Hogan Says You Will Break 80 in 6 Months by Following "Ben Hogan's Five Lessons." Let's Try It!

[@bchbum4]

Our father taught my brothers and I off this book and I still have my original copy. What I like about the book is Hogan not only tells you what's right but what will happen when things are wrong. More than once I've had issues with my swing but going back to the book, I've been able to find the cause, that to me is the "beauty" of this instruction.

[@thescratchplan]

That’s amazing! What I like about it is the simplicity. It’s easy to follow and it’s easy to diagnose where you’re going wrong when you’re not swinging how you’d like to be!

[@steveperry1344]

it was the first book on golf that i got back in the 70's but have not looked at it in a long time, thnx for the refresher. i know it's gonna help.

[@thescratchplan]

@@steveperry1344 that’s exactly what it did for me

[@bensully94]

Best golf lesson video on KZbin, I paid for 4 PGA tour coach lessons for what you've just talked about, could have saved myself some dollar if I saw this two weeks ago 🙄🤷

[@thescratchplan]

@@bensully94 Thank you. I went through the same experience before finding this book. It made golf coaches were trying to teach me so much easier to implement!

[@lookmil107]

Sorry Ben but if you believe this video is going to help you to improve then I’ve got a big beautiful bridge in Brooklyn that you might be interested in purchasing…..

[@kylenielsen859]

Epic video with gem after gem of great advice from Ben Hogan, beautifully delivered! Great work and thank you!

[@thescratchplan]

@@kylenielsen859 Thanks brother 👊

[@rajramjit1755]

Subscribed..I have strayed after following so many different youtube "tips". This reinforces what I had been doing right all along. Thank you, I needed this. 👏👏

[@thescratchplan]

I always end up coming back to Hogan and it always gives me good results quickly!

[@dr.grahamomondi2979]

Man oh man!!! It doesn’t get better than this. Many many thanks. I am subscribed👨‍🎓

[@thescratchplan]

I’m glad you like it! A lot of KZbin tips feel a little greasy to me, but Hogan never fails!!

[@jeffreyreed3848]

Thank you so much for your very precise and easy to understand video. These lessons is what I try to pattern my swing after. However, to see and hear your video had me realize that I was a bit off in sequencing. I needed this refresher course to get back in order. Good work!

[@thescratchplan]

@@jeffreyreed3848 making it helped me with this same problem! I’m glad you like it!

[@seperoth1615]

Great explanation of the downswing and how the hips help get the club parallel. Struggled with this for ages. Thanks, now subscribed 👍🏻

[@thescratchplan]

@@seperoth1615 glad you like it! Thanks for the sub! More book summaries to come!

[@chris5069]

Good Work man. Well done, clear, articulate. Nicely done. Cheers.

[@thescratchplan]

Appreciate that! More book summaries to come!

[@lookmil107]

And yet another idealistic dreamer who has fallen prey to a “Hogan Aficionado.”

[@jhillyt]

Great, but simple lesson. Was doing some of it, but now I have the entire recipe. Thanks for sharing!

[@thescratchplan]

@@jhillyt happy to share! My favorites are the plane and the downswing

[@lookmil107]

Yea, you have the “entire recipe” alright, the recipe for disaster.

[@stratovani]

Leading the downswing with your hips is also what Harvey Penick talks about in his book The Little Red Book. He calls it the Magic Move, which is bringing the right elbow into your body while swinging with your hips leading.

[@thescratchplan]

I posted a video this week on Harvey Penicks little red book! That magic move you’re talking about was the best, most helpful thing I got out of the book! I’d love to get your thoughts on my video of Harvey’s Little Red Book!

[@yt754]

I gotta pick up that book and read it, didn't know how popular that is

[@vikramkanth8086]

What an awesome hole in one video❤ just right in content and tips 👌🏻

[@Brooks-z6v]

When I see people leaving mean comments, I think if you don’t like something, give constructive criticisms. Anything else is ego driven and a way to diminish others. I appreciate your work and your respectful comments. Hogan was my favorite golfer and I wish you good luck.

[@thescratchplan]

@@Brooks-z6v Thank you! We’re all here to get better right?

[@goforbirdies]

Yes, Ben Hogan's words are gold.

[@thescratchplan]

They’ve sure helped me!

[@lookmil107]

Unfortunately you haven’t a clue as to what Hogan was actually saying…..none.

[@dealameal5242]

worked for me. thank you. subbed.

[@thescratchplan]

@@dealameal5242 Stoked to hear it! I’m going to be releasing a video on Harvey Penick’s Little Red Book this week!

[@dealameal5242]

@@thescratchplan thank you so much. tried it out per your demonstration after watching and hit a few really pure shots in a row. I think what has been dogging my swing is that I didn't supinate my wrist at contact and always kinda hit it with the face open (unintentionally) so even if I had a decent shot it would slice a bit. looking forward to watching all your videos. keep 'em short and simple and concise and you'll gain big views.

[@scotthickenlooper]

Saving this for my next Simulator session - think it'll be a game changer for my break 80 journey!

[@thescratchplan]

It’s certainly been helpful for me.

[@Tothetoptrader21]

Thank you my friend i have this book but this was a great summary the visuals help clear it up as some of the book sketches arent as clear as your video!

[@thescratchplan]

@@Tothetoptrader21 glad it helped! I had to dig quite a bit to get some of the visuals right so I’m glad you appreciate them!

[@GoldenTweezer]

Liked and subscribed! Thanks for the very clear and concise explanation and demonstration !

[@thescratchplan]

@@GoldenTweezer thanks for the support! Glad it helped

[@gabrielhrecznyj536]

Yeah literally shot a 77 two months after reading and practicing what I learned in this book.

[@thescratchplan]

@@gabrielhrecznyj536 Both times I’ve read and implemented the book I came within 3 strokes of my personal best, within a week of finishing the book.

[@js3767]

Great video - works on the range...let's see how we go on the course 😉

[@thescratchplan]

@@js3767 you got this! 👊

[@Mybillboard1]

Yes you can, Assuming that you have good short game, putting, course management and mental game !

[@thescratchplan]

@@Mybillboard1 it’s certainly not easy. Takes a lot of time and effort but these are great building blocks to do it with

[@yesbasic8691]

Great summary!

[@thescratchplan]

Great book made it easier to provide a great summary! Glad you like it

[@scotthickenlooper]

Also - I recognize that legendary Davis Park range :)

[@thescratchplan]

@@scotthickenlooper good eye!

[@slingblade8963]

2:25 this violates everything I've known about the stance. Moving the back foot away from the ball is changing the alignment of the feet and direction of the shot. This will mean you're required to swing across your body to hit a straight ball. It will increase slicing and decrease consistency. Correct me if I'm wrong..

[@thescratchplan]

@@slingblade8963 it’s a bit unorthodox and I don’t love it but it’s when Ben Hogan taught. A lot of what he did and taught was to battle his biggest miss which was a hook so it makes sense when you look at it from that perspective.

[@lasvegasbreakingnews1752]

I also chuckle at the -it starts with the hips. Or, the ever dreaded cock a mania weight transfer. A certain pro of Hogan's era had an ongoing difference. he argued with Hogan, nope, the down swing starts with the hands. Hogan, of course never agreed. Just maybe that pro knew a little of what he was talking about. He only won 7 majors, and 75 other PGA events for a total of 82 wins. Hogan, 64 total wins. The confusion lies in that both had amazing natural rhythm and both had seemingly effortless swings. Unfortunately, far too many amateurs are enamored with the hip turn / weight transfer and totally get themselves all mucked up. What that other pro was pointing out, the entire downswing begins with the hands, and the down swing itself initiates the hip and weight transfer, automatically. You never need to think about hip first weight transfer. If you do, you literally hinder your downswing and impair the natural rhythm of the swing. Also, the very best, simplified, flawless instruction video on golf that you could ever need is by some guy named Seve Ballesteros. Want to improve your game Immediately? Stop watching all youtube BS videos on golf. Only watch Seve. If all you did was to study, learn, apply, and practice what Seve instructs and demonstrates, your game will amaze you.

[@thescratchplan]

@@lasvegasbreakingnews1752 thank you for the input! Starting with the hips like Hogan says has helped me get much more consistent. Like you say about Seve, I think improvement in your golf game comes when you choose one excellent model to follow. I would argue that both Hogan and Seve, though they have slight differences, are both great models and both are capable of taking your game in a good direction. That has been my experience.

[@lasvegasbreakingnews1752]

@@thescratchplan wish all amateurs would have you attitude. It is true, no one shoe fits all, however, finding that one qualified instructor and learning and following those teachings is of great value. Enjoy the game!

[@thescratchplan]

@@lasvegasbreakingnews1752 Thank you. I really appreciate the thoughtful comments and input! You sound like you'd be a great instructor!

[@donaldelder1368]

How did you determine distance from ball and lie angle of clubhead at address? Any body tilt with driver?

[@thescratchplan]

@@donaldelder1368 hogan teaches to stay erect with your spine, knees bent. From there it’s just getting to where I like the club head.

[@drum27]

Great video. I am confused about the stance though. I always thought that short irons should be centre of stance or close to? So am i right in thinking that the ball should always be forward towards the lead foot heel and the trail foot moves wider as the club gets longer?

[@thescratchplan]

@@drum27 According to Ben Hogan, you are correct! There are different ways to do it and the most important thing is 1- Something you are able to do with perfect consistency. 2- That perfect consistency provides results you are happy with. What I shared in this video is what met those criteria for Ben Hogan

[@drum27]

@thescratchplan excellent, thanks! 👍

[@lookmil107]

@@thescratchplan …… You are simply just another Hogan Aficionado who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the wall. I would literally bury you in a real time debate…..with ease.

[@orlandolozano9693]

The ball will center of your stance if your feet positioning is moving as he describes in the book…if you were to measure the angles from ball to lead foot and then to trail foot the ball position will be were it needs to be….there a video floating around where a person describes this and it shows the angles and where the ball position ends up in each stance from driver to wedges….it makes more sense if you can visually see it according to the angles

[@mikeburton8916]

That was great, thanks.

[@thescratchplan]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TheBarbecutioner]

The greatest mystery is how the cupped left wrist moves so that, at impact, the back of the hand faces the target.

[@thescratchplan]

There are definitely a few quirks with Hogan's stuff, but overall, following his lessons has made me a much better golfer.

[@benjaminhogan3157]

Nice blade brother!!!

[@TheCampsies]

Hogan's right hand position, his right index finger is more wrapped around the shaft, not hanging down in the manner you illustrate? Trigger finger style.

[@thescratchplan]

Thank you for the correction!

[@nateitscake88]

Your stance looked slightly closed with a driver shot or long iron, with the trail foot slightly behind the lead... Am I correct or just seeing things?

[@TheBarbecutioner]

Hogan taught that. See the diagram in his book

[@thescratchplan]

Yes, this is exactly how Hogan taught the stance.

[@paulrevere-e6y]

Excellent description and visual

[@lookmil107]

Nonsense…..

[@thescratchplan]

Glad you like it!

[@miked.7722]

he is teaching a weak grip which Hogan used so he couldn't hook the ball which Ben had a problem with early on. A true neutral grip the left hand V is pointing just about mid point on your left trap. Then the right hand will have its V pointing at approx the same place as the left V. Also Hogan used an overlapping or Vardon grip NOT an interlocking grip but whichever works best for you is ok.

[@thescratchplan]

Thank you for the explanation 🫡

[@jackgriffin580]

Paddy Harrington now has videos saying he will get us all to scratch. Similar to Hogan's claim. I love, respect and admire both of them, but the both make the same mistake... neither has the foggiest notion of how much more talented they were/are, than we mere mortals. Kind of the inverse of what Puck said in A Midsummer Nights Dream... "Lord what fools these superstars be."

[@thescratchplan]

There’s definitely some merit to what you’re saying. My opinion is that the message Hogan was trying to communicate was that focusing on a repeatable structure will help you see progress in your game.

[@garyurtiaga9426]

Golf is simple! It’s just not easy!

[@thescratchplan]

@@garyurtiaga9426 yessir. 100%

[@mjk-th2tm]

Should be very careful with that grip. It’s been well covered that Hogan had a very weak grip. It worked for him because he was a hooker of the golf ball. The weak grip straightened the flight. That weak grip will likely not work for most. It’s an iconic book, but several points in that book will make most golfers worse.

[@thescratchplan]

I’ve heard people say that but all of it, including the grip, has been very beneficial to my game! Gotta test it out for yourself to know if it’s a good fit for you I suppose

[@kamalhashmi9851]

That grip would destroy my little finger. The important things are repeatability and being able to swing the full arc such that the head is perpendicular to the line to the target at impact.

[@mikeconns]

Absolutely. I read and followed Hogan’s grip instructions religiously and found myself hitting a weak slice. It was only after I read that his grip was the product of fighting a snap hook early in his career that I worked that one out.

[@kimbramsen6611]

What about grip tension

[@thescratchplan]

@@kimbramsen6611 that’s a great question! I read the book a couple times and took excessive notes but I don’t recall anything on grip tension. I probably missed it. Do you have any input?

[@kanewright6020]

@@thescratchplan Hey, the book says that the grip tension on the left hand should be no tighter if not a little weaker on the remaining fingers than what is created by the index finger and palm

[@thescratchplan]

@@kanewright6020 I must’ve missed that! Thank you for adding!

[@robchapman3514]

Have fun slicing your way around the course

[@stevel6895]

Oh really, well that's the only grip I've ever had and my shot pattern has always been a draw. When you make a statement like that you should always follow it up with some reasoning. The golf swing is the some of all it's parts, not just the grip.

[@robchapman3514]

@stevel6895 I didn't specify why you would slice. Hogan's 5 lessons have widely been debunked by most teachers of any standing. Without his standing in the pantheon of golf, his method would have been thrown in the bin many yrs ago. By his own admission, he did not miss a day where he didn't hit at least 500 balls. That indicates how much practice it takes to time the forearm rotation needed to square the face. He created his swing because he knew he couldn't win majors hitting the high looping draw that sometimes became a snap hook. That's why he created such a weak grip. Hogan's swing worked for him. I'm glad you're a drawer of the ball. Mind you, most players now prefer the once despised fade as it's easier to control. Don't worry about me champ. I've done my research.

[@thescratchplan]

@@robchapman3514 Debunked is a strong way of putting it. This book has helped me shoot a lot lower very quickly. I have battled bigger fades and some slices since implementing it but it’s a predictable miss which is worlds better than my previous two way miss. The key to a great golf swing is consistency which is what this book provides when learned and implemented

[@stevel6895]

@@robchapman3514 Isn't it great that we're still entitled to have our own opinions. Let's face it, the game isn't the same today as it was during Hogan's time. Better equipment, and physical conditioning are complete game changers. But, as for the practice regimen I'm quite sure today's top pros hit as many balls a day as Hogan did and therein lies the secret to playing top level golf. Tiger says his daily regimen is to make contact with 1000 balls a day! That is combined, long game, short game, and putting. As for today's teachers of standing, I'm not impressed with any of them. I'd rather hear tips from proven pros that actually played the game. My two favorites being Hogan and Trevino. Both credited by Jack Nicklaus as being the two best shot makers to ever play the game.

[@robchapman3514]

@stevel6895 I provided facts not an opinion

[@kyledavenport6505]

Ben taught the varden grip, not the interlock grip. But in reality it's not that big of a deal

[@gregschulte2953]

Hogan was awesome, but very few can imitate him.

[@thescratchplan]

@@gregschulte2953 What I know is that his book has helped my game a lot

[@paulkerin6378]

You missed the most crucial point he made about the grip and he stressed how important it was twice and it's the part where you create tension between the top of right forefinger and right thumb, which subdues the right arm and hand and delays the release of right hand into impact, which creates better timing at impact.and then you talk about setting knees towards target line, which he never said and you missed the most important part about what he said about posture and he said, standing up straight, pretend your about to sit down on a spectator stick and in lamens terms, he's just saying, while standing up straight, push your buttocks backwards and then bend upper body over and the part about rotating hips to start downswing, Hogan clearly said, at the start of downswing, there must be enough lateral motion, in order to transfer weight to left foot. You really need to reread the book, because you just butchered what he said and gave really bad information, that would make a golfers swing worse. You got everything else right, but left out the 3 most crucial things he taught in order to have a correct golf swing.

[@thescratchplan]

@@paulkerin6378 Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion of the video! In the description I do have a link to an outline that shares everything. The outline includes these points and I’m sheet I missed them in the video!

[@Dustwheel]

Looks like you got an interlocking grip there. Don't know if that's a Hogan thing.

[@thescratchplan]

I took this directly from the book 🫡

[@keernhaslem1845]

It’s easy to tell @5:38 he doesn’t understand Hogan

[@thescratchplan]

@@keernhaslem1845 would love to hear your reasoning for thinking this

[@keernhaslem1845]

@ the impact position you’ve simulated is comparable to golf machine metrics. Hogan released the club in such a way that pressing forward at impact would have slowed him down. The evidence is in the fifth chapter. It’s not merely a summary. New information is introduced. The fifth chapter is a cipher.

[@stevel6895]

The claim of breaking 80 in 6 months is wishful thinking. All the 5 lessons book covers is the full swing. To shoot low scores it requires a decent short game and being able to putt well, the book covers none of this. Great book, I've used it myself many times, but it's not the end all of learning to golf.

[@thescratchplan]

@@stevel6895 It is definitely a bold claim! In the book Hogan briefly mentions that you can use the same swing thoughts with partial wedges and even chipping, which I do and it has helped me. I agree that you have to get putting down as well!

[@Nobody2day553]

Put the ball inline with lead foot.... sounds like a great recipe for pull-hooks every time. Put the ball inline with bellybutton if you want to hit it straight.

[@thescratchplan]

@@Nobody2day553 lots of ways to be successful. The key is consistency, which this book definitely offers

[@lancejordan6953]

Lol just watch Martin Ayers and you might learn something. This is horrible!

[@thescratchplan]

Interesting take. The book has helped my game a ton, along with millions of other golfers.

[@christophercowan1645]

Not a crazy ending at all. Completely predictable. Told my wife EXACTLY what was going to happen. Watch, I said, they will only rush 4 and let the seahawks roll right down the field to score a touchdown with no time left for us. Well, what do you know. STOP IT ALREADY! You have done the same thing EVERY TIME.

[@thescratchplan]

@@christophercowan1645 wrong video?

[@maxsmart8954]

6 months ??? my first round was 90 3 weeks later playing my 6 th round I shot 78. Golf is easy !!

[@thescratchplan]

@@maxsmart8954 Ben Hogans words, not mine ✌️

[@seanpeacock5595]

9 holes doesn’t count 😂

[@steveperry1344]

you are good.

[@aliasErEf]

So Donald Trump is your caddy…🤓

[@steveperry1344]

@@aliasErEf he has a low handicap he says.

[@havenrab]

Top 5 worst books for beginners in history

[@thescratchplan]

@@havenrab I’m curious why you believe that? What don’t you like about it for beginners?

[@havenrab]

@ this book was based around Hogan, not wanting to hook the ball subscribes weakish grip really led me down a bad rabbit hole - the little green book by penik is much more useful imo

[@thescratchplan]

@@havenrab I’ll check it out! Hogan’s stuff has been extremely beneficial to my game but I’m always open to see more options!

[@pedroc6823]

You don’t have follow the five lessons exactly. There could always be a few things that can compliment your game. I just modified a few things to fit me, the one constant was the diagram of the radial ball position.

[@CurtisPanfil]

​@@pedroc6823I'm still struggling with ball position and Hogan's method I feel places the ball too far forward in the stance. Any recommendations? Agreed on adjusting things, I subscribe to Hogan's grip, I just my trail hand slightly to a more neutral position and it has worked wonders for me.

[@lookmil107]

This video is nothing more than another “Hogan Aficionado” attempting to explain Hogan’s concepts. Unfortunately, all that Hogan Aficionados understand is this basic mantra that has been presented here. I can 100% assure anyone watching this ridiculous video that in no way, shape or form will this video help you to improve at all. Nice try, but if you truly understand Hogan then you would understand that Hogan wasn’t going to simply hand it to you-no way. There is so much MORE contained in 5-Lessons that virtually nobody understands. Hogan doesn’t address his foundational principle until page 93. And for what ever it’s worth-this guy doesn’t have even a remote idea as to what Hogan was conveying with his “3 planes.” Those being the backswing plane, the downswing plane and the “transition plane,” which functions during both the backswing and post impact follow through. Although no mentioned in 5-Lessons, Hogan did speak of moving “Level Left” in the follow through, Hogan depicts THAT by use of his “Plane Drawings.”

[@thescratchplan]

@@lookmil107 Of course it’s not everything Ben Hogan ever taught. Just his book. It has a lot of gems that have helped my game. I wanted to share everything in the book for people who don’t want to invest the time in reading the book.

[@lookmil107]

@@thescratchplan …… What??? Hogan’s book 5-Lessons is 127 pages filled with 180 individual drawings. If a golfer isn’t inclined to read Hogans book then to hell with him. Your explanation of Hogans principles is 100% typical of every arrogant Hogan Aficionado I’ve ever come across. So the “insights” you present in this video are therefore e“sophomoric” at best. Nice try but you are simply just another arrogant clown who believes he has insight into the true understanding of Hogans principals. I can 100% assure you that you do not. Your demonstration of Hogans hip movement is utterly ridiculous. Hogan NEVER “lagged” the club head in his downswing.

[@squarehat]

Really, you are just blatantly ripping the book off!

[@thescratchplan]

That’s an interesting take. If someone posted a complete ten minute summary of Happy Gilmore would you say they are blatantly ripping the movie off?

[@squarehat]

@@thescratchplan I stick by my comment

[@thescratchplan]

👍

[@hatzlmike1]

Lied about the grip?

[@thescratchplan]

@@hatzlmike1 what do you mean?

[@hatzlmike1]

@ cant read?