Hold them down -Epic the musical

[@EricKingOfWithers]

This is the darkest song in Epic

[@noxsiacnumberxv5718]

And that’s saying some shit 😨

[@leonglitch]

Jorge said the song after this was darker.

[@DeepikaGinger]

Yeah, though Thunder Bringer was pretty close

[@Joyride37]

I can’t wait for the musical to be complete and we can listen to Odysseus springing his trap and killing these guys. The song really makes your hate them

[@Athenabadassinthearena]

I so agree, I can't stop listening to this song even though the characters are evil. Its probably because of the amazing melody. When is the rest of the musical coming out, any idea?

[@kationa_avsl8328]

@@Athenabadassinthearena The Ocean and Circe Saga should be released this year, so this one we are not having it soon

[@Athenabadassinthearena]

@@kationa_avsl8328 ohh well I would have loved to listen to this one soon but the Circe Saga is also AMAZING, especially "Done for".

[@nottellingya9887]

You're not supposed to hate all the suitors. In the Odyssey, some of them wished no harm on Penelope or Telemachus. Iirc Odysseus tells one of them to leave the palace because he didn't deserve to die. Idk if Jay will go with that, but just to let you know

[@virginiad.1911]

I know omg, when i read the odyssey in 8th grade i fucking LOVED that book bc like…youve watched this man suffer for so fucking long, now he Finally gets to strike back

[@Leon-Blank-Draws]

"when the crown wonders where the prince is, only the ocean and i will know" the fact that they refer to penelope as "the crown" instead of "the Queen" implies that the men really only see the power of royalty that they can take (like taking the crown) or they see penelope as a prize to use eh, just wanted to share this cuz i can

[@Saruman_Ring-Maker]

Also he talks about her like a recently slaughterd animal at the end of the song

[@Su_Akemi]

When I heard that line, I thought “the crown” meant like a personification of the physical crown wondering where Telemachus was since he can’t wear it if he’s dead (idk if that makes sense)

[@DeepikaGinger]

I don’t like it either, but I’m glad that they acknowledge that Penelope represents the crown and it’s authority.

[@miabee6267]

“Hold him down while I slowly break his pride, his trust, and faith and his bones.” That’s the coolest example of Zugma ever!

[@Scipio12232]

Had to look that up. Hamilton's "I am not throwin' away my shot" is also an example, right?

[@headofathousandsheepswool]

why did i think this was a 'zugma balls' kinda joke 😭😭 can someone explain what this means?

[@miabee6267]

Zugma is like , “He broke her car and her heart” or “She beat him with words and belts”

[@headofathousandsheepswool]

@@miabee6267 Oh I see, thank you!

[@ked49]

Zugma? Zeugma

[@laurenpunch1053]

I wonder if this song made him feel icky writing this.

[@TANGL3_BURR]

He was probably feeling very icky writing the last part.

[@Annie-wy5mc]

I feel icky making story that involves SA and child SA so making this lyrics definitely gave him feel gross after he finished it

[@jpex_8359]

me vibing to a song about 108 men killing a young boy then sexually assaulting his mother:

[@dragonblast417]

Well if you out it that way......... 😐😐😬😬

[@themaraudertitan2079]

It's not our fault this song is a banger

[@jacobspalace2720]

do they actually succeed tho?

[@dragonblast417]

@@jacobspalace2720 three words: pissed off Husband.

[@karl1985]

Why you m us out. .

[@wrenbutts3267]

“When the crown wonders where the Prince is only the ocean and I will know” (1:38) is a killer line.

[@JamesVatcher]

Yeah I can just see him smiling at the thought of it as he says it

[@SonderConstruct]

Killer

[@aaliyahchothia203]

Quite literally

[@witko7460]

he will kill the suitors

[@moalze]

The violin at 2:07 is extremely sad knowing that Penelope is correlated to the violin in her motif 😢

[@Azar_1]

Its been said Penelope's instrument was a Viola by Jorge himself, But i love how he sets this stuff up! Like in Suffering when Siren 'penelope' is there, the way you can tell its not penelope is because theres no viola!

[@J.D.onthego]

It’s also the tone as Odysseus’s “Nooooo” in keep your friend close… 😢💔

[@pandoratheclay]

Even worse considering that in the circumstances, those are most likely screams

[@kylebecerril1547]

@@pandoratheclay Which means that to Antinuous, her screams are like music

[@pixlv6384]

Since King is the song right after this one, I like to imagine that in the literal beginning seconds of King's full version, Antinous just gets an arrow through the neck

[@layzyk]

@pixlv6384 Or when Odysseus tells his son to "Hold him down while I slowly break his pride, his trust, his faith and his bones." In a later part of the song.

[@pixlv6384]

@@layzyk I doubt that considering: 1. Antinous dies first in the Odyssey 2. They get a reunion song after King, so they probably didn't properly meet during King

[@layzyk]

@@pixlv6384 you are probably right, it would be epic af tho haha

[@layzyk]

​​@@pixlv6384btw I am pretty sure it is Odysseus' and Penelope's reunion in that song. Odysseus and his son fought them together in the odyssey. And this is based on the odyssey, not a replica. By example poseidon sinks most of the ships here while in the odyssey the giants do

[@pixlv6384]

@@layzyk have you listened to the song? It is explicitly about Telemachus telling his life so far and Odysseus reminiscing of Telemachus as a baby

[@ritajitpal]

finally someone compiled it in order!

[@vinn3790]

TW Allusions to SA at 2:00 to 2:16 please skip this part if your sensitive to that type of stuff!

[@pancat3]

You are amazing, thank you!

[@kaimichael5855]

My head canon they're actually planning telemachus' birthday 😂

[@TheMovieCuban]

Loved that version lol

[@rheamartin4529]

Actual lyrics: [ANTINUOUS] Screw this competition, we've been here for hours None of us can string this, we don't have the power Screw this damn challenge, no more delays Can't you guys see we're being played? This is how they [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold us down while the throne gets colder Hold us down while we slowly age Hold us down while the boy gets bolder Where the hell is our pride and our rage?! Here and now, there's a chance for action Here and now, we can take control Here and now, burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul! [ANTINUOUS] Haven't you noticed who's missing? Don't you know the prince is not around? I heard he's on a diplomatic mission And I heard today he comes back to town, so I say we gather near the beaches I say we wait 'til he arrives Then, when he docks his ship, we can breach it Let us leave now, today we can strike and [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold him down, till the boy stops shaking Hold him down while I slit his throat Hold him down while I slowly break his Pride, his trust, his faith, and his bones! Cut him down into tiny pieces Throw him down in the great below When the Crown wonders where the prince is Only the ocean and I will know! [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] And then we'll Hold her down while her gate is open Hold her down while I get a taste Hold her down while we share her spoils I will not let any part go to waste! Here and now, there's a chance for action Here and now, we can take control Here and now, burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul and Hold 'em down, hold 'em down Hold 'em down, hold 'em down

[@raymondmaglaris4149]

I'm sad this song is outside of my vocal range

[@celestialcelestia]

@@raymondmaglaris4149 what register? lower or upper?

[@celestialcelestia]

@@raymondmaglaris4149 dw, you still have other songs to sing!

[@raymondmaglaris4149]

@@celestialcelestia I'm sure you'll be glad to hear that with practice I found a key I can sing the whole song and reach every note with vibrato

[@celestialcelestia]

@@raymondmaglaris4149 YOOO CONGRATSS !!!!!

[@northcarrot6994]

2:03 who is she? who are they talking about?

[@nombreapellidosv3327]

Penelope

[@northcarrot6994]

@@nombreapellidosv3327 is he talking about raping her

[@doloresgronenberg5882]

Odysseus's wife Penelope

[@notapeopleperson6761]

The queen, Penelope

[@zebraroll2037]

​@@northcarrot6994he is End the son then taking what they want They dont get to do so and ody wns them all if i remember right

[@bannanamicammel1436]

1:16 (for me, don’t worry about it)

[@abigailcovington5450]

Did this song get cut?

[@k-imagine6255]

Not yet

[@spiritdreamer7974]

No, just not released yet

[@TopLaHats]

1:18

[@GrimCreeper349]

Why does this give me vibes of KSMP Winsweep?

[@raymondmaglaris4149]

Im sad this song is out of my vocal range

[@miracutetae9116]

This isn't in the main ablum is it???

[@jessnalulila5552]

Pretty sure it will be, but the Ithaca saga hasn't started yet

[@mariaheroia1678]

Is odyssey the one singing this?

[@ShadFitzCrow]

no, Antinous

[@mariaheroia1678]

@@ShadFitzCrow Thanks that makes much more sense now.

[@mariaheroia1678]

@@ShadFitzCrow Wait but why would he say hold us down while we get older? and can you tell me who is the boy if you know? lol I am interested in the story but don't know much about the Odyssey. Also who is "her"?

[@abaddondraws7705]

​@maria heroia Antinous is one of Penelope's suitors and when they say the boy they are referring to Telemachus Penelope and Odysseus' son! In short Antinous is trying to kill Telemachus and get with Penelope (and her is of course referencing Penelope) - Hope this helps!

[@mariaheroia1678]

@@abaddondraws7705 Your rock! This is just the explanation I needed. Now, I can enjoy this song knowing what the story actually is! Thank you

[@SharonBrown-g1k]

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[@rockininthesofa]

did anyone hear the "Telemachus birthday" version??? 😂😂😂

[@oolongtherabbit9131]

It was the first I saw and I thought it was the actual one 😭

[@Fruity_one]

​@@oolongtherabbit9131LMAO?!😂

[@theophilusalao2030]

I did 😂😂

[@Icannotfindmybrain]

YESS 🤣

[@UnicornGirl-cp4bt]

Wha...?

[@mutantsandmemes]

Honestly, Jay could sing the entire musical and I'd have no complaints 1:58 is especially chilling. I hope Ayron does this part justice 🤞🏼

[@marvinhubregtse5776]

extremly powerfull song but my god i cannot share this with anyone without atleast a trigger warning

[@AgaeteOfficial]

Gods I can´t wait for Odysseus to kill them all, I was seriously flabergasted with those lyrics, but the song is really good

[@Shoko-t3y]

2:00 this part literally made me want to throw up (AMAZING song though🙏)

[@jojess69]

r e a l

[@joesplace2960]

I think that’s the idea. Horrible, but it’s so catchy. I don’t know what that says about me.

[@davidgoldrock7264]

[ANTINUOUS] Screw this competition, we've been here for hours None of us can string this, we don't have the power Screw this damn challenge, no more delays Can't you guys see we're being played? This is how they [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold us down while the throne gets colder Hold us down while we slowly age Hold us down while the boy gets bolder Where the hell is our pride and our rage? Here and now, there's a chance for action Here and now, we can take control Here and now, burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul [ANTINUOUS] Haven't you noticed who's missing? Don't you know the prince is not around I heard he's on a diplomatic mission And I heard today he comes back to town, so I say we gather near the beaches I say we wait 'til he arrives Then, when he docks his ship, we will breach it Let us leave now, today we can strike and [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold him down 'til the boy stops shaking Hold him down while I slit his throat Hold him down while I slowly break his pride, his trust, his faith, and his bones Cut him down into tiny pieces Throw him down in the great below When the crown wonders where the prince is Only the ocean and I will know [ANTINUOUS] And when the deed is done The queen will have no one to Stop us from breaking her bedroom door Stop us from taking her love and more [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] And then we'll Hold her down while her gate is open Hold her down while I get a taste Hold her down while I share her spoils I will not let any part go to waste Here and now, there's a chance for action Here and now, we can take control Here and now, burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul and Hold 'em down, hold 'em down Hold 'em down, hold 'em down

[@kylee.jenner3610]

Damn the lyrics is dark

[@Poke9278]

Made up an entire extra verse from “Antinouous” but ok

[@zuziiice8907]

@@kylee.jenner3610 i mean, what else can we expect, we are talking about the old days where men are top and treat women like spoils.. granted in the original odyssey the suitors went for the maids and maidens of the household while they lodged and gorged themselves on telemachus and penelope's food.. and since telemachus was not of age to claim stake to the house, the suitors bullied their way in to make claim the hand of penelope. Back then if you lay the widow, you get the land.. least that is what it kinda read as, they were to win her affection and if not they'd take the house by force if they can by killing telemachus ergo truely making penelope the only one with the deed to the house..

[@kylee.jenner3610]

@@zuziiice8907 Lmao no thats not what I was talking about and in the old days, women and men are equal. There are literally alot of greek godesses and Athena or Aprodite are the most common godesses worship by greek soldiers

[@zuziiice8907]

@@kylee.jenner3610 ah, well guess it makes sense though begs the question why they wanna kill the kid when the kid can't take on the suitors..

[@shadow_ph4ntom952]

I actually started crying listening to this beautiful song. It is so tragic and heartbreaking but oh my god the melody and everything is just so good. Mr Jalapeno has done it again.

[@elenapilmeshec]

omg another Epic and Good Omens fan! Sorry, I'm just currently obsessed with both lmao

[@averyreynolds4266]

I really hope the final version of this song keeps the beat and the drive, it's so catchy.

[@brokefruit]

There is a missing line from this right before the part about Penelope and it's this "When the deed is done The queen will have no one to Stop us from breaking her bedroom door Stop us from taking her love and more"

[@brigibodor6201]

Wait how do you know? I couldn't find that anywhere

[@brokefruit]

Its on Genius and Fandom.

[@pyromisfits]

Why are villain songs always such bangers 😭😭😭

[@crazymae173]

God I can’t wait to hear this in Ayron’s voice

[@unstubblebubble8040]

I cant wait for this song the guy whos gonna voice him Sounds great

[@shiro4833]

Can't wait to NOT watch any animatics to this one, damn. That's like...REALLY DARK. Like it's a good song, but I definitely can't listen to it for long

[@Dan-uh3cs]

Ok shiro

[@Shadow-seeker]

So they are talking abt killing Odysseus’s son and sexually assaulting his wife? Is what I am understanding pls feel free to correct me if I am wrong

[@kat-parkernoodles5721]

Yup

[@bernardsheley5970]

Pretty much

[@templin7]

Yeah and King is right after this, soooo yeah Odysseus heard this whole thing and was just waiting for a good opportunity to start his slaughter.

[@garretthildebrandt428]

Wait... isn't that the same musical cue when they entered the Underworld? It's the "danger is near" theme. That's why.

[@princessnatasha21]

Oh crap this is scary yet soooo great!

[@spiritdreamer7974]

Anyone else notice the little sound at the very end? Almost sounds like the beginning of Athena's Quick Thought...?

[@la_pierre_tranquille]

When he says that only he and the ocean will know, he implies that he was going to kill everyone that was present, right?

[@orihime2u913]

I like the otger version 😅... This threw me off for a bit, so they chose another singer... Well it still seems like something I'm willing to pay for 😅 please make it happen already 🙏

[@IRllyLikeDeathSitter]

Pretty sure this is the demo, the guy that wrote the song (and the entire musical) sung it so others can audition. The one they chose will probably sing this entire song though, if I’m correct.

[@silly_spectacles2325]

GUYS WHERE DO I FIND ALL THE SAGAS😭😭😭😭

[@destinygist4442]

Just search up Epic the musical soundtrack on KZbin, at least two playlist should pop up. Click the one with the longer list of songs, that's the most recently updated version with all the songs

[@Annie-wy5mc]

The Sagas are not complete yet

[@lunathecat7073]

From which saga is this song?

[@user-qb9tb9wk4i1]

I think the Circe saga but I’m not sure

[@cn6cz9ee7y]

it's from the ithaca saga!

[@fandommemes8858]

hasn't been released yet, it (I think) is the 38th/37th song out of 40, so it'll sadly be one of the last ones to be released :( BBBUUUUTTTT, i shall continuously listen to this, BECAUSE IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD

[@mountainaesthetix__6605]

0:50

[@sarnadosmile3168]

Lyrics: [ANTINUOUS] Screw this competition, we've been here for hours None of us can string this, we don't have the power Screw this damn challenge, no more delays Can't you guys see we're being played? This is how they [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold us down while the throne gets colder Hold us down while we slowly age Hold us down while the boy gets bolder Where the hell is our pride and our rage? Here and now, there's a chance for action Here and now, we can take control Here and now, burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold us down While the throne gets colder Hold us down While we slowly age Hold us down While the boy gets bolder Where the hell is our pride and our rage? Here and now There's a chance for action Here and now We can take control Here and now Burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul [ANTINUOUS] Haven't you noticed who's missing? Don't you know the prince is not around I heard he's on a diplomatic mission And I heard today he comes back to town, so I say we gather near the beaches I say we wait 'til he arrives Then, when he docks his ship, we can breach it Let us leave now, today we can strike and [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] Hold him down 'til the boy stops shaking Hold him down while I slit his throat Hold him down while I slowly break his pride, his trust, his faith, and his bones Cut him down into tiny pieces Throw him down in the great below When the crown wonders where the prince is Only the ocean and I will know [ANTINUOUS] And when the deed is done The queen will have no one to Stop us from breaking her bedroom door Stop us from taking her love and more [ANTINUOUS, SUITORS] And then we'll Hold her down while her gate is open Hold her down while I get a taste Hold her down while we share her spoils I will not let any part go to waste Here and now, there's a chance for action Here and now, we can take control Here and now, burn it down to ashes Channel the fire inside your soul and Hold 'em down, hold 'em down Hold 'em down, hold 'em down

[@FoulFeather]

Was this song scraped ( I’m about late to the epic community, I known about it but just started filling Jorge before the thunder saga was released. Plz help

[@spacecatkin]

its not scrapped! this is just the demo of the song, and it wont be released until the next two sagas :]

[@FoulFeather]

@@spacecatkin oh ty, I believe I’m coming to realize that some of the songs aren’t scrapped just demos of what’s to come

[@krystalhenning968]

Did you get my comment

[@piggiewiggle9838]

Why is this not on Spotify? I'm so confused

[@k-imagine6255]

It has not been officially released yet.

[@murder8689]

It’s a pretty long musical being released currently, The Troy Saga, Cyclops Saga, Ocean Saga, Circe Saga, and Underworld Saga are currently available on basically all streaming services (Spotify included), the Ithaca Saga, the saga this belongs to, is the last saga of the show and if Jorge Rivera-Herrans (or Jay) continues releasing the sagas fairly quickly it might come out around the beginning of 2025

[@xxhidekenxx1593]

why is this song no longer in jorge´s youtube channel?

[@loxythewolf]

its never been there It has not been officially released yet

[@homuevaoi]

Because I ate the song

[@xxhidekenxx1593]

@@loxythewolf thx i didn´t knew