How It Feels To Be A Halo Fan In 2024 | Response To KevinKoolx

[@Hollowtide]

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[@KevinKoolx]

Thanks for checking out the video. Was just a very raw, hit record a post type of video so I didn't really plan our what I wanted to say. The lack of certainty with the franchise, spinning my wheels in the live service or just tired of playing 4v4 arena over and over. I really want to see Halo do something new and exciting.

[@Hollowtide]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa one day

[@bobdylan1968]

The irony is insane. Old school big team and 4v4 halo is what people had begged for. Halo 5 did all that cool new shit with warzone and the same people saying what you're saying, ripped that game a new one for not being just old school 4v4 and big team.

[@LoremIpsum1919]

@@bobdylan1968 Old school big team and 4v4 were demanded in addition to new stuff.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

I really want to see you stop clickbaiting and making videos on things we don't give a shit about, but we can't all get what we want, can we?

[@bobdylan1968]

@@LoremIpsum1919 no lmao. I literally have the screen shots saved of the videos and reddit posts. Videos FROM THIS SAME GUY in the video. You ALLLLL said, all halo needed to be successful was old school 4v4 and big team. Then it was forge, then it was firefight, never ending ridiculous nonsense. You're all full of it. You'll say whatever when INEVITABLY the game isn't the next fortnite. KZbinrs are SCAMMING YOU HERE. This is for views. Halo youTubers are always hoping and praying that halo is the next big thing again, the next fortnite, SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY on their channel and make it big. When these channels don't? They pivot to rage bait and click bait and video essays about how great the old games were and how bad the new ones are. Think. Open your eye balls.

[@IntrusiveThoughts838]

For me I always remain a halo fan and enjoy it. My issue now is that it’s the community that tends to ruin the experience for me. With doom and gloom and it reaching a height of people actively wanting something to hate, even if it’s nothing. Or bash people that have guilty pleasures like halo 4. It’s tiring and even left to me no longer being subscribed to many KZbinrs due to clickbait and doom and gloom or just groveling at rumors.

[@Hollowtide]

We are in the dark times lol

[@McBoofus]

They're not wrong. Do you really believe that people hate on 343 for no justified reason? They've NEVER made a good game(and by 'good' I mean I should be held to the same standard Bungie set).

[@Brandamonium]

I'm 35 too, Also a dad of 3 kids. Halo is my all time favorite game but the time I have to play is super limited now. I am excited for the next Halo game but I also question if i'll even have the the time or desire to play it by the time it comes out. Late 2026 sounds like an eternity right now.

[@McBoofus]

Too bad 343 hates split-screen co-op. You'd be playing Halo with your kids if 343 wasn't so bloody incompetent.

[@josephhardin3203]

I’m with ya. Me personally, I’m tired of the forge maps. BO6 got old after a month and right now, I’m just catching up with the Halo books.

[@Hollowtide]

I was thinking about downloading helldivers again

[@TT-uy5el]

same here im so tired of the last few halo games. the story i find kinda boring as well. i honestly dont remember what even happened in halo 4 5 and infinite. on the bright side im reading the books for the first time. brings me back to the good old days of original halo

[@timmie1013]

Hollowtide is the best Halo KZbinr. No click bait bullcrap. No rehashing the same information 15 times in the same video. Direct and to the point. No fluff talk, no artificially being excited about new forge maps. No nonsense.

[@Hollowtide]

i appreciate you!

[@DeadEyes63]

I really relate to what you said especially about feeling so burnt out. I spent 3 years enjoying the game but it’s been a rollercoaster it’s for me at a point where I could enjoy it again but I’m so tired of the up and down that has been consistent with the game that I hardly play but like once a week and I don’t do match after match anymore

[@Hollowtide]

It's definitely been a ride.

[@Whaccd]

Halo is like Van Gogh. It was never truly loved for its greatness until it had passed away.

[@master_chonk_halo]

Damn never thought about it like that

[@y0shik0ry]

I still like it. Hyper competitive and toxicity all the same. Still play it

[@Hollowtide]

😞

[@kyletoy2556]

I'm going to have to disagree with this take. All the Bungie era games had high praise. Halo 2 and 3 had record breaking midnight launches. To be clear, these two Xbox exclusive titles, set records. Even after the Xbox 360 came out, Halo 2 still managed to be the most played game on Xbox Live until Halo 3 came out. Halo 3's online population was pretty much unbeatable until Modern Warfare 2 released, and even then it was still one of the most played games on xbox live. People definitely appreciated and loved Halo for what it was back in the day. It's the very fact that we appreciated it for what it was at the time that has so many people displeased with 343 for releasing sub par, unfinished content, and it's why so many fans have moved on at this point.

[@ArtzzyKid]

I shed a tear reading this 😢

[@Mostima115]

Still playing and having fun in Halo Custom Edition for 20 years now. MCC mods are a great time too. And i waited with starting Infinite until like 3 months ago, which was a great idea since it really is a in 1.0 state now, I am having a lot of fun in Custom games and the forge is the best we ever had. Yeah the campaign story is bad, but the story of has been ruined since Halo 4 and I am not expecting it to ever get good again after that shitshow from H4, but the gameplay in the campaign is great and finally felt like a successor to H3 (just missing an epic moment like the beach landing from CE or the tank battle from H3) and if you replace the Infinity in the beginning cutscene with the Dawn, then this would be a good H4 replacement. To cut out H4 & 5 out of the time line. Yes they ruined the chances for a big playerbase for Infinite by releasing it in an alpha/beta state and keeping it that way for 2 years, since the only day that matters for the masses is the release day, if it's not hitting it on that day then it's dead for 90% of all players. But that doesn't mean that we can't have fun with a small playerbase.

[@THEFuentes97]

Loved the video and I agree, the hope is starting to die out. I’ll never stop playing halo one way or another but it’s tough out here. If anyone still likes little halo montages I have a few posted. Shameless plug.

[@jerics]

This waiting period is getting pretty worrying but these uncontested times could be a huge advantage serving as a pregame for us to experiment and stack our skills. Also, while a lot of the old content formats don't really work anymore, I still believe that there's ways for them to be repurposed with modern twists. (Ex. adding a narrative focus to challenges, adding stakes and consequences to gameplays, turning news into documentary styled vids, etc.) Would love to chat about this one day, lots of opportunity and ideas that have not been touched by this community!

[@Hollowtide]

There’s always a niche for videos for sure, but unfortunately when something you make content is is stagnant, many creators become stagnant with it.

[@NeighborhoodWatchMann]

It's nice to love something, but this is a classic case of learning to Let It Go. I let it go last month, and switched over to fortnite, and couldn't be more happier! I realized that I was seeking the community. If this is taught me anything as an old gamer, it's to try new things and keep an open mind at all times and every facet of life! You can always pivot! You see the writing on the wall. It would be nice to have you in the fortnite realm. It's waiting for you! And once that's done, we'll let it go as well. But you know those old folks that refuse change! They're the people that don't even know how to work email, and you feel so sorry for them. I'll see you in zero build, hopefully!

[@optomysticartist7768]

Fortnite’s terrible it’s liturally wat ruined gaming is never switch to that I even played it for a couple yrs on and off and it’s trash. I’ve played 126 different games this year and none of them do it for me from a pvp aspect but the story games can b good sometimes but wen it comes to that daily grind pvp game there’s nothing as good as halo was or even close to it so there’s no other option but to hold on to halo and hope for the best

[@NeighborhoodWatchMann]

@optomysticartist7768 I used to say the same thing until I got tired of e o m m inside of Halo. And then I started playing fortnite, and then I went to events that were live on fortnite. And then I was able to have my music inside the game, and even some of my favorite characters. It's really the future LOL

[@Hollowtide]

I wish I could let go, but I just can't.

[@NeighborhoodWatchMann]

​@@Hollowtide "proque no los dos?" -Old El Paso Hard and Soft Tacos - Little Girl "why not both?"

[@Arroyoo]

I love halo very much but i have had no drive or incentive to play/grind it out besides trying to hit Hero. But even trying to hit Hero has felt like a chore more than an enjoyable experience. I know ill comeback to halo ininfte again and play for a bit but I'm probably going to be playing the games that get regular updates/ have more things to do on them.

[@dwarfboy9996]

Well said dude, I've been trying to reach Hero Rank since last year and I JUST now have reached the halfway point in Onyx

[@THEFuentes97]

Gave me a laugh with that Rolex promo

[@Hollowtide]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TT-uy5el]

Im in my mid 30s as well now and I am a very casual halo player. idk if im just getting older or the game just doesn't feel fun anymore. its too "competitive" style where the original games were more simple and had less of a learning curve to be decent. now i turn it on maybe a couple times a month i might play 1 game and just turn off the xbox. a lot of times i wont even finish the game it just feels like work now. I would love if they had a game where you played as marines, and it was more like maybe battlefield where you use a lot more vehicles and heavy weapons. i guess on the bright side ive just been reading the books for the first time

[@Hollowtide]

halo does need more "fun" and "casual" modes. looking at you grifball

[@Major_Zephyr]

There's nothing wrong with taking time away from a game to play other things or just focus on life for a while. In fact, I think that's healthier than playing one single game or franchise 24/7! I think not enough gamers understand that. That's also kind of the strength of live service games too, that every few months it's still refreshing to come back to with new content to look forward to. I am hitting that point a bit with Infinite at the moment, where I feel there's simply other games and things that are more worth my attention right now. But Halo in general has always been that franchise that I find my way back to, in between breaks and playing other things.

[@Hollowtide]

Yea I’ll always find my way back

[@ivanshamandurov9412]

The community wanted to give objective critism ans feedback And the clickbaiter took that critism and turned it into a "343 killed halo franchise again Infinite is unplayble ,people are mad " It was sad then its more sad now because we "live " with the results

[@riskiestsole1583]

I have so many Forge map ideas, and it sucks because, yeah, same, burnt out. Also, I miss how KZbin was when growing up watching Halo content creators. I've always wanted to be those guys and to an extent I am and I'm proud of that. However, now adays it feels like a needle in the haystack for non-mainstream content to even surface on my front page, which makes it hard for smaller creators to create and share with the community of said non-mainstream content. So many creators are singing into the void, unless you join like a hundred discords lmao (not just halo tubers btw) Speaking for myself, being a small creator on KZbin is like being a money starved musician on the sidewalk in Hollywood . 😅😫

[@RJberger39]

We need a new trailer for the next game at e3, as well as announcing at e3 that warzone and warzone firefight will be coming to infinite, as well as a battle royale mode. This will bring hype about the halo franchise, causing people to want to play something halo, and halo infinite will have this new and reprised content for everyone to hop on and try out, and hopefully it attracts good attention from streamers as well. We saw this happen with Fallout when the show came out. The show was good and there was tons of mainstream hype surrounding the fallout IP, and fallout 4 got a huge boost in players as a result.

[@SirJamesIGamerfuzion]

@@RJberger39 please no keep Battle Royal out of Halo lol I dislike games wanting to force modes like that

[@mr.cheese9571]

Do you know what they should do? They should make a game based off Spartan 3s headhunters

[@Hollowtide]

Yes.

[@Fudgerupper]

I feel that the focus has been on the 4v4 experience and barely any on the upgraded BTB mode they boasted about in the beginning! On top of that Squad Battle has like 8 modes while BTB has 16. Where is my Squad Battle Fieasta CTF!!😂

[@fake9340]

I Feel you man, the lack of news and updates and This long dead time in between new halo games. I can understand why its frustrating to be a halo content creator.

[@Hollowtide]

😞

[@somniumlucidus969]

Honestly i love kevinkoolx but i think hes a very intense halo player. As a person who is now in his unc phase and is just a casual player... this is my favorite halo. I love it. I'll be playing for a looooong time.... like 30min to an hour and a half 1 - 2x a week tho. Maybe if i was playing like kevinkoolx i'd feel the same, but thats why i dont make videogames my life.

[@larsroom2136]

These days I play halo because………halo is the game I play and have always played. Mainly I switch my brain off and have a podcast playing, some matches engage me, some I just zone out and go through the motions. It’s a shame but the as great as the gameplay is the lack of sandbox expansions and slow trickle of maps and modes just don’t do enough to keep it fresh enough. It makes me sad.

[@MadaraTheUltimate]

I just going to be brutally honest, it takes six years to make aaa games in this day and age with a full studio, now with the management change the mass lay offs that happened during a company wide hiring freeze(all of Microsoft) and switching to unreal engine how much work do you think they have gotten done, not trying to sound mean but it’s like halo fans and content creators live in this fairytale land mindset, and with abk and Bethesda Microsoft doesn’t have to worry rushing out halo games, so looking at the reality of thing I would be massively shock if we see anything next halo game related next summer.

[@Hollowtide]

😬

[@saintxrage2311]

Just like you I will always and still do love Halo. I can see how you and the other Halo content creators can feel the burnout faster than casual players (except for Mint). Times are just different my man. CoD seems to be the only old IP that can keep up with the times.

[@Hollowtide]

Mint is a machine that doesn’t break

[@joshuaschumacher5594]

Everyone needs to go try halo flashpoint. That’s something new and fun. My fiance and I have been loving it!

[@Hollowtide]

whats that

[@joshuaschumacher5594]

@@Hollowtide it’s the new Halo tabletop game from Mantic games. It’s a really fast paced and surprisingly faithful recreation of the Halo multiplayer. Look up some gameplay and check it out!

[@joshuaschumacher5594]

@ I don’t think the reply went through so my apologies if you are seeing this twice. Halo Flashpoint is the new tabletop game from Mantic. It is a fast paced and surprisingly faithful recreation of the Halo multiplayer. You should definitely look into it if you are into tabletop games!

[@Sk8TheBapes]

I feel like Halo Infinite was the last chance to create a widely popular and successful arena-style Halo game. I just can’t see another release from the 'new' dev team succeeding if it sticks to the traditional 4v4 and Big Team Battle format. Moving forward, I think the only viable path for Halo is either crafting exceptional campaign-only titles or taking a completely new and modernized approach to multiplayer. As a longtime Halo fan, especially of the multiplayer, I’ll always hope for an amazing classic arena-style Halo game-but I don’t think that’s the future for the franchise anymore.

[@samuelmunoz1464]

Here's what I invasion. Halo Studios and other studios work single player campaigns. At the same time they continue to add to infinite as the default multiplayer for the games infinite 2.0. They transfer everything to unreal including the cosmetics players have already purchased. Bring back seasons, update network, bring back Warzone, and eventually a Br mode.

[@Hollowtide]

Man…

[@MasturPayton]

Been saying this for 3 years. This is the way. ​@samuelmunoz1464

[@kab51_]

Im planning to start a halo channel (would be the first ín my country!) but I realized im way past my "prime", and I dont even have any motivation to play the game. Its a tough time to be a halo fan, but we'll get through it eventually! Or all of us leave halo and the community dies. What a negative way to end a comments lol

[@Hollowtide]

You should start!

[@JyvieGaming]

Basically how I feel

[@Kaimerah]

I love Halo. Dont know how yall make a living off this series especially with infinite for the past 4 years

[@Hollowtide]

I def do not make a living off it lol

[@matthewk4912]

Ever since the last Infinite season, the game has been crashing for me on PC. Used to not experience crashes - but at this point the game has become unplayable. I'm very frustrated because Infinite is the only game that crashes, no other game does not even Infinite used to do that. And I'm also frustrated by 343 abandoning every story thread they introduce and always being reactionary and trying to course correct while throwing out things that never got a chance to be properly developed. It's become really hard to be a Halo fan.

[@Hollowtide]

have you submitted a ticket?

[@javiers.ramirez7862]

Yea its definitely died down a lot. Also found myself hating on the current halo KZbinrs like Mintblitz for recycling old content and footage rewording what what says in the last videos.

[@Rafi_Poc]

Halo it's trough and trough a 2000's game. I honestly don't believe there is still room for Halo. Maybe if they made a single player only, but multiplayer wise Halo doesn't stand a chance

[@Shatterfish]

I agree with the feeling of burnout on the franchise with how up and down it’s been both in quality and communication from the studio. Honestly, the franchise has one more shot to do something to recapture an audience. The last 2 main line games are considered failures by both the general audience and the developers/publisher. The first real attempt to branch out beyond books and videos games with the TV show was a total dumpster fire. $500 million to develop Slipspace and Infinite. $10 million an episode for the TV show, so about $200 million for that. Microsoft is out almost three quarters of a *BILLION* on Halo in the last 5 years with very, *very* little to show for it except for derogatory memes and an apathetic to hostile fanbase. As much as Microsoft doesn’t want to publicly admit their tentpole IP is in the shitter, it very much is and they are keenly aware of it. I cannot see them continuing to absorb such insane losses coupled with such wildly negative feedback past 1 more attempt to reverse the trend. I think the reason 343i/HS is even getting another shot is because even though Infinite failed there were some genuinely positive trends that can be capitalized on if the studio isn’t headed up by a bunch of chimps, hence the mass top floor restructuring. This is all just my layman’s opinion, of course, and it may just be I’m huffing copium, but we’ll see what the next few years bring.

[@Hollowtide]

i am PRAYING that we get a good animated show and game

[@Shatterfish]

@Hollowtide I would do nasty things for another round of Legends. Canon or not that shit slapped

[@soccergoku24]

The problem with Halo is that it hasn't grown past the Arena 4v4 successfully. It just been the same thing repeatedly since it's been out. For example, it doesn't matter what kind of armor you wear as a Spartan because every player has the exact same traits. This is one of the many reasons why Halo has gone downhill over the years.

[@Hollowtide]

:(

[@CD-fn7wd]

The devs put aim assisted nades in the game. Weighted maps way too heavily. Sold the color blue. Used a monkey emblem for black history month. Launched without team slayer. No champ rank. Took away skill jumps. Put shotguns in ranked. Never ever fixed spawns at all. And yall will still blame Microsoft lol

[@adan507]

For me it was the controller AA volume that made ranked not enjoyable from a MNK perspective and the SBMM making the social part not social and fun, always carry 3 bots vs another dude carrying his 3 bots for a 50-48 slayer gets boring after 3 games. So yes, burnt out and i just ocassionaly play it or watch some HCS.

[@Hollowtide]

Yea that AA is rough lol

[@optomysticartist7768]

He’s right

[@Hollowtide]

Kevin is a good dude

[@Palumpalumpa]

Hey, if you're looking for another multiplayer FPS to play take a look at The Finals, I absolutely love it.

[@Hollowtide]

I heard it might be getting canned like xdefiant

[@Palumpalumpa]

@@Hollowtide Nexon revealed that it's not performing as hoped but I think it's still quite healthy, on Steam it has 4.4 times the daily concurrent players of Halo Infinite and is well supported. Then anything can be, if it's at risk of being shut down all the more reason I would play it while it's still possible, for me it's the nicest surprise in the multiplayer shooter landscape of the last decade.

[@Hollowtide]

@@Palumpalumpa lemme see if i can get the bois on

[@donmibay3022]

I can't lie this video feels like it's 3 months old. I mean it feels insightful for then but it just feels outdated with all the new development that halo studios has opened and how they've made announcements for what the next halo will be. Great content though.

[@bobdylan1968]

Its a game. Maybe peoples problems is there expectation that its supposed to devour their life like they are 16 again. And they are ALWAYS going to be disappointed when it's not this earth shattering cultural phenomenon. We all want our favorite thing to be the big thing. Especially KZbinrs who obviously obsess over it for views. But its unhealthy. Its created a toxic, atrocious community to be a part of that almost no one new wants to join. So many people helped make yhe entire experience miserable, and then wonder where all the hype and love and excitement for the franchise went. People behaved like absolute ravenous animals over infinite and the halo tv show the past few years. And yeah, the entire experience hss been draining for everyone. So much so that 343 changed their freaking name lol..

[@gulsher5247]

Have you tried marvel rivals yet? Maybe play that, its more fun

[@Hollowtide]

i have not!

[@mjitalia7249]

Hopefully Unreal Engine 5 will improve the game and content.

[@mjitalia7249]

Halo Warzone was fantastic.

[@Hollowtide]

we pray

[@solclipse2205]

I want Wendy’s

[@scottlenjenkins410]

As long as halo leaves A.I. generated art out of their games I'll buy anything. Boycott COD they use A.I. instead of artists.

[@JanusDuo]

Eww, those baked in captions are just a little too high or the font is a little too big or both. Yeah, your reticule is still visible but at times the gameplay is very hard to follow through the captions. Honestly I wouldn't care if the in game AI captions were obscured by the added captions. At least get em a little lower...I'm guessing this is also a short or a TikTok and you put the captions there to look better on a smartphone in portrait orientation after chopping off the sides of the original footage?

[@Hollowtide]

thank you for the feedback, no its not a tiktok or short or anything like that. i had gotten positive feedback on the cc in some previous videos but i will take your critiques into consideration for the next video!

[@Jojo-nq3bp]

spent 180hrs in infinite tired of it ngl i need marathon

[@Hollowtide]

😞

[@quest1856]

😢

[@rm25088]

if Halo didn't turn into a money grab piece of junk with retconned everything, people would still be excited about it. But nope. Lets make the game almost unrecognizable to what it used to be. To say the franchise is on life support is an understatement. But the positive news is they actually do seem to be trying a little so we will see. Lets hope the next game is good.

[@SovereignRose]

Halo died during reach with the birth of 343. They changed the for.ula and the intended audiance. If people like.modern halo good form them, but I wont be back to any new halo. I finished the fight back in 2012.

[@Hollowtide]

:/

[@woodsgump]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE please please peopel do NOT make grifting videos or negative BS like Mint Blitz and other people do.

[@Hollowtide]

are you saying this is a "negative" video? just expressing my thoughts on where i personally am, i think my content speaks for itself when it comes to my direction towards the franchise. i am always hopeful and excited for whats next

[@kilmatix1990]

Tired. Yea.

[@McBoofus]

3:06 Maybe you should cover mods on the steam workshop if you really want to make interesting content surrounding Halo. You won't(and never will) get that from the developers.