HOI4 Double Timelapse - By Blood Alone vs No Step Back

Hello Everyone, In Today's HOI4 Double Timelapse We Will Be Comparing By Blood Alone With No Step Back, Enjoy!

[@thinkingboi9508]

Left Map: Calm, long time of peace, mostly historically accurate, not too crazy Right map: *Hey kids, want to see the 1943 British invasion of the Soviet Union during WW3?*

[@hoi4timelapser964]

The fact that I ticked historical for both and this happened actually worries me😂

[@zaidflores4256]

* nsb: ​​there come to be two frances after the war*

[@user-ns5di9on9n]

Britain with historical chooses national focus that gives wargoal against USSR. Since with historical AI chooses focuses from manually made list and since it hasn't been fixed ever since United and Ready, I assuming that it works as intended.

[@arnavsrivastava1158]

Not so much historical accurate because everythime I play hoi4 around 1944, the soviets always to do thier Alaska focus and sometime they go to war with the allies or more like nato and sometimes they don't.

[@itzqweiny7873]

But the ending is so...💀

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

BBA seems much more historically accurate. The Spanish Civil War started July 17. July 3 is much closer.

[@placeholer9910]

Along with that, everything is much closer in Hoi4 BBA to the historical date than it is for NSB.

[@getimpaled3460]

@@placeholer9910 Other than Baltic states sometimes becoming Soviet puppets

[@bessythecow2429]

@@getimpaled3460 and annexation of Vichy by Germany.

[@Tukeuvian]

Also Winter War started Nov 30 1939 It seems that NSB does things quicker and earlier

[@Ordenbiest_HD]

Well I just think that the no step back game was starter earlyer and ran at higher speed cuz. It attacked Poland in 38 like the timer said

[@rubiepie]

Some how BBA's post WW2 Border is the most cleanest thing I ever seen

[@pizzahut2236]

real east germany?!?!

[@dehydrateddarkness3565]

Have you seen what Poland has done?

[@ZPheenix]

@@dehydrateddarkness3565 no polands accurate only missing 1 of its modern states and only owning states that r they’re a irl

[@dehydrateddarkness3565]

@@azlanadil3646 Let's see: It has annexed 90% of Czechoslovakia, presumably released it in Southern Slovakia, annexed half of Transylvania and some random province in Estonia. Yup, seems fone by me. Honestly I think Poland should have weighted claims (like Italy) for Lithuania, Latvia Ukraine and Belarus, to minimize the bordergore in case Soviets do poorly or go to war with allies

[@YourLocalMairaaboo]

@@dehydrateddarkness3565 yeah, but before ww3 started, the borders were amazing

[@fruta6279]

the revolution in italy is pretty strong after the new DLC

[@GriffithVA]

All it does is make my game crash

[@somenon-human0267]

Power of pizza

[@whitezombie10]

Yeah

[@JB-xl2jc]

@@GriffithVA That's a lot of power, from a game perspective they destroyed the universe then

[@nuclearllama7239]

I have noticed that the AI is alot more railroaded to original events. Pre-BBA Germany would instantly declare on the Benelux when they got the wargoal after capping Poland. Now they let the phoney war play out a little bit

[@PProsya]

Why does all the time-lapses after World War II start to get fucked up?

[@hoi4timelapser964]

Probably because of the alliances that form during the war

[@slikespitfire4751]

I love how the end of the NSB timelapse features an ominous multicoloured mess at the edge of the screen.

[@user-pd6ev9gb7j]

Fact: BBA zoomed in more than NSB

[@martinarguello3014]

Zoom should be nerfed

[@wilhelmu]

"Never wage a land war in russia, especially not in winter" BBA Poland: "oh boy, here we go, here we go"

[@sinfulsage7106]

BBA: Calm NSB: “ABANDON REASON KNOW ONLY WAR!”

[@kinqskill3452]

Germany: * loses to soviet union * UK: Fine, i'll do it myself.

[@navisamepresent9331]

NORMAL BORDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG~~!!!!!!!!!!!

[@loirojose9298]

the BBA map got much prettier

[@omegawonton8749]

the timing is messed up, the anschluss always happens in february 1938

[@iloveallah5960]

Are you sure the right one [nsb]has correct time? There is no way that they did anchluss that quick

[@t2force212]

Ikr war with Poland in 1938? All the spaces between events seem correct but the timings of all the events seems like the right map is 1 year a head of time

[@t2force212]

Not to mention fall of France and winter war also all in 1938

[@hoi4timelapser964]

The NSB might be one or two months apart from the time since the time was from the BBA recording, but it shouldn’t be too much of a difference. Even so, in my next double timelapse I will be using the time from both so this shouldn’t be a problem!

[@MaskedRokho]

@@hoi4timelapser964 theres no way, if your on historical this shouldnt happen as the ai is literally following a list of focuses selected by paradox devs, this list wasnt changed in between the updates, except for the italian one ofc

[@jacekgedek3872]

​@@hoi4timelapser964 I think it has to be at least a year. Look at Turkey - in this video they attacked Bulgaria in January 1942 in No Step Back. This is not possible - in one of patch Turkey got a stiff blockade that prevents them from joining the Allies anymore before 1943. but ignoring this difference - a nice movie :)

[@TheDaniolip]

Something went terrible wrong in "no step back" run. Germany usually doesn't invade poland in 38.

[@landiSurdulli]

because the timelapses are not synced between. When it was 1938, it was 1939 for the right side.

[@Luis_.-]

Nice!

[@teteeheeted]

They legit started a hypothetical war of the 1950’s-1970’s in 1940 bruh

[@colbyyerxa387]

These recordings aren't starting at the same time. Rhinelands already demilitarized in No Step Back right out the gate. On top of that I think one of them is going much faster than the other.

[@realdragao6367]

Nope, its just faster events

[@buddyj5VCO]

@@realdragao6367 if it's on historical Germany usually does it's wars in 39

[@justinambru8529]

Can you do a calm before the storm/ darkest hour double timelapse? I want to see how advanced each of their ai is.

[@Archduke_Astatos]

I find it funny that, compared to the mod that buffs the USSR to the one that buffs the Axis, that in the Axis buff one the invasion of the USSR is just kinda pathetic.

[@kreontol6252]

no step back timelapse has the wrong date

[@freetime5803]

I thought BBA would cause the creation of 10 new Germanies

[@papagaiofilmes6642]

Those BBA borders are one of the cleanest I ever saw

[@freetime5803]

@@papagaiofilmes6642 i had Poland annex a piece of Norway, souther parts of Germany (not connected with Poland), and parts of Britain In the same playthrough I had Turkey annex southern France

[@BorchikYes]

I love how in the end in BBA poland got tiered of people taking its lunch money and decide to beat up da soviet. (they even got farther than germany)

[@bigmanducky]

Noice

[@gkagara]

I played 4 times and each time British got sea lion I am playing as minor AI just do their thing in those 4 run twice Italy won the Africa and twice they lose it.

[@capapofa]

4:51 rip nsb europe

[@logansmith2007]

I like thick Poland at the end

[@george4821]

It's an improvement I suppose

[@uribenlavy7027]

Got it! No Step back is with ahistorical AI!!!

[@violet9881]

NSB Ver.: S was coming and stepped back

[@JackJones-mg6cv]

Britain carrying the squad in nsb

[@FurgusFungus]

1 thing annoying about historic peace conferences is that the soviets keep the parts of poland they had occupied so there's one region that belongs to the soviets that should be polish

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Kind of funny with the Italy update it doesn't occupy Albania anymore.

[@hana_irl123]

It does, the color doesn't seem like it because they make it a puppet, there's a decision to puppet albania in BBA

[@Pokemaster_416]

Did the UK just solo both the axis AND the soviets?

[@saintaries7883]

The soviets seemed hard to beat in bba

[@gien0honnin]

As an aside, "BBA" means "old woman" in Japan

[@j.m.f5451]

Wow, Germany is doing Anschluss and Sudetenland WAY ahead of time. That's wonky, I never noticed how off-the-rails NSB AI was.

[@zap648]

This implies that BBA Germany has enough equipment and men on the field to start WW2 before NSB even can do the Sudetenland.

[@johnmorgan2846]

Several inconsistencies here: NSB - March '36 Spanish civil war breaks out? NSB - April '37 Anschluss of Austria? NSB - Late August '37 Sudetenland?...and the list goes on...I have the same DLCs and mine do not have the inconsistencies found here. What is being demonstrated with the time lapse?

[@madensmith7014]

Never seen Germany declare an early war on NSB from my games. Their focuses are pretty much the same, wth happened?

[@jakmilz]

when 1945 happens in 1942

[@Ponytamin]

NSB is like just be was launched 3 years earlier

[@uribenlavy7027]

This is the earliest fucking spanish civil war ive ever seen wtf

[@milandang5415]

Hoi5 is due soon

[@Artificial_Intelligence_Num8]

Границы в BBA это ШЕДЕВР!!!

[@Cortadoradepiedra12]

Ok, Poland

[@VSMSusi]

Why Is 1938 1940 On The Left?

[@acejetser8880]

The Soviet ai is fucking broken in bba but the timing is much worse in nsb

[@PensamientoEspanol]

Es imposible desde La Resistance que la guerra civil española estalle antes del 17 de julio de 1936, a no ser que la IA republicana no haga nada, que siempre hace. Puede alargarse hasta 1937 si no es histórico.

[@stephanepoisson7129]

BBA : Im stronger, im smarter... Im BETTER.. I AMMM BETTEERRR

[@kapicze2461]

To są właściwe DLC

[@mrvirsuspro4189]

Ai make historical borders after ww 2??? Nah I'm sleeping

[@daming278]

Can someone explain what is no step back and the blood alone?

[@hoi4timelapser964]

The newest version of hoi4 and the previous version of it.

[@stephencarroll9935]

Wtf ai going for an early ww2 never seen that on historical

[@AmericanCarrierVesselUSSRanger]

I have both dlc so how i use the bba 💀

[@einfachich5637]

Both versions are kinda scuffed

[@sottourr]

No way that in NSB USSE pushed back germany

[@wolfhunter98]

Can't be correct. Bhutan and Luxembourg didn't form a alliance then take over the planet.

[@whitezombie10]

That isn’t a normal NSB timeline

[@hoi4timelapser964]

I mean every game is unique since the ai can be very randomn, even on historical.

[@pootispow0]

i just got hoi4 a week ago and i have no fucking idea what new dlcs do except make mods unplayable

[@ivankopernika536]

Here we will be comparing normal hoi4 against hoi4 (but i changed up the settings) to make it seem different!

[@hoi4timelapser964]

They are 2 different versions meaning the nsb doesn’t have the by blood alone dlc + any changes made after the update:)

[@kirby1225]

I have never seen the USSR not eat rocks in NSB.

[@VencDom_KM]

No step back be like: Churchill: Hey German looser, let me show you how it's done. H!tler: Show what? *UK invades USSR with success* H!tler: bruh

[@mrreziik]

Yeah, germany needs a rework

[@justaplayer2250]

No,just not buy any dlc,in vanilla germany is best

[@ledeadjsjsj3767]

Hey uh how tf do I annex Albania as Italy

[@hana_irl123]

go to decision look at something annex albania

[@mrfisher1072]

Post WW3 in both these dlcs look horrific

[@izzetonol2709]

historical on?

[@hoi4timelapser964]

Yes

[@capapofa]

@@hoi4timelapser964 nsb very historical ngl

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

Wait, Germany falls in 1942 in no step back?

[@gamerdrache6076]

No they fight infitly against soviet unitl usa lands

[@Crafty283]

The war Ended 1945 Nobody has a Chance against soviet

[@brrritishbrrritish9665]

didn't see any difference except FOV

[@bluefishfff]

이게 역사적 ai?

[@mr.xp484]

Что-то бот промахнулся с началом войны)

[@SmashingCapital]

Italy never annexes albania lmao

[@yaboi672]

no they do it turns into a puppet right after with those colours

[@Eren-km7wd]

Blood alone bad dlc

[@themammoth67]

Hoi4 really forgot that poland was a joint invasion

[@Vershitel123]

Buy NO STEP VACK

[@teemo9686]

The ww2 peace deal is much much better than before. Finally not silesia beeing east german. No more bordergore

[@kirby1225]

it still happens, but less

[@teemo9686]

@@kirby1225 youre right. Ww3 peace deal was just horrible in this video

[@kirby1225]

@@teemo9686 i have a feeling the A.I has been programmed to give specific states to some countries now if it's considered WW2. I had a very similar peace deal happen lately.

[@pietpanzerpanzer5335]

Dfg whats wrong with no step back lol

[@Tho-ugh-t]

russia op?

[@treycotter]

? This is not consistent with the game at all lol. I think somethings been manipulated here, wether intentionally or not.

[@hoi4timelapser964]

In what sense? Both game recordings were on default settings and historical on. The rest was up to the ai which is always very randomn even with historical on.

[@treycotter]

@@hoi4timelapser964 The dates are definitely not the same. Events were happening much much earlier in NSB then they ever actually happen. Unless something very rare happened to effect the timeline, this is not anywhere near the average NSB timeline. Other comments seem to reaffirm this. Great video and entertaining nonetheless, but I think it may need to be redone.

[@johnyvanbaxter4328]

The game is too slow now.

[@johnnicholas1657]

Lol no way that's a real BBA peace deal. All the others I've ever seen are a complete mess

[@FireBocchi]

the axis peace deal may be preprogammed by the devs, without a human players to interfere, they followed the script perfectly

[@electricsupra]

This is complete bs this is not what happens in no step back.

[@Hunter-cx6]

Blood alone germany is weak.

[@FireBocchi]

better when they always won like in man the guns