I was NOT prepared for *Full Metal Jacket*

This movie was so intense. I dont think I got over it.
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Original Movie: Full Metal Jacket (1987)
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[@aharonwilliams7195]

My uncle was a Marine during the Vietnam era. He said the boot camp portion of this movie is the most accurate film he’s seen about Vietnam.

[@Smokie_666]

We needed boots on the ground, so break them down, build them up and ship them out. Just how it was.

[@nealrepetti2396]

Buy the way Ames , I was in the NAVY and even though my boot camp wasn't like this, I watched the Marines trane and this is all true. It was brutal!

[@jkhoover]

I went into the Army 🪖 in '97. I heard all of these phrases, but I hadn't seen this movie yet. It took me a while to find out where all their phrases came from.

[@diojiabunai]

My father said the same thing. He was laughing and rolling around on the couch in fits screaming, "He's a Marine, that was my Drill Instructor!" Not Ermy, just Ermy's performance.

[@robertserna9628]

I went through marine bootcamp back in '06 and this was what it was like for us. They weren't supposed to be this cruel but they were big on keeping traditions alive.

[@Niinsa62]

The actor playing the Drill Instructor actually was a DI in the Marines. So no, this is not an over the top depiction of boot camp. He just did his normal drill instructor routine. He was supposed to be an advisor, not an actor, but he got the job because he was so good. The actor who originally was meant to play the DI got the job of door gunner on the helicopter instead. The guy who says "anyone who runs is a Viet Cong so I can shoot them. Anyone who stands still is a well disciplined Viet Cong!"

[@eatsmylifeYT]

If you're gonna comment about "the actor", why don't you mention the name of "the actor"? It's effing pointless just saying "the actor".

[@Parallax-3D]

@@eatsmylifeYT- The actor’s name is Tim Colceri.

[@SweetZombiJesus]

@@eatsmylifeYT Saying "the actor" or "R. Lee Ermey, the actor" doesn't make much difference in how well someone will understand his comment. The basic info is the same. I agree it's better to honour the man by giving his name, but it isn't "pointless" not to. Weird comment, man.

[@eatsmylifeYT]

@@SweetZombiJesus It's a basic guideline in writing. It's taught in school in English class.

[@eatsmylifeYT]

@@Parallax-3D You're talking about two actors here. Which one?

[@tomservo5007]

"he's gonna get strong, I just know it", you are in for a treat

[@ryanpauloneeyed9669]

Yeah, I felt really bad for her when she said that

[@stretchronin4148]

I feel bad cause it's only reason I watched this is to see the reaction as it steadily gets darker and darker cause it's a gut wrenching you reality check for most people

[@JosephSmithey]

Oh my God uh!😂

[@dam6075]

When she said that I completely lost myself 🤣🤣🤣. All I could think was, "you're in for a shock"

[@dartdukii]

i just thought: It ain't that kind of movie

[@agarwaenblade2644]

You are a sweetheart. Coming from a military family (both mom and dads side) seeing your reactions to those scenes was like oxygen. My maternal grandfather, who fought in Okinawa told me war stories when I was young and thought it was really important I knew how to correctly bayonett a person (and many other things). My dad was drafted into Vietnam and I know what he saw and had to do robbed him of his joy. War is not sane or human. When you are a kid you think the stories dad and grandfather tell you are "normal". They aren't.

[@JasonMoir]

RIP Lee Ermey, the actor who portrayed Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. Such a great role...and he wasn't really acting.

[@argetlam05]

He was the advisor for the drill sergeant part but instead of advising they just used him instead of the actor that was originally supposed to do it.

[@FlyinBrian777]

@@argetlam05 Tim Colceri (psycho door gunner scene) was the original drill sergeant but Ermey got picked instead.

[@alanholck7995]

Semper fi

[@moviewatcher1127]

He played the same role in Space Above and Beyond if you want to see a few more clips on youtube, he's still great there too.

[@squareone5699]

Roger that

[@212x3]

I met Gunny years before he died, he was very humble and kind to my wife and I at a military function. He was a treasure. RIP Gunny.

[@FieryVigil]

I've only ever heard good things about him.

[@bawbremy]

Fort Irwin.

[@johnlrose1979]

I live in Lancaster CA, where he lived, we had an Ave named after him, I have been to his house with my job since he died and its full of memorabilia.

[@Misfit710]

Outside of work most DIs are actually some of the nicest people you could ever meet. Just don’t get on their bad side at work

[@treyowen9213]

There will never be another good soldier like him.

[@mikedepue]

"He's gonna get strong I know it. In a couple months, he's gonna breeze right through it!" Well...

[@kool4209]

theres a breeze in his face

[@danielprivate7442]

FMJ is a unique war movie. There are no heroes. The main character (Joker) isn't remarkable in any way, rather he plays the part of "a reasonable man"...and the movie is the story of a reasonable man's war experience which ends with that reasonable man shooting a teenage girl in the face. Thus revealing the true horror of war as being the impact it has on otherwise decent men.

[@yedidyah-jedshlomoh1533]

War is the norm in history.

[@deBebbler]

NO ONE is ever prepared to watch this movie the first time.

[@Sir_Osis]

Especially not the millennials or zoomers. “OMG he’s calling them maggots” 😂

[@jdm1066]

I wasn't...I was 9 though.

[@ckmoore101]

This was my first date with my wife back in 1987. Hell of a way to start a long marriage. Still married.

[@e.l.norton]

People are too weak today for a movie like this. I was a kid when I saw this with a bunch of friends and we all loved it. Absolutely transfixed by Ermy in the Boot Camp scenes. We loved him. If the Marines had a recruiting table outside the theater we'd have signed up right there. Lol It wasn't at all heavy for us. Just a great film.

[@trackatlas237]

Shit, I still haven’t been able fully rewatch it. After like 20 years. It’s THAT insane. Only other movie I think falls in that category for me… Requiem For A Dream. But I thought I was watching a comedy that time (wrong DVD in the rental case). At least with Full Metal Jacket, I had an IDEA of what to expect going into it.

[@wingoshack]

"I don't know whether to laugh, or just be absolutely horrified". That's Kubrick for ya.

[@davidd.3555]

No…that’s the reality of the Marines in wartime. Generation Kill is also like this.

[@darthroden]

Just wait till she sees "A Clockwork Orange".

[@vikinglife6316]

@@davidd.3555 Kubrick was a movie genius. Only he could capture the true essence and play on every emotion without having a ton of action or dialogue.

[@vikinglife6316]

@@darthroden That is his only movie I could not get through.

[@mikeaninger7388]

“One for the Corps… I guess the Corps don’t get one today” 😂

[@azrogue286]

"You just don't lead them so much!" Haha, priceless.

[@bboomermike2126]

Yes, very good Hollywood, great entertainment but nothing is accurate about the door gunner scene. If you believe that is reel then you would have to believe in flying monkies because you saw them in The Wizard of Oz

[@Brubrukk]

@@bboomermike2126 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

[@MaLcH10R]

"Is this an exaggeration? or a parody?" This is probably one of the most accurate depictions of Marine boot camp ever put to film. R. Lee ermey is just an exceptionally articulate and creative Drill Instructor compared to a lot of the DI's i encountered on the island. Marine Corps 2012-2017.

[@Cablev94]

The fact that this is so realistic, to me, makes it a parody because of how funny it really is when you actually see it from the outside perspective and see how stupid war and all this really is.

[@Lbdataz1469]

No it's not. Ermey has stated in multiple interviews that Kubrick wanted him to go overboard with the physical and verbal abuse. Stop spreading this lie.

[@StacyBaldwin-qv5cj]

​@@Lbdataz1469 really? Because I know nom era Marines that said this is what it was actually like. So there is that.

[@ce6654]

I was gonna say, I've seen USMC DIs and a lot of times you can't even understand them because they're simply screaming too loud or they've lost their voice from screaming and now it's just rasp lol.

[@MCharlesPainting]

@@Cablev94 Now, you're feeding into it what you wish. Watch his interviews: he is not anti-war and has defended the film, as a man of war himself. Kubrick said once: 'it's not an anti-war film, it's not a pro-war film. It's just war'. We can assume Kubrick was no fan of mindless war or dictatorships, but he was evidently not anti-war throughout his entire life, and clearly had a great respect for men of war. Some of your comments are interesting to consider, and work in any framework, to be clear: fashion looks 'stupid' from the outside, but naked humans are either nothing but a small tribe or complete dogs. Cafés also look stupid from such an anti-human viewpoint, but to eat food with other humans is vital to human life itself and pre-dates large-scale warfare itself. Obviously, the statement 'war is stupid' has no meaning or function. Was defeating Nazism 'stupid' or are you merely not going to define this as 'war'? England openly attacked Germany with almost a singular hand, followed by the U.S. and others, and France in defence and the Soviet Union in the great battle for European control. (Germany attacked Russia first, but we know that Russia already planned to invade Germany. Hitler merely moved first, for a few reasons -- and, as many forget, Hitler was literally about three months away from taking Russia and Europe. It was not so clear-cut at the time.) If 'war' is without scale, then this must mean 'fighting' is stupid, and possibly even the notion of 'self-defence'. Taken further, 'teasing' is stupid, along with 'play-fighting'. At this level, however, what you really mean to express is that 'human existence is stupid'. In fact, it's worse than this: bears have play-fighting and without it, they die. Chimps have war (raids); thus, even war is not truly a human invention. If you also watch the interviews, you note that this isn't extremely realistic: but it's realistic in many ways. Finally: you failed to consider other views and frameworks. One view is that he was weak, that's why he snapped. It was not his innocence or the objective ruthlessness of the training, but his own weakness. Notice how the other men didn't snap, that they were evidently not weak, or as weak? Maybe some were not so innocent -- but we must assume they were all relatively innocent in this context before they entered training. What we are doing here is shifting 'weakness' and 'harmlessness' and 'cowardice' and 'kindness' for 'innocence'. This is beyond foolish. We can conclude from this that there was something about him, not the training itself. This is somewhat of a Nietzschean understanding -- there are always multiple ways to interpret suffering and life, even the exact same experience. That's why this film is so powerful, and has two primary sides/fans. Another Nietzschean notion is that of 'slave morality'. Out of weakness and envy, he wanted to take what he didn't have, he wanted to destroy the 'master morality' (of the Marines), and twist it, such that his weakness and failure and corruption and lack of nobility became the morality. The ultimate expression of this hatred and resentment was his murdering the master morality/nobility (in the form of the drill instructor) and his own suicide, just to cap it off, and let the world know that he really meant it, and that there was nothing sacred -- that Being itself was unbearable and worthless. In this regard, he identified with Cain, the murderer of all murderers, with a psychology very similar to that of many school shooters (if you read the FBI reports and their journals, etc.). That is, at least, one primary way of viewing the film's characters and the themes thereof.

[@TampaCEO]

The drill instructor was played by R. Lee Ermey who was an actual drill instructor from the Marines. He was originally hired as an "advisor" however after watching him perform, Kubrick made the decision to hire him to play "Sgt. Hartman". The entire first half of the movie was completely "unscripted". Ermey was allowed to completely improvise. This is why it was so authentic. He was literally playing himself as a drill instructor.

[@robh_tex]

*Ermey not Emery

[@TampaCEO]

@@robh_tex Thank you. Fixed

[@andrewrippel6164]

@@TampaCEO not fixed at all lol

[@campion10]

Full metal jacket is actually two movies, part one is boot camp and part two is war. I’ve seen part one dozens of times. I’ve seen part two twice.

[@briankarcher8338]

Part One was something special. The second half wasn't much different from other war movies. Nothing really stood out. A little boring at parts. May as well fast-forward to the sniper scene.

[@bonze-sk7iu]

Our dad was a DI in the Marines in the late 50's. He told us kids that's exactly how the training went. You'd see a smile ear to ear on our dad's face every time the first part of this movie was played in our house. Once a Marine, always a Marine...

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

There was only one DI? Because it seems like there are a couple of them when they show the clips of modern boot camp.

[@str.77]

Your dad seems to have been a sick freak. Indeed: once a marine, always a jerk.

[@ColonelSandersLite]

@@dialecticalmonist3405 I'm sure it has varied a bit over the years but generally there's a senior DI and like 4-6 junior DIs. The senior is generally the one who is spending the most time with them during the day. But you know, he needs to sleep and have days off and such. He's also teaching the junior DIs how to be senior DIs too and it's pretty important that they get hands on experience doing the job.

[@clash5j]

Vincent D'Onofrio said that the production of this film took so long that his co-star Matthew Modine was single when filming began, but over the course of filming, he got married, got his wife pregnant, had a son and that his son had his first birthday all before the film was released

[@canislupus6182]

Him and his wife got married in 1980 and got his son in 1985🤣

[@clash5j]

@@canislupus6182 Then I guess D'Onofrio likes to tell some tall tales😆

[@RobertJ-vo4bk]

@@clash5j Or, more likely, D'Onofrio said nothing of the sort, and you're just going through the Mandela Effect.

[@Cheepchipsable]

According to Wikipedia, casting was in 85 and film released in late June 87. Obviously development for a couple of years. Very interesting list of alternate actors considered.

[@sergeantbigmac]

That cant be true because I remember D'Onofrio also said Modine was on a walk with his wife in NYC (where Vincent happened to be working as a doorman) and mentioned in passing he got a part in a new Kubrick film and recommended Vince audition too. Are you sure what you heard is correct?

[@Itstwofourteen]

A recurring joke about bootcamp: It is the funniest place on earth where you're not allowed to laugh. Drill Instructors are like sadistic stand-up comedians, lmao. Ahhh, good times indeed, bootcamp was a blast. This film is beloved by a lot of Marines. Rest easy, Gunny Ermey, and Semper Fi.

[@nexes]

Nothing is harder in this world than keeping a straight face with a DI that stutters.

[@Itstwofourteen]

@@nexes lmfao 🤣

[@tomservo4president61]

And as someone who was in the Army, this is the reason I joined, it motivated me to be hi-speed.

[@Espjr215]

@@nexes my drill instructor had a lisp, so saying my last name for him was always a test of my bearing.

[@russellcontreras394]

The most memorable one liner for me was marching back from haircuts like 2 months in and I see a DS lock into someone a couple ranks up and a scream of "GET IN STEP, YOU CHUBBY FUCK!". Cruel without context but fucking hilarious in my minds eye

[@reduxmd9824]

My favorite part of the film is that Animal Mother says the "must hang" comment, but when Eightball is bleeding out Animal Mother is the most vocal about saving him. Refusing to leave his friend, disobeying orders, and leading the charge.

[@InsaneProf]

This was filmed entirely on location in the UK. Bassingbourne Barracks doubled for Paris Island, London Docklands for for the wrecked city & the Norfolk Broads for the Vietnamese countryside.

[@NoahSpurrier]

I had a Vietnamese girlfriend. She said Apocalypse Now was good, but Full Metal Jacket was much closer to what Vietnam looked like. She was from Hue.

[@jbest4765]

What did she think about Platoon, out of curiosity?

[@NoahSpurrier]

@@jbest4765 We never talked about that one. Not sure if she ever saw it.

[@developer101]

5th Marines were in Hue City, some of the toughest fighting during the war occurred in the citadel.

[@jackal59]

And _Full Metal Jacket_ was filmed in East London.

[@RevStickleback]

The Hue scenes were filmed at the now demolished Beckton Gasworks in London. The boot camp scenes were filmed in Cambridgeshire. When they are marching, you can see the road markings are on the wrong side of the road for the USA. The urban location makes this pretty much unique among 'nam films, as all others give the impression that the whole country was nothing but straw hut villages, when it was heavily urban, even then. Hue is a really nice city, by the way, even if much of the citadel was never repaired.

[@jakemonster001]

In the novel - at the end Joker is back home in a laundromat suffering from the effects of PTSD staring at his laundry. (1000 Yard Stare) When Animal Mother, now also a civilian, comes up to Joker and says Semper Fi.

[@420keystime]

I hit Paris Island June '70. The only difference between this depiction and experience is that we had three drill instructors. And they were harder on us than what you're seeing now.

[@frederickvila]

I went to Marine Boot Camp at MCRD San Diego in 1989. The depiction in this movie is very similar to my experience minus the cursing and "physical abuse". My Drill Instructors would say Friggin this or Friggin that instead of Fucking this or Fucking that and never saw any recruit being "physically or verbally abused" by their Drill Instructors. I heard someone comment that even during the VietNam War era, "physical abuse" was not the standard but because of the rapid expansion of the War the need for men was such that the Marines had to cut their basic training from 11 weeks to 8 and to compensate for that shorter training they allowed for some "short cuts" to instill the desired discipline and competence. This is from a comment i read by someone but I don't know if it's accurate (the Vietnam era training).

[@meanmax9663]

I served in the Marine Corps from '82-'86 and went to boot camp at Parris Island 3rd Battalion "H" Company. The depiction of boot camp in this movie was extremely accurate. It was the best decision I ever made. Semper Fidelis!

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

That first scene with sergeant Hartman is one of the greatest improvisation scene in cinematic history ! You can't write something that crazy !! Kubrick is a mad genius...

[@GRHrivnak]

After watching FMJ numerous times and finding out it's history, I'd say R. Lee Ermey probably made that introduction dozens of times as a real drill instructor.

[@nEthing4Her]

I think I read something about gunny saying that the only way that he would do that opening drill sergeant monologue was if he was allowed to ad-lib as he saw fit. I was in the military just after Vietnam ended, and even though by the time I got in there in boot camp they weren't supposed to be allowed to hit you - but they could pretty much talk about you and your mother anyway they wanted - we would still get hit by some drill sergeants. Blanket parties were a real thing, used by the entire platoon to... _encourage_ the slow Learner(s) to catch up. We were all talked down to and shaved heads and made all even so that we were nothing so that we could then be raised back up to a single unit of soldiers all at the same time. I was 17 and it sucked LOL. But I will always say there are two people a man will never forget, one is his father and the other is his drill sergeant. I'm in my 60's and I still can picture Drill Sergeant Burleson and remember his voice clearly to this day.

[@shlason]

“He sucker punched him, that’s how Houdini died!” I lol’d and choked on my eggs

[@annonymouslibertairian9120]

Fun fact. The crazy guy in the helicopter shooting indiscriminately at innocent people saying "ain't war hell!" , he was originally hired to play the drill sergeant. But R. Lee Ermy impressed Kubrick so much that he won the role.

[@talencross]

Private Pyle is an example of a program nicknamed "Macnamara's Morons". It was a program to increase the number of soldiers by heavily lowering the standards like IQ. They are also called, "Macnamara's 100,000." The results ended up that those soldiers had a way higher mortality rate than the standard soldiers. Joker was being sarcastic about being the first with a confirmed kill. It is how he deals with uncomfortable situations. One last interesting thing. If you watch the scene where Pyle is shooting and gets complimented when he reloads look at the magazine. IT still has rounds in it. That was how he got the live rounds back to the barracks.

[@lewistasso8866]

A vet once told me that he knew a "Macnamara Moron" in Vietnam. He was pulling guard duty one night. A fellow soldier was coming up and was shot and killed. The "moron" guard shot first then yelled, "Who goes there??" If that wasn't bad enough, the guy (that should never have been in the military), "disappeared." He was murdered by someone in the unit.

[@WilliamPickett75]

@@lewistasso8866 Murdered, don't you mean fragged. Probably a frag party by everyone

[@lennyvalentin6485]

@@WilliamPickett75 No, that's specifically when you got rid of someone in your own unit whom you disliked (such as a gung-ho officer liable to get you killed with their antics) by rolling a grenade up to them unexpectedly, maybe as they were resting/sleeping - hence the word fragging, derived from "fragmentation grenade". Just killing someone on the quiet side wouldn't be a fragging.

[@TheKyfe]

McNamara's Morons didn't just have a higher mortality rate among themselves, they actively lowered the combat effectiveness of whatever unit they were in and increased the mortality rate overall. It was a huge disaster.

[@Cheepchipsable]

@@WilliamPickett75 Fragging is meant to be an injury that looks incidental rather than deliberate, easier to do with a 'nade. Not meant to be lethal, just injure the person enough to get them shipped out. Murdering someone straight up would be different.

[@guscarlson7021]

"Hamburger Hill" True Vietnam War story. You should probably avoid it unless you have a trauma counselor on stand by.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

changed the way wars are fought.... read eyewitness stories, it was utter madness....

[@fonkyman]

dude thats my favorite vietnam movie.. and its the only one based on a true story... criminally underrated... if you search hard you can find some news footage from the real hill that looks almost exactly like some scenes in the movie...

[@guscarlson7021]

@@fonkyman My older brother was in the Marines. He served "in country" for four years. The movie he said reminded him of Vietnam the most was "The Boys in Company C". Have you seen it?

[@fonkyman]

@@guscarlson7021 i heard that before think its because of the way its acted. But for me it had too low production quality to fully enjoy Hamburger hill is already made for litle money compared to platoon or apocalypse now. But im also not a vet so what do i know

[@rafaeloda]

It dont mean nothin

[@johnpaul4597]

R. Lee Ermy Did an interview once where he talked about being a drill instructor during vietnam. He mentioned that the only reason he was so tough was because he did not want to see the guys come back in a bodybag. The training time was shortened so he had less time to get people in shape.

[@brentprosser7293]

I have never laughed so hard at a movie review in my life. You went in so innocent and hopeful and then to watch your soul get crushed was absolutely hilarious.

[@holddowna]

😂😂🙈🙈😅

[@chuckhilleshiem6596]

I am a combat vet ( Vietnam ) I was there in 65/66 this movie was representing the 1968 tet offensive . The boot camp was accurate for that time but nothing like that now. Thank you for this and God bless you.

[@natesmith5493]

Ty for ur service ❤

[@rustincohle2135]

15:42 _"What's a Section 8? Somebody's getting kicked out or that he's going crazy?"_ Both.😄 It means to get discharged on psychiatric grounds.

[@darthroden]

Its the thing that Klinger kept trying to get wearing a dress on MASH.

[@mattstanford9673]

Real talk, when Drill Instructors/Sergeants get into roasting mode, it's **brutal** trying not to laugh.

[@daveh9521]

Arguably one of the best war movies ever made. R. Lee Ermey's Sgt Hartman alone is worth the price of admission; and this film established Vincent D'onofrio as a truly great actor...

[@marksauck3399]

I liked the movie “Hamburger Hill” better. The movie “Platoon” was excellent in a lot of ways also. One of the most heart breaking movies about Vietnam though was “We Were Soldiers” That was about real people.

[@franklubbock8400]

I knew a marine vet from that era, and he told me the boot camp depiction was the most accurate thing he has ever seen in a movie. It really seemed to effect him.

[@BranDZ7]

A lot of World War two vets said the opening scene to saving private ryan was pretty accurate as well

[@acheronnchase6220]

We were still getting shoved and choked out (😮) in OSUT : Benning 2003 I didn’t clear my weapon and police all of my brass properly and my drill sergeant tackled me and put me to sleep until everything was safe 😂 I knew he did it mostly for show or force for the rest of the platoon and I was cool with him the whole time but it kinda hurt my feelings for a few days We weren’t beaten but we always had very ‘interesting ‘ corrective discipline line dismantling our bunks and our wall Lockers and assembling our entire barracks outside for two days and nights because they found a can of dip in the trash and nobody would fess up

[@user-me4hg6ee4x]

not surprising it's played by a real drill instructor, he was just hired as a consultant but then got the part in the film

[@Kingfish888]

As a combat veteran. I find it more humorous to see the younger generations in total shock seeing basic training for the first time. The reactors often say things like " Oh, that's so mean, etc." Well, think about this, in combat the enemy will not give a damn.. about your feelings. If you can't handle the stress of basic training, what chance do you think you will have in combat.

[@cjextreme]

Oorah.

[@nathan8418]

Well these guys lost this war, the war before, and a 20 year war later on. Maybe this isn't the best way.

[@Kingfish888]

I agree, war is not the best way. After my experience as a soldier, I made an oath to myself to live in peace...but in the context of the time, this is how things were. Many of these recruits were drafted. Once drafted, you had to make life altering choices, go in the military, go to prison or leave the U.S. and never return. I understand what you are saying, however the collective consciousness of society is just not there yet.

[@NP-ux9xg]

@@nathan8418 you aren't very good at history.

[@nathan8418]

@@NP-ux9xg Don't need to be. Got a huge pecker.

[@sammas7440]

I went to USMCRD San Diego in 1983. My Sr DI is a spittin image of Ermy (I wondered if he was trained by Ermy). The Marines squared-away my undisciplined arse and I don't regret the time I served. I was fortunate not to have been in combat, altho I constantly trained for it (Desert Warfare Training, Mountain Warfare Training, Team Spirit in SKorea, etc). I saw this movie not too long after I discharged from the Marines. I remember the chills and sweats it gave me as I watched it. The first half, during boot camp, was so realistic. I can't say about the second half of the movie, as I am thankful that I was too young for Vietnam. Today, we are on the verge of another WW and this time around, when it happens, the survivors will envy the dead; "There will be no more boom boom for you, Baby San".

[@LogicalNiko]

Relentless, unwavering, and unstoppable is what the marines want people to be. In the 1970s the Marine training was based on the concept of: tear them down to nothing and rebuild them from the ground up. This means destroying ego, feeling, and independence of will in order to turn all basic activities into an unconscious following of procedure and order. At first the DI is your common enemy, and eventually then when everyone acts as a unit that flips to the DI being your strongest advocate. In the time between then and now quite a few studies caused this old system to be revamped. There is still a lot of exercises to encourage acting as a unit (punishing the unit for mistakes of individuals). But the regulations on physical and verbal abuse have changed. They can still be loud, commanding, and demanding; you just are forbidden from taking that to an individual level of personal insult. The strategy also completely changed to focus less on tearing people's past learned behaviors down but instead just re-enforcing correct behavior.

[@rustincohle2135]

42:14 Joker was not outta ammo at the end, his gun jammed. The automatic rifle he was using is the M16 which were prone to jamming, especially when they were first introduced during the Vietnam era. Every now and then in the film when the Marines are reloading, you see them tap a magazine (of fresh bullets) on their helmet before loading it into the weapon. What that does is, it forces the ammunition within the mag to slide to the fully aft (back) position. If the rounds are too forward in the magazine, they will jam up in the rifle while firing.

[@jeffreysmith236]

The AR-15 is an extremely reliable weapon that was designed to use Remington ammunition. The Army Bureau of Ordinance had fought tirelessly in the late 1940s to prevent NATO from switching to a smaller caliber, and now 12 years later their own government was forcing them to do it, so in adopting the M-16 they sabotaged it by using gunpowder from a different supplier, a powder unsuitable for the M-16 as it burned slower so that when the bullet passed the gas port that applied pressure to release the bolt, combustion was still occurring, so the gas tube would get fouled and fail to fully retract the bolt. And the Bureau just shrugged their shoulders and claimed they always said it was an unsuitable weapon.

[@Patrick-xv6qv]

The M16 was only prone to jamming becuase it was not cleaned properly. The M16 got a bad reputation during Veitnam when in truth it was a much better rifle them the M14 it replaced The reason if got the bad reputation was because of the jamming because it was not cleaned properly and the US troops didn't know how to clean the properly The rifles were shipped to the troops to quickly amd they didn't include the proper cleaning gear or the rifle manual to show how the M16 should be broken down and cleaned. After getting the initial reports on how the rifle functioned and the issues, the War Dept. made it a priority to get the correct cleaning gear and manuals to the US Troops. Once the troops learned how to properly break them down and clean them, they had great praises for the rifle amd how it functioned in combat. Plus even the best made rifles are going to jam on occasion.

[@jeffreysmith236]

@@Patrick-xv6qv you cannot clean a fouled gas tube. And cleaning an AR-15 using Remington powder was much easier than the ball ammunition the Army issued to soldiers in Vietnam.

[@terryd757]

@@jeffreysmith236 Let's not forget the decision not to chrome the chambers to save a few $ resulting in corrosion and failure to extract. Lots of bad decisions added up to a major problem.

[@BeHempy]

OK, nerd.

[@larrywhite1558]

Retired Marine here!!!! This is absolutely accurate !!!! R LEE ERMY was a national treasure!!!!

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

Is there only one DI though? I always thought that was kind of odd.

[@str.77]

He was a national shit as is the entire cult.

[@cristianespinal9917]

"Am I supposed to laugh right now? I don't think so." Exactly. They nailed Marine Corps bootcamp.

[@nunyabidness674]

and NOW you can start to know the Gunny. :) R. Lee was one tough son of a bitch, but was just about one of the most caring humans you could ever encounter. He had a straight forward no-nonsense approach to life, and by god, if you were facing adversity he could find the words to inspire you to accomplishments you'd never previously dreamed possible. Likewise, if he found you dishonorable, shady, or just someone who's out for themselves alone at any cost, he could verbally de-pants you and paddle your ass in front of your co-workers; friends; AND extended family... in 4k... RIP R.Lee Ermy, Miss ya gunny.

[@saaamember97]

When I was in Air Force Basic Training, back in the late 70's, we had a recruit who couldn't take any more either. He wanted out so bad, that he kept f_ing up, hoping that they would discharge him. Instead, he kept putting him back to Day 1 of training, and made him start all over again. As such, he did not graduate with our Flight. I heard from another recruit that he finally threw himself down a flight of stairs and broke a leg. They finally discharged hm.

[@gregorygant4242]

Yep that's a good case scenario but I've heard about other guys who couldn't take it and ended themselves . That's the brutal nature of the military but a man's life in general , a man's life is generally 1000 times more difficult , real , brutal than a modern woman's life is. Modern women live life on easy mode but most don't understand that and definitely don't care about a man's struggles whatsoever . Like it , believe it or not !

[@987654321wormy]

Similar thing in my army basic training unit in 79. Wanted out and kept screwing up to get out. His screwing around got us punished almost daily. He was forced to keep training and they drug their feet on the paperwork, released him the day before we graduated, by that time he wanted to stay. They gave him his final pay and a bus ticket to his town, 1,800 miles away.

[@mainmac]

@@gregorygant4242 If you believe that's a normal man's life, you've been abused your whole life, son.

[@gregorygant4242]

@@mainmac The military life well not so much as portrayed here but a man's life yes. A man's life is generally much more brutal and difficult than a modern woman's life. Not complaining about it but that's just how it is. And modern women don't care about all that they just want a man's money resources they don't care about his morals, decency , honesty , loyalty nothing about that. Those are the cold hard facts about women today.

[@EatDatBitchAwp]

@@gregorygant4242a normal man’s live isn’t being trained in bootcamp preparing you for war and seeing your buddy’s die infront of you, what type of incel shit are you on?

[@reservoirdude92]

The cinematography in this (like all Kubrick films, really) is so immaculate. The zooms, tracking shots, lighting, shot compositions.. this is one of the best shot Kurbrick films, without a doubt. Also, Joker's "war face" finally emerges as he sh*oots the sniper...

[@Smokie_666]

Also, when he shoots the sniper, as he turns the yin-yang symbol on his chest falls into the shadows.

[@reservoirdude92]

​@@Smokie_666wait what?? Oh damn, never noticed that detail before!

[@andrelockridge9109]

Kubrick's "2001 A Space Oddyssey" and "The Shining" are in my Top Ten favorite movies!!

[@JeffOfTheMountains]

This is called the Thousand Yard Stare. It's usually found with people who have seen a lot of trauma over the course of a few years, like during a war. Their eyes are hollow and distant... you can see them, but the person isn't really there.

[@stephengamber7000]

first I've heard this!

[@craigsheffield6546]

My Dad was an Air Force Staff Sergeant during the entire Vietnam War. I only talked back at him one time. I'm 55 now, and I can still feel it. Post Millenials have no clue. 2:30 Houdini did not die from a sucker punch. That is what the media said. He died simply from Appendicitis. The punch had nothing to do with it. 7:05 It was like that back in the '60s in Boot Camp. My Dad gave me some hilarious stories about what happened to him, and other guys.

[@chrisbera7952]

A lot of my male patients are Vietnam vets. It left a scar on a lot of them. No war is easy. Their reception coming home really added insult to injury.

[@SathReacts]

20:11 "UNGHHHH, into 'these boots were made for walking', HOW!?" was fucking great. lol

[@holddowna]

😰

[@SathReacts]

I've seen lots of shock over that last boot camp scene (and it's transition into Vietnam) but no one acknowledges the upbeat music in contrast to what the hell just happened on the screen. Time jumps be like that.

[@DanMar5858]

I guess I’ve just been de-sensitized, I’ve been watching this movie since a year after it was released so I think I first saw it in maybe 1987, I was maybe 14, so I know I’m dating myself a bit here. But I find the whole movie quite humorous. But, I used to watch it with my dad who actually was in Vietnam, in the Marines in 65-67, so it was something we used to bond over I guess. 😊

[@michaelverhaegen3713]

@@holddownahey

[@Anon54387]

@@holddowna That guy who went off the deep end ending the life of his D.I. and then himself on the toilet was an example of what they called McNamara's morons. McNamara, not exactly an Einstein himself, had this warped idea that those on the low end of the IQ scale would follow orders better. It turned out to be just the opposite, that those were the types to frag their officers while actually in Viet Nam. McNamara was one of the executives at Ford Motor Company and spent a bunch of money for a study to determine whether or not seatbelts helped. It doesn't take a study to determine that it is better to stay put in the seat rather than flying through the windshield or hitting the dash or steering wheel. McNamara should never have been in a decision making job. EVER!

[@Rob-eo5ql]

At the height of the Vietnam war, the US was running out of qualified recruits so the Pentagon lower the standards for draftees, namely lowering the IQ of the draftees. Over 100,000 were drafted with IQs lower than 80. Private Pyle representatives one of those recruits.

[@TransparencyandMerit]

They were called McNamara’s morons

[@josiahweber7285]

McNamara's Morons.

[@TheSpacemannspiff]

Forest Gump and Bubba Gump were also examples of that program.

[@billymuellerTikTok]

@@TheSpacemannspiff Benjamin "Bubba" Buford Blue

[@evilpenguinmas]

They were often called "McNamera's morons."

[@LogicalNiko]

Kubrick was a master in filmmaking as an artform. He always crafted stories with many layers and meanings. Thanks for this reaction, you seeing made me recall initial reactions I had to this movie decades ago. This movie is supposed to make you uncomfortable, think, while also letting you appreciate its artistic creation. It symbolizes, depicts, mocks, and protests war and especially our actions in Vietnam at the same time. The dichotomy and jarring transitions between scenes, music, and people is supposed to represent the things that soldiers had to deal with going between order and chaos, life and death, being heroes and being spit on, fighting for freedom and fighting for nothing but the war itself. Kubrick would put his actors into real emotional situations (sometimes almost bordering on being abusive) to capture true emotions. He commonly withheld information from people's scripts so their first reaction would be authentic, and he did tend to just roll film a lot just letting people explore how they thought characters would react and what they would say. He was meticulous with his scene setup. He often would supervise his own set dressing and props, obsessing over angles of things and the symbology they had. He did a lot of his own cinematography and his own editing. Many times he would even do his own musical scores. Plus on top of that he was a very skilled engineer and invented a lot of his own lenses and equipment that he needed to get his shots. Studios generally hated him however. He always ran multiple times longer than he should and he was always over budget. He would often just keep putting the studios in a position where they were too committed to stop the picture so they had no choice but to give him more time/money/etc. He would usually find a way to work in a deal for final approval of the finished film, many times by just delivering it hours after the last possible deadline for the printers and distribution folks so no one got to see the movie before copies were being made in mass. And he would often build false narratives with scripts, producers, and sponsors and then in the final edit change the entire subtext (e.g. He turned war hero films into an anti-war film, he turned serious films into deadpan comedies, he turned a pro-technology space film into a cautionary techno horror).

[@jasonb1316]

Her being so sure Pvt. Pyle was gonna hit his glow up was hilarious. I haven't made it to see her reaction to the bathroom yet, but jfc I had to pause to laugh & check comments

[@YochevedDesigns]

I had the exact same reaction to the movie. My dad was in Viet Nam, and he won't talk about it. I tried to ask him once, and he got a look in his eyes that I can't describe. I just knew to never ask again. My dad is such a sweet and gentle guy, I can't even imagine what it was like for him.

[@jonnybeyer6290]

I had a friend who went and fought in desert storm. In combat a gernade hit a guy near him and blew him to bits. My friend doesn’t talk about his time in the army. All I know is my friend went to war and someone else came back that looked like him with ptsd

[@darthroden]

Bless your father and thank him for his service. Yeah, many combat veterans don't like to go into details about what happened to them, especially if they saw serious combat. My grandfather had a friend who was a POW in World War II and he had some stories but nothing really bad. The Germans actually treated the prisoners like human beings, though they wouldn't hesitate to shoot and kill anyone trying to escape and he saw it happen a few times.

[@sd9150]

This was one of my dad’s fave’s! He was in the military in the 60’s and said his drill instructor was EXACTLY like this

[@5571Randman]

The actor playing the drill instructor was a real DI and was brought on to show the actor how drill instructors did their job, after watching him, the director gave him the acting role.

[@therealajnelson]

This past Monday was my 30 years graduating from Marine Corps bootcamp. I can attest that there's not much changed. I'd do it all over again. It's tough but you gotta remember we have the legacy of being the world's most feared fighting force. It's a mindset. You're not just building your physical body but your mental acuities as well. This is why we are the best. Semper Fi Edit to those who think they don't hit recruits, I still have a scar above my right eye from getting smacked with my rifle for messing up drill

[@JVTrickypants]

Vincent D'Onofrio absolutely crushed his role as Pyle. He has said he was watching old horror movies and leaned into those characters. Especially noticeable with the bathroom scene and his crazy breathing. He crushed it.

[@GTgrad]

Agreed I love his quirky acting style. "The Cell" was brilliant also.

[@nunyabidness674]

My mother is a annoyingly huge fan of any sort of murder drama... I still catch myself marveling at Gomer Pyle doing some sort of high drama interrogation as a New York cop.

[@JVTrickypants]

@@nunyabidness674 I had the reverse problem within having seen Anthony Hopkins as a butler in Remains of the Day before seeing him as Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs. Was just like, "Yeah, this is a great acting job, but I still see him reading a book in his room" lol.

[@11DNA11]

The bathroom face he makes reminds me of Anthony Perkins in Psycho

[@dhy5342]

@@11DNA11 or Jack Nicholson in "The Shining"

[@hiramburgess9925]

I was a Marine, I went through Boot Camp at Parris Island. This is the most accurate portrayal of my experience there that I've ever seen in a movie. Right up to just before the very final scene of the boot camp portion. Live amminition for the recruits there is incredibly tightly controlled. That scene is over the top far-fetched, but it does make FMJ what it is.

[@katskillz]

Another commenter here mentioned the detail that Pyl still had rounds in a magazine when reloading another, which is how he got them back to the barracks. I wonder if someone was determined enough they could have gotten away with that, or in reality there would still be strict checks on everything coming in?

[@hiramburgess9925]

@@katskillz Recruits don't even have possession of magazines outside the rifle range. At any time. Rounds are counted out in wooden "range blocks". It's a great movie, the most accurate movie representation of Parris Island I've ever seen. But that scene is a massive fantasy scene. Live rounds were parceled out very precisely, the KD Course (known distance) requires only a very specific number of rounds to fire the cycle, and that's what is provided. Range coaches are everywhere, watching everything. That said, FMJ is still a truly excellent movie.

[@katskillz]

@@hiramburgess9925 thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. The more I think about it, this is a trademark of Kubrick where he creates a hyper detailed, realistic environment in the film that's so convincing; but with the story mechanics he finds somewhere to tweak reality to make room for a "glitch" to the whole thing. I remember a quote of his about his approach to filming: "Real is good, interesting is better". So in FMJ he had to fudge that realistic detail you explained, so he could make room for the drama of something going wrong in a tightly controlled situation. This is just like with Clockwork Orange with their social engineering project, Dr Strangelove with the supposed fail-safe mutually assured destruction nuclear initiative, and 2001 with the "perfect" AI computer -- there's that consistent theme of humans having the amazing ability to invent and come up with fool proof technologies or policies without considering the moral implications. Then Kubrick focuses on the erratic glitch in the perfect system, which backfires in a big way.

[@hiramburgess9925]

@@katskillz there’s also a discrepancy with R. Lee Ermey’s uniform that can only be deliberate. It’s small but any Marine who has ever pinned out a set of service greens sees it.

[@illuminocalypse5210]

​@@hiramburgess9925What is it? Can you give me a hint?

[@joelesher7106]

This is a VERY REAL depiction of Recruit Training in the 60s.....corporal punishment and all! Brutal!!! As far as the set design.....the amazing part is this movie was made in 1986....it is all practical set design, no CGI or miniatures.

[@eljefe2243]

I was 15 years old when I was watching this show for the first time. I was so scared when he shot himself. I could not stay inside the theater. I walked out and could not stay in there. It effected me bad and scared the hell out of me. I did feel a huge part of my innocence vaporize in a flash when he lifted that gun to his mouth and pulled the trigger. It was a sadness and fear that I had never felt before.

[@OcotilloTom]

That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corps and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart

[@DanMar5858]

Sir, Semper Fi!! Thank You for your service Sir!

[@coyoteone6197]

Semper Fi, Gunny.

[@MarcusHardyDJDirtyOne]

🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@jlcomte]

Thank you for your service

[@MzQTMcHotness]

Lee was a family friend. He was as honest in life as he was in film. He was a beautiful man. I was a drill sergeant in the army from 2013 to 2020. I can confirm that much of the basic training portrayed in this film is fairly accurate. The biggest deviation is the physical contact with the recruits. We don’t hit the recruits, and we don’t actively make efforts to single out recruits with humiliating or degrading personal attacks. But the yelling, the insults, the physical fitness, the regimentation, the constant and oppressive presence of the drill sergeants, it’s all pretty accurate. There is a very scientific and planned method that is used to train civilians to be soldiers. It’s a process. It isn’t always pretty. But it works.

[@DanMar5858]

To add to that, this film portrayed Marine Boot Camp in the Mid-60’s preparing recruits to go fight in Vietnam. My Father was in the Corps at that time. He loved this movie and told me that back then, the DI’s in fact DID hit recruits, and physical contact was normal as well as singling out humiliating and degrading those who did not perform. One story he told me that he NEVER forgot, was about when he’s was performing below standard on the rifle range with his M14. The DI came up to him with a pair of pliers, squeezed his “trigger” finger with them & told him “You WILL shoot more accurately or I will keep squeezing you with these” he said he immediately shot much better after that! 😂😂

[@IggyStardust1967]

@@DanMar5858 I had a very close friend who also served in Vietnam, and he told me pretty much the same thing (without the personal anecdote about the finger grabbed with pliers) about Boot Camp. No matter how many times I asked, he kept much of what happened to him "over there" out of my ears. I was born in the late 1960s, and saw the news broadcasts as a child until the war ended. I know that watching such things on television messed up a lot of children of that era (from stories my peers have told me, as well as my own personal experiences), so it's not really a stretch to imagine the amounts of PTSD that soldiers (of any/all branches) experienced from their time over there in real life, under real combat situations.

[@airgunfun4248]

@@DanMar5858 Ya no doubt that broad is full of it

[@jeffburnham6611]

I went through Marine Basic Training in the 1980's. I can confirm that the Drill Instructors DO single out recruits for punishment. That's the difference between the two branches. You guys even dropped Shark Attack week to be more "touchy-feely".

[@Zseventyone]

Appreciate your relationship and appreciation for Ermey, but don’t you think this level of physical contact could have been accurate for ‘Nam Era Marine boot camp?

[@PhuVet]

I went through Basic Training in 1991, it was not very far from what it was like. We had a trainee who "fell down the stairs" because he broke during training. He was in a full body cast when i saw him last and when we picked him up he had shoe prints all over him. His style of production meant he would record sound on set, as he went along. Not on a sound studio.

[@crzegy3097]

private pyle did an amazing job preparing for this role.put on 40lbs etc,the sergeant was in no way an actor he was a freshly retired drill sergeant he was picked over several pro actors and ad libbed his role.some directors have said he was perhaps the most natural talent for his role ever.iconic movie but people are way to sensitive for anything near this now

[@penfold7455]

Pvt. Joker - Matthew Modine (Dr. Brenner from "Stranger Things") Pvt. Pyle - Vincent D'Onofrio (Bobby Green from " Law & Order") Sgt. Hartman - R. Lee Ermey ( lead toy soldier from "Toy Story") Lt. Lockhart, Joker's editor - John Terry (Christian Shepherd from " Lost") Animal Mother - Adam Baldwin (Jayne Cobb from "Firefly")

[@jamespfp]

^^ IMO, the surprisingly good performance in this film is Adam Baldwin, not to take anything from any others you've listed above, because they're all excellent. The thing is entirely in the Range though. I doubt I would have been as sympathetic towards the character of Jayne in Firefly if not for this film, first.

[@JPDillon]

@@jamespfp Of course, Adam will always be "My Bodyguard" for me though. He was amazing in that role.

[@jeffburnham6611]

R. Lee Ermey was also the Drill Instructor in the film, "The Boys of Company C". Another Vietnam movie.

[@BusyBadger]

​@@jeffburnham6611He was also a chopper pilot in "Apocalypse Now" but never credited.

[@WilliamPickett75]

R Lee Ermey was also in "The Siege of Firebase Gloria," "Toy Soldiers," "On Deadly Ground," and "Mississippi Burning"

[@clarkness77]

Her face when the drill instructor started talking 😅

[@N.California]

R. Lee Ermey, the Drill Instructor "Gunnery Sgt Hartman" was a DI in the Marine Corps in real life. He started in this movie as a military technical advisor but intentionally showed Stanley Kubrick his abilities as a former Marine and he took the part and made it his own. Much of the dialogue he used in the movie was adlibbed on the spot from his experiences as a 20 year Marine. There is a shot docu-clip about the making of "Full Metal Jacket" ~20 minutes

[@williamaschbrenner5088]

R Lee Ermey was a vietnam vet who also did DI duty, and was originally a military advisor for the film. He wanted the role as DI so he showed up in his uniform and was doing his thing showing the actor who was supposed to be the DI how to do it. Stanley Kubrick was so impressed with Ermey, he made HIM the DI just like Ermey knew he would. He even allowed him to improvise all his lines, just him doing his thing. He's also great in The boys in company C, and take a look at Apocalypse now, it's a pretty dark vietnam film that Ermey has a small role in, but stars Martin Sheen and Marlon Brando.

[@LashLeRoux.1]

Lee Ermey, who played Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, actually served in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. He served twelve years in the Corps, retiring as a Staff Sergeant. He wasn’t originally cast in the role of Sgt. Hartman. Tim Colceri, who played the door gunner who was shooting at civilians from the helicopter, was originally cast in the role of Sgt. Hartman while Lee Ermey was hired as technical advisor. However Director Stanley Kubrick soon realized that he had to recast the part. While Tim Colceri tried to PLAY Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, Lee Ermey WAS Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. So Kubrick cast Ermey as Hartman and Colceri as the door gunner. As far as parts of the movie coming across as satire, that was Stanley Kubrick’s directorial style. Kubrick also gave us “The Shining.” Enough said. The door gunner scene alludes to two things: the inhumanity of war and the effect it has on some people, and the fact that in Vietnam one often didn’t know who one’s friends were so there was a tendency by some to shoot first and ask questions later. I grew up during the Vietnam War and have had several friends who were Vietnam vets. To a man they told me that the three worst things about that war were the frequent inability to tell friend from foe, the lack of clear objectives for fighting the war and finally the unpopularity of the war at home. All of those things made life really hard on those who survived that war. Finally, Amy alludes to the strange places her mind goes while watching movies. Personally I love the places her mind goes. I’ve watched this movie several times yet Amy has pointed out things that I’ve never noticed before about this movie, such as how one scene foreshadows another. Keep up the great work!

[@LashLeRoux.1]

In the scene where the bodies are shown covered with lime in the mass grave, bodies were often covered with lime to hasten decomposition, mainly for health reasons.

[@BDogg2023]

Dead bodies stink to high hell from about day 3-7. Lime does speed things up.

[@swordsmanfabian18]

@@BDogg2023 In the hot humid conditions of Vietnam, they're gonna start getting ripe in just a few hours. The Lime doesn't speed up decomp, it actually slows it down by controlling bacteria growth and thus also helps control odor.

[@Saul-wo4qf]

This is the closest depiction of Parris Island I've seen. Semper Fi 🇺🇲

[@TJ-pk9fd]

As said by other the DI was a real former marine DI. He was hired as a technical consultant but the actors just didn't do it right, so they decided to just give the part to him instead. Awesome choice!

[@bjchit]

Some of the hardest things recruits have to do in boot camp is struggle not to laugh at the drill instructor tearing down the others recruits with their insults.

[@disposablehero4911]

And it doesn't help if you have a Joker in your platoon/squad either.

[@Krucifus]

When I was in Navy bootcamp, we had uniform inspections and stood at attention on both sides of a large room while the DI inspected us, and right before I was up, I noticed the dude across from me had made his tie (back when the working blues were black with a necktie) so that it barely came halfway down his chest, probably due to rushing/being nervous, and it looked hilarious. I couldn't keep it in very long and got reamed for cracking up. The rest of that day was not enjoyable.

[@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime]

I was in the Army, 1986. Believe me, none of us were laughing at the time.

[@LupusLifestyle]

"Am I supposed to be laughing right? I don't think so." Proceeds to laugh. Lol 😂

[@Suremane]

Yeah if u dont laugh u might be a psychopath

[@macmcgee5116]

In my opinion that is also part of the training. The troops better not laugh... Or they are next

[@jamespfp]

A: Yes, the Audience is allowed to Laugh. Remember, Kubrick has a real talent for dark humor and he also understood that Tragedy is best served with a healthy dollop of Comedy on the side or the Pain of the Art would be too great to bear, just like Life. See also Catharsis.

[@TealJosh]

@@macmcgee5116 it kind of is, military bearing. The recommendation I give to recruits is pinch something as hard as you can to prevent grinning. I'm the type that develops a smile during stress so I had a full blown bruise on my right thigh from standing at rest.

[@BrolandMeeces]

Drill instructors are some of the funniest human beings on the planet. Looking back at boot camp I laugh my ass off now. I wasn't laughing at the time that's for sure.

[@Brianscoronet]

R Lee Ermey was a legend, RIP mr Ermey.

[@cjparks9969]

The Drill Sergeant played by R Lee Ermy was a real drill sergeant and a retired Veteran. Basic training was to make you responsible and to become men. During Vietnam most servicemen went to Vietnam and it was necessary to train them this way to increase their chances of coming back home from Vietnam. Most military soldiers today don’t see combat today; especially not like Vietnam.

[@Progger11]

This is actually not Kubrick's first anti-war film. His first was several decades earlier in 1957's "Paths of Glory" starring Kirk Douglas. One of the very first Hollywood films to speak to the actual dehumanizing realities of war. I highly recommend that one as well. It's lesser known than this one, but it's just as brilliant.

[@stevenclackmusic9805]

I am a marine corps combat vet. This is 100% what boot camp is. Although I trained at San Diego. It is the funniest place on earth where you’re not allowed to laugh 😂

[@Fooney1]

Lol boot camp hasn't been anything like that in a long time and now its worse that ever. New marines are allowed to be soft to meet quotas.

[@douglasspringer1665]

Was there May 1970. Semper Fi!

[@developer101]

Semper Fi from a Parris Island Marine...

[@jwaller1327]

@@Fooney1 Have you been through boot camp recently? Not trying to be an asshole, but when I went in the USMC in 1994, my recruiter told me that DIs weren't allowed to swear or touch the recruits, to my dismay. Fortunately, my DIs didn't get that memo. After the senior DI's speech and introduction of the other DIs, the senior went into the duty hut, we were all put online. Two of the DIs singled out the biggest, toughest looking recruit, folded him up, threw him between the top and bottom bunks at the end of the rack, splitting his head open. One DI went and reported this to the senior and the other started laying it in to the recruit for spilling 'grape juice' on the deck. It was three months of mental torture with a lot of physical toughening up. Just as it should have been (I'm not bitching about the harshness, it's war the recruits are being prepared for). But whenever I got to the fleet, all the salty guys were talking about how us new Marines had stress cards and all that bull shit. I wonder if the rumors about boot camp going soft now are just as wrong as they were when I went through it.

[@Styxswimmer]

When did you go through boot camp? I was in from 05-09. Deployed twice but only once to combat.

[@jasonyoung3690]

This was the best film depiction of boot camp ever made of that era. Boot camp was still like this in 1978 when I went through, but instead of only 8 weeks, it was 11 weeks of hell. The DIs actually made jokes about them being watched in San Diego through telescopes on the hillsides, but as soon as they got us to the confines of rifle range at Edson Range and Infantry Training School at Camp Pendleton, no more civilian eyes would be on us. That was kind of scary to most of us. Unlike San Diego MCRD, Parris Island MCRD didn't have this aspect as it was all in one locale in the swamps of South Carolina, far from snooping civilian eyes. Yes, the DIs were actually like this in many respects. Many of them have said that their tirades were straight up stand-up comedy routines that they practiced all of the time, and that the sole purpose of this was to get us to laugh so that they could dish out more punishment.

[@fuzzballzz36]

What you have to understand is this: these were not normal conditions. This was a time when the Vietnam War was going desperately wrong. Marine recruits or draftees were only trained for 8 weeks instead of the normal 12 and shipped straight overseas, and they took those who were really not fit to serve, like Pyle. What the helicopter gunner was doing was not unknown because, according to war correspondent Michael Herr, by 1968-'69 all the brass were interested in were high body counts and it didn't matter if the bodies were VC or civilians--they just wanted it to look like there was hope for victory.

[@keithr-xj7zx]

The reason the drill instructor is so tough on them is he is preparing them for battle, not a job at Wal-Mart.

[@user-fo5gc8rf9k]

Ok relax

[@rafaeloda]

Tbh wal mart is not that far off

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

​@@user-fo5gc8rf9krelax about what? He just spoke true

[@lonnierh0dgejr41]

drill instructors are there to prepare the men for the rigors of war. this requires extreme focus and an ability to control ones emotions in the heat of combat. if they can't handle getting yelled at, they are not coming back alive. if they are unable to concentrate and/or freeze in a highly dangerous situation, they will make mistakes that can and will cost them and others their lives. THAT is what a drill instructors job is.

[@AmericanIdolz2011]

To put it as bluntly as I can: When you enlist in the Marines, particularly in wartime (provided you make it through bootcamp), there's fairly decent chance you'll see at least one of your fellow men get blown to pieces on the battlefield. When you're preparing for that, some rough words at bootcamp are the least of your worries. And DIs know that better than anyone. They know that you making it back alive is more important than keeping your feelings intact.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

Vincent D'Onofrio going from normal dude to insane is amazing acting ! It's like his model for all his future unhinged character in the future like Kingpin in Daredevil or the killer in the Cell !

[@greyhoodie1012]

My dad who was a marine and every marine i’ve met has said this is the most accurate bootcamp movie ever made for the Marines during the Vietnam war

[@greyhoodie1012]

besides the end w him killing the DI. That’s never happened to my knowledge

[@astralclub5964]

I was in the US Air Force as an officer. Your sensitive reactions are so cute!

[@StarShipGray]

My dad got his PhD in American Literature with a specialization in literature about the Vietnam War. He once told me when I was a kid that there are no happy stories about the Vietnam War, and thirty years later I still haven’t found one.

[@jeffreysmith236]

True, the best two I have read were "A Bright Shining Lie", and the book by Cincinnatus.

[@darkerthanblack4430]

There was a guy who suffered stab wounds, a few gun shots, and a broken jaw and managed to save many during Nam if I ain't wrong. I may be very wrong, but I believe his name was Ray Benavidez

[@MsUltrafox]

The end song "Paint it Black" by The Rolling Stones was also the theme song for the series called "Tour of Duty" and that series was set in the Vietnam War.

[@Tam0de]

"I can't wait for this guy (Pyle) to be molded," Hate to disappoint you but, uhm, yeah 😂

[@hugueslevistre5519]

I served the French army in the 90...just the same. Soft training makes a hard War, hard training makes a soft war! There job is to make the hard, it saved me in life ! The world is a hard place to live.

[@tommywalker3746]

The first half of the movie is exactly what bootcamp is like. The only difference in 1996 when I went was the color of the uniform, we had woodland camo.

[@markcarpenter6020]

Also technically the DI's weren't allowed to hit you. Also we were using the M16-A2s(they didn't have a full auto on the selector like the A1s did). Instead of the old M1's

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

sounds like brainwashing to me

[@whatever-gg2qs]

I went thru boot camp in San Diego in '96, I put my feet on those yellow prints on April 29,1996. I was in India company.

[@Patrick-xv6qv]

​@@markcarpenter6020they remove the auto fire capability from the M16s for recruits in basic training and the 3 round burst capability from the M16A2s when they started to replace the A1s. It's called an auto sear that makes them fully automatic. Remove that and it loses it full auto capability.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@Patrick-xv6qv ours had burst but they said studies had shown the full auto was bad. Too many people spraying and praying back in Vietnam and doing it so much the heat damaged the barrel. So between replacing barrels and amo usage it was decided burst was more "cost effective" than full auto. I don't really know anything about the carbine they use now. What is it the M14?

[@realBkay]

Back during this time, not only were Drill Instructors (DI) allowed to speak unfavorably to some, they could strike, punch, slap, etc., a recruit. Not these days, though.

[@markcarpenter6020]

That didn't always stop them. When I was in boot back in 95 they would still beat the hell out of recruit's during portions of the training.

[@markcarpenter6020]

That didn't always stop them. They just found ways to make it part of training.,.

[@cpob2013]

2013, they gut punched you if you talked back. Rare but it happened.

[@kingcosworth2643]

@@markcarpenter6020 When I went through in '98 they had stopped the beatings the year before and turned the old roughing up room into a tea and coffee room

[@RX-12]

Ermey was asked about that and said that kind of physical abuse wasn't allowed even in his day. He said it did sometimes happen but it wasn't sanctioned and you'd be in trouble if a superior walked in on it (unless the recruit was zoned out and it was just a light slap to get their attention).

[@kennethchapman9564]

I was in the Navy stationed in Charleston and several times I saw the DI pick up the new recruits at the airport and this is spot on. Great movie. Was in a rifle company in boot camp when economy was really bad and bootcamp was designed to weed out those who couldn't cut it.

[@planekrazy1795]

The movie was all shot in the UK, Stanley Kubrick had a pathological fear of flying and refused to leave his adopted country of England. The Training Camp depicting Paris Island is an old RAF Base used as a training facility by the British Army, the extras were mostly British Territorial Army Soldiers. The Battle Field and Vietnam sets were at the old Gas Works at Beckton east London it was due for demolition so the crew had a free hand in what they did to the site. The Helicopter is a Wessex 5 of the RAF and the flight scenes were over the marshes of the Thames Estuary UK.

[@Roadghost1969]

My late father served in the late 1950's in the USMC.Too young for the Korean War , at that time it was mandatory service you either volunteered or got drafted. Judges used to order problem teens to he military also. The Marines was only two years if you volunteered. My Father had to participate in a "Blanket Party" (The soap in towels) on two fellow Marines (they were stealing watches). Dad said that it straightened them out. And you Don't mess with the Brotherhood! After two years my father did not stay on but was on call. he got married and had us kids. He found out later the group that he was assigned to that went to Vietnam was wipe out in an ambush.

[@gorequillnachovidal]

"that's how Houdini died"-- LOL I am fucking dying

[@billdivine9501]

“Fifteen dollars???” 😂 I laughed my ass off to that reaction!

[@ColonelSandersLite]

I'm just gonna put this out there - That scene where Joker and rafterman first appear in country and they hook up with the woman for 10 each? You need to multiply that by about 25 to convert from the mid 1960s to now. So that's about 500 dollars in today's money. And that's in a place where a normal days wage is very, very, very low. Today, the minimum wage there is about 3 USD per day. So she made about 6 month's wages in just one night.

[@rhettbaldwin8320]

Some people think the treatment Pyle got was too much for him, but that's missing the point, the training worked on Pyle. They made him into a killer, and a killer can't be controlled.

[@macmcgee5116]

The apparent rediculousness of a lot of the humor between the troops is a real thing. Its called battlefield humor, its very dark and inappropriate and often comes out at strange times, like the middle of a firefight. Its basically a way that some soldiers cope with everything going on around them. They feel like if they dont laugh, they will cry... So they laugh.

[@jondirkes3423]

"I feel so FUCKED UP!..." Exactly as Stanley Kubrick intended.

[@holddowna]

He did it

[@genebohannon8820]

My friends son was punched by his DI in 68 and the one recruit that did not get punched got it at graduation. This was so the DI could keep his reputation.

[@UncleBogator]

great reaction. I used to watch this a bunch back in the early 90s before I went to Marine boot camp. It was really mentally and physically tough in 94, but not to this level. My uncle who was in viet nam said it was pretty accurate for his era.