Hobby Lobby - The Controversial History

Hobby Lobby has been one of the most controversial companies of the last decade. This video talks about their early days and reasons behind their success, before outlining some of their biggest sources of controversy.
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[@The-Story-Assassin]

When you walk in you see the sign that says, “All furniture ALWAYS 30% off”. If it’s always 30% off, then it’s NEVER 30% off! That’s the normal price!

[@digitalfootballer9032]

Lol, that's a great point.

[@3rdEyeWide]

Maybe they mean it's 30% off the RRP (Recommended Retail Price), the price the manufacturer believes a retailer should be selling a product for?

[@thestop-motionstudios7594]

We just adjust the marked price so the 30% off price changes, amazon also increase prices by a few dollars on stuff you might like and then say it’s ”5% off”

[@theactingfantasy]

Does anyone even buy furniture from Hobby Lobby?

[@thestop-motionstudios7594]

@@theactingfantasy yes every day, we sell probably more furniture than Christmas trees

[@ETibbs11]

When I worked at Michaels, Sundays were our busiest days... because a Hobby Lobby was right across the street for us. xD

[@pastorpeteonthestreet3112]

Hobby Lobby honors Jesus Christ.. The way it should be.

[@LividCreature]

@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 Jesus didn’t like profits?

[@iiRockkSkiinies]

@@LividCreature what you mean? The profits are the idiots giving their “10% salary and donations” every Sunday lol.

[@pastorpeteonthestreet3112]

It is LOVE of money that is the root of all kinds of evil (1 Tim 6). Make piles of money and give it all away. That is what I did . Are you saved?

[@villageidiot3763]

@@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 nah

[@KyleKahotek]

I worked at Hobby Lobby for a second job just after they reopened after the shutdown. They sold a TON of fabric and material for masks. Also, a large chunk of customers were Etsy business owners. Could be some truth to their "essential" claims but idk, i just wanted to make a little extra scratch.

[@jacobh674]

I don’t think it should be around what they sell. It’s essential because the people who work there need to be able to eat and pay rent.

[@WolfStrife]

During the shutdown, I had to quickly get a job at a grocery store. As soon as they reopened I was back at it again. And God we sold so much fabric!

[@marksanford8237]

Some folks really need to learn what "essential" means.

[@MYNAMEISGARY]

@@jacobh674 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@1995marixsa]

um fabric can be delivered home just saying. They have no explanation for their actions

[@WolfStrife]

I worked at Hobby Lobby for 2 years, great coworkers, poor management, very difficult getting fulltime and I believe the company does not appreciate it's workers. Welcome to retail I guess.

[@andrewpytko4773]

I'd not much better in the work\ld of desk jobs and office space. Delivery services like UPS and FEDEX are where you should go.

[@tylermccann848]

I always thought the biggest controversy with Hobby Lobby was that no matter where you are it feels like you need to drive an hour to get to one.

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

Or that they put all the good stuff in that back so you have to walk past all the stuff you don't want

[@Clay3613]

I live less than a mile from one, great since I need paint pens often.

[@AarmOZ84]

I live two blocks away from one.

[@safetysheep5508]

I live like 5 minutes away from one

[@blueyedwonder8747]

There's 2 within 20 minutes of my house, and a 3rd within 40 minutes...

[@Taskandpurpose]

I binge watched all of Company Mans videos now what do I do with my life?

[@harpuavids]

Watch them all twenty more times. They're that good.

[@FreemanLegend]

wait for more

[@SadSadSadSquishSquishSquish]

Start your own business from scratch, hell I’ll even join you.

[@ELDELD]

Go out there and show this world thing or two!

[@michaelkeller5927]

@@SadSadSadSquishSquishSquish and if it goes through hard times, your company will be featured on this channel lol

[@livin4thelamb499]

As an employee of Hobby Lobby (I worked a year on register and over a year in the frame shop), I have to say I'm impressed with your video. I thought you were very open and non-bias in your reporting. :-) Well done. I can confirm one thing about the pandemic and the employees getting paid. I was there when my store shut down for 2 months, and while we didn't get full pay, my manager personally called me to let me know I would be getting a smaller amount out of the store's emergency fund, which continued for those two months. Based on my personal experience, I'm happy to say that my time with Hobby Lobby was a good and much-needed respite from the horrible jobs/bosses I've had in the past. I know every location/manager is different, but working there with my supportive co-workers and pleasant customers healed a lot of the mental health struggles I had been having (those had gone on or years and were already on the slow upswing, but being at a low-pressure job I liked really boosted my needed reprieve). All this to say, thanks for making this video in a respectful way. Regardless of its controversies, the store as a place to shop and to work has been a huge comfort and blessing to me. I quit in less than two weeks because I'm moving, and honestly I am sad to leave.

[@dodsonbe360]

Christian values trickle down

[@racheli6733]

Thank you!

[@arusu1806]

During the Pandemic, I went to hobby lobby the most because I had nothing to do at home. It helped me with my depression and anxiety of being stuck home all day.

[@Thundertats]

Glad to hear you found something to get you through!

[@fosterck13]

Same here!!

[@dragonrapidmusic]

Good

[@ericwilliams626]

Depression correlates directly with creation. The more you create the less you are depressed. Think about it more.

[@Kittypop2003]

I got myself a felt sewing kit from hobby lobby and helped me through the pandemic. Plus I learn my love for sewing early on.

[@CaveDweller-oi5cf]

As an employee at Hob Lob...the $17/hr is only if you're full time part time is $11. It's not my favorite place to work but I'll take the pay....please be kind to hobby lobby employees

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

The money that's going to you is not going to them. So that's cool

[@ale347baker]

The difference in pay is crazy. Its not right.

[@fartherdude5062]

@@ale347baker many companies do that to incentivize “moving up” in the company. A lot of part time workers are only in it for a short time and for large retailers like hobby lobby that can be a big liability since training employees is very expensive and risky.

[@ale347baker]

@@fartherdude5062 I understand, but I hear from part timers there that it is very hard/impossible for some of them to become full time, even after working there for years. I kind of think that they just want to pay little.

[@marcusegan8682]

@@ale347baker Depends on their store. I opened a new store, now been open two years. We've had all but two of the original people who opened moved to full time at some point. Even much of what we hired after opening has become full time. Most those that don't either 1- dont want full time 2- are students or 3- incompetent. Older store though most likely have more established crew. Just like any retail job there is only so many full time positions. If you want one, you need to wait til one opens (i.e. someone quits) and realize you are not the only person wanting full time.

[@28ebdh3udnav]

We're still waiting for it.... *KZbin - Why They're Hated*

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

You really want Mama Susan to crucify this poor man don't you?

[@justicicle9673]

[REDACTED]

[@charlieme5150]

_[comment deleted and reported to the FBI]_

[@zombieranger3410]

[comment deleted glory to Arstotska!]

[@ariannamyrie9520]

@@zombieranger3410 Country Proud!

[@jordynnjohnsrud9347]

My biggest problem working at Hobby Lobby is that they don’t use barcodes, yet expect you to memorize an entire page worth of ad prices. As a person with ADHD this is a total nightmare.

[@MoniMeka]

Oh, no ma'am! 😬

[@trevordoeshalloween5994]

that's why you have an ad in your register drawer

[@sadie_cat]

"They didn't want to have these religious principles shoved in their faces" Just turn the page ?

[@alliexcx5576]

Hdhshhs

[@junebug8530]

lol ikr

[@rhace1491]

I dont know how some people dont see this! I agree completely! You dont see the vast majority of Christians going around to malls trying to get Victoria's Secret, Spenser's, Etc. shut down (Im sure theres a few, but c'mon). Americans are still free, to turn the page, to hold a religion, and to speak their mind! But shutting others down because they are DIFFERENT!? Thats where we have to draw the line. I dont hear Hobby Lobby employees tell LGBTQ or aethiests they cant shop there so how is it shoving religion in their face. Just love one another!

[@oliviasaunders2333]

@@rhace1491 I agree with you that businesses should be allowed to express their religious beliefs within reason (including publishing those ads), but the video literally discusses how Hobby Lobby has been a hostile place for Jewish people. In addition, I've done my own research, and Hobby Lobby has both advocated for the legalization of discrimination against LGBT employees based on "religious exceptions", and continuously prevented a trans female employee from using the woman's bathroom. That case just went to court, and the employee won unanimously. I have no issue with businesses that are proud of their religious views, but when they use their power and religion to discriminate against others is when I draw the line.

[@blitzie66]

i thought people were upset that it’s entirely unrelated to hobby lobby’s ‘premise’ but literally people can just move on

[@theodoresmith3353]

“Is the museum of the bible a way to secretly convert people to their faith?” What gave it away? The name of the museum?

[@Craxin01]

Should be renamed the museum of the easily scammed, as most of the so-called artifacts were 100% fake.

[@Bullboy_Adventures]

I wouldn't be surprised if they have an artifact like, the cross jesus was crucified in or something

[@Lexa_makes_art]

Same with the Creation Museum and The Ark Encounter. They were both very immersive and amazing experiences, but something told me they were really just catering to pre-existing Christians specifically, not the "unbelievers" that they want to convert.

[@Lexa_makes_art]

@@Bullboy_Adventures Christians have been faking Christian artifacts for centuries, like the Shepherds staff from the Nativity, Mary Magdalene's Skull, stuff like that!😂😂

[@Lexa_makes_art]

@@Bullboy_Adventures I forgot to mention that there are so many churches and monasteries that claim to have remains of Jesus' cross you could build a whole ass house with that much wood!!

[@Eagle-cy4qj]

We studied the hobby lobby case while I was in college for my civil rights law class. It was the most complicated, interesting, and debated case. There was no simple answer because of the ACA, First Amendment, the concept of corporate personhood, and the public accomodations issues at play. There were some parts of the decision that were, in my view, correct and some that were disastrously wrong.

[@townfool4682]

i feel like corporate personhood was a mistake, it seems to be the source of a lot of ire for the american people

[@GlanderBrondurg]

@@townfool4682 Corporate personhood is also something that is incredibly hard to avoid in the legal situations where it matters. It isn't a new concept at all either, although corporate person "rights" is somewhat new. It may be a source of ire, but it boils down to the details of what it means to establish a corporation. Even the term "corporation" has as the root of the meaning of the word a "body" ("corpus") showing that was always the intention even when these kind of organizations were originally established in medieval times.

[@AaronOfMpls]

@@GlanderBrondurg Yup, partnerships and organizations that kinda act as one body are older than humanity, when you consider how many animals live in groups and make group decisions. Corporations themselves have long been "legal persons" in the sense that they can own property, can enter into contracts, and can sue and be sued. At the same time, they're not "natural persons" (since they're _organizations_ of actual people), so their rights and responsibilities are different. _How_ different is something reasonable people can disagree on in lots of ways.

[@arthurmingo]

The real issue with this cases is to what extent does corporate personhood reflect that of the owners and can a corporation be a stand-in for a person.

[@abnormallynormal8823]

@@arthurmingo the real real issue is when you have corporations acting as people and donating millions to political campaigns and lobbyists

[@shelcancook6731]

When I worked there, the part time was only $10 compared to the $16 an hr of the full time. I started as part time, was promised a full time position when they built a new store in our town. However when the new incoming manager arrived she hired mostly new people to fill the new full time positions. I got the shaft and was given only 11 hours a week even as a CSM (customer service manager). No insurance and 11 hours a week doesn't pay for anything. The manager did that to a few of us just to get us to quit so they wouldn't have to pay unemployment for firing us.

[@shouryasanjeev9284]

From an outsider's perspective: 1. Newspaper ads- They have free speech and as long as the publisher is fine with printing it, it's alright. 2. Anti-Semitism- It was one incident from one employee but the not selling any jewish related things is sus. 3. Contraceptives- even based on their beliefs, it was wrong as the emergency pill stops conception, doesn't terminate it. 4. Museum- Buying illegitimate artifacts and smuggling things for which they probably had to pay some very bad people cannot be supported.

[@Definetely-nobody]

The emergency pill actually doesnt stop conception, it stops the embryo from attaching to the uterine lining, therefore starving the child. Not trying to be argumentative or anything 😅

[@Me-wk3ix]

I totally agree, mostly. Except on #1. Yep it's free speech and they have every right. Buy MY money sure won't go toward them pushing Christianity. That's my right.

[@josteau9849]

@@Definetely-nobody there is no “child” lmao.

[@shouryasanjeev9284]

@@Me-wk3ix dude in my country Christianity was and still is being spread to the poor and tribals by bribing them with food, money and sometimes even by baptising them in hospitals constructed by missionaries...I don't support this religious expansionism but newspaper ads to me didn't seem like a big deal.

[@shouryasanjeev9284]

@@Definetely-nobody thanks for the info but I don't think that changes much since you can't really consider it a child till brain functions start.

[@truckingham3233]

Somewhat unrelated, but Hobby Lobby also does a lot of freight brokering. The company I work for does a lot of work for Tractor Supply and their have been times that a Tractor Supply load will come from a Hobby Lobby distribution center

[@mok.6085]

Considering Hobby Lobby’s polarizing reputation and how tricky it can be to track supply chains (especially to the uninitiated), this is a clever move. In more liberal areas, it might be a large reason why they’re able to survive there.

[@AdamJMeadTheOraclesClassroom]

Interesting! Seems like a strange offshoot. How/when did they get into that line?

[@nicks4802]

Not gonna lie, i frickin love TSC

[@Batmanyeets]

Makes sense I worked for tractor for awhile and I noticed we would get alot of things from random DCs that weren't our own and that would explain where they came from

[@linden6352]

Interesting! Having seen that they own quite a considerable amount of their own trucks (whereas most companies use other dedicated trucking companies), I was wondering how in the world they managed to fill that many trucks on just Hobby Lobby stuff. Makes a lot more sense now.

[@Dangic23]

Never been to a Hobby Lobby in my life. My hobby is eating, and they don't offer much of that there.

[@lpnp9477]

Um. I'm pretty sure they sell tasty glue

[@Dangic23]

@@lpnp9477 I'm sure they have candy bars. But I don't eat those.

[@lpnp9477]

@@Dangic23 never considered checking for candy. Man, could have saved myself from a sticky situation.

[@ninjatortise8958]

I mean odds are you got a grandma, or a weird aunt that could go there..

[@Dangic23]

@@ninjatortise8958 Nobody that I know of. Every place I lived in, Hobby Lobby seems to always be in a not so great area of town. Like old shopping centers.

[@anainmazatlan]

I have never been to a Hobby Lobby and after watching this, I never will.

[@ChrimsonFoxdon]

Joann was also fighting really hard to stay open during the pandemic using the same excuses, just saying. I used to work there and I remember the police having to come in and shut our store down cuz the local government deemed it as non essential

[@BigBlackGlock]

Must suck living in a police state. Nothing liked this happened in Texas.

[@AzraelThanatos]

They were more essetial than GameStop and similar places.

[@baum6721]

That's not something the government should ever even imagine being able to do. Government should have next to zero say in whether or not a legal, private business opens their door. It's insane how much people forget that government official are, ultimately, the bad guy in most situations. Same people screaming "defund the police" are the ones screaming for total lockdowns over the common cold.

[@MuDkipzCHancelLOr]

Ya, who needs money? Just stay home with you 1400 bucks and shop on Amazon. Screw paying bills!

[@Kimberlyn1323]

I find that odd because they sell fabric and elastic which was definitely essential to making face masks.

[@septemily]

“You are not a doctor, you are not a church, YOU SELL STENCILS” had me dying 😂 (8:59)

[@Craxin01]

Only thing worse than a religious zealot is a religious zealot that believes they speak for God. I will NEVER set foot in a Hobby Lobby again.

[@RanOutaNames]

But the left and liberal companies telling us what to do and what to say is fine, right?

[@CM-ek9ec]

@@Craxin01 waiting for your reply for the comment above … I’m sure you can justify yourself.

[@Craxin01]

@@CM-ek9ec You mean the guy who thinks the left is the authoritarian group in the US? What could I say to someone who already made up their mind on everything.

[@tangleshootburrfoot36]

I wonder if she bought their stencils (and posterboard) to make her sign 😄

[@CrAzYcAsS0510]

I feel like business owners should have a say in what they wanna sell and how they want others to perceive them as a company overall, with that being said I don’t necessarily support their beliefs but as a consumer I have the right to just not shop there or work there.

[@RalseiSmokinAFatBlunt]

Yeah i agree. I personally don’t agree with them but nobody’s forcing me to shop there y’know🤷‍♂️

[@yeahright3145]

Yes, I agree but that employee’s response was unnecessary. They could have simply said “Sorry we don’t have any for sell”.

[@cycologist7069]

@@yeahright3145 Chances are, that employee was fired. Obviously that individual employee was (probably still is) racist.

[@davefromhomedepot7416]

@@yeahright3145 a company cant really tell an employee what to say lmao the dumbass said that all on his or hers own. Hopefully they got fired

[@yeahright3145]

@@cycologist7069 agreed.

[@marcatboi7007]

My grandma loves to wander around hobby lobby. She occasionally buys things she thought were sweet or things like that. The closest one to her is at the beach so she makes sure to go there every time she takes us to the beach.

[@Rad21967]

I've been with the company for almost 6 years and all I have to say is God-bless them they pay well but they expect you to work and they do not discriminate against your religious beliefs or anything else they hire everybody and anybody and I love my job

[@bethg7931]

Me too! I’ve been there almost 2 years.

[@catherinegrace2366]

Glad to hear it! Glory to God! Thank you for saying so.

[@Creeper_-gl1lr]

@@catherinegrace2366 glory to deez

[@iamnothale]

How the hell did we went from selling art supplies to FULL ON stealing an ancient piece of history!?

[@abbush2921]

There's a little more to it , than that .

[@davidpalay361]

Next up: time to steal the Declaration of Independence

[@milantarika7219]

Lmfaoo

[@Alexs23743]

PLOT TWIST: Hobby Lobby is owned by a real-life version of Carmen Sandiego.

[@Tinkerbell403]

Except that Green is in it for his personal gain only

[@nslouka90]

Kind of funny that one of Hobby Lobby’s greatest threats is Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones and the Last Ball of Yarn.

[@jonplaud]

@Angus MacFrankenstein I hope so

[@dalethelander3781]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robertwest6350]

IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM... oh wait.....

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

Ironic that the filming was cancelled due to the you know what.

[@debbieviebranz8100]

I love shopping at Hobby Lobby! They are well stocked and more reasonably priced than Joann’s. Plus they are always clean and well organized unlike the dumpster that Joann’s has become. I don’t care one bit about their politics.

[@johnna4487]

Hobby Lobby saved my ass during the first weeks of the pandemic when I had to devise a occupational therapy program after my sons special needs preschool closed. People were screaming all over Facebook because they were still open. Then they were forcibly closed, Walmart quickly ran out of fabric and elastic to make masks, and Joanns only did curbside pickup and wouldn't let people inside. People were screaming again because they were closed and they needed all that fabric just sitting around to make masks.

[@patrickstarofficial5602]

As a employee for hobby lobby the 17 an hour “minimum wage” is misleading… so the way the company divides pay is part time and full time. Only full time employees make 17 an hour the part timers make less, when I was first hired as part time it was 11 but recently (in Florida) Atleast in my store it was bumped to 13 an hour

[@ExtremePacifist]

i am thinking of getting a job at Hobby Lobby, about 20 miles from my home in southeast Florida. Are you still part time and did you get another raise this year?

[@horserocker13]

My thing is, everyone knows they are a religious company. If you know that and shop/ work there you need to be prepared for it having religious ties. Don’t give your money to them if you don’t like them. Same with any company

[@SM-nz9ff]

And on the flip side they have MANY staunch supporters because of their views. This being a predominantly Christian country and especially in the South where they are from. I personally have never shopped there but as an atheist if I ever need a bead or some shit then w/e I don't give a fuck I need the bead and that's that.

[@joerodgers3318]

so well said!

[@Epic_C]

That's the simplest solution. Unfortunately people, especially in the social media age, needs to be offended by something.

[@horserocker13]

@@SM-nz9ff I am atheist as well. But they sell really great fabric 😂

[@horserocker13]

@@joerodgers3318 thank you :)

[@tyleryork840]

One thing to note. You stated they raised the minimum wage of all employees in 2020. That is partially true. Unfortunately, this $17 wage is for full time employees. Part time employees only make $11. Both part and full timers received a raise, thankfully. To the disdain of the part timers, the raise was biased heavily towards full timers. Part time was $10.45 before, and full time was $15 before. $0.55 raise vs $2 raise stings a bit.

[@JL-sm6cg]

THERE it is. I recall applying to work there and was stunned when they said all of that. It was $17 for full time, and I'd be working part time at $11. Needless to say, I didn't go any further.

[@thewhitewolf58]

Also you really have to fight alot in order to be a full time worker.

[@dalethelander3781]

@@thewhitewolf58 Ah! A pecking order. Always good for employee morale.

[@marcusegan8682]

@@thewhitewolf58 Nah, you just need to be competent and wait for someone to leave. Which is happening a lot at my local store.

[@CalebDavidGibson]

Yep! My mom was crushed by such a little raise despite her hard work

[@georgef551]

They have a local controversy in Athol, MA (70 miles West of Boston). They bought an entire strip mall building in a new mixed-use shopping center, where their giant store occupies about 1/4 of it. They will not lease any of the vacant space out to anyone who operates on Sundays, or does not adhere to their religious beliefs. Needless to say which building of the property still has a 100% vacancy rate, excluding their section of it.

[@Mehhl81]

I mean if they own the property they dont have to rent it to anyone they want. It's theirs. If Satan worshippers owned a mall and didn't want to let Hobby Lobby have any space in the mall, I would say the same thing. It's their mall.

[@sillyfrog12]

You know the best thing about being a consumer in a capitalist society? You aren't forced to shop at certain places, people always forget that.

[@NoRegerts]

👍👍👍

[@craighofmann638]

Let us also not forget that for all of Hobby Lobby's "God and Country 1st" bravado, the majority of the items they sell are made in China and other places that use the cheapest labor and sweat shop conditions..

[@wulfmark1963]

Most of the items sold at all these Arts and Craft stores are made in China. Merchandise looks all the same when shopping at different stores.

[@thekivster]

That’s not a contradiction

[@thelasttruepatriot]

Fun fact: People can choose to work in those shops or not, no one forces them to work there.

[@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916]

@@thelasttruepatriot People also forget they don't have to shop there. The irony with these people is ASTOUNDING to say the least. "They push their beliefs onto people" "How dare you not support MY religion outright" The mass psychosis is going to push us into conflict soon.

[@casketman14]

Okay well atleast they’re giving those people jobs lmfao

[@Lucid0000]

I understand the controversy with them staying open in the pandemic and open really quickly but tbh, them selling stuff for school could not be an understatement. They opened one near my area before the pandemic and it really made things easier. As a student studying architecture at my community college, the amount of times I went there for model supplies or pencils made them a godsend since they were nearby. Yes they weren’t completely essential as I’m sure many people could have ordered stuff on Amazon but juggling muitiple classes and having a store nearby that you know will have what you need freed up some space in my mind that would of went to planning ordering supplies at certain times to make sure I can complete parts or project by their due date. Just my experience however.

[@aunderiskerensky2304]

if hobby lobby had been closed this whole time i think i would have snapped for real. i bought SO MUCH FUCKING paint and taught myself over the last year. i would have never found this new skill and been able to nurture it if hobby lobby had been closed, and i'm a fucking pagan. never had issue with hobby lobby, not a damn one. they sell good shit at a good price.

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

Every business is essential. If somehow it's not it would then be inconsequential for them to stay open. Biggest scam on the world ever.

[@jamuraisack5503]

@@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass absolutely. If you're worried that the plague may be lurking in it, don't go in. You're right. The entire "essential" business and employee deal *is* a scam. If you have "critical" jobs, then those people will need their usual support. Their support will need their usual support, and so on. They bottlenecked everyone into large stores by closing small shops, but were worried about you getting a haircut.🙄

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

@@jamuraisack5503 I thought I had seen everything after living through nine eleven ( can't say it with numbers or get censored) this is the latest greatest.

[@jamuraisack5503]

@@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass aww now, don't forget about 1/6. It was totally as bad as 9/11. Totally. 🙄😑

[@michaelherring1944]

The biggest Hobby Lobby controversy I've heard about was their donations to anti-gay groups. Same as Chic-fil-A. I haven't set foot in either one for years.

[@bryanmcwhorter1182]

Compared to most controversies we see out of businesses, this is nothing.

[@catzblu999]

Just wanted to say I really appreciate that you were willing to touch this bomb. You shouldn't have had to have a long disclaimer when your goal has always been to state the documented facts of a story but the internet is filled with people who will reach for the worst interpretation of a statement every time. This is my favorite channel on KZbin and has been for the last few years. This is coming from someone who mostly watched gaming and music videos and now suddenly an educational channel is his favorite. Thank you for not being afraid to discuss stories surrounding extremely touchy subjects so we can all be better informed about the history of a company.

[@samuelpayne2185]

This video couldn't have come out at a better time, a Hobby Lobby has just opened up in my town across from where I work, so this is quite interesting.

[@nikesfake2259]

“What could something a company does be as confrontational as he’s getting to?” *RELIGION* Sounds about right

[@ninji5226]

They are a private company with individual beliefs, cant really argue with what they do at that point. I'm not religious in the least but I can at least respect or understand the stances they take. Don't like the ads, don't look at them. Don't like the store, do your shopping on Sunday. I personally love the store, its full of unique items and its a treasure trove if you make your own Halloween costumes.

[@JamVar]

When you mentioned them resisting the business shutdowns, I was about to go looking for a photo I took of a local Hobby Lobby's COVID sign when they and a bunch of other stores closed in April last year. Next thing I know, 11:38...BAM the same picture's on screen! I totally forgot I uploaded it to my old Shutterstock Contributor account LOL I dunno why I find that so cool, but I just had to share; I distinctly remember the eerie feeling walking around a mostly shuttered plaza @ 8pm. Great video, as always btw!

[@salvadorvaldez2001]

Is it true one can make money from shutterstock?

[@JamVar]

@@salvadorvaldez2001 Yes, if you produce a massive amount of work consistently. I'm talking hundreds of photos a month, unless you get lucky and one image gets insanely popular. Long story short, if you're dedicated and know how to handle a camera, you can certainly make decent money, but it will take lots of work including shooting, transferring, editing, posting, and tagging. But, there are plenty of resources online to help out, as well.

[@lpnp9477]

Are you saying that's the photo you personally took? That's pretty cool if so

[@JamVar]

@@lpnp9477 Yup! I can actually peg it as the night of 21 April 2020 at 7:56 P.M. Took it with a Nikon D5100. Mental!

[@lpnp9477]

@@JamVar very much so! You're a certain level of famous now, or at least your work is

[@geargone]

As a former employee of this company I can honestly say that it's mistreatment of there employees should be more common knowledge.

[@Planag7]

I make sure to tell people that all the time they're foolish belief in their cult is very apparent and it does trickle down I remember my brother was threatened to get fired if he didn't act and walk straighter because they thought and suspected he was gay thankfully through arbitration and we were able to get a settlement out of it but the dude was buried at the time and it really upset him that they did this rather openly. Sadly the stupid thing is that he still shops there so I don't know what to tell him

[@jordanwilliams9300]

@@Planag7 omg that's so awful 😞

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

“Foolish cult” Would you say that about Jews or Muslims I wonder?

[@MrLurchMedia]

@@WhiskeyPatriot Would you?

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

@@MrLurchMedia Yes.

[@jdsaenz616]

I just find it’s petty that people scold businesses for what they do. If you don’t like it, just don’t go!

[@jimdavis5849]

I love going in this store. The prices, selection and environment are wonderful. I am not religious in any way, but I think this is a private company and they have the right to their own corporate culture. The alleged freedoms we have in this country are shrinking daily. If you don't like a store don't go there.

[@CityOfNashville]

The profits going to this store go to stealing culturally significant pieces from other countries, donations to groups trying to strip women and LGBTQ rights away, and pushing religion into schools as well as the general public. Contributing to this store is a big yikes

[@vaderladyl]

I think they are over priced actually,

[@jimdavis5849]

@@vaderladyl I just get stuff when they do 40% off in that department. There regular prices might be overpriced.

[@Rebjacjul]

It’s my favorite craft store, for sure!

[@1OO_k]

Thank you! Finally someone talking sense instead of the usual leftist prattle I've seen in this comment section.

[@SES4L]

I’m just waiting for a devoutly Muslim owned business to get similar negative press…

[@robgronotte1]

Not many of those in this country, certainly none as large as HL.

[@WhiskeyPatriot]

Wonder if they sell pork or pictures of the Prophet?

[@maxturnacioglu8514]

What is that supposed to mean? There are plenty of instances of hate crimes on Muslim and Jewish family businesses, just not the size of Hobby Lobby. Large Jewish-owned businesses are still the subject of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

[@svgenterprises1]

My favorite thing about this video.... I STILL don't know your political views! A solid breakdown. You are one of my favorite channels on the tubes and one of the only ones as soon as I get a notification of a new video I stop what I am doing to watch. Keep the good content coming!

[@angi3r0se]

@@tynj4173 mere clump of cells go bye bye

[@midzycase4003]

same omg

[@certifiedduck9124]

@@tynj4173 Same haha, he had just said contraceptives before an ad started when i saw your comment and i was worried

[@DTPIIXART]

I buy from Hobby Lobby because they have the one product I need for my business that I have not found a suitable replacement for yet... and that is their yarn inventory. Their "I Love This Yarn" brand comes in a ton of different colorways that no other brand can match. Also the yarn is great quality. Yarn is almost the only thing I buy from them. I'm not religious so I couldn't care less about their religion or their practices. As long as they keep that yarn line up, I'm in.

[@tavern2468]

You do you baby girl

[@Bear-pw7nu]

The way it should be!

[@DTPIIXART]

@@tavern2468 ok cat turd

[@jeffhooper3447]

You don't need to be religious to think hobby lobby and Chik fil a are absolutely fucked

[@jeffhooper3447]

​@@Bear-pw7nu nah anyone who donates to Planned Parenthood can go get stuffed.

[@instaglam7508]

I’m obsessed with hobby lobby I literally can spend hours walking the isles getting inspirations and creative ideas

[@cowboy_levi6283]

I liked going there as a kid to look at the colorful materials

[@tylerosborne4980]

Not on Sunday you can't

[@rokamayonoh3rt362]

They have the closest crafts store with a big stock, most of their pens and stuff are pretty okay from what i've seen

[@MeOhMyOh2324]

@@tylerosborne4980 good for them! That’s their right and I know their employees love that!

[@droppinloot4960]

@@tylerosborne4980 are they closed on Sundays like Chick-fil-A?

[@essidus]

I'm always so impressed with how gracefully you manage to walk the controversial lines

[@saxxonpike]

For real. I really like the sincere presentation. While I do not shop at Hobby Lobby personally, I also think that this video does well at educating us all what they're about, for better or worse. It's unfortunate that the disclaimer feels necessary, though.

[@colt5189]

@@saxxonpike I notice every company that upsets a liberal is considered a "controversial" company.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@colt5189 you're here because you're upset it's controversial. Facts over feelings.

[@Chrisy7]

@@colt5189 what about Nike? NFL? Disney? Google/Facebook/Twitter? Confirmation bias brain rot.

[@colt5189]

@@BleedForTheWorld I'd call Nike a "controversial" company because they inject themselves into controversy like supporting people who kneel to the National Anthem. But the liberal that runs this channel would never make a video calling them controversial.

[@eurekahope5310]

I support businesses making choices as to what they sell and how they will run their business, as long as they follow the law. If I don't like their religious or political stances, I can choose to shop elsewhere. This reminds me of the Pride Month pandering of businesses in the US, but the same companies changing their logos and websites did not follow suit in their Middle Eastern markets. These companies were seeking popular approval not standing on principle. Whether or not you like their principles, at least we know where Hobby Lobby stands.

[@jliscorpio]

My husband works for a large worldwide firm that changes its logo for Pride month. He has worked for them in the USA, UK, and the UAE. We are gay and my husband is on the board. Sad to say is that his firm changes their logo (in North America) so they get a better ranking from HRC. They, in reality, don't care one lick about LGBTQ+ issues whatsoever. They only care about their standing with HRC. We try to always remember that about them.

[@InfectedChris]

Corporate pandering during pride month is just awful. "We support the gays! (except in the Middle East, China, or any other market which does horrible things to members of that community) Please buy our coffee!" It really is a joke with those companies.

[@GordonRamseyIsMyLifestyle]

Thats true and I feel like corporate transparency is always super important, despite it sounding like a oxymoron 🙃

[@slimecorn]

Yeah like I'd rather hobby be open christian nationalists so I know not to spend a dime there.

[@CIOZimbabwe]

@@slimecorn Your money isn't needed. Hobby lobby will make money without you.

[@behindthespotlight7983]

not “religious” It’s Christianity. And it’s why America succeeded for the first 200 years. It’s also why (since the 1960’s) pretty much everything is going downhill.

[@UnbreakableYT]

Religion as a whole is something that's been holding us back as a species imo it's just obsolete at this point

[@RyleesQualm]

as a once hobby lobby employee, if you don't have a good manager, LEAVE NOW. THE DISTRICT MANAGERS ARE THE WORST. NEVER WORK THERE, MOST OTHER PLACES WILL TREAT YOU BETTER AT THE SAME MINIMUM WAGE PRICES

[@otakubullfrog1665]

I've noticed that a lot of my favorite large companies are privately held. I think going public tends to cause aspects of the business that made it great to be killed by committee and that having a guiding vision behind everything is preferable.

[@thewhitewolf58]

Its usually a souless board being run by shareholders that murders the companies identity because every aspect has to be max profit or else. Think this is one of the few private companies that i semi hate because they get too loud with their politics.

[@fartherdude5062]

That’s why sheetz is amazing!

[@TheGameGetterKuzuri]

That's why Walmart is a soulless box wearhouse

[@michaelmclaughlin261]

...and, going one step further, being bought by a hedge fund is usually the kiss of death.

[@thewhitewolf58]

@@michaelmclaughlin261 btw what is a hedge fund anyway? All i know is that a parent being a hedge fund manager means that character is rich.

[@rogerrenfrow]

BTW The Gilgamesh Dream Tablet is being returned to Iraq tomorrow.

[@Totallyking]

Way too important for it to be in HL museum

[@AlexKS1992]

Where it’ll be destroyed by terrorists.

[@youreverydaynobody]

Where it will be promptly destroyed.

[@hexoticace8667]

Aaaand its gone.

[@Totallyking]

Yeah I mean ideally there could be a better place haha

[@breanaclemmons8758]

I just worked for the company for two weeks it was massive chaos. It was nothing like the impression that you get as a shopping customer, trust me! I am a Christian as well Sr & Jr Green, and I’m going to expose you just like the Bible tells us to do when we see a another Christian doing wrong. so I thought Hobby Lobby would be a wonderful environment, simply because it was always pleasant listening to inspirational music as I shopped, and I just felt good about the atmosphere… love the idea that they closed reverence to God on Sundays. I always used to joke with the other nurses and say that hobby lobby was my retirement job. Why did I find out very quick, that Hobby lobby wears a façade. I worked 15 years in the nursing field, I have a four-year degree so I’m definitely no dummy! I can see through the smokescreen, and I saw through hobby lobby‘s very quickly. I just wanted something part time, because I am tamping down and preparing for retirement in the next two years. I am a very patient person, (no pun intended). Everything at Hobby Lobby started out a little unprofessional straight from the beginning. In what should have been a professional interview, was me waiting 30 minutes at the front of the store for the manager to finally come talk to me. When the store manager finally did arrive, the interview took and all but 10 minutes, in the front of the store, in front of the registers, with distraction of customers coming and going. For 8 minutes he talked all about himself, his past, etc.… Very weird for an interview. 2 minutes he talked about what God had done in his life, then offered me a position at $14.50 an hour. I took the position Even though that was nowhere even near what I was making as a nurse, I did expect with my past experience in retail and with a bachelors degree at the minimum $16, But I I knew this was just a retirement job and in 90 days I possibly get a little bit of a raise anyway. I took the position, started the next day, that night I walked into the back where they receive shipment, boxes were stacked everywhere to the ceiling you couldn’t even walk. As I continue to work throughout the day I realize that the store was quite chaotic, lack of communication between employees, manager, assistant managers, wow! 2 days into the job I walk in to find out that the store manager who had hired me, just abruptly quit with no notice; after being there for 10 years! The second week and my 3rd day there I was talking about 90 day evaluation‘s, one the employee said, we don’t get evaluations, I was like you don’t get evaluations, then how do you get a 90 raise? She said there was no such thing so I mentioned it to one of the assistant managers, She proceeded to laugh and said, “we don’t get raises here.” She said, “we start out at 13 for part time and that’s where we stay even if you’re here 10 years, you don’t get a raise”. I could not believe what I was hearing. So I said, “you mean I will make $14.50 Forever unless I go full-time?” She said, “that’s impossible, everyone makes $13 an hr, part time.” So come to find out, I’m really making $13 an hour, with no potential merits for a raise. So basically their employees never get rewarded! So to make a long story short, I’m finding out a lot of things that I was not told. The whole façade of “it’s such a great place to work, you make above minimum wage”, is a lie. When you walk into the store you see this great big banner that says $18 an hour for full-time, $13 and up for part time. I’d like to know what the “up” part is. ? Basically it’s just 13 an hour for part time forever! so as I’m looking at the schedule, I notice, everybody on there Is PT, with the exception of only 2 full-time people in the entire store, the manager, and the bookkeeper. I look at the hours and they have part-time people working full-time hours, without full-time pay. So you get the picture? They’re working everybody basically 35 hours a week for $13 an hour. So why would you need to hire people full-time and pay $18 an hour, when you can get part-time people to work full-time hours and pay them only 13 an hour but tell them since they’re not working 40 hours a week they can only make 13 an hour because they’re part time hours….it’s all a scam and a big lie. So just beware of people there’s no potential for advancement, no potential for a raise… You really think I’m gonna work for $13 an hour standing on my feet, minus 1- 30 minute break? Not happening, if I were going to do that I would go back to making $35 an hour. Now there’s a lot of other things that I could mention here that shocked me as hobby lobby supposed to be based on Christian values, but I’ll just save that and let God handle it from here. It is a very deceiving place and I am very disappointed in Mr. Green Sr $ Jr, shame on you!! I’m not surprised They get most of their goods from overseas, that’s where most of the sweat shops are, working people to death so they can get fat pockets while their employees can barely put food on the table let alone ever have a family vacation…they have the same mentality. Mr. Senior and Junior green don’t you Barth Christian family values to me, if you care then you start paying your part-time employees what they’re worth.

[@timmytommy2921]

"Christian values" has always been a thin veil used by truly awful people.

[@adewilliam9047]

Very interesting and insightful story. A fun one to read, too. Thank you for sharing this!

[@moodyvol89]

Are you sure this wasn’t just a very poorly ran branch and not a reflection of the company as a whole? Managers can run a branch in the ground while lying to there superiors until they ultimately get caught.

[@jerryhorn4697]

Congratulations, Breana! You just learned the bitter truth about ultra-religious business executives. They are HYPOCRITES and EXPLOITERS! They use their Godly charade to profit big-time off the misery of their underpayed, undervalued employees and the Third World sweatshop slaves making the products they sell.

[@PapaVanTwee5]

@@moodyvol89 That was my first thought. I work for a retailer, and go to all the stores to fix technical issues. Some stores are outstanding (and surprisingly I have to visit rarely) others are a complete mess (and get a lot of my attention). And it all comes down to the manager. Good managers are hard to find, and it looks like they had a real stinker at your store.

[@FrancesBedoya89]

My brother applied for a cashier position at a Hobby Lobby when he was in high school and was straight up told he'd most likely be hired as a stock person as cashier positions are reserved for women. I can't make this stuff up. Needless to say he was no longer interested in working for Hobby Lobby so he politely declined.

[@MisterKewlz]

based.

[@ginny8898]

Well, somebody made it up, because there are male cashiers at Hobby Lobby.

[@FrancesBedoya89]

@Boris Sitnikoff "strong points"? 🙄 On what basis other than the fact that he was a guy... None of his experience at the time was in stocking/warehouse/back of house operations... he would have been no asset to that business.

[@meatbleed]

@@FrancesBedoya89 if you breathe and have limbs, chances are you're an asset stocking shelves

[@kimyona9746]

The hobby lobby near me has male cashiers and a lady manager

[@ricrey431]

My dispute with (at least my local) Hobby Lobby is never getting on full time, even after two and a half years working with them. Although I had the job title as Stockman, I only helped stocking anything when the other guys needed a hand. What my actually job was was janitor. Anyhow, it was less about how well you did your job, and more about how close you are to management. I was one of two, maybe three guys, that actually broke a sweat on a regular basis, yet I got passed up for full time employment several times. A couple of them were those that only worked a few months (one was just three months). That's when I gave my notice and left. This was a few months before the whole covid thing. Shortly there after, four of their other best employees quit, as well. Keeping in touch with a couple that still work there, they've said it's a shit show, a joke now. Seeing how they thought me cleaning up some awful messes that nobody in their right mind should cause let along clean up wasn't worth a "full time" status of 35 hours a week, I won't bother working for them again - especially as a janitor.

[@annoneemoose]

Every job promotes people close to management. The lesson here is to make your boss like you.

[@b64771]

Good on you for sticking around as long as you did. Sorry it didn’t work out for you in the end. I also find it extremely hard to climb social ladders .. I just can’t and won’t kiss ass. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@JL-sm6cg]

I applied once when they raised their wage high enough for me to live on, but it was part time first, so I turned it down.

[@dansanfrisco]

You have to assert yourself and let superiors know you want to move up. Just working hard is a quick way to get yourself "volun-told" into working on your days off when others call out sick.

[@josephgioielli]

The last law firm I worked at (reception, data entry, document prep) was a part time position shared between me and another person. My boss flat out told me he didn't want another full time employee.

[@nathangursky4628]

I graduated from a small Christian college in Rochester. I’ll never forget, sitting at commencement, the announcement that this guy's son was giving our speech. Literally all he did was advertise his store. It was upsetting. Love your channel company man! I look forward to new content every Wednesday!

[@unicornlana]

rochester, what state if you don’t mind me asking??

[@jackip2ava]

Yeah right! Lol

[@nathangursky4628]

@@jackip2ava huh?

[@nathangursky4628]

@@unicornlana New York. Roberts Wesleyan College. I was so lost why the CEO of a retail store was our speaker haha. RIT booked Bill Nye- we were all upset

[@ambercrombie789]

@@nathangursky4628 Sounds you have pretty thin skin. Not buying your line either.

[@lynnewilliams542]

Craft stores are essential. I know a nurse who said getting stuff from michaels saved her sanity during covid. She likes to knit

[@lindatexas5906]

You can buy knitting supplies at Wal-Mart, cheaper too, and of course more stores available. I only shop there when they have clearance sales!

[@sandaramoore9660]

@ Linda Texas…You can’t compare Walmart’s yarn section to Hobby Lobby’s. Hobby Lobby has 3 to 4 full isles of yarn and their is no comparison to the selection. Walmart has three-fourths of one isle…while the prices may be higher the selection is much greater. A lot of people, including myself resorted to crafting to maintain our sanity during the pandemic that still is going on. People started a home based business relating to crafts to replaced or supplement missing incomes.

[@Rae_is_Bae]

@@lindatexas5906 also why should walmart get all the money and what is safer about everybody being in the same stores..?

[@Jorgewalt24]

If employers should let the workers have their own beliefs then schools should let children have their own beliefs

[@professoroak1920]

Hobby Lobby has inspired my Halloween costume this year. I'm going as Santa because I was so afraid when I walked in and saw over half the store was filled with Christmas stuff in July.

[@sandrataylorfatloss3201]

Cause it sells out way before December lol

[@branon6565]

If that made you feel afraid, then you're one of the weakest cowards I've ever heard of, and you deserve to be pointed out, mocked, ridiculed, and bullied on a daily basis....

[@cgimichaelmyers2806]

@@sandrataylorfatloss3201 No they don’t sell any Halloween merchandise.

[@sandrataylorfatloss3201]

@@cgimichaelmyers2806 I was talking about the Christmas stuff lol that most of it sells out before Christmas since she was saying how it’s overwhelming seeing since July

[@RyanDrake371]

People worry to much about other people’s business. I’m an atheist yet I shop at hobby lobby. If you don’t like their beliefs that much, then don’t shop there or work for them. Otherwise, set your differences aside and continue as normal.

[@justink1985]

This.

[@Katzelle3]

The biggest problem I could see is that the bible teaches christians not to flaunt their beliefs in public because that is what the hypocrites do and christians should be above that In fact you should be celebrating Christmas in private Christians should also see the separation of church and state as a good thing In other words the Hobby Lobby fellow is not following the teachings properly

[@cxri9454]

Ironic that you say that. Hobby lobby should takr notes and stop being religious cucks who cant mind their business and let their employees do what their paid to do. Without all the extra. But i agree, ppl can just not shop there. I still do cause idc enough not to go. But they do way too much for this god bull

[@nahor88]

I feel the same way about Chik-fil-a... people made such a shit about their stance on the LGBTQ community.

[@cxri9454]

@@nahor88 I'm sure they do. If you were black and they held racist views you would too. If you were white and they said being white is wrong and bad, you would too

[@amherst88]

Have to say, as a female, I've felt very uncomfortable shopping in this store -- there is obviously a culture of the man is the manager and the women are the subordinate cashiers (right in line with their religious heritage) -- I'm no longer a customer.

[@piratabuki4298]

My store has had a female store manager for the almost 3 years I have worked there. We are the top store in our district. Our co-manager is male and all of our assistant managers and customer service managers are female.

[@amherst88]

@@piratabuki4298 You might be interested in the actual statistics of how infrequent that is -- doesn't change the prevailing store culture.

[@TCM1231]

It’s amazing how simply being Christian and expressing Christian views is deemed as “offensive”

[@brentb.9243]

They’re a private company, on purpose. Since they don’t have a monopoly on crafting supplies, I think it’s fair to say that if you don’t like their business decisions, whether in or out of their retail stores, don’t shop there.

[@tiphermartin6779]

I agree on every part except for the part about not paying for reproductive health stuff through the company health insurance. But with everything else, I personally find it weird but they are free to do as they please.

[@lustthenlovethendivorce8900]

Yup. And also, if u dont like their ads, dont read them.

[@lustthenlovethendivorce8900]

@@tiphermartin6779 y do u need mouring after kill pill? Just keep ur legs closed or wear condum

[@w1swh1]

Good point! I will be sticking with Michaels after watching this video

[@RBMGamer]

@@lustthenlovethendivorce8900 This question feels like bait for an argument but i'll answer anway. We(my wife and I) used the pill once because we didnt realize our condom broke until after it was too late. We got the morning after pill just to make sure that she didn't get pregnant. We did wear a condom, and expecting a married couple to not have sex is just ignorant.

[@emarskineel]

“Even the Supreme Court we’re divided” When are they not divided?

[@Menaceblue3]

That's good. It means the actual definition of what is justice is often times hazy and stuck between a gray area.

[@SRW_]

@@Menaceblue3 Sounds like a night at the pub

[@colin1818]

@@Menaceblue3 - No. What it more likely means is that we have activist judges who feel empowered to legislate from the bench rather than just following what the law says. "Emanations and penumbras" from the text creating totally new Constitutional rights. That kind of thing.

[@neeneko]

@@colin1818 eh, it is less that they are activist, and more lawmakers have a habit of passing 'wink and nod' bills that depend on not being challenged in court. The rights were always there, the people in charge just had a 'well of course we did not include THOSE people!' attitude.

[@wdmc2012]

Generally about half of Supreme Court decisions are 9-0 or 8-1, but these results are typically on very narrow and uncontroversial cases. One such case this year involved a wife requesting police do a wellness check on her husband, and the police taking the opportunity to seize all the husband's guns without permission from either individual or a warrant from a judge. The court unanimously ruled this a violation of 4th amendment rights, not a very hard decision.

[@rosanekirinus12]

There’s room for everyone, including Hobby Lobby. Shop them or not, up to you. You’re a private person, do what you want. They’re a private company, they can do what they want. Of course as long as no one is getting hurt.

[@knirpslyn2107]

But people are literally being hurt by them soooooo....

[@mosessupposes2571]

I’m just grateful they were required to return the stolen Iraq antiquities that they had somehow “acquired.”

[@pantherplatform]

Belief in God isn't religion. Counting beads, reciting phrases over and over, kissing the foot of a statue, or anything that you do to try to help God save you is religion.

[@pantherplatform]

Like God needs your help...

[@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr]

Props to you Company Man for doing your best to be objective with each video and the respective companies controversies. I feel like a lot of KZbinrs will take advantage of such toxicity in order to boost their channel's views. Good for you to keep it level and informational.

[@colt5189]

Notice how he's not going to make a video calling every company who changes their logo to the gay logo as being "Controversial". He's clearly a liberal who's personally upset by Hobby Lobby. This video is mostly nonsense.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

​@@colt5189 you're so out of touch. Company Man can't even say how the founder and CEO absolutely came from a privileged background at a time when black people were not allowed to obtain a mortgage. He misses this key point among others and it's honestly not shocking considering he's still young and may not know a lot about class history.

[@colt5189]

@@BleedForTheWorld Let's just assume what you are saying is true, what does any of that have to do with Hobby Lobby and their CEO? Answer is NOTHING. You're trying to inject made up controversy into companies you don't like.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@colt5189 it has a lot to do with the company's founder. Without the history of black oppression in America, the likes of Hobby Lobby wouldn't exist as they are. I'm putting history into its objective and proper context.

[@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr]

@@colt5189 I personally think it's a little presumptuous to determine a content creator's personal politics when disclosing in a video their attempts at neutrality. Rainbow capitalism is certainly a real and disingenuous marketing tactic used by a lot of companies, but not covering the ridiculously long list of companies that do this means he is not only in a certain camp but also specifically feels a certain way? That's a pretty huge leap. It sounds like to me (and this I'll admit is a stretch) that you are upset and angry. If you are why? Did someone hurt you? Was your 2020 particularly rough? Are politics really the thing making you upset, or could it be your lot in life, and how well you are doing physically, mentally, and emotionally? Do you really want to feel this way? Maybe you might need someone to talk to professionally and help you deal be it a therapist or life coach. Would be better than fighting strangers in the comment section of youtube channel that covers random companies factual history and practices.

[@BIOHAZARD_V2]

I support their right to their beliefs as a private company. I can understand why people wouldn't like them, but they should be free to have their policies.

[@plzleavemealone9660]

Well, not when it comes to healthcare laws.

[@krysila7722]

@Frederick Shull I don't understand why Healthcare has to do with someone's workplace. It should've never been set-up like that.

[@doublecontralto818]

I absolutely refuse to patronize Hobby Lobby. Not only as an LGBTQ+ person but also as a Christian - many of their actions strike me as being antithetical to the actual teachings of Jesus...

[@mchenrynick]

That's why I avoid Chick Fil-A and even an car oil change place here, which prints biblical messages on the receipts.

[@imnotracistbut-9559]

Interesting fact: no one has ever or will ever be offended by something as benign as a newspaper ad celebrating a holiday or the religious meaning behind it. No one. Ever.

[@bluejedi723]

When I worked at Joanne's Fabrics, Hobby Lobby was about a block away from us. We were constantly slammed on Sundays because Hobby Lobby was closed.

[@Bandstand]

Went dummy on the thumbnail there 🔥

[@bcnicholas123]

Lol

[@AdolfSpitler]

Bro u r everywhere

[@caraccident5357]

What does that mean?

[@Legion849]

@@caraccident5357 It means nothing it's a verified user begging for attention and likes

[@cliffpaul2483]

no

[@DungeonStudio]

I'm not religious myself, but I stand by their freedom of speech. And from what I see in all this is the family saying 'this is what WE like. If you don't like it, we don't mind' Other stores to choose from, even on Sundays. As for Jewish items not being sold, their choice as well. I'm sure many Jewish retailers hate having to sell Christmas items in their stores, and there's no law saying they HAVE TO. And no problem for the orthodox ones that simply don't. The whole contraception deal I don't think ANY company should be responsible for. If one's smart enough to work, be a good employee, save their money and start a family down the road - or not. That's the individuals decision. If they want to buy contraceptives with their pay, that's their right. And if they want to be subsidized, get their own insurance provider that will do so. As to the museum and all, again - the family seem to like it, and may educate and inspire others that want to get interested in religion and it's history. As to the artifacts legality and/or legitimacy, I think ANY museum or art gallery encounters that at some point. And I'd say 9 times out of 10 it's purely unintentional. And as long as it isn't being desecrated, modified, or pushed upon anyone, all the power to the Green's then. I may not agree with what they believe in, but I do respect what they stand for. And as long as THEY like it, they shouldn't have to kowtow to anyone. Those that don't like what they like - don''t have to go there ever in their lives.

[@sherrills.2332]

I have never been in a Hobby Lobby store as not much of a craft or hobby woman...BUT I have GREAT AWE & RESPECT for closing on Sundays, being TRUE to their Christian✝️ (not "religious") convictions! AND their giving is inspiring!! 💯 SUPPORT their actions AND I plan to visit a store soon😁

[@ELDELD]

When I needed a neurosurgeon, I didn’t care what his religious beliefs were. When I needed home decor, I didn’t care what Dollar General’s beliefs were either. Just wanted that $3 sign! 🤣

[@bythegods5683]

That exchange of money is directly influencing your community because they have power. Ignoring it doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect.

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

The thing is they do care. They care so much they restrict their employees and buys newspaper ads about how much they care. If they where christen and never talked about it I would not care.

[@ReddieBeaty]

Engaging in commerce is often going to have crappy moral Implications It who cares enough to learn but not enough to change their behavior. Dollar general aids in destroying communities.

[@robgronotte1]

I wouldn't trust a neurosurgeon who I knew was religious.

[@ninjatortise8958]

Well I wish other people thought the same way as you..

[@BofusTeefus]

Always trying to stay as impossibly objective as possible. This is why Company Man is one of my favorite channels.

[@TheSweetSpirit]

I’m a Christian and I don’t think even those contraceptives should be withheld from health insurance if it’s already being provided. But I’ve never felt particularly strong about abortion one way or another. There are just too many variables, so I largely abstain from supporting either side for the most part.

[@jacobh674]

Not a real Christian then. And the government forcing businesses to provide employees with something that goes against their religion is unacceptable. Idk why the employer even needs to give insurance at all

[@SpacemanTheo]

@@jacobh674 riiight, so some corporate ass kisser gets to decree who is and isn't Christian. Didn't know you were the holy pope. But incase you forgot, your holiness, this isn't Venice Italy in the 18th century. State and church are separate and that insurance provision was voted in by the people. The church can't override that has they have no control over state. If the business can't 'morally comply' with such conditions, then they can't be a business.

[@gregbell9839]

I'm not a Christian, but I've been a fan of Hobby Lobby for quite some time. I'm a modeler, and theirs is a store that I can rely on to have what I need in order to partake in my hobbies. Now, the First Amendment to the Constitution says, "freedom of religion", but gives no context as to the meaning. The meaning is in a document called The Federalist Papers. As it turns out, freedom of religion just means the government cannot set up its own church and require every American citizen to be a practicing member. That's it. No one has the freedom to force anyone into their religion, no one has the freedom to completely shut down any religion, and no one has the freedom to force followers of a religion to engage in any activity that would be against their religious tenets. (Also, while Christianity has been the largest religion in the U.S, we're NOT a Christian nation. Any claims to this are false. "Separation of church and State" falls into this whole thing, essentially making any requirement for being in government say something along the lines of "you MUST be Christian" (some States have this requirement) to be completely illegal and a violation of the Constitution. Not sorry, Christians.) So Christians don't have the right to tell people they cannot get an abortion because their religion says it's a sin (it actually doesn't - you'll not find it in the 10 Commandments; maybe as an offshoot of "thou shalt not kill", but the Bible doesn't say "abortions are a sin" anywhere), and non-Christians don't have the right to tell Christians they have to allow abortions. Simple as that. More-so, when a privately-owned Christian-based company says, "we can't follow your propagandist mandate because it's against our religion," the government can't step in and say, "you're going to shut down anyway because we said so." And honestly, no one should have shut down. Not one business. Take a look at the events that unfolded since November 2019. There were all sorts of mandates put into place (every single one illegally, I might add) in order to "stop the spread". Guess what? It didn't work. Everything should have stayed open anyway. Here it is now, almost THREE years since c0v1d was unleashed on the world (in case you forgot, it was released by the Chinese government to quell the uprisings happening in Beijing, but it spread faster than they thought it would), and not only did "the curve" NEVER flatten, but things just kept getting worse and worse in spite of ALL of the tyrannical mandates put into affect. So in the aspect of Hobby Lobby refusing to shut down, they were right. They did the right thing there. But the museum? What the hell were they thinking, if at all? Like I said, they're the only place I can rely on to have my model supplies. You can't get model kits, paints, or tools at Walmart anymore. And Toys~R~Us doesn't exist anymore. If I can wait for shipping, I'll get my stuff online. If not, it's off to Hobby Lobby I go. Despite their wackadoo cultist cling to a religion based on lies and theft. Go ahead, look it up. You know you want to. It started out as a literal underground cult in ancient Rome. Stole EVERYTHING from all of the religions at the time in order to make conversion easier. It never would have gone farther than that if it weren't for Emperor Constantine being a huge tool and complete moron. But that's a story for another time.

[@dubiousragdid8628]

Don’t like them? Don’t shop there. Don’t work there. Simple as that.

[@boll2.094]

Ikr? This applies to all businesses. If you don’t like them, don’t support them.

[@cxri9454]

Yep. And they can just go out of business 😄

[@dubiousragdid8628]

@@cxri9454 if that’s the outcome from their policies then that’s on them. But don’t tell someone how to run their business if it’s legal and within their own personal values.

[@cxri9454]

@@dubiousragdid8628 I didnt say they sould tell them how to conduct business.

[@NickNitro]

I bought oil molding clay from them once a year for the past 20 years, never have I cared about this company beyond it. that said, just starting the video and I'm interested in the details lol

[@dabillya6845]

you are still supporting them.

[@paulajay8525]

What do you do with molding clay once a year for 20 years?

[@kan50805]

@@paulajay8525 he probably was trying o sculpt something out of it

[@clvrswine]

20 years? Yet you have an anime avatar? Grow up.

[@NickNitro]

@@clvrswine I treat people with respect, work hard at a job I love & I'm married. What I do for fun isn't really your business, also if you need to be rude to another without provocation, I recommend you to take your own advice.

[@raycenteno7698]

I really don't care if Hobby Lobby practices their faith. And I really don't care if they put Christian ads during the holidays. I also don't know too much about them. Most of these claims these people made are just speculation and hear say. What I do know is I finally went to a Hobby Lobby (didn't even know they existed) about 3 months ago and it was pretty cool. I was so amazed to the point these 2 lil old ladies laughed at me. Hey, what can I say, I was impressed.

[@barryallenflash1]

I worked for Hobby Lobby and I will say this-as a whole, it's a really nice company to work for...HOWEVER, being a Christian and working for a Christian company, it has it's issues. Due to the discrimination act, we can't just say "no" to anyone that is not a Christian! I live in Washington state and you better believe our (D) governor closed EVERYTHING, including HL!! Yeah, he's not too smart! You better believe we were upset!! I'm being nice here. Anyway, filing for unemployment was new for me AND a lot of my co-workers, but if we wanted to get paid, we did it. You'd think David would've figured out a way to "take care" of his employees other than just kicking them to the curb...I digress. Finally got back to work, had to wear the stupid face diaper and count people as they entered and left the store, using a tablet. I also wiped down ALL the carts before customers could use them....stupid I know! Can you guess my job title? Yep, lead stockman! I still visit the store, I had a falling out with the manager and left...another story, another time. Sorry for the novel, but just wanted to share from an employee perspective.

[@tball5677]

Every business is "essential" when it puts food on the table.

[@123goofyking]

@MercenaryToaster Literally wtf???

[@EpicEric2002]

@MercenaryToaster she probably just a 15year old white bi,pan girl that finds everything offensive

[@Uvuv6969]

@@EpicEric2002 Mk so I agree with the white part but bi? I think lesbian fits it more (totally not because I don’t want to be associated with these people)

[@weegle.]

@@EpicEric2002 what does sexual orientation have to do with that

[@InsaneH]

@@weegle. True

[@crouchb15]

Blackrock: why they're hated

[@effy4619]

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[@symbol8246]

Who or what is blackrock? Coal industry in oklahoma?

[@SnakeEmperor14]

I’ve been working at Hobby Lobby for almost two years now and really enjoyed this video. Subscribed

[@3emkay937]

Worked at hobby lobby for my first job for around a year or so. Worst job I’ve ever worked at, managers were assholes, and everything about the work was more complicated than it needed to be because of the old fashioned style.

[@ExtremePacifist]

Jesus is not complicated, Jesus loves you. he gets you.

[@Regi62]

Totally, who wasn't accidentally stolen a centuries old relic on the advice of people you don't really trust?

[@JamesPhieffer]

They bought it. Their mistake was in not properly investigating the provenance. I cannot think of a case since the 19th century or maybe earlier where a museum was directly involved in the illegitimate removal of an item. But as the ethics behind museum collections have evolved, the necessity of ascertaining the full details behind how a seller came to possess an item, and any previous transactions back to the initial "discovery" (for lack of a better term) has become more important. And yet there are still properties being bought and sold that were stolen from Jewish owners by the Nazi's, as well as items out of the Middle East with dubious histories. But there is a difference between stealing something, and purchasing something that was, or may have been, stolen.

[@jamesslick4790]

The British museum? 😜

[@onyxgrnr666]

@@jamesslick4790 what about it

[@JamesPhieffer]

@@jamesslick4790 Could be... #ICanNeitherConfirmNorDeny...

[@dalethelander3781]

I have the Sword of Charlemagne.

[@joeykelly5642]

Thanks for being objective - you did a great job of presenting both sides of each issue. For the last controversy, just keep in mind that the line between “essential” and “non-essential” was pretty vague… In the end, it screwed over small businesses and left most large companies completely unscathed. Seemed more like a big money tool than a real precaution

[@Raskolnikov70]

It was beyond vague, it was insane. States were closing their beaches and parks but keeping big-box stores open. In some places you couldn't buy garden seeds and tools, but hey the potato chip aisle is wide open. Hobby Lobby got caught up in all that, and it didn't help being a multi-state business while each individual state was setting its own rules and constantly changing them.

[@fartherdude5062]

@@Raskolnikov70 and honestly it’s objectively reasonable for hobby lobby to want to stay open. A business like that with people couped up in their homes? But yea I just feel so bad for the small businesses the only small businesses that were able to get out without much issue were repair shops, distribution and grocery stores.

[@sor3999]

It wasn't that vague at least in California. It was practically anything and everything. I think the only places that had to stay closed the longest were probably gyms, in-door dining, movie theatres, convention centers, stadiums, bars, nigh clubs. I work in an office and we were flagged as essential and allowed to keep our offices open. We of course did not open them. Or maybe it meant we are allowed to still operate, but in a safe manner as in work from home. I did find that funny since offices are probably one of the most common disease breeding grounds.

[@charlesevanshughes3638]

In my state, the governor just said "fuck this, every business is essential". I can't imagine what the small business scene in states that shut down hard will look like after this is over. Prepare for a lot less Mom 'n Pop stores in California, to be repalced by the latest antinational conglomerate.

[@RebelCowboysRVs]

The controversy is simple. Dont like what they do? Dont shop there. Dont like their employment system and benifits, dont apply for a job there. As for the Bible museum. It's not as if they called it toy land. You know before you step in the door that its a religious thing. Dont go if you dont want to see that kind of thing. They have a right in this country to both have free speech and freedom of religion. There is no fredom from other peoples free speech nor fredom from other people religion. Living in a country that allows free speech and religion means you have to see an hear things you do not agree with sometimes. We all have to. Get over it.

[@cecilecoonrod4146]

No one MAKES you shop at Hobby Lobby. In spite of the controversy they are still successful.

[@0h2ezy]

To say that one employee told a customer this or that… it’s completely hearsay. Never mind that the one employee doesn’t speak for the entire company

[@cxri9454]

They completely survived that whole employee spectacle. Ppl understood that one person doesn't represent a whole company so don't start preaching about cancel culture or sum sh!t

[@NoRegerts]

Exactly!!!

[@digitalfootballer9032]

My personal views are that any company can make the choice to run how they see fit. That said, my opinion is that being political in any way is usually bad for business, because you immediately eliminate one group by favoring another. Someone once said it isn't about red or blue, it's about green and they were right. In my business you sit down with customers one on one for a period of time, and since it is financial services, you get ALOT of political talk from customers. Having this job during Trump's Presidency was especially fun, because you got so many people that absolutely loved him or absolutely hated him, and I just enjoyed picking their brains a bit about it without revealing my personal opinion.

[@charlie9976]

I would imagine a company picking sides would be bad for business but i don’t know if companies don’t care or if they can get away with it as long as that political opinion follows the mainstream

[@polypolar715]

"A lot" is two words sweetie

[@boygenius538_8]

But for a privately owned company it’s for them to decide what they want to prioritize

[@digitalfootballer9032]

@@polypolar715 Thank you grammar police. Or maybe just thanks, since it is one word.

[@jacksauce]

@@charlie9976 Chick Fil A is a great example of a company that has openly religious owners, but doesn’t force Christianity down your throat(aside from maybe being closed on Sundays but that’s debatable). It essentially picked a “side” but it doesn’t really matter all too much because of how good it’s reputation is.

[@mikegrady5987]

That’s the beauty of capitalism. If you don’t like a company because of what it stands for or for the beliefs it holds, then feel free to vote with your wallet. There are other options if this one is not for you. Simple.

[@Andrew-zs5tc]

The owners of private businesses should be able to run their business they way they like based on their values (as long as they act legally). I buy from an Orthodox Jewish company that does not allow sales on their website on Saturday. I respect them for honoring their beliefs even if their beliefs do not match mine. As for going beyond the business to religious advertising, that should not be allowed as a business expense. As long as they are not getting a tax deduction for religious expenditures. I have no problem. I also support the decision that a potential customer makes to not buy from them if they do not agree with their beliefs. It is a free country. The customers have the right as well.

[@wdchapman1969]

Freedom of religion plus Capitalism means you can worship AND run your business as you see fit. If someone is offended by the religious or political beliefs of a company or people that own said company, then you have the right to shop elsewhere. Religion and business don't have to be mutually exclusive. Chik-fila is another example of a company that has had controversies over their beliefs yet they are one, if not the most, successful chicken restaurants. So its all about freedom. Freedom to run your company the way you see fit, and on the flip side, the customers have the freedom to shop and spend their money where they want. Its that simple.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Funny how people will say things like: "It's a private company they can do whatever they want......unless it's Christian then NO THEY CANNOT!" 🤣

[@jeffmill]

True, unless said company discriminates against race, sex or religion. Luckily for Hobby Lobby, sexual orientation isn't a protected class, or they'd have a real quandary on their hands

[@churblefurbles]

@@jeffmill that's the thing, those against this kind of thing are well known as the most likely to discriminate themselves, its why the o'sullivans law is a thing.

[@chadasonmcgraw8097]

The fact that most of these are even controversial, shows this world is in a really sad state.

[@hisandherscoaching]

well said. In a free country this is "first world controversy" =)

[@thegameweeb6884]

I am a Christian, and I know many people don't actually respect what we believe in. They call us intolerant for our beliefs.

[@NoRegerts]

Yeah, heard someone call us idiots fo doing tithes recently

[@joylox]

I'm in Canada, so I've never been there in person, but even as a Christian, I don't agree with what a lot of those things were trying to do. Like most mainstream right-wing Christianity, they seem to take the stuff they want more on cultural conservatism, rather than what's actually in the Bible. I support people standing up for religious freedom, but it has to have a real basis. I've had Mulsim classmates get exams moved so they wouldn't be on holidays or during prayer times, and that makes a lot more sense.

[@TheMouseAvenger]

YES!!!! Exactly! :-)

[@SiMone-bi5po]

I’m glad they were able to get that done for them… Some of these American teachers aren’t so lenient

[@jacobh674]

Abortion is murder according to the Bible. Idk how you can call yourself Christian and be okay with that being forced on Hobby Lobby. Or even it being legal. I suggest you read the Bible

[@SiMone-bi5po]

@@jacobh674 Because Jacob you as a Christian should know that the Lord would like us guide others to be saved and give them our testimony. Not force it. Not everyone is a Christian. Besides abortion saves a lot what would’ve been kids with a terrible lives

[@jacobh674]

@@SiMone-bi5po if you don’t think Christianity compels is to defend those who are innocent and unable to save themselves, idk what world you live in. Be a Good Samaritan buddy. Don’t let a baby die because you don’t thinks it’s your place to dare criticize someone