HOI4 How to use CAS (Hearts of Iron 4 Man the Guns Tutorial Guide)

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4 жыл бұрын

this hoi4 air force tutorial is going to show you in HOI4 How to use cas or air support. this is going to cover everything you need to know about how to use cas in the hearts of iron 4 man the guns dlc. in hearts of iron 4 air force is one of the most simplest and difficult things to learn but today's hoi4 guide will show you everything you need to know when using cas in hoi4 multiplayer or singleplayer.
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@arulshankarum2512
@arulshankarum2512 4 жыл бұрын
What I like the most about u and Ur channel is not Ur videos( i like em too), u read and reply to every comment.. that actually gives me a feeling that u r Better than others.. I hope u do these even when u become a big shot
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, comments like this keep me going 😁. And ill always try to respond to everyone
@m.m6990
@m.m6990 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 i tip my hat to you
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Ots pronounced hat -_-
@MrFrazer5800
@MrFrazer5800 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 lord of cool math game virgins :D
@JohnDoe-jq4re
@JohnDoe-jq4re 4 жыл бұрын
Big facts, no KZbinr goes into the comments like Dustinl
@Firespectrum122
@Firespectrum122 3 жыл бұрын
"Insurance companies hated [Arthur Harris] in WWII." Only thirty seconds in and you've already got me laughing.
@fuser312
@fuser312 4 жыл бұрын
Use Calculator : Things I never imagined I would ever hear in my life as an advice for playing a video game, lol.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Addapt, learn, overcome, play hoi 😁
@Munky332
@Munky332 4 жыл бұрын
Never play SIlent Hunter then. You'll use calcs, Trig, as well as slide rules and bunch of other stuff hahaha
@fuser312
@fuser312 4 жыл бұрын
@@Munky332 I have played or tried to play Gary grigsby's war in the east and command : modern air/naval operations and you are now just triggering my PTSD. :p
@Munky332
@Munky332 4 жыл бұрын
@@fuser312 How about Eve Online; AKA Spreadsheet Simulator 2002. lol
@pirateofthemist3764
@pirateofthemist3764 4 жыл бұрын
I never thaught Indians played Hoi I am happy to see it
@Anonymous-zu7dh
@Anonymous-zu7dh 4 жыл бұрын
Got a hoi4 ad before this vid... I guess the apes at KZbin figured it out this time
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@outdatedtank4542
@outdatedtank4542 4 жыл бұрын
Took long enough
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
😁
@pojuaurelius4077
@pojuaurelius4077 4 жыл бұрын
Pro tip by looking at thumbnail: actually exercise your air wings for both quality and experience
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Probably should have mentioned that. I didn't really have time to do it since I was trying to rush a little bit the gameplay side of things and just started in the 1939 scenario
@pojuaurelius4077
@pojuaurelius4077 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 not very epic gamer moment of you my dude 😡
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Well being sick and having a knee injury isn't exactly giving me much time for videos
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
60
@natalassblaster
@natalassblaster 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these guides! I have a lot of hours in the game but learning exactly how the mechanics work is hugely helpful!
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help 😁
@psychedellictoxin1195
@psychedellictoxin1195 2 жыл бұрын
2 years later, and this STILL answers my CAS question. Glad I've been subscribed for several years.
@kerolosmich
@kerolosmich 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making all these tip videos,I always wonder and ask my self "How do I properly use CAS" or "What can I do to up my naval invasion limit" Most the things I didn't know about I learnt it from you,Thanks again,Keep making these videos! Edit: Or a tutorial about battle plans in 1.7 Hydra
@willigutschmidt7137
@willigutschmidt7137 4 жыл бұрын
oh damn, i was sending all my airplanes in the region im fighting in hoping it helps somehoe
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
If you send too many fighters who only do a couple Missions at time unfortunately
@maddog5458
@maddog5458 4 жыл бұрын
I did not understand how the air war worked on a micro scale. Boy does this video help out on that. Another great video by Dustin. Thanks again and again. :-)
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@standasvestka
@standasvestka 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I think it was explained very clearly.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@kyleh8436
@kyleh8436 4 жыл бұрын
Glad your back man 👍
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt really leave tho
@kyleh8436
@kyleh8436 4 жыл бұрын
Just good to know your good man
@chasecarter3803
@chasecarter3803 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was confused about this
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help 😁
@DestructoMonkey
@DestructoMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
if its 60 planes to take on a 20w division and air zones dont typically have 100% efficiency wouldnt it be best to have 80-unit or 100-unit wings or so as a catchall wing size?
@guineapigsincorperated3295
@guineapigsincorperated3295 4 жыл бұрын
What buttons you use to do quickly assign the planes for a division?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is Select one or two of the are wings that you want to use by holding shift and click them. Then right-click the Army you want them to be assigned to in the theater mode in the top right
@thehaus6998
@thehaus6998 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid really helpful btw hope u feel good
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@MarkHerndon
@MarkHerndon 3 жыл бұрын
Good information I had no idea what level of hinderance I was putting on my air power putting them in big massive groups. I figure I better run 120's especially now that I know they only do three missions per day max. Does this only apply to air support missions or all air missions?
@samvandijk3993
@samvandijk3993 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Can anyone confirm that 'Strategic bombing visibility' and 'Night-time strategic bombing penalty' from doctrines *only* apply to strategic bombing, and not to port strikes or other ground missions such as cas/naval strike? Also, which types of planes and/or missions does the 'Bomber defense' bonus from doctrines apply to?
@Admiral45-10
@Admiral45-10 4 жыл бұрын
Could I ask you a question? Does the Radar researches (in, you know, Electronics slot), or something that boosts ground Night Attack (e.c. some of Grand Battleplan Doctrines, or in Equipment Research slot) can help Close Air Support Planes detect their targets, or is it something that just can't be fixed?
@dr.wahnsinn9913
@dr.wahnsinn9913 4 жыл бұрын
I think the night bonuses of the GPD and the Weapontech should only work for Groundtroops. But im not sure at the radarthing its possible that it works but by common sense it should not (Radar showes your Army the movement of enemy planes and ships but and detect the Area there to find them, but at a Frontlinie you should already know there the enemy stands and the Problem is what you are not able to aim properly at them.
@tycondero1647
@tycondero1647 4 жыл бұрын
Can you perhaps talk about or link a video where you go into equipment upgrades? I have seen your tank and aircraft upgrade video, but still would like to ask the question whether upgrading using XP has any effect. On a divisional level it seems that you can upgrade all you want for the armor value for example, but if the opposing divisions have any AT guns and penetrated you already, swapping out your tanks to a more armor value upgraded variant doesn't seem to save you from enemy AT penetration. Only a divisional level redesign or totally new tank model can pull that off practically or am I in the wrong here? Maybe something good for you to analyse an perhaps dedicate a video on?? Love to hear your thoughts.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Ill try but no promises
@Gawelcus1266
@Gawelcus1266 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Airbattles and Air superiority, everything depends on your playstyle, but everything is based on points system and supportig doctrines plus Variants. Lets say I want to create airforce of great Fighters! Let's say I got the designer company and best Variant of it . The best way to play it is to make it 100 planes strong airwings and 5 reali 5 range 5 engine 0 attack you will be in plus for reliability what will give you lower accident chance (reliability above 100% counts into it) getting Ace will give you huge advantage, and as long you have wings in size of 100 to 10 you get bonus of Ace's ability from 1x to 10x times if I am not wrong. Then the Air attack and defense... Your Air defense will almost always smaller than the Air attack, so getting a bonus in there is not that important, speed and agility is what will win all the battles, and so on I love your Videos and I have some ideas for you if you would want to discuss it let me know till your next Vid!
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting thought and thanks :-)
@kerolosmich
@kerolosmich 4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a tutorial about Front lines? Due to 1.7 hydra update and man the guns,it changed some things that i was used to.If you do it then thanks.
@panzer5937
@panzer5937 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing changed about frontlines since the DLC together for victory with the spearhead order
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Ill try, mostly its the same tho for now
@kerolosmich
@kerolosmich 4 жыл бұрын
@@panzer5937 there are some new shit,that i cant make marshal frontline,etc³
@CCS_Stats
@CCS_Stats 4 жыл бұрын
How do I find out the width of the opposing army division? I am just starting this game.
@vikingshark2634
@vikingshark2634 3 жыл бұрын
"This is really tricky" seems like a mantra for pretty much every system of the game, and you'll wanna track this kind of complexity for infantry, naval, economy, intel, resistance, trade, diplomacy, fuel...It's really all too much to keep up with unless you have a notebook and a spreadsheet. I mean, you can still kind of play and accomplish a few early victories and get some entertainment value out of the game, but to win consistently you need this kind of understanding of multiple overlapping and interdependent systems. Otherwise you'll consistently find yourself post-1940 realizing you now have an unwinnable game because you didn't pay enough attention to or have a deep enough understanding of what a supply area or throughput is, how to manage fuel, how you've capitulated Belgium three times but are still fighting them in your rear, or wtf combat width means. It's a testament to the complexity of all these systems that this creator has 90 guides and tutorials like this.
@DarylRosenberg01
@DarylRosenberg01 3 жыл бұрын
I think i'm too new to the game to understand this fully. I understand the size of squadron but do I assign them to an army? Or just a region? Both? Can an army have many squadrons assigned to them to do the same thing? Is it more important to assign them to an area? If I have 600 cas and make 10 squadrons and assign them all to a region is that what you are saying? I might have missed the point.
@ivvan497
@ivvan497 4 жыл бұрын
wow and all this time I was using either 100, 200 or +200 CAS air wings. Thanks for the tutorial. Do fighters work the same? Or should I just stack them in 1000k air wings? And strategic bombers? How does naval warfare works with land planes?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Most of what I said Works about the same as Fighters when looking at the efficiency side of things with the range. Fighters themselves don't have combat width based on an infantry number but if you have too many they won't engage in multiple different air battles but instead only one so a hundred Wing size is good for Fighters :-)
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but if its too large you will get penalties to plane org
@militarian9759
@militarian9759 4 жыл бұрын
Lol love the Arthur Harris bit
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@kaiserslavaniaashur1623
@kaiserslavaniaashur1623 3 жыл бұрын
I saw CAS ans thought “Create A Sim” and was confused as to how and why sims exist in hoi4
@echo5327
@echo5327 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve heard the sixty thing for cas before, do you know if the same thing also applies for naval missions? I.e. CAS or naval bombers attacking ships. I know smaller is generally better cause there’s a greater chance of sighting but is there a set number that works best?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Naval doesnt really matter for wing size, instead of the combat width for cas naval bombers send the wing size weather its 1 or 1000, each wing will engadge one battle at a time tho. I normally wake wing sizes of about 10-20 for naval bombers
@echo5327
@echo5327 4 жыл бұрын
Dustinl796 Videos oh ok interesting
@daflea66
@daflea66 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to target a territory rather than a gigantic zone that it always defaults to? I dont want my strikes to attack the entire western hemisphere burt rather units sitting in a very annoying mountain tile.
@nealm6764
@nealm6764 4 жыл бұрын
Came to see specifics on giving CAS orders, instead got to watch non stop army orders and nation management. Oh well.
@eclipse5119
@eclipse5119 4 жыл бұрын
Could you double stack say a 60 wing of CAS doing day only on an army and a 120 wing of CAS doing night only on an army to have 3 missions per day with efficiency making it so its effectively 60 cas hitting 3 times or am I understanding this wrong. (Also I will still give you a smiley face if you do a minor axis power guide)
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I dont see why not 😁
@JCRS2
@JCRS2 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never knew.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Aparently not alot of people did either
@fashig06
@fashig06 4 жыл бұрын
sorry for stupid queation. if there are no fights do cas still attack troops? also ive had a issue where my cas seem to do nothing even when attached to an army. checked air stats, no enemy troops bombed. checked the ticks and stuff
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
For the first part of your question no, they will only attack if there is a battle taking place somewhere. 2nd off like I said in the video they only attack is certain times a day oh, it is possible they're simply not able to make it in time or they just don't have enough range to make it to the battle
@ChristiaanHunter
@ChristiaanHunter 4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@cosmingrama9227
@cosmingrama9227 2 жыл бұрын
So it makes sense to stop an attack and restart it every 4 hours in order to get the double cas sorties, instead of gettingg 2 per day? This way you can do roughly 6 times more damage with your cas, but you will loose more planes... Good for pushing heavily defended tiles
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 4 жыл бұрын
I think that a 50% coverage means that only 50% of air wing makes it to the destination, therefore if you want 60 planes in a 50% zone, you need 120 planes, not 90. I forgot the formula, but the damage is number of planes times ground attack of that plane (so later bombers are better and CAS is better than medium bombers) times a small number and there is always half the damage to HP as to Organisation. I find Organisation damage to be more useful, because it wins battles, but enemy loosing HP is nice I guess. I think that damage to HP is damage to both manpower and equipment, so when a division looses 20 out of 100 HP, it looses 20% of both manpower and equipment. When a division has something like 7% HP (something below 10% HP, not sure), it vanishes and any equipment and manpower it had is lost. Anyway, having some infantry (or special forces, motorized or whatever) in each division really boosts both Organisation and HP. Since there is a 50% penalty at night and with day and night missions there is a 19 hour cycle of two missions, then rest, this gives an extra mission per 5 days or so, but it is probably better to just do CAS only during the day and do 2 missions each day, especially with air superiority. Don't forget there is an accident chance, so more missions mean more planes lost to accidents and if some of them are less effective because of night penalty, you're better off bombing during the day. If CAS is told to also attack ships, they will usually do CAS missions, but occasionally annoy or damage some ships. It isn't effective with just 50 or 100 planes, but if there are hundreds, they will occasionally sink something. While it may or may not waste bombing time when there are battles, it gives bombers something to do when there aren't any battles. In addition to shooting down enemy CAS, divisional AA also annoys them and reduces the damage that way. The only defence against having your planes shot down is to have more airplanes in a wing. Therefore it is a good idea to have airwings on normal operations rather than no retreat, because it will waste fewer planes when air wings are under strength, same for fighters. 10 wings of 50 bombers per 24 divisions and 5-10 wings of 100 fighters per 24 divisions works pretty well against weak enemies, but may not be enough against a major power. I like air wing sizes that can stack up to 200 because that's the airport size, so while 60 or 120 may be optimal for front-line coverage, 50 or 100 or even more works too, especially if they can split to multiple battles. Exercising CAS helps them a little against enemy fighters, but is less important than exercising fighters. I recommend deploying large air wings, like 800 (because it is convenient with the +100 button), exercising them to the max (exercising them more makes very little air XP, so it is probably not worth the fuel and attrition), then splitting those large wings in half several times and finally assigning those smaller wings (they keep the training level) to armies. EDIT: With 1.9+ you can shift+sexercise and they will only train as high as they can, then stop and save fuel and equipment.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like you put as much work into that post as I did the video LOL
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 Much of it is based on this old guide: forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/air-mechanics-combat-mission-quick-guide.947290/ Anyway, I think this video is below your usual standards and you should consider re-making it.
@vladt2844
@vladt2844 4 жыл бұрын
Wow..
@vladt2844
@vladt2844 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 gotta question: in an armoured divizion, wich is better motorised artilery and motorised at or td and spg???
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 4 жыл бұрын
@@vladt2844 Motorised anything will be cheaper than a tank variant. A tank variant will usually be better and provide some Armour (so weak infantry may not be able to pierce it, it is why "Space Marines" work) and Hardness (changes the weighted average between enemy soft and hard attack, so it's good, especially in a Tank division). If you want a mobile artillery, you also have the option to research Motorised Rocket artillery. The upside is that it only has one model and it gets more soft attack with research. The downside is that to upgrade it, you need to research rockets and rocket artillery.
@jiawenzhu5915
@jiawenzhu5915 2 жыл бұрын
I just put 1000 planes while I play single. Do not find any problems. They changed it?
@erikrodrigues2733
@erikrodrigues2733 4 жыл бұрын
Idk if someone already said that, but you don't need a fixed amount of planes in a wing for cas. Why? In a update, don't ask me which one, but it was in 1.5.x if I ain't wrong, that the wing will split their planes between battles to fill the max amount of planes each battle. The max number would be only apply with aces. There is also doctrines that helps/reduces the amount of CAS you can use per battle. Terrain and the concealment advisor also influences the amount of planes will provide cas.
@patbrennan6238
@patbrennan6238 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna say it was with WTT
@erikrodrigues2733
@erikrodrigues2733 4 жыл бұрын
@@patbrennan6238 1.5 is WTT update
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I pointed that out in the video that they will split off and go do other missions, the only thing is behind the scenes in the code there are small penalties assigned that don't show up in battle for the planes essentially splitting off. Mostly it affects the organization of the planes though
@patbrennan6238
@patbrennan6238 4 жыл бұрын
@@erikrodrigues2733 I know. I chose to say WTT instead of 1.5.0
@erikrodrigues2733
@erikrodrigues2733 4 жыл бұрын
@@patbrennan6238 Oh, now I got what you said =D
@m.m6990
@m.m6990 4 жыл бұрын
thx
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@masterz105
@masterz105 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any specific reason you have both a line of both Inf. Weapons I and II? Think that's the first time i've seen that and am curious.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the reason I always do it is because the better infantry equipment you get is more expensive to make, I always have two lines one of outdated equipment so there's a constant Surplus my troops will have if they start running low but I have the second line going so the best equipment will actually still fill the divisions and give the bonuses
@aletoledo1
@aletoledo1 4 жыл бұрын
You mean in production? I will produce older types of infantry weapons (basic weapons + weapons 1) because they are cheaper to produce. Basic weapons produces 25% faster than weapons 1. So if I'm doing a massive mobilization prior to war and I want to just create cheap units to fill the line, then I produce both types. My attacking units get the the good stuff and I will turn off the better equipment on the template of the reserve units. later on I will delete the older weapons, but not until I have all the units churned out.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much yeah
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I like also making old rifles too. The production on 30 mills is like 40 more a day, and you also still get the bonuses with new eqptment
@whiggles9203
@whiggles9203 4 жыл бұрын
Insurance companies love Sir. Arthur Harris, everybody loves Sir. Arthur Harris
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Not fire insurance companies they sure didn't -_-
@fruze8478
@fruze8478 4 жыл бұрын
That invasion of Poland was silky smooth
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx to my cas 😁
@deathadder
@deathadder 4 жыл бұрын
How do you define zone? Should I have 60/120 cas per province/individual battle on the frontline?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much what you said 😁
@deathadder
@deathadder 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 thanks! Love the vid!
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@EpicGamer-gw4sw
@EpicGamer-gw4sw 4 жыл бұрын
Is good channel. Hope you get out of hospital safe
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx
@TheReaper569
@TheReaper569 4 жыл бұрын
Wow i never knew this. I only made 200 plane stacks and send them there
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Well glad to help :-)
@Shhtteeve
@Shhtteeve 3 жыл бұрын
every youtuber ever 'im sick today' XD
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii 4 жыл бұрын
If you're not worried about losses, is there any reason not to do Day & Night bombing?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Not rlly,
@MeinungMann
@MeinungMann 4 жыл бұрын
Dude can you make a short video on how to use fleet? I'm too afraid to bother doing it even as UK even though I have 1000+ hours
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I actually do have an naval guide on my main Channel page :-)
@MeinungMann
@MeinungMann 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 ok, I Will give it a look, thank you
@bazingagamer1266
@bazingagamer1266 4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video of tips for multiplayer?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest that's not a bad idea. I might try that
@eq55
@eq55 4 жыл бұрын
That'd be spicy to watch tbh.
@0Turbox
@0Turbox 4 жыл бұрын
Does it make sense adding CAS to armys and to the region of battle?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I say so because that way, they will automatically move if there are too many planes in the base
@Mazzzaq
@Mazzzaq 4 жыл бұрын
Really noob question here, what region do I want to put my planes if the battle is right on a border of an air region? For example if I am France and I am defending the Maginot line against Germany, do I assign my planes to do missions in Germany or in my land to help defend against Hitler?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
If its on the border, if defending you side, if attacking the other side. You can also select the air wings and right click your army they they will auto move and go where needed
@AndreasP07
@AndreasP07 3 жыл бұрын
what happens if you fly over a zone (f.e. with TAC's) you don't control to reach another zone
@PussInMass
@PussInMass 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really get into the numbers, but it seems to me that when the coverage penalty is 50%, you should send twice as more planes, not just 1.5 times more. Or the formula is more complex than i think it is?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Yea thats what i meant
@mimoahmed9231
@mimoahmed9231 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting confused about one thing, I'm playing as Finland and holding the line agaisnt Soviet USSR. I've 100 TAC. Bomber in the northern front and i can't see them doing anything against the attacking soviet forces. But they did appear when i tried attacking Norway So, CAS and TAC doesn't help me in defending? Just attacking?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
It sort of depends, the more air support you have up the more damage you're going to do but really the planes will only help in one battle per certain amount of plans, so among aligned with the Soviets like Finland while dealing with I would assume a limited production of them probably a couple thousand planes and total that would only be enough to affect maybe a quarter of the battles
@billyjackson2605
@billyjackson2605 4 жыл бұрын
when would tactical bombers ever be used? I usually go hard with CAS and tend do well still
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
when you need to swap quickly between cas and strat bombing.
@davidbock6276
@davidbock6276 4 жыл бұрын
when range is an issue.
@DrICHundrannere
@DrICHundrannere 4 жыл бұрын
Wasnt it always the case that 1 Airwing can split onto multiple battles but one battle can only have planes from one airwing active? So in short: wouldnt it be easiert to just have multiples of 60 or just straight up a full 1000 stack for convenience?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
They can split but they are not as effective and suffer small penalties
@tonymccolley1382
@tonymccolley1382 4 жыл бұрын
So does that mean if I am playing single-player where AI tend to go for 18 width divisions (I believe), the best wing size for CAS and Tactical would be 54?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much yes, I would still recommend either 60 or 120 since the AI tries for some reason to make 27 width
@fadope1612
@fadope1612 3 жыл бұрын
Is the air wing size still 60 and 120? or 100?
@me1sTerweeD
@me1sTerweeD 4 жыл бұрын
I had a hoi4 together for victory ad in this video.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Lol,
@YHSun-ux1cr
@YHSun-ux1cr 2 жыл бұрын
very thorough, tho in late game CAS must be used in thousands. or you loose your ace real fast
@jctafrotc0011
@jctafrotc0011 4 жыл бұрын
Are planes vulnerable while conducting training ops?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
If your at war? Yes. If not no
@Sky4Jus
@Sky4Jus 3 жыл бұрын
"My CAS pushin through Poland very easily" - says that while playing 1939 Germany where even noob can defeat Poland as Germany easily
@darthnihilus1572
@darthnihilus1572 4 жыл бұрын
From where you get that you get penalties if your CAS split from a huge size wing? even if that happen, they way you show how you put 5-6 60 size wings into the army make them inefficient. (btw you take a long time just to say that if you have 50% coverage you need 50% more to counter that...something that by math you can see is wrong...). Also, is this some kind of basic tutorial or a mix with something more "advance"? since you leave out something basic like you should put your CAS in the zone where is the army defending, or if that high AA make you dont take/do any damage from CAS
@aletoledo1
@aletoledo1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hadn't heard about any penalties for planes having to divide. I used to use the 60/120 system, but since terrain penalties come into play, along with the mission efficiency, I don't think it's worth the extra micro. I mean can you imagine adjusting wing size every time the front line advances to a new tile, to adjust for it being a mountain or an urban tile. I find that there is more issues with airfield size.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much for every single plane that splits off from the Air Wing to go engage in a completely different battle it's between 5 and 50% of the organization for the plane will be removed
@Voivode
@Voivode 4 жыл бұрын
In case no-one has corrected your math at around 5:40 yet: You say 50% coverage + we want 60 planes there => 60+50%=90 ... but 50% of 90 is 45 planes right? What you do is: take the percentage as a fraction 50% => 1/2 => invert the fraction: 2/1 => multiply 60 with 2 = 120. 50% of 120 = 60 planes. Say you have 30% coverage. 3/10 => 10/3 => 200 planes should do the trick and send 60. You can do it without a calculator most of the time: 43% coverage? 60*100=6000 /43 = (100 + (1700/43= roughly 40 [1720/43=40]))= 140 planes should work. You can also divide your 60 by the percentage: meaning 60/0.3 = 200. Needs a calculator most of the time, though. 60/0.43 = 139.5. Easy & precise. Have fun.
@Voivode
@Voivode 4 жыл бұрын
Also ever wanted to know, how many more troops logistic wizards can field? 20% less consumption = 4/5 consumption => 5/4 the troops => 25% more...
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
-_-
@artificernathaniel3287
@artificernathaniel3287 4 жыл бұрын
So set a wing of 60 CAS for day ops and a wing of 60 CAS for night ops and you get 3 strikes! :O
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could just enable them for both :-)
@jackjack-sm2jg
@jackjack-sm2jg 3 жыл бұрын
Is there optimal wing size for fighters?
@keris8708
@keris8708 3 жыл бұрын
100 fighters per wing
@maDbiL
@maDbiL 4 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to Tactical bombers doing CAS?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, anything doing cas missions
@thecutedoglola6604
@thecutedoglola6604 4 жыл бұрын
The Dresden bombing was Harris’s most kills per match
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Oof, unless hou look at truman's kdr in 1945
@erensametkaratas6593
@erensametkaratas6593 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a quick way to deploy air wings easily? I mean, let's say you have 2k CAS planes, and you want to deploy them by 60, 60, 60... It's gonna take a long time and at some point, it gets boring. Is there a quick way to do that?
@davidbuckley2435
@davidbuckley2435 4 жыл бұрын
Deploy airwings of 960/480/240 and hit D until the wings are the size you are looking for
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Well you could deply and split the planes if you use some math, on a calculator just multiply 60 until you get close to the 2k, so 60, 120, 180, 240, 300, and so on. With 2k cas you can just put 900 in 2 wings then just split them both till your at 60
@erensametkaratas6593
@erensametkaratas6593 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Thank you both.
@__-yu8vi
@__-yu8vi 3 жыл бұрын
"HOI4 is perfectly designed game with all features properly documented"
@chillaxo9863
@chillaxo9863 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...
@fetts4ck849
@fetts4ck849 4 жыл бұрын
Holy snap all these numbers... when i play with my friends as axis trio i just build a second floor avove the ground out of CAS, like 8k avove an air zone, and them roflstomp the enemy, like killing 30k soviets a day without losing a single german soul
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't Hearts of Iron 4 math simulator wonderful?
@Vodkavsky
@Vodkavsky 4 жыл бұрын
could you make a video which explains what could be the bad parts of using thousands upon thousands of every type of aircraft and doing every mission. (besides the fact that you will use all of the manpower in the entire soviet onion and then some.) Also, is it better to have planes do every single mission they can, or have seperate wings to do each individual type, or should you limit it to the traditional role of that plane, i.e. Have fighters/heavy fighters/rocket interceptors do interception and air superiority, close air support only doing close air support, strategic only doing strat, and tac only doing cas and strat. Also, are rocket interceptors at all good to use? Probably a bit too much for one video lol.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I'll try to start working on it tonight or tomorrow:-)
@Vodkavsky
@Vodkavsky 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 Thank you sir, sincerely, your local HOI IV noob who uses lots of mods and cheats
@theloser8109
@theloser8109 3 жыл бұрын
What are cas's called in rt56?
@beefyblom
@beefyblom 4 жыл бұрын
What you forgot is that the AI doesn't care about combat width and will just put whatever in the template
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Which is why you still do 60. You know they will at least minimum have a 20 width and if you look for some reason the AI tries to make between 24 and 28 width divisions in the majority of the time they're all 27
@VLSG
@VLSG 4 жыл бұрын
the Arthur Harris joke lmaoo
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
;)
@fuser312
@fuser312 4 жыл бұрын
I miss air generals, navy has it's admirals, army have their generals and field Marshalls but for some reason no historical generals for airforce.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Soon man the wings dlc will add those 😂
@fashig06
@fashig06 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 Man the wings
@introboy1
@introboy1 4 жыл бұрын
things the man 2 v soon coming co update massive Things the Man
@introboy1
@introboy1 4 жыл бұрын
reversed got text My
@introboy1
@introboy1 4 жыл бұрын
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@wjbqmzl4223
@wjbqmzl4223 4 жыл бұрын
Love ur video, hope you can recover soon. Quick Question: how to update equipment more efficiently during a long great war?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Thx, and pretty much just swap your production to the new equipment and it will auto apply
@voyomaypl1608
@voyomaypl1608 4 жыл бұрын
My airwings still do little dmg (4 org per battle). I don't know if it's my fault or what. Details below. I use ~1000 cas per regio, ~63 wing size. 100% air supr. Day&night misions. To be completely honest sometimes cas do good dmg (~90 org per battle) but it's so rare that I prefer to just produce tanks because of cost-effectivnes. And of course cas doctrine, I almost forgot.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest I'm not entirely sure what would be causing that
@voyomaypl1608
@voyomaypl1608 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 well, I guess I'll spam some more cas wings then. Btw great vid
@voyomaypl1608
@voyomaypl1608 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 uoy said that cas do masive dmg to equipment. So it should be great combo to use cas and maitnance comp right?
@Maj_Problem
@Maj_Problem 3 жыл бұрын
Arthur "they cant retreat if you burn the street" Harris
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 3 жыл бұрын
This comment has been selected as a war crime
@Maj_Problem
@Maj_Problem 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 Arthur "to prevent the blitz you must burn fritz" Harris
@holguineromambi
@holguineromambi 4 жыл бұрын
Is it the same with other nations like Japan?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is the same for all nations sense its a base mechanic like combat width
@T0750
@T0750 4 жыл бұрын
My airwings are always made up of 1000 planes...lol, i guess ive been doing it wrong.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Only slightly 😁
@sacer666
@sacer666 4 жыл бұрын
... Wait... You can add airwings to armies with rightclicking on them in the theater menu to the right?!
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Yup 😁
@sacer666
@sacer666 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 Like over 1k hours in the game and I had no idea about this holy hell. This makes it all so much easier , always pressed the + sign and got so sick of it after a while I stopped assigning planes to them.
@aaronhamric7679
@aaronhamric7679 3 жыл бұрын
Has this advice changed much with the recent air changes?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 3 жыл бұрын
nope
@teotfm143
@teotfm143 3 жыл бұрын
im playing as colombia and attacking venezuela, i have over 400 fighters and 1500 cas and enemy has 0 planes, and it was all worikng out well for a while , cas dealing a LOT of dmg and suddenly it just fucking stoped doing anything, they refused to join any battle whether on offenisve or defence, i reorganized them into smaller and bigger air wings i deleted them and recreated them i restarded the game nothing has worked.
@williamsessions4110
@williamsessions4110 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how you assign airwings to a specific battle. I can only assign to areas e.g. Western Germany
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
If you right click a general or Army Group after you've selected the Cas make sure you also select the missions you want them to carry out
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Would you mind doing one on the best ways to steat bomb?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Actually i have a strat bombing guide if you search my channel
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 cool thanks!
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
😁
@omarenriqueguzmanlopez3522
@omarenriqueguzmanlopez3522 4 жыл бұрын
American player while nuking berlin..... BOMBERRRRR HARIIIIIISSSSS!!!!!!
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Nah man..... DEWIEEEEE TRUMANNNNN!!!!!!
@sickre
@sickre 4 жыл бұрын
Take Pseudoephedrine if you're getting sick
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Uhh.... no
@MalleusSemperVictor
@MalleusSemperVictor 4 жыл бұрын
*Looks at Strat Bomber* Is this a type of CAS?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Well if it can't bomb divisions? Then no
@MalleusSemperVictor
@MalleusSemperVictor 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 She'll do what you want... Oh, yes...
@FireflyDivision
@FireflyDivision 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF YOU HAVE AIRWINGS OF 1 PLANE ONLY 1000 AIRWINGS OF 1 PLANE
@ShortT-RexLikeArms
@ShortT-RexLikeArms 4 жыл бұрын
Arthur "Dresden? Raze 'em" Harris
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine having that nickname in high school?
@nikolaossoumis1101
@nikolaossoumis1101 4 жыл бұрын
But aces get penalties if they are assingned to an airwing larger than 100 planes, making then less efficient with 120 cas airwings
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
May have a point there but I'm pretty sure the penalties are worse for the planes splitting off in the other battles if they are a hundred
@nikolaossoumis1101
@nikolaossoumis1101 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 You also have a point there.
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
😊
@toast7664
@toast7664 4 жыл бұрын
Unlimited Stuka
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
(Stuka siren in background)
@rajmodi7437
@rajmodi7437 4 жыл бұрын
Where are you from in USA Dustin 79 6
@user-rw2ll7ly8n
@user-rw2ll7ly8n 4 жыл бұрын
england >?
@charlesb8230
@charlesb8230 4 жыл бұрын
North Carolina
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
One of the Carolinas :-)
@rajmodi7437
@rajmodi7437 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 which city firefighters
@lukebell8591
@lukebell8591 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos mate but that calculation hurt me
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
How do you think i felt after researching it 😂
@lukebell8591
@lukebell8591 4 жыл бұрын
Dustinl796 Videos haha!
@dedrickhermine6974
@dedrickhermine6974 4 жыл бұрын
I thought HP is about manpower, however, when soldiers die, 70% of their equipment loses?
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Well sort of, HP is the equipment itself and once the equipment is lost whatever troops that were in use for that equipment are lost as well
@earlkentsucalit3301
@earlkentsucalit3301 3 жыл бұрын
How do you attack poland in 1939 without britain guaranteeing
@muzawx2732
@muzawx2732 4 жыл бұрын
Could you add subtitles
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently talking with somebody to see if I can pay them to start doing it but to be totally honest it's very difficult. Usually every minute of video takes about an hour for subtitles to be made
@muzawx2732
@muzawx2732 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinl796 thanks for trying , is there any template guide for mods like Total War , hearts of oak or bice . Normal templates are too expensive for these mods
@dustinl796
@dustinl796 4 жыл бұрын
Not to my knowledge because mods can have different setups and different rules along with specifications
@jtfike
@jtfike 4 жыл бұрын
So just send 500 and accept the penalties because that is better than not having full coverage.
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