HOBBY NIGHTMARES! SLAYING MY WIFE, STORE VAMPIRE, PANDEMIC CAMPAIGN

[@viorp5267]

I feel like Hobby Stories would be better as a separate series.

[@viorp5267]

Proposal for the dude which likes to power-game. He seems like my type of guy where he enjoys reading deeply into the rules and just look autistically at what he can do mechanically and play with it. A good way to do that and not make overpowered characters is to instead take a usually weak part of the system and try to make it strong like a challenge run. For example, the strongest possible cantrip in D&D, build you character not to be the strongest period, but to just get the strongest possible cantrips that way you will never get too far ahead in power level to the rest of the party but still get to enjoy optimizing your build.

[@trolleymouse]

Based on the description, they weren't playing 5e, so playing a monk is already an example of them doing that. Perhaps a better option is to play the Control/Support archetype. All the spells that allow you to make the other parties feel like gods among men, or get the party out of trouble in a pinch. You never need to make an attack if the barb is making twice their usual ...

[@hyperlance]

@@trolleymouse Hey said Pathfinder, which is D&D 3.75. It could do some insane builds, and many gamers I know in my Pathfinder Society games would. However the way to get them was to say you needed to own the books to be able to use that ability/item/feat. They also banned certain options as well in Pathfinder Society.

[@denym123]

I am the guy, and I actually did this too, an example is I am currently running a ranger(monster hunter) in 5e, we are level 5 and I can drop 8d6+14 per round, although I am building this as a Witcher so am multiclassing artificer. For you North, the reason I build characters like that is because the GM had a tendency to create encounters that resulted in TPK's, like we as a group have played 13 campaigns, only the last 8 we got to the end of the campaigns, but all of these have been played across 13 years.

[@RagingRugbyst]

@@hyperlance that's pretty shitty, books should be shared over a campa8gn wtf. You enstablish which books are in or out and go. Wtf is with the pay to win ttrpg.

[@chezratte1357]

i got a couple of Chaos mages wearing an executioners hood for my Slaanesh army (Fantasy). I painted the hoods white, which resembles those KKK hoods (that was not my intention). It turned out as a benefit. Some guys in my gaming group are very politically invested, and always go after those mages, so i usually use those as a decoy.

[@moonnoodle2748]

"I believe our forces are being quite literally slaughtered." "Who gives a shit? They're nazis."

[@jamesmcmillanclyne391]

I think GW gets justifies the back templars as they use the Maltese cross and not the Iron cross

[@coraxcox9242]

Davito must be Danny Devito as Frank from its always sunny in Philadelphia 😂

[@trolleymouse]

I'll never understand what this so-called "quality" is that people see in GW's models 3D printers or other model companies can't ever seem to replicate. People always say it's a whole other league, but I'll show them other models that I think are vastly higher fidelity than GW's models, and get told "nah, they're obviously worse" with no elaboration. They keep saying GW's models are the best in the industry, but they're such nothing burgers. Even the new releases have nothing special about them that could be this nebulous "quality" I hear so much about ...

[@davidpaul6800]

yea it's amazing to me aswell look at 9ne page rules models puts GW to utter shame

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

If you don't understand, try taking the time to. It is a clear indication that you've been modelling for about five minutes. Quality refers to the production and not what you think is special about the sculpt design. 3D printers are not at that level of 'quality' and few companies are. It's not long off exceeding it, 3-7 years maybe. I am not going to elaborate further because I can't condense thirty years of experience into a neat paragraph, sorry.

[@trolleymouse]

That's the thing. I constantly see prints with higher quality to GW in every objective metric I can find. Crisper detail. Finer detail. Greater ability to handle overhangs. The only thing I could possibly think of is that the people saying GW is higher quality is exactly the thing you think I consider to be quality for some reason: aesthetic.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

@@trolleymouse You're one of the few with this assessment, maybe you're seeing stuff a lot of us are missing and the 'biting point' is sooner than we realise. Or, it's a subjective difference informed by a general distaste for GW business practice and general game design.

[@trolleymouse]

@@rantymcrant-pants9536 You know GW's masters are 3D printed too, right? And not even to the top of the line, as you can see the striations on some of their models even after they cast them into molds. There are commercially available end-user 3D resin printers that have objectively better final detail capability than GW's plastic models live up to, and that's not even up for debate at this point.

[@cythonnaiilo7956]

this D&D story made me happy. Happy because i have 20 years of 3.0/3.5 experience as a DM, something like this could never happen. such combat power at level 3?.. impossible in my games, because the setting of the campaign and the culture the players are in limits the talents they can learn. also i know roughly what books to exclude because the creators went completely overboard in them.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

Love a bit of RPG talk. Currently running a campaign, 61st session is on Monday.

[@aclevertrevor6450]

I just died when Northern slapped his leg and, “FFS!” 😂

[@rickyvaldez5205]

8k printers are right on par with gw models. No layer lines at all.

[@IdioticSynergy]

Really good video mate, loved the stories ^^

[@AllThingsCubey]

Only way 3D printing isn't in the same league is in surface finish, because of the microscopic layers. The sculpts and possible forms it can take are often higher detail, if stylistically different from the GW, slightly cartoonish model style. I'm not gonna say I prefer the look of a home-printed mini to injection moulded ones, but GW sculpts aren't exactly out-of-this-world good, not compared to what classic scale model companies produce, and have done for the last 10-15 years. Certainly GW doesn't like to do fine edge detail, at all. It's partially stylistic and partially because they're game pieces, not just display models.

[@RSBurgener]

I completely agree with you about 3D printed models. You put into words what I have always thought. I consider my models to be an artistic pursuit, I really put my whole self into the process. The designs I've seen haven't inspired me the same way as GW models do. I'm open to it, I just haven't felt that from any of them yet.

[@gilbertzzz7110]

The iron cross just feels right. The other symbols look too much or too little, like they belong on a carpet. Only other warhammer and mtg symbols, look simple and cool like the iron cross.

[@greenmann1217]

What makes no sense about the first story, I wish I'd been more specific about what's spell effect he was under because almost all of them mean that you were going to continue using your combat abilities as you normally do

[@bradiq306]

3d printed models > gw models every time. Primaris don’t count in a game that ever other faction still has old kits.

[@NeedGamesNow]

I agree with you 100% about 3-D printing. We are now at the point where you can 3D print an entire army and it will look amazing on the table, but it is not quite yet at the level of Games Workshop - Now with that having been said, I think in the next 3-5 years we WILL be at that level and GW needs to really start thinking about their future (I am guessing they already have plans set for that).

[@eezergoode8588]

I agree, geedub need to get in front of this or they're going to be caught with their pants down.

[@northernexile]

I really hope they do get to that level that would be awesome!

[@autumnlotus6250]

There are plenty of 3d print files that are Superior to GW. Look up lizardmen, chaos marines, chaos daemons, etc, and see how they compare to the GW models. I think people are just high on GW supply, and rarely look at other options and just Assume GW is top tier when they are just above average quality models

[@NeedGamesNow]

@@autumnlotus6250 I small portion of the files/printers/etc are doing just as good as GW (and in some cases even better), but it isn't mainstream enough yet, a couple of years from now though GW needs to look out!

[@autumnlotus6250]

@@NeedGamesNow I can literally go buy a printer right now for less then 500$ that prints at a higher quality then GW. Granted, it takes a bit to get used to the controls, and the files out there aren't ALL amazing, but there's large lists of models that outnumber GW models that look better. Once again: it sounds like peoppe who initially heard about 3d printers years ago, and didn't notice how affordable Good printers are now

[@NornQueenKya]

DnD and 40k are difficult for some people for the same reasons. Its not about min-maxing or trying to break the game. It's about enjoying time with friends.

[@LSFfilms]

totaly agree i dnt play DnD but playing into the star trek memes and technobable when playing the star trek rpg is so much more fun than fighting in it.

[@HenryC04]

always doing tyranids comment checks out here

[@autumnlotus6250]

Except that the optimization optimization fun for some people. If that wasn't the case for 40k, tournaments wouldn't exist

[@trolleymouse]

"All your problems would be solved if you just didn't play the game in the way you clearly find enjoyment in it."

[@radamanthus]

My wife plays Sororitas

[@CassyCat4]

That D&D story gave me Angel Summoner and BMX Bandit vibes. If you know you know ^_^

[@dww6]

Regarding quality of gw vs 3d printing. Do gamers need things at the current gw quality? Hobbyists certainly but gamers? Probably not.

[@phht0568]

That pf build doesnt make sense but i cant remember why. I think in 1st edition your limited by your bab per attacks at lvl 3 its +3 if monks are full bab i dont think so. Also i believe in 1e since synthesis summoner was so og they neft the ammount of attacks you can make, idk if its exclusive to it or all over. At lvl 3 in 1e youd be making 2 attacks using flurry of blows, actually 3. In 2nd edition you make as many attacks as actions you have left. So you can make 4 attacks with ki attack. Natural weapons dont give additional attack in either edition too. If you have feat for 2e such as twin take down you can do 5 attacks but you have to multiclass into ranger for that 1 action feat. Also with both editions duel weilding doesnt give additional attacks but lets you attack in your off hand with no penalties. 2nd edition has feat that give you actions to make 2 hit rolls. Idk how he got 12 attacks at lvl 3 unless he is misunderstanding the fulls. Because in 1st you have to use a full action to make all attacks i.e. whole turn. 2nd edition it would be impossible because feats that make you attack twice are flourishes, you can only use 1 durring your turn.

[@ravenRedwake]

36:57 I think a lot of people do that to avoid fuckery

[@oldhatAN]

You can really cheese the shit out of a Pathfinder 1e character. There are so many options across the line that someone with a high degree of systems mastery can come up with some crazy synergies. It has so many moving parts that it's quite possible to do this accidentally. I have done it. In one game, I started out making a rogue. I'll take this. I'll do that. The unchained version works better. That ability would work well with this character. When it was done, I had this terrifying little threshing machine that killed anything in one round. He was immune to mind control so the GM couldn't do that mind control thing on him.

[@allyisbister1211]

Get get enough of these. Perfect to listen to while painting ❤️

[@vorpalhit5952]

DM "how dare you use all the rules that I allowed to make the best character you can." Me as a DM *click* your tough guy falls into a trap. *Poof* a wizard appears and zaps you with a spell. You're frozen/slowed. Etc that DM was just being lazy. Next game play as an int 3 wizard and can't do anything. Fail all your rolls. The DM didn't do the right thing he was being a gatekeeper "you're playing the game wrong."

[@flatulatingfunnugget]

To the power gamer. I saw you mention your GM has a history of killing the entire party. Making a super hero character in an attempt to thwart the GM from wiping the entire party is not the solution to this problem. Next time the GM pulls a crap move like that you and your fellow players need to all tell him that you're not enjoying the game and he needs to change his party slaying ways. Killing a party because they are competing for the Darwin awards is fine but the scenario you are painting makes me think this has become some sort of warped competition between you and your GM to see who is "better" at the game at the expense of everybody else. If you and your GM can't change your ways you're going to end up very miserable in the end.

[@Phantosio]

Funnily enough the “women are always tyranid players.” My gf is a tau player, im the nid player!

[@chrisbaum121]

D&D, at least run a cool Fantasy-RPG like Stombringer/Elric! ;-)

[@Smilomaniac]

I fucking hate munchkins. Played since AD&D and the group of friends I introduced 3rd edition to were all math nerds. Every damn session turned into a boring grind of monsters and players using their overpowered builds to drag every round of combat out. It killed all my interest in pen and paper roleplaying games for over a decade. The worst part is that I got into the same mindset and I can't help but feel annoyed if I don't optimize a build.

[@northernexile]

Treat it like you’re writing a book and not playing a game, seems to work for me :)

[@SavageBruski]

Just got on your discord. Nice group!

[@starkillermarex]

I got no problem with power gaming. I prefer to DM much more than play, and the way I handle power gaming is by scaling things properly. It's not the player's fault that he's got a good build. It's the DM's fault for not scaling properly or telling the others about the player's build

[@willsham45]

Breaks immersion having an overpowered character? Na, what you then do is work that into a narrative. I am super powerful, but in "Tragic Back Story" I only kill villains humanely by killing them slower. Or that is the point where you add a new trait I can go all out but I could loose control.

[@IdioticSynergy]

I can't wait to watch this one matey

[@JamesPa]

thank you North !

[@darko-man8549]

I disagree on that power-gamer story; if the player isn’t being a d-bag and using his min-maxing, just roll play with it, no? If he wants to min-max but isn’t using it; he’s almost wasting his exp

[@greenmann1217]

If the game says that you can do with it's not a goddamn cheat code. I don't see how you can possibly admonish somebody for making the character that they wanted and then appropriately pulling punches

[@male1ism]

DnD is for role-playing not just following some DMs story

[@autumnlotus6250]

The rant about the 3dprints honestly sounds like old man yelling at cloud. Complete ignorance

[@Duncan275]

Im calling bs on the wolverine build, lvl 3 monk with all the listed stats… nope lol. There simply arent that many resources to have double everyone elses hp, 5 more ac and all that damage

[@TheStoicArmyPainter]

don't bash 3D printing Northern please. a 4k printer can print just as good if not better detailed minis than GW plastic at fractions of the dollar. Are GW paying you off? lol

[@northernexile]

I don't often say this but this sounds like nonsense or you collect an army that has models from the early 2000's. As I said, for armies like Tyranids and even Grey Knights - 3D printing is a godsend. Can 3D printers print something like the Archaon model, Guilliman, or any of the brand new sculpts? Don't be silly. Even folks who swear by 3D printers back me up on that one, some in these comments :)

[@TheStoicArmyPainter]

@@northernexile probably because they shilled out for some low resolution printers. or used FDM printing. And even if the detail is matching GW the price point is still a helluva lot better. Who wants to pay $65 for 2 or 3 models when they can pay .65 cents. I think GW has a GoT inspired winter approaching them // fast.

[@compositegameslimited4487]

Another fun video mate

[@sprockett6829]

Female ork player here :)

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

Per that last story, the Militarum have alot of SS symbolism, the comisars are literally dressed as Gestapos. 40k uses a TON of satire of actual fascist societies in the past. Using the Iron cross isn't just a "far right" thing, it has alot of symbolism in the real world, and hell, you could say you're satarizing them. All in all, it shouldn't be something that matters anyway.

[@greenmann1217]

Role playing games are about whatever the hell the group playing it wants it to be about. Your assumption that someone is in the back of their minds thinking that they're the best is really odd in my opinion. Assuming someone else's intentions especially concerning something that you yourself readily admit you don't enjoy is hazardous territory

[@sincenobodyasked3123]

Part of your monetization problem is you swear within the first 3 minutes of your videos. If you could wait 3 minutes before swearing, just do your composite games thing, and you will have more monetized videos.

[@matimbuss1470]

for u englisch iron cross is no nazi symbol only ss and the falg and varius others but iron cross is normal honnourd sing like a usa =purple hart

[@conanlucas6183]

Isn't the whole point of a game to win it? Why play to lose? If you can get that powerful you really should and so should everyone else including the DM, a few small encounters inside the castle walls you breeze through and then your party breaches the castle doors as the splinters and dust settle and the fog parts, your party stands infront of the army of darkness. You take a deep breath and whisper to your party "this is why we must be the best we can be, now FIGHT" or something like that

[@northernexile]

You don’t ‘win’ DND though, it’s a role playing game…you’re there to tell a story.

[@Itsallover57]

That would take an entire group of that particular type of person.

[@thomassmart4227]

Prizes must be Uk based only lol

[@northernexile]

Nah I'd get the models and send them over

[@WladcaPodziemia]

That Volverine-OP sounds cringey. And guy who said "There is no point in party, if that character exists" is right. Those are COOPERATIVE games - if there is no point to cooperating, 'cuz one guy can solo everything. There is no meaningful cooperation. This is not advanture of the group - that's "carry run". Also, if others put there all and one guy just doing anime-bullshit of "I will use 10% of my power" - that's also terrible to play through.

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

Six whole minutes of shilling. 😂

[@Teutonicredneck]

Power gamer is a loser and it is right to ostracize someone who does that in an RPG setting. With wargames or mtg it's implicitly competitive. But on a tabletop RPG where folks are supposed to COLLABORATE, it's just a stupid ego thing.

[@Teutonicredneck]

DM is garbo too for letting it happen, dereliction of responsibility

[@BIGSEXY617]

For the first story they were playing Pathfinder, not D&D. I know they’re similar but Pathfinder is much crunchier and over the top than D&D and shouldn’t be compared to coddling that 5E is. The DM in his story was kind of a dick for doing that knowing he was holding his punches and instead punished the dudes wife. At the end of the day the DM has the power to say whether a hit lands on him or not and sounds like he was poor at scaling his encounters appropriately.

[@grimgar3048]

i agree with this, pathfinder is an established system that encourages creative combinations in feats, class abillities etc but there will always be certain members of a RPG group with better system knowlege than others with a mind to maximise. This aside, imo the DM should never have allowed this character in the group in the first place and the fact that some people think it was good that the DM "punished" the party for me is moronic and goes against the spirit of the game - everyone should be having fun, and these sort of situations should be ironed out before session 1 (especially as this person was known to power game) Personally, character creation is a collaborative venture that where each player works with the DM to design and flesh out a character for a campaign - this mitigates the risk of power imbalance and also helps craft characters that fit the world they exist in