Hoka Mach 6 vs Asics Novablast 4

[@kuriosites]

These comparison documentaries are very informative and entertaining. I look forward to them each morning. I hope you are starting to get some of these shoes sent to you free. I put a ton of miles in the Novablast 2 & 3 and both had that heel to forefoot separation. As a midfoot striker, I never noticed it on the run. I also was able to pick up the pace decently because they weren't overly soft and the cushion allowed me to open up my stride and put a lot of force down.

[@supwell]

Thank you! And it's so interesting that the separation is a feature across the model years - I haven't figured out what the benefit of it is yet but there must be something that has them keeping it alive

[@Runstrong_Chris]

Finally, I was able to replicate how you double-tie your shoe laces after seeing you tie the Novablast 4. No more floppy laces🙌🏾

[@Whitsel7]

Great review! Any chance you can review the superblast?

[@benjacksonn]

I haven’t watched this yet, but I clicked because How can this video be an hour long?

[@stayer85]

Try Under Urmour Velociti 3.These shoes and 1080V13 are my favourite 23/24 shoes

[@drone9082]

I found the 1080v13 felt narrow and wobbly which seems to be what Y is saying about Mach 6.

[@pseudoty]

I use the Superblast for everything including treadmill runs, but except for rain (Puma DN2) and race day any reason to consider the NB4?

[@supwell]

I haven't run in the superblast yet but from how versatile that shoe is supposed to be you probably don't need to add the novablast

[@ielle.]

Reason = $

[@redscap17]

superblast and novablst 3 are really slippary

[@duplomacette]

38:24 that’s what she said

[@valsoriano4675]

eyes on the road bruh.

[@timtrenholm3698]

I want to try the NB V4, but so far the NB V3 has been a godsend. Wore it last night in my 2nd workout of the day at marathon pace/power+ and exceeded targets and never once did I think about the shoes, or felt the shoes were holding me back. When I really should have been a bit tired from my 1st workout in the morning. Maybe I've just had a fitness bump, but when I run and I don't even THINK about the shoe....that's what I want. NB V4 I think would be more easy/steady/pure long run shoe. Which isn't bad....but the range (5k pace up to 32KM+ runs) the NB V3 gives me is money!

[@ielle.]

To me the NB4 is definitely a slight step down in terms of top-end pace, but I still hit a lot of the same paces as I was hitting in the NB3 with nearly the same perceived effort. It's just that once I'm approaching 10k pace and faster, I notice the NB4 on my feet slightly more than I did the NB3. I think the 4s are more rockered and the 3s were slappier, so in the later stages of longer runs I like the NB4 for that reason. It's also just a much more stable and comfortable shoe all around. I think the 4 could be worn for casual use more comfortably than the 3. The 3 has more of a trampoline effect and more bounce and it's like ASICS had to nerf it like Saucony nerfed the Endorphin Speed 1&2 so that we'd buy their other premium shoes. I have 457 miles on the 3 and they're still going strong, and I still feel they have a little pop amazingly enough. The rubber is a little smooth but I still feel protected by the midsole. I'm a very light and efficient runner so I think I'll be getting to 500+. I'm approaching 160 miles in the 4. There are signs of wear and slight deteriorations in the rubber but I believe I'll be getting a similar amount of miles out of these too.

[@MrJo3kr]

I am a heavy runner (220ish) and I absolutely love my Novablast 4’s for everyday miles and long runs. Super supportive and comfortable. I do notice the heel to toe slap thing when I’m running slow for warm ups and/or not paying attention

[@aaronpetro8104]

You need to review the super blast!

[@samueldavid2114]

Hey man, quick question hows the hoka Mach 6 going rn? And how many km already?

[@supwell]

I got it up to 60 miles and gave it to a friend because the fit wasn't right (I had a half size too small). I enjoyed all my runs in the Mach 6 though and recommend it if you want a fun and bouncy shoe

[@pete801]

Awesome reviews. Those super white colourways though. Wouldn't do very well here in the UK ☔

[@MiracleWarriors]

The first run I did with my Gel-Cumulus 26 was just after a hard rain and I found the grip really good . At least for a 5:40 km/min pace/ moderate speed for me. And the shoes almost seem they have no grip, kind smooth transition from heel to toe. And this Nova Blast 4 looks like they have a tick rubber and should provide good ... but is not the case. Shame on you, Asics !

[@snowwalker9999]

I like my NB 3 so much I bought a second pair on sale. So I’ll be good this year until the 4 goes on sale. I’m just not sure if I’ll getting the 4 or The rebel v4 even though they are different shoes. I have the DN2 & Superblast for my long runs. However if you’re a fan of NB3 at some point you have to try the next version to appreciate the difference in design and technology.

[@ielle.]

I feel like the 3s pick up the pace a bit better, but the 4s are more comfortable for long runs. I like the NB4 for long-ish runs (like up to a half marathon) that are on the easier to a little moderate side, whereas the Superblast I use for my longer long runs (14+ milers) and the FF Turbo is a little awkward for LSD use so I like them most for progression long runs or long runs where there's a handful of quality miles mixed in. They're sooo smooth at HM and M pace. For LSD I've been using the Triumph 21.

[@snowwalker9999]

@@ielle. We have the same shoes and use them for the same purpose ( triumph 20). I’ll be getting the NB4 at some point this year. Until then Superblast/DN3 & and the Triumph are my long run shoes. Shoes designed for long runs without any plate are the best do it alls IMO

[@abelimages]

Breaking new ground with the scratch test. Added value for sure. Spreading the word for your channel.

[@ajmartinez1906]

Great Review on both shoes. In comparison of Apples and Oranges, and despite having a plate in the shoe. How would you describe the difference between Mach 6 and the DVN 2?

[@aravaluska954]

Don’t even try to take the novablast on a Rainy day unless you want to go skiing 😬

[@philipppuchner1115]

At the beginning: Novablast 4 FIRM? WHAT? That thing is SOFT. it is a little less soft than the NB3, where you swim, but FIRM? I mean, i don't know your weight and point of reference. If the NB4 is firm to you, the Superblast must feel like a brick for you. For my 90kg it is bouncy :) Noosa Tri 15 are too firm for me after 6-7km on the road, Kinvara 14 is too stiff. GT-2000 12 is stiff like a brick! Unrunable! Searching for a shoe that absorbs shock but isn't too sinky soft and doesn't bottom out. So, an upgrade/alternative to my Novablast 4 TR :) I've ordered: Brooks Ghost Max (1), Noosa Tri 16 and Hoka Mach 6. The Rebel v4 I didn't, because due to reviews it's too wide and too soft.

[@drone9082]

Novablast 4 tongue doesn’t have a loop on top of it. I find the tongue slides down and bunches up a little bit.

[@davidg9120]

I like using the novablast for slow recovery day miles. I haven’t used it for long runs yet as I have been using plated shoes for the long run.

[@Simon-bv3zo]

Would you say the novablast 3 is better for mid foot strikers than the 4 or just to go with the Mach because I have issues with shoes that cause that slapping of the forefoot sometimes

[@supwell]

if you have issues with the slapping then definitely go with the mach. i didn't try the 3 but i've heard from other runners that it has a similar shape that causes the disconnected feeling

[@stuarthys9879]

I enjoyed the documentary style review! I just got the Mach 6 and normally I size up a half for running shoes, but I tried the Mach 6 in store and realized I needed to go up a full size. I’ve only done one run, but so far it’s great. Bouncy and feels like a great all round shoe which is what I was looking for

[@stuarthys9879]

PS. The comparison with the Nike Pegasus was also interesting. I used to have the Pegasus37 and they were awesome except that I found them a little too narrow. The fit with the Mach 6 seems better (after going up a half size)

[@Timle1991]

Just got the Rebel V4 in and can feel the mid foot arch bump in my right foot. I love the Rebel V3, which shoe did you find more similar the Rebel V4 or the Mach 6?

[@supwell]

did a comparison video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJSQiZ6Yd6unacksi=op21UfsKAtlXjv7g rebel v4 has the groundfeel and lower stack of the rebel v3 but the hoka mach 6 foam feels more similar to the rebel v3. so depends if you like that lower feeling or the bouncy foam more. btw, some people mentioned they fixed the bump issue by putting in a different insole from another shoe

[@jembesjembes1]

So… if you were to pick one shoe for training - would you choose the Mach 6 or Revel v4?

[@khaledmorsi1782]

Great review, thanks you! Which one would be softer on the joints?

[@the1ofus]

One day we will get a one hour yowana video

[@ihussain1011]

I appreciate you did this video but I don't think there is a Mach 6 equivalent shoe just yet in the ASICS line up, probably the closest one would be Cumulus 26 but that's a slower and more relaxed feeling shoe.

[@femaciel]

Yes, Cumulus 26

[@drone9082]

If you take the insoles out, the Mach 6 feels like it has a “plate” and the Novablast 4 is soft.

[@razorree]

strange, eveyone says that Novablast is fast and springy

[@supwell]

I've heard that about the previous generations too - I didn't have a chance to try the 2 or 3, but a lot of runners have told me they were faster and bouncier than the 4. I'd go for the Mach 6 or Adizero SL2 if that's what you're looking for!

[@peterkirktenor]

feverishly looking for second hand endorphin shift 3's......

[@casd747]

I have both and I love mach 6 better :) both are great though

[@otterawa4114]

and For you , better mach 6 or nb 4 ?

[@stevescott5858]

Cumulus 26 👍

[@GFCoyleWVU]

Considering the Novablast 4 for my first full marathon at the end of May. Need to get something ASAP to begin breaking in. As someone who has never run a marathon, but is targeting a sub-4, do you think the Nova will do the job? Thanks!

[@supwell]

Absolutely! It's a super comfortable shoe and I love using it for 2+ hour long runs. If you want a racing shoe with a little lighter weight and more bounce, I'd suggest the Saucony endorphin pro 4. It's the best racing shoe I've tested for 4 hour marathon paces - super comfortable and durable. The novablast 4 is cheaper and is a better option for everyday runs, but the pro 4 will give you a little more pop on race day. It's really about whether you want a simpler shoe or something with a little more speed assistance

[@GFCoyleWVU]

@@supwell wound up getting the Novablast 4 today. Excited to take them out for a quick, easy run tomorrow and start getting them on my last few long runs probably next weekend. Your videos have been really helpful. I considered the Superblast and a variety of Saucony and Hoka models (I'm currently about 330 miles into my Mach 5s and looking to switch it up), but the Novablasts always felt better than everything else in the store. Hope it stays that way through the next month!

[@supwell]

@@GFCoyleWVUawesome choice! And they are a super durable shoe so you should have no issue with them staying nice through the race - they just get better with time and miles. Keep me updated on how it goes 💪🏽

[@GFCoyleWVU]

@@supwell I don't know if it was dumb or not, but I went ahead and wore the Novablast 4 on my long run yesterday morning. It was meant to be a 3-hour run with 2:15 at easy pace and the final 45 minutes at marathon pace, which for my goal is just about 8:51/mile. I felt tired the entire run and could only keep up my marathon pace for the first two miles at the end before I basically crashed. Only got about 18.5 miles, when my goal was to hit 20. Honestly, it wasn't too dissimilar from a 2:30 and :30 long run that I did last weekend in my Mach 5. I'm getting a little concerned about my ability to complete the marathon at all, much less sub-4. Do you think the Novablast will feel better the more I wear it? I'm kinda starting to get into a taper between now and May 26. I just need them to take me through 26.2, hopefully with an 8:51-9:00 pace, in a little less than a month! 🤞 For reference, my half PR is about 1:46.

[@supwell]

@@GFCoyleWVUcongrats on hitting multiple 3 hour long runs! That's pretty beast man. You're probably fatigued from all the training - the reduction in volume you have coming over the next few weeks will help you feel a lot fresher on race day. I would focus on recovery and sleep over the next few weeks to get the biggest benefit from those long runs. Those are some serious workouts - most elites cap their long runs at 2 hours or 2 hours 30 minutes, so you're really putting in the work hitting 3 hours consistently. As for the shoes, I would use them for your daily runs and see if they start to feel better. The biggest thing for a marathon shoe for me is that I feel comfortable and confident in it - if you've done 3 or 4 runs in it and it's not giving you that, then ditch it. My top recommendation if you exchange it for another shoe would be the Saucony endorphin pro 4 - I think I mentioned it to you before. And a 1:46 half suggests you can hit sub-4 for sure especially with all the long miles in training! I wouldn't stress about the time though - the marathon has so many variables and everything has to line up so perfectly to get that goal time. Either way man you've banked that fitness and got huge wins during training, which is what I like to focus on

[@Animejook]

then what do u think of the novablast 3?

[@timtrenholm3698]

Complete wrong direction for the Mach 6 to go. The rubberized EVA bottom on the Mach4/5 provided it's own level of firmness and rigidity, which the upper layer tamed out. It was fast yet cushioned enough. I just don't know what Hoka are trying to accomplish with the Mach6. I owned 2 pairs of Mach 4, it was a good shoe which had a wide range, smooth and stable. I've moved on from Hoka as a brand since the 5mm drop ain't my jam anymore. Thankfully, looks like the Mach 6 still keeps it's great lockdown across the foot and heel.

[@radoslavstoev4550]

That disconnected feel is what I hate about the Novablast 3. I am almost slapping the tarmac with every step. I also have the Mach 5s, which are way smoother in transitions, but lack the cushioning for longer runs(I am also 94kgs, which helps lol). I recently bought the Superblast on a great bargain and I am pleasantly surprised by the shoe - bouncier and much smoother heel to toe transition compared to the Novablast. I may try the Mach 6 in the future.

[@supwell]

Mach 6 is so smooth especially compared to the novablast. It's confusing that Asics doesn't just fix that disconnected issue since they don't have it in other shoes

[@samallen7959]

Love the reviews, dude! You ever get used to the fit of the Mach 6? Was thinking of getting a pair but tried on my usual size and it felt pretty tight

[@paulcarlson4230]

Great review,mach 5 was a lil firm for me,so by your review I will get the 6,I usually get the clifton which I have already, but need a new shoe im leaning towards the mach 6, 21k ok for 62 yr old or back to clifton 9,the reason I say is because although not a fast shoe I feel a lil better after if I have cushion, thank you so much

[@supwell]

The hoka mach 6 has a nice amount of cushion while still being lightweight. If you thought the Mach 5 was a little firm I think you'll love the 6! It's softer and bouncier

[@dynamike9248]

Great review on the Mach 6, finished all of those. Would love to hear you thoughts on how Mach 6 compares with Speed 4. Did hear you saying M6 reminds you of the Speed 2, which is interesting. Would you lean more towards M6 vs Speed 4 for that all-rounder role?

[@supwell]

Thank you! I'll add to the list for comparison - will get that one out once I've put some more miles in the Mach. But so far Mach 6 is a little softer, smoother and bouncier than the speed 4 - which is why it reminded me more of speed 2. the speed 4 has been a little choppy and awkward through 100+ miles for me

[@steevie76]

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, distracted driving claimed 3,522 lives in 2021. Safety first: two hands on the wheel 🚗

[@ethanlavoie4166]

The dad advice on this always appreciated

[@supwell]

💪🏽

[@존민TV]

mach6 win. I have both.

[@amirjon]

59min!! Oh man

[@st4331]

What a great review. I currently use Saucony Tempus (love this shoe) for my daily runs and Speed 2s for faster sessions, but I find the Speed 2s a bit too unstable when I'm getting tired. My main priority is for a recovery run shoe, which the Tempus is OK for, but a softer ride would be nice. I was considering the Novoblast, but all the reviews say it's quite a hard ride, so not what I'm looking for. The Mach 6, it seems, may have the soft ride I'm looking for, and possibly also replace my Speed 2s for faster runs. I've looked at most of your recovery run recommendations, but I much prefer lighter shoes than the highly cushioned shoes. So, simple question; could the Mach 6 be the answer? Will it handle the recovery runs with a nice soft ride, as well as the faster runs to replace my Speed 2s?

[@supwell]

Yeah I think the Mach 6 might be exactly what you're looking for - cushioned and comfortable but also fast and bouncy. The only thing I'd note is to make sure you get the right fit so it's not too snug for those recovery runs. Mine is way too tight true to size - but I tried another pair in the same size and it was perfect

[@st4331]

@@supwell Thanks. I do like a bit of space (Speed 2s are a touch tight, but I don't use them that often). They do a Mach 6 wide fit, which I'll be going for. There's a nice offer where I live, in Thailand, and can get 25% off, so quite a bargain.

[@st4331]

@@supwell I finally have the Mach 6 in wide fitting. Length is spot on; width gives plenty of room. For reference my feet wouldn't fit comfortably in the Triumph 21, though are fine in the ES3 and Tempus. I'd say the wide fit Mach 6 is just slightly roomier than the Novablast4 (I ended up getting them both).

[@thomasmueller77911]

my choice is the noosa 15... :)

[@PatrickStar-km1dm]

I need to get a new daily trainer for this summer. Any recommendations?

[@supwell]

These two are both great! I'd probably take the Mach 6 for summer specifically though - it's more breathable and lighter weight. Also nice fast and bouncy ride. The previous version Mach 5 was my go to all last summer!

[@PatrickStar-km1dm]

@@supwell Thanks for the reply. I've heard nothing but good things from the Mach 6 as well!

[@etsuogamez4921]

Where are those recovery slides from at @19:10?

[@supwell]

Hoka ora luxe! I love these things. Super comfortable

[@zachflores1505]

I think im the only one who didn’t like the novablast 3. I just didn’t enjoy it and started to get hot spots under the balls of my feet.

[@finnd4053]

I didn't enjoy the Novablast 3s either. I'm a lighter runner and they felt mushy and dead. I still can't believe Asics allowed themselves to sell a shoe that slippery. Shame on them for not fixing the grip issue for version 4.

[@sneakpick129]

Me too😅

[@PSBrathwaite]

So the Mach 6 is good for a 5k?

[@supwell]

Yes great choice for a 5k!

[@drone9082]

To check fit, I like to remove insoles and stand on them to see spacing at toes.

[@GiGi-fz7pp]

What socks do you wear?

[@brittonknaphus1425]

Feetures. Best socks in the game.

[@supwell]

Feetures or OS1st. Feetures elite light cushion socks have the perfect amount of padding and OS1st have wider toe boxes and different types of support for flat feet, plantar facsiitis etc. I usually wear Feetures but OS1st are good if you need extra support

[@rrryunaeju]

Hello! Can u also make a comparo between Boston 12 vs NB4 vs Mach 6? Thank you!

[@supwell]

in terms of Boston 12, it's good for faster runnign like the Mach 6 but a little firmer out of the box. I would take Boston 12 only if you're training for a marathon/planning on doing a lot of faster runs longer than 1 hour. Otherwise for shorter faster runs the Mach 6 is a much better option. And novablast 4 is better for longer and slower running

[@rrryunaeju]

@@supwell Oooh. Thank you for this. Didnt expect for you to actually notice 😅 For my case, Im planning to train for a half marathon this June. Maybe around 7:30-7:50min/km. Currently doing 10kms at 8min/km. Would you recommend the boston 12 as the trainers for me? Thank you again!

[@supwell]

@@rrryunaejuI would go for either the Mach 6 or novablast over the Boston 12 for that. The other two shoes are more comfortable. If you want something that feels a little faster I'd go Mach 6 and for more comfort the novablast

[@rrryunaeju]

@@supwell Oh wow. Thank you very much for this!! Ill be looking up for these shoes. And thank you also for the running videos, I enjoy them!

[@aaron81931]

Can you review some Altra's?

[@jonhuntficken1424]

Hey have you gotten to take the Mach for a longer run yet?