for ISIS, on the shady purchases and museum raiding, so that is always good for them. Thanks David Green for that.

[@waywardwillard]

That museum is super sketchy, and it’s hilarious because they have ads everywhere but I can’t think of anyone I know who has been.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

Never heard of it.

[@lynnewilliams542]

Craft stores are essential. I know a nurse who said getting stuff from michaels saved her sanity during covid. She likes to knit

[@lindatexas5906]

You can buy knitting supplies at Wal-Mart, cheaper too, and of course more stores available. I only shop there when they have clearance sales!

[@sandaramoore9660]

@ Linda Texas…You can’t compare Walmart’s yarn section to Hobby Lobby’s. Hobby Lobby has 3 to 4 full isles of yarn and their is no comparison to the selection. Walmart has three-fourths of one isle…while the prices may be higher the selection is much greater. A lot of people, including myself resorted to crafting to maintain our sanity during the pandemic that still is going on. People started a home based business relating to crafts to replaced or supplement missing incomes.

[@Rae_is_Bae]

@@lindatexas5906 also why should walmart get all the money and what is safer about everybody being in the same stores..?

[@brentb.9243]

They’re a private company, on purpose. Since they don’t have a monopoly on crafting supplies, I think it’s fair to say that if you don’t like their business decisions, whether in or out of their retail stores, don’t shop there.

[@tiphermartin6779]

I agree on every part except for the part about not paying for reproductive health stuff through the company health insurance. But with everything else, I personally find it weird but they are free to do as they please.

[@lustthenlovethendivorce8900]

Yup. And also, if u dont like their ads, dont read them.

[@lustthenlovethendivorce8900]

@@tiphermartin6779 y do u need mouring after kill pill? Just keep ur legs closed or wear condum

[@w1swh1]

Good point! I will be sticking with Michaels after watching this video

[@RBMGamer]

@@lustthenlovethendivorce8900 This question feels like bait for an argument but i'll answer anway. We(my wife and I) used the pill once because we didnt realize our condom broke until after it was too late. We got the morning after pill just to make sure that she didn't get pregnant. We did wear a condom, and expecting a married couple to not have sex is just ignorant.

[@iwilllook5659]

To not shop at Hobby Lobby because of their issues is sufficient reason. Now look around at most other companies and make a decision on not patronizing them based on the Ideology and personal beliefs of the companies founders and/or current upper management. You will quickly find yourself with no place to shop or eat out.

[@100percentSNAFU]

My personal views are that any company can make the choice to run how they see fit. That said, my opinion is that being political in any way is usually bad for business, because you immediately eliminate one group by favoring another. Someone once said it isn't about red or blue, it's about green and they were right. In my business you sit down with customers one on one for a period of time, and since it is financial services, you get ALOT of political talk from customers. Having this job during Trump's Presidency was especially fun, because you got so many people that absolutely loved him or absolutely hated him, and I just enjoyed picking their brains a bit about it without revealing my personal opinion.

[@charlie9976]

I would imagine a company picking sides would be bad for business but i don’t know if companies don’t care or if they can get away with it as long as that political opinion follows the mainstream

[@polypolar715]

"A lot" is two words sweetie

[@boygenius538_8]

But for a privately owned company it’s for them to decide what they want to prioritize

[@100percentSNAFU]

@@polypolar715 Thank you grammar police. Or maybe just thanks, since it is one word.

[@jacksauce]

@@charlie9976 Chick Fil A is a great example of a company that has openly religious owners, but doesn’t force Christianity down your throat(aside from maybe being closed on Sundays but that’s debatable). It essentially picked a “side” but it doesn’t really matter all too much because of how good it’s reputation is.

[@toriquill1505]

thank you for being the middle of the road for this. I've seen a bunch of stuff where people went off on rants instead of explaining the controversies

[@dannygarden2292]

Lack of objectivity is something Mike is well known for struggling with. Hobby Lobby is objectively evil.

[@charlockprime]

That empty Toys R Us building hit me hard.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I was a little concerned with the direction you were going to take with this. But, I think you were very fair and impartial. Great job as always.

[@LividCreature]

What concerned you?

[@CartersRemasters]

@@LividCreature he is a radical right winger who was afraid that his crazy views were going be challenged

[@Rountree1985]

@@CartersRemasters yep, exactly.

[@johnnyfroggo7361]

@@CartersRemasters Ah yes, flawless leap of logic there. Totally in keeping with the intended objective and fair tone of the video

[@de_ciphered]

@@CartersRemasters You just had to bring in the boogeyman of the "scary right winger" into this fucking video.

[@floatingsmiley]

I appreciate that you tried your best to stay objective during presenting their errors. I have a lot of opinions so I’m just gonna say, yes occasionally I still shop there even though I disagree with how they run their business. I prefer Michael’s tho 👀

[@9geisha]

@@paulnubreu6887 did something happen to you sir? are you okay?

[@MagicalBread]

@@paulnubreu6887 Pot calling the kettle. This logic literally applies to all of human history. Religion, politics, social media etc.

[@ale347baker]

@@paulnubreu6887 I'd say you're speaking YOUR truth. Im sorry.

[@RatbagTheCoward]

@@paulnubreu6887 Those that are trigger happy to call others sheep are often insecure about the fact that they’re a sheep in denial themselves. Get help

[@RatbagTheCoward]

@@paulnubreu6887 Same to you friend

[@instaglam7508]

I’m obsessed with hobby lobby I literally can spend hours walking the isles getting inspirations and creative ideas

[@cowboy_levi6283]

I liked going there as a kid to look at the colorful materials

[@tylerosborne4980]

Not on Sunday you can't

[@rokamayonoh3rt362]

They have the closest crafts store with a big stock, most of their pens and stuff are pretty okay from what i've seen

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

@@tylerosborne4980 good for them! That’s their right and I know their employees love that!

[@droppinloot4960]

@@tylerosborne4980 are they closed on Sundays like Chick-fil-A?

[@wdchapman1969]

Freedom of religion plus Capitalism means you can worship AND run your business as you see fit. If someone is offended by the religious or political beliefs of a company or people that own said company, then you have the right to shop elsewhere. Religion and business don't have to be mutually exclusive. Chik-fila is another example of a company that has had controversies over their beliefs yet they are one, if not the most, successful chicken restaurants. So its all about freedom. Freedom to run your company the way you see fit, and on the flip side, the customers have the freedom to shop and spend their money where they want. Its that simple.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Funny how people will say things like: "It's a private company they can do whatever they want......unless it's Christian then NO THEY CANNOT!" 🤣

[@jeffmill]

True, unless said company discriminates against race, sex or religion. Luckily for Hobby Lobby, sexual orientation isn't a protected class, or they'd have a real quandary on their hands

[@churblefurbles]

@@jeffmill that's the thing, those against this kind of thing are well known as the most likely to discriminate themselves, its why the o'sullivans law is a thing.

[@SANTI_697]

I love your videos. Hobby Lobby was the most recent addition to my local mall strip. 2 minutes away from both a Michaels and JOANN

[@dubiousragdid8628]

Don’t like them? Don’t shop there. Don’t work there. Simple as that.

[@boll2.094]

Ikr? This applies to all businesses. If you don’t like them, don’t support them.

[@cxri9454]

Yep. And they can just go out of business 😄

[@dubiousragdid8628]

@@cxri9454 if that’s the outcome from their policies then that’s on them. But don’t tell someone how to run their business if it’s legal and within their own personal values.

[@cxri9454]

@@dubiousragdid8628 I didnt say they sould tell them how to conduct business.

[@Jorgewalt24]

If employers should let the workers have their own beliefs then schools should let children have their own beliefs

[@thomasplummer8103]

"Why should your employer have any say in those matters" I mean, if they are being forced by the government to pay into a health insurance plan, they have a financial stake. Not saying right or wrong, and I think it is a pretty good argument for divorcing Health insurance from employment, along with not having to change providers/pharmacies to fit a new Insurance plan just for getting a new job.

[@mjbl1787]

eh...birth control is a pretty thing thats included in most employers insurance plans. this is purely a religion based decision by them.

[@neeneko]

They actually the the option of telling the government 'no, we will not pay for it' and the state would have picked up the cost. But they refused to allow that either. That is what made their decision so controversial and spiteful, it was not even their financial interest at stake, they just did not want people they had control over to access the pills.

[@adriangonzalez3600]

I have a financial stake in my workplace healthcare plan as well; should I have the right to dictate the healthcare services of my coworkers based on their perceived healthy habits? Most people would say no, so I don't see why the employer would get to either. Hobby Lobby is a huge multi-state company, not some 5 person small business, and their health insurance plan is discriminatory to employees that don't share their strict religious beliefs, and creates scenarios such as "a woman who was raped and impregnated would not be able to have their emergency contraception covered by their work insurance plan", which is also discriminatory to women. Two, women have a right to abortion early in the pregnancy as protected by Roe vs. Wade, and emergency contraception absolutely fits in that time frame. Of course, the whole system of employment and insurance being tied to each other is the real issue, but that doesn't excuse their blatant discrimination. When between making decision that's good for the patient or good for the the spread of radical christianity, it's clear this conservative activist court is always going to side in favor of their own bias and political interests over doing the right thing by the patient.

[@neeneko]

Also, bit of irony for you : a few decades ago, businesses and even conservatives were actually in favor of creating a government run healthcare system. It was in no small part the religious lobby that fought it and popularized the 'socialism is coming for you!' meme that is so popular today. One of the big reasons they did not want a government run system is that healthcare filtered through private religious companies means power over people who will not join their religion but do need healthcare. If the government got involved, it would mean people could get healthcare without them

[@williamsmart6759]

@@neeneko Total speculation on your part and I see no evidence to back up your "personal viewpoint".

[@KittenKuddler]

I personally like Hobby Lobby. They sell a lot of cute stuff, but since it's a religious franchise they don't sell any Halloween related stuff which is a bummer.

[@SansoHumar]

What hobby lobby do you go to???? I’ve bought Halloween stuff there before.

[@autumnh62000]

@@SansoHumar Some locations would sell some, but not anymore because it wouldn’t sell that much.

[@bryseydagomez8263]

I agree

[@ELDELD]

When I needed a neurosurgeon, I didn’t care what his religious beliefs were. When I needed home decor, I didn’t care what Dollar General’s beliefs were either. Just wanted that $3 sign! 🤣

[@bythegods5683]

That exchange of money is directly influencing your community because they have power. Ignoring it doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect.

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

The thing is they do care. They care so much they restrict their employees and buys newspaper ads about how much they care. If they where christen and never talked about it I would not care.

[@ReddieBeaty]

Engaging in commerce is often going to have crappy moral Implications It who cares enough to learn but not enough to change their behavior. Dollar general aids in destroying communities.

[@robgronotte1]

I wouldn't trust a neurosurgeon who I knew was religious.

[@ninjatortise8958]

Well I wish other people thought the same way as you..

[@pantherplatform]

Belief in God isn't religion. Counting beads, reciting phrases over and over, kissing the foot of a statue, or anything that you do to try to help God save you is religion.

[@pantherplatform]

Like God needs your help...

[@smithdennard4547]

That argument looses steam the moment that the employer had to pay for it. You can't say, "mind your own business." When the employer is FORCED to pay for your businesses.

[@neeneko]

Thing is, they employer was NOT being forced to pay. There was a path in the law where basically they could fill out a 'we will not pay for religious reaons' bit of paperwork and the state would make up the difference. They refused to fill it out because it would mean their employees would have access again and THAT was against their belief.

[@brandonwhite5688]

So you would agree that those fall under healthcare and should be free anyway?

[@kaezuchi]

By that same token, you’re given the employer the chance to deny any sort or care to their employees just because they don’t agree with it. Oh you broke you arm? Arms aren’t important I’m not paying for it. Oh, you’ve been diagnosed with cancer? Pray to the lord, I’m not paying for it. I’m my opinion, if the employer is gonna dictate what the employees can be covered for, the employees should get to dictate what some of the money from the business is spent on.

[@wdmc2012]

The government has plenty of right to shove its nose into the business of any company. Every day it forces companies to spend money on safety and worker's rights. This decision was not based on money, but rather the idea that companies can have protected religious beliefs. This decision, with the earlier citizens united decision that defended a corporation's right to free speech, made a lot of people question the idea of "corporate personhood."

[@brandonwhite5688]

@@kaezuchi That's why we need to move away from an employer based healthcare system and into a single payer system. Healthcare, including contraception and abortion is a right, and we shouldn't be allowing employers or anyone in that matter to not allow for these procedures or meds.

[@suralos]

It seems like a double standard to force a company like Hobby Lobby while something like a Hollywood movie studio is considered ESSENTIAL BUSINESS.

[@olisonline]

I went to hobby lobby once to buy Halloween decorations but I was so sad they didn’t believe in fun :(

[@Neon_Plasma]

Underrated comment

[@MilwaukeeWoman]

Really!? I didn't know that. I never would have since I quit shipping there when they were required to close and didn't until the police forced the store closed last year.

[@dannylesovo1908]

halloween is of the devil

[@burny7216]

No official reason was given, but we think Halloween was removed to make more space for Fall products, since that's more popular.

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

@@dannylesovo1908 Sure and the Mexican Day of the Dead is of the devil because of the decorations too right?

[@kellykerr5225]

I was there as a child in that exact TG &Y. I clearly remember their toy department because I was a small child. The picture brought back a lot of memories

[@donfisherjr.2404]

A nice, neutral take on some of the claims against Hobby Lobby. Good work! As I see it, the company admins. try to live their faith as they see fit and people can either shop at their stores or not. I'll add that I'm old enough to remember when most every store was closed on Sunday, and it's refreshing to see some stores following that tradition.

[@Train_Hobo]

Kinda like chick fil-a

[@cxri9454]

Yes of course you're an old traditional fart 😄

[@DTPIIXART]

I buy from Hobby Lobby because they have the one product I need for my business that I have not found a suitable replacement for yet... and that is their yarn inventory. Their "I Love This Yarn" brand comes in a ton of different colorways that no other brand can match. Also the yarn is great quality. Yarn is almost the only thing I buy from them. I'm not religious so I couldn't care less about their religion or their practices. As long as they keep that yarn line up, I'm in.

[@tavern2468]

You do you baby girl

[@Bear-pw7nu]

The way it should be!

[@DTPIIXART]

@@tavern2468 ok cat turd

[@jeffhooper3447]

You don't need to be religious to think hobby lobby and Chik fil a are absolutely fucked

[@jeffhooper3447]

​@@Bear-pw7nu nah anyone who donates to Planned Parenthood can go get stuffed.

[@collinney-whatevertogether6878]

Ah the best part about wednesday

[@effy4619]

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[@Seasonal50]

By far

[@totallynotbluu]

@@effy4619 cope

[@Thetank1111]

The hobby lobby in the news clip at the 5:00 mark is right down the road from me. Never would’ve thought I’d see that exact store in a KZbin video

[@anainmazatlan]

I have never been to a Hobby Lobby and after watching this, I never will.

[@amygentry3222]

I just refuse to shop there

[@pogmaster6961]

I’d love to see Behr paint one day :D

[@nancystone3793]

When HL arrived in our town, my eldest daughter and I both applied. She was at the next table over about to be offered a job, when my interviewer asked if I’d quit my other job since I had to work Sundays (pro sports team and concerts). I needed both jobs to survive and told him no. Immediately I saw the man at my daughter’s table dismiss her as my interviewer dismissed me. Mine said they wanted employees to honor the day of rest. A friend of ours from a competitor got hired. 3 months later, he and most of the other new hires were gone. After noticing this repeat a few times, the word about town was that they didn’t want to follow the ACA rules by providing insurance options at 3 months. I don’t know if that is true, but rarely do you see the same employees long enough to get to know them unless they seem very active in their faith. We only buy from HL when we can’t get what we need from a competitor.

[@jimdavis5849]

I love going in this store. The prices, selection and environment are wonderful. I am not religious in any way, but I think this is a private company and they have the right to their own corporate culture. The alleged freedoms we have in this country are shrinking daily. If you don't like a store don't go there.

[@CityOfNashville]

The profits going to this store go to stealing culturally significant pieces from other countries, donations to groups trying to strip women and LGBTQ rights away, and pushing religion into schools as well as the general public. Contributing to this store is a big yikes

[@vaderladyl]

I think they are over priced actually,

[@jimdavis5849]

@@vaderladyl I just get stuff when they do 40% off in that department. There regular prices might be overpriced.

[@Rebjacjul]

It’s my favorite craft store, for sure!

[@1OO_k]

Thank you! Finally someone talking sense instead of the usual leftist prattle I've seen in this comment section.

[@christopherconard2831]

Essential/nonessential businesses are completely random. I work in a restaurant that didn't close during the lockdown. Because steak and chicken tendies are "essential", and God forbid that anymore should know how to turn on a stove. Some closed completely, some to dine in only, others with limited occupancy.

[@Allthingshotels]

Hell in my area liquor stores were able to be open but not restaurants..guess it was essential for people to be drunk of their asses.

[@cmdrfunk]

The entire idea is bullshit, and none of it accomplished a damn thing in the end but damage the economy and make everyone hate each other.

[@ynot1935]

@@cmdrfunk 💯

[@joeykelly5642]

Someone I know worked at a place that grew microgreens - mostly those stupid little garnish leaves they put on food in restaurants. Somehow that was “essential”. Meanwhile, people were prevented from getting elective surgeries because they weren’t important enough… The shutdown was a huge benefit for large retailers like Walmart and Amazon. It killed their small business competitors and forced everyone to shop with them. Remember that

[@MilwaukeeWoman]

@@Allthingshotels Sudden quitting of drinking can kill a person if they're addicted.

[@andrew6xrv]

I like what they sell, but I kind of get an uncomfortable feeling in their stores for some reason, and I don’t know why. I do love their 90% off clearance sales though lol

[@branon6565]

Amanda L....the "type of people"?! Wtf is that supposed to mean? My Mother, my girl, and my sister in law all shop there, and my lady is an atheist like me....so please elaborate on your comment....

[@machinismus]

@@branon6565 Your comment combined with your username is comedy gold lmao.

[@nikesfake2259]

“What could something a company does be as confrontational as he’s getting to?” *RELIGION* Sounds about right