Hollywood Myths vs. Reality - Mythbusters - Science Documentary

[@3fast5you]

"Jamies House of bent barrels" caught me by surprise, that was funny as hell. "Curved ammo not included" lmao

[@s.e.wagger3888]

Yes, it's right "out there" for Jamie. They are such an "Odd Couple". Adam is almost ADHD with his humour, excitement and behaviour. But Jamie is so dead-pan and serious most of the time. In other words..... I don't think these guys move in the same social circles outside of work!!

[@Lundis919191]

@@s.e.wagger3888 They dont ^^

[@blahfasel2000]

@@s.e.wagger3888 It's well known that they weren't friends. Jamie even straight up said in a 2021 interview that he didn't like Adam. But they 100% respected each other professionally, quote Jamie: "If you're like me, then what's the use of you? I need someone different to work with".

[@Astuga]

During WW2 the Germans experimented on a rifle that could shoot around corners. Looked quite similar to this one. But of course for different reasons it wasnt a concept to be used in real life. The Israelis als invented such a gun, but it is basically just a handgun in a stock or adapter that is foldable.

[@gnomethegamer9706]

You're easily impressed if you found that profoundly funny!

[@HorizonMakes]

25:30 "this is the hardest wood i've ever worked with" lmaoo

[@josephkarl2061]

It was technically true, but the wink just sent it into Benny Hill territory 🤣🤣

[@smirkza]

The wink got me 😂

[@1337fraggzb00N]

Almost as hard as morning wood.

[@Nooziterp1]

Oooh matron!

[@KalatSaar]

hje sayd wood .. not woody 🙂

[@logangraham2956]

i think when people say the explosions wont work in a vaccuum they forget that the explosives have all the chemical components required for the explosion in them. it doesn't need the oxygen from the air because it has an oxidizer in it already.

[@demondragonshi5161]

Also a rocket is just a controlled explosion

[@fredEVOIX]

every EV owner will learn sooner or later what thermal runaway is

[@Nereosis16]

​@@fredEVOIXEvery ICE driver will learn that explosions hurt sooner or later

[@BenjWarrant]

Well, that becomes obvious when the gun fires. Interestingly for me, it probably means that guns will go off underwater, which I had previously thought was impossible. After this, and thinking about it, it falls into the category of Sybil Fawlty's specialist subject, *the bleeding obvious.* When a firing pin hits the cartridge, there's no way oxygen could get in; there's a metal shell all around and behind the explosive matter with a shell in front of it; how would oxygen get in there?

[@uncletiggermclaren7592]

@@BenjWarrant After a certain amount of time, water gets into the cartridge.

[@vsiegel]

A tape measure is rolled in its case, and the centre does not contain tape. So hitting the centre in the third test, largest bullet, does not say anything about shooting the actual measuring tape.

[@cardiffpicker1]

I was just checking someone hadn't said thar before I put it up.

[@KalatSaar]

You have to pull out the Tape to the half distance .. then in the outer space its the tape .. in the inner part the steal feather :-)

[@therealjamesmarchant]

Also, if it stops a 9mm, and there are plenty of 9mm guns out there, then I would say that the myth is plausible, not busted...

[@andyf4292]

well it is rolled steel..

[@andrewpyrah]

How else are you going to do it?

[@chriscook1987]

I reject the results of the bullet proof tape measure . The first 2 shots hit the actual rolled up spring steel ruler side on , very strong , The third shot was in the centre , a weak part .

[@ahahahaha496]

So what you're telling us is that their test didn't 😏 measure up😉

[@despob6874]

There is nothing but a small screw which holds the a plastic circle holding the coiled spring which rolls back the tape.

[@moodyrick8503]

Right on the mark! I was just going to comment, on that exact point. _A major "hole" in their conclusion, indeed._

[@d4slaimless]

29:42 "Every single atom". That's an overstatement. They didn't have equipment to make such a deep vacuum.

[@TruthNerds]

In fact, removing every atom of air from such a large container is very difficult. CERN does pride itself with making a vacuum sparser than interstellar space using cryogenic pumping in the LHC (Large Hadron Collider). That's less than 100 particles per cubic meter (less than 3 particles per cubic foot for Americans).

[@d4slaimless]

@@TruthNerds Yep. Very tricky stuff. The walls of the chamber itself can supply molecules of volatile compounds. And that's another reason why Mythbusters wouldn't have had very deep vacuum. There are too many things to consider, and it requires large amount of money.

[@TruthNerds]

@@d4slaimless Yes, at CERN they regularly subject the chamber components to a high temperature "bake-out". In my limited understanding, by purposely increasing outgassing for a while, they thus reduce the outgassing rate after the procedure (because there's a more or less constant time average).

[@paavobergmann4920]

They reduced pressure by about 80%

[@jonathanschultz4045]

Obviously it is. The gun was still in there, and guns are made out of atoms.

[@samuelnewitt6978]

38:08 Tory suddenly remembering muzzle discipline 😅

[@wessexdruid7598]

38:20 - but not recoil.

[@CraftMine1000]

Now that's a intro

[@pakuma3]

Best mythbusters into ever!

[@michaelappleseed1993]

How much does one episode make?

[@borntoclimb7116]

​@@pakuma3 total agree

[@KGOY06]

I'm so high right now this is fucking amazing I love it

[@borntoclimb7116]

@@KGOY06 ok

[@ThePerradox]

We sent Adam and Jamie back to the old west to see --- Can you build a fully functioning timemachine ---Using only ducttape??

[@semibiotic]

Since you can build x-ray with Scotch tape ...

[@bazzatron9482]

Jamie doing a skit with an accent is so heartwarming. Despite everything, Adam must have loosen him up a little over time ❤😅

[@myztklk3v]

Jamie purposely brought Adam on because he knew he couldn't carry the show by himself.

[@theTeknoViking]

@@myztklk3v Adam had been working for Jamie for years already when the show was sold/picked up.

[@jaykingsun7093]

Lossened*

[@diegomontilva6039]

I love being able to watch the mythbusters again

[@LaneHelms]

Proves that America’s are obsessed with guns and violence.

[@Davross-420]

Forget laser blasters in a space conflict… BIG IRON

[@ChristellaKury]

This episode was never aired in the UK. It's interesting to finally see it.

[@alanfrost4661]

Nasty things like guns and knives banned in the uk

[@MrMarinus18]

Solid rockets are not usually used in space which is why people might think they don't work. They work just fine in space, however they have fairly poor thrust to weight ratio's and are difficult to make controllable. That's why most rockets use them as boosters to overcome drag. At launch their additional weight doesn't matter as much as they will be discarded halfway through and the fact that they aren't controllable isn't a big deal cause you just need a lot of brute force to overcome drag at low altitude. The upside is that they are fairly cheap, reliable and scale up really well. Liquid fuel get's tricky at large scales with large cryogenic tanks and a lot of complicated pumps and plumbing.

[@mammaletsplay5295]

The ISP for a solid rocket motor is around 300. Liquid fuels get over 400. Yes, that's 1/3 more which ist significant. The Thrust for a SRM is the burning surface times the exit velocity (why its hard to pin a number to it). Which means that the thrust is really high. a LFR has a max chamberpressure which is way lower why the thrust is lower. For the escape of the gravity well its just way more efficient to use SRM. You would have to use many more nozzles with an LFR which lowers its ISP because you have to drag more weight on the ride and require more fuel to achieve the same thrust. Let`s talk about Saturn 5 for the controlablity thing, if i remember correctly each booster produces around 90.000 kN of thrust. If one booster is misalignemt by 1% thats a sidewards force of 90 kN for the entire time the booster is firing, that can alter your flight path. Some SRMs use flaps outside or gimble the nozzle to produce steering. that SRM are cheap and easy to manifacture is another factor why they are chosen often times. They are just dirty af. another down side: once lit they are going till there is nothing more left, control is almost impossible.

[@Wesguus]

9:15 "if it does make it through we'll increase the caliber" Hmm something seems off

[@sabbilon4542]

the .22 would probably gone through the center on the tape measure. Most likely nothing but a plastic spool inside there. The perimeter is where the wound spring and metal tape is.

[@alaric_]

That 135 degrees bent barrel... The bullet had still significant energy but it also travelled sideways while going through the ballistic block!

[@kungfudavie]

Probably because when they bent the barrel they compromised the barrel itself. The internal diameter was likely damaged and it was smaller. It would have sausaged the lead round and then it would have lost rifling and tumbled. If they could have bent with a sizing rod inside in theory maybe it could have worked.

[@fireandcopper]

38:07 just about flagged grant there

[@Fruitcupper]

0:50 "WITNESS MEEEEE!" 44:28 Fryer in the hole! 🤣🤣

[@GaionSputro]

Thanks for the timestamp. Now l can watching it more shortly.

[@jyripeltola6677]

I remember when I was in the 1st grade in school here in Finland when an old Finnish veteran came to the class to talk to us and I don't remember much about the speech, but I remember vividly a story from the war when he was shot in the chest, but he had some kind of metal box in his pocket right where the heart is and he showed us that box, it had a hole on one side and still a flattened out bullet inside that box.

[@coreybass3760]

The Wilhelm Scream was used SO many times in this episode. :-)

[@PlutoTheSecond]

22:08 Grantdalf. 😂

[@methamphetamememcmeth3422]

Happy that Demolition Ranch has tested most of these myths and more.

[@sagarnegi9464]

The animations were cool

[@RenanDavidSoriaAhumada]

Nice Intro i wanna see if a ShotgunSpear its usefull 7:01 for a plastic barrier that thing really can Stand Bullets 10:50 its the Position in the center there is a huge empty space more near the edges there is Steel tape stoping the bullets

[@stephencooper9753]

Powerhead, they use in them in spearfishing. Really need a bit of a barrel though, most of the power will be lost out the side and around the shells, not directing the shot.

[@mrab4222]

7:19 Loss of energy of 7%? No. It's a loss of speed of 7%, and kinetic energy is proportional to the square of the speed.

[@enderyu]

It was a 13.5% loss not accounting for spin

[@stephencooper9753]

Most cheap .22 rounds would likely have that sort of spread anyway. Only firing 1 shot each wasnt very scientific, then again, they never are on this show. A better test would have been use target grade ammo, which is more consistent. Also, slower. So many different calibres and bullet combos, and they are basing it off just a .22.

[@FiniteEntity]

@@stephencooper9753 Exactly this, it's within the outer range of variance for a lot of .22 lr ammo for velocity. What probably would be a bigger problem for this hand bent gun would be performance at greater distance, they probably messed up the twist rate along the bore by bending it like that, it will be variable twist (and not progressive, something increasing then decreasing) and with a soft bullet probably some rather uneven deformation. Very inaccurate. (Oh, and EDIT, unpaused and they mentioned that it was tumbling already) But, I suppose they're testing bending a barrel right back at the guy who is pointing the gun at them in this Myth so. Also, totally agree with you about the general "problem" with Mythbusters, they never take variance into account. I seem to recall some "toast always lands butter side down" and doing like two flips and expected a 1:1 result, which is such a failure of thinking about probabilities. But it's entertaining, and I think still kind of educational in a way that it stimulates the idea of experimenting (even if they're not doing it rigourosly).

[@WwarpfirewW]

@@FiniteEntity The problem with variance was that they had limited time to make these episodes and also length of each episode, so many things must be cut out. In many episodes you can hear them saying that they repeated or tried more variety that they can count on it, but its not shown in the video due to time limit.

[@233kosta]

They never were very good with the physics of it...

[@Auto70Galaxy]

RIP Grant Imahara a truely genuine and good person.

[@HalNordmann]

33:48 Not sure where that theory came from, considering solid-propellant "kickstages" have been used in space pretty much since the first rockets to orbit.

[@mpadlite2925]

There are (unfortunately( for themselves)) plenty of "smooth brains" who claim this. Often along with other st0p1d 5h1t Like the earth being flat and/or the moolandings being faked... Etc... Best regards

[@A_N1ne]

I wonder if the bullet proof wallet talked about in the myth was a police badge wallet? I know some police forces give out wallets to hold your badge along with other identification and we know that from a previous episode that some older style badges were bullet prof. Doesn't change the conclusion as the wallet its self wasn't bullet prof, just thinking about what could've been in the wallet to make it bullet prof

[@cyberfox981]

lots of coins in the wallet have ability to stop many of pistol calibers.

[@netts2315]

Nothing is "bullet prof". What you're talking about is being bullet resistant, or being able to stop bullets up to certain caliber, not being bullet proof.

[@chrisbraid2907]

I have a small Leatherman credit card size tool in my wallet …. That could probably stop a nine mil …

[@frantisekhnojcik7847]

I was thinking the same thing what about coins..

[@0menadds]

Where is the Range officer ? @38:07 we see a slide locked open, straight finger, but on the left he points his “ unloaded ? “ pistol directly at both his two colleagues @38:08 or 38:9 he realises. This take should have been reshot, or edited out. Not safe firearms handling. Not demonstrating how responsible adults use handguns. Despite the frame locked open that should confirm there is probably not a live round still in the chamber after the slide blew back and probably ejected a spent round. Range safety is about good practice always making no assumptions at all times, not about a general principle that you should do most of the time. It’s not an accident if nobody gets hurt ? It’s an accident when the fundamental principles are broken once, so that we learn from the accident that had no major consequences, and don’t have another sim😢accident that has catastrophic consequences. Those safety principles at gun ranges should be just as critical to scientists who want to teach science and entertain children. Don’t say “ no big issue “ because if he does it again in another situation in the future and someone dies, this video will go viral. Why is Alec Baldwin in so much trouble? Range safety was not a high enough priority. When Alec was advised what he was doing was unsafe, he ignored the younger woman. Range Safety: We are all learning, we learn from good instructions, demonstrations, and learning from our mistakes. Mistakes, accidents.. they happen, they keep on happening.. are we learning or making the responsibility someone else’s problem?

[@bromista3759]

They all point their respective pistols at their own feet, at least .. slides are locked open. No straight finger grip. 😔

[@Jagooon]

The 45cal went through because it was in the center. It hit the axis which is not as resistant as the rest of the part.

[@BruceG-dw5gy]

So the shotgun spear didn't work against the wolf ( surrounded by air) but it sure worked against sharks (surrounded by water). Commonly used when scuba diving in infested waters some 50 years ago.

[@oskarskalski2982]

12:35 Demolition Ranch did 180 degree bent barrel using 5.56, not just measly 22 and it worked fine, I mean fine for one shot;). But it worked for that one shot. [EDIT] I just rewatched and it worked fine for 2 shots.

[@Gnag]

So a 1911 shot and cycled seemingly perfectly, while being submerged in boiling oil...

[@stevo68]

I don't think that 45 caliber round went through the tape.

[@radnwavy]

The whole back was blown out

[@thecrazyfarmboy]

​@@radnwavyyou're misunderstanding, he's saying that it only went through the housing of the tape measure abd probably a plastic spool, but not the actual steel tape used to take measurements. There's no way it's wrapped so tight that a centre hit will hit it, they should have tried again hitting it off-center to see if that stops it

[@radnwavy]

@@thecrazyfarmboy I agree. I misunderstood. And you're both right about the tape

[@bjlewis5431]

It was a .40 cal bullet, (not a .45 cal) that was used on the tape measure..and it didn't hit the coil of steel 'tape' coiled around the outside edges inside the housing..it went through the center of the tapemeasures's housing & only hit the NOT steel winder mechanism & housing..so, strictly speaking, it was a miss, not a hit on the 'tape' inside the tapemeasure on that .40 cal round.

[@conexant51]

A standard .22 LR has an average muzzle velocity of 375 - 380 m/s, which is faster than a standard 9mm Luger, 124gr bullet which clocks in at about 340 m/s.

[@RobbyFindlay-uq2dy]

Wow😮! That was awesome. You guys are so much fun to watch. Great transmission👍 Love it❤

[@alcodie1558]

MythBusters really was a good show "!! RIP Grant !!"

[@minderbinderful]

I'M just going to say, the germans made bent barrel machine guns during WW2. it was a screw on thing for a gun. they found the second added barrel had a limited lifespan, and the rifling pattern did not have to be matched to the initial barrel

[@Callsign-Wolf]

Only realising now that Jamie is low-key hilarious.

[@AndrewNiccol]

I didn't expect hot oil to trigger the gun to fire.

[@ObiWahn68]

7:17 I think Adam forgot that energy is proportional to velocity squared, so the loss of energy is actually 13.5%.

[@petewilliamson2038]

When you bend a , either use a pipe spring or packed with sand to keep the internal diameter consistent

[@solothkaroftrinsic3852]

Wallet could be true. Like in World of Tanks, the angling of the "armor" can effect the results.

[@robertscheu9771]

when you bend a steel pipe always fill it with something like sand... this will prevent deforming/narrowing the diameter

[@commonsenseasleep]

Hmmm the bent barrel really surprised me.. didn't see that angle coming 😊

[@borntoclimb7116]

Awesome, i love multible myths in a Episode.

[@kunstwert]

40:31 classic Grant "Muahahaha!!"

[@georgekostaras]

That intro was so epic

[@notorioushkm97]

One of the Best Intros, only thing missing was the original intro theme song

[@fordman38]

38:05 Tory points his weapon at Kari, he new he fucked up, it's plain to see in his reaction. It's always the hot chicks to die first. Bad Tory

[@bromista3759]

Yes, I saw it too and I have seen others made similar ( longer ) comments. They all point their pistols at their feet. Slides ARE locked open, but their collective range safety is surprisingly bad. All this was probably recorded many years before Alec Baldwins arrogant accident, that could have been avoided..

[@alexandriahunter2125]

Ironically, the fact Jamie seemed to occasionally not get the idea that they were making a TV show made for some great TV.

[@mpumeleloist]

that 3 had zero gun safety on their minds lol so much muzzle sweeping

[@jsnap1]

22:48 Well if Kerry ever struggles financially she could always earn thousands making fursuits 😅

[@sonofawil]

It’s the part where they got the 10-22 with the upgraded trigger that gets me.

[@glennwright9747]

From personal experience, a ball of string captures a .22 with almost no deformation of the lead bullet.

[@kyuofcosmic]

Love that intro! Really nice rotoscoping animation.

[@Leothor]

that intro animation definitely deserved a shout out...

[@myparceltape1169]

I wonder about my grandfather's matches box. Made of two layers of gunmetal which lock together with a partial partition between them to restrain the matches.

[@kneeknocker1967]

RIP Grant 🥀

[@kosta_k_86]

18:59 The golf ball as a projectile looks better

[@klackon1]

There is a popular story concerning a British soldier who always carried a metal cigarette case in his left chest pocket. This cigarette case actually stopped a German bullet from hitting him in the heart. Unfortunately, it ricochet up his left nostril and blew his brains out.

[@BoltonOverlander]

If you know how a tape measure works shooting at dead center, probably any ammo will go right through it as it's probably just a piece of plastic in the center. I would say there's probably an inch of solid rolled steel all around that center peace which is why it stopped nine mm and 22 but the 45 penetrated. if the 45 penatrated the piece off center it may have stopped it.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

What about a Ridge wallet? _"perfect gift for fathers day"_

[@ferrari2k]

Whoever created that western style graphics needed to have a raise, they soooo remind me of that old Outlaws game from the late 90ies... And now I want a game with those graphics and characters :D :D :D

[@jonzuihgaming7558]

The whole shotgun shell on a stick thing though is actually a weapon that exists for divers :D

[@NunchucksHabit]

Something I learned in a gun safety course, was that any misfire (such as a bang stick denting a primer), you wait 60 seconds (used to be 30 seconds) before the shell/cartridge is safe to handle. Delayed misfires happen....and there's one caught on video where the shot goes through the guy's baseball hat visor as he's just about to look down the barrel (something else you never do). Luckily his hat is all that flew off. Misfires in this video were super casual to say the least. I know it's got "don't try this at home" everywhere in this video, but a bang-stick is far too easy for teenagers to try.

[@andyharris3084]

The rocket in the vacuum is an excellent demonstration of Newton's Third Law of motion. Contrary to what flat earthers would claim, propulsion clearly does not need something to "push against".

[@MultiLtx]

38:09 torys gun safety....

[@bugsygoo]

😲

[@Bastardsword01]

Came here to say that.

[@airbornebrick6885]

was looking for this comment lol

[@wessexdruid7598]

44:46 - you're invited to a cook-off....

[@Fireball7428]

During WW2 the Germans actually had developed bent barrels for their infantry. The problem was barrel erosion - after 150-200 shots a bent barrel usually had a hole in it, and not the one intended by its designer.

[@PopAlien]

I think when you shoot a higher caliber like 5.56 or 7.62 the bullet is gonna break the barrel and I really don't understand how the riflings are not broken after bending

[@Kaldrin]

The intro is amazing

[@DevilishmanThe]

I laugh everytime they say they love duct tape ever since Adam admitted he really hated the stuff.

[@mecanomy]

You should try starch paste.. Under normal conditions, when left alone, it is like a "soft and watery slurry". But when it encounters a hard blow, it becomes strangely hard. This slurry can stop bullets of many calibers.

[@vaughanellis7866]

I have one question around the “Will a gun go off in hot oil” myth, why was the propane burner burning with a Yellow Flame? I’ve used similar burners and they are at their most efficient with a Blue Flame!

[@EnricoHoover]

Not a fair test. The tape measure has a coil of tightly wound steel (the tape) inside it, that steel would be approximately 1 inch thick. The 9mm would have hit that coil. However, the 40 calibre went through the centre which is essentially empty space. The spring coil is in there, but in the centre of the case what's actually there to stop the projectile? You shouldn't try and bullshit a bullshitter.

[@wolvie90]

Rewatching Mythbusters again 20 years later, I really feel like an early teenager again, complete with the crush on Kari...

[@patsmith9360]

An extra set of elongated fins attached to the output side of the centre shaft. Inside of a jet type nozzle it could act as a second stage turbo.

[@Kraziihype]

yop I saw you point the gun at that guy but you lowered it quickly...that's good

[@asafpelleh7594]

Bullets use dry fuel that ignites no matter what (Some won't ignite in water) so in a vacuum the pressure from the outside is actually pulling the bullet.

[@NoosaHeads]

They should have put a deformable mandrel in the barrel, first, to prevent kinking.

[@Sethioz]

gun in frier was biggest disappointment, cuz they only used 1 bullet, i really wanted to see what happens if you drop a gun with full mag or half a mag. i'm curious to know how it goes off, will all bullets go at same time (i doubt it)? or will the start popping like popcorn? or will they bounce out of the tub and explode in mid-air? that's something i really wanted to see and they didn't even test

[@user-ve9cs7ee6x]

bahahaha his aussie magician accent was so accurate

[@adonayespinosamontano3940]

I have seen a couple of times Adam talking like Barney. Or Barney like Adam? Wait for it...

[@maartenvanderzwan8281]

The tape measure question It was shot in the middle where isnt any tape Shme they didnt try again.

[@nicomeier8098]

Tape measure stopped the 9mm but the 10 mm went through. But....what ammo did you use for them? And what kind of bullets? What were the bullet speeds? If you want to at least keep some level of science in your tests do mention "little" facts like that.

[@maszkalman3676]

This "show" as scientific as pimp my ride was about car repairs to make the trashed cars (by them no less) useable for the owner....🤣😆🤣😆

[@Chrinik]

Would have loved if they explained why the gun fired in a vacuum. It's simple, really, and the same reason why a gun can fire under water. The cartidge is a sealed system, the primer, case and bullet form an air tight package. Now that would prevent any form of fire if the case didn't have air in it. Which it does. And additionally, propellants have their own oxidizing properties, meaning that they can provide their own oxygen to burn.

[@johansmith4764]

My question is the sound in the vacuum chamber. Did the explosion of the gunpowder really produce enough gas to make the sound?

[@CyDummy]

They should have filled the barrel before bending it like they do when producing instruments. 🤔

[@mellchiril]

I'm shocked, there's something that duct tape can't do?! My life is now a lie... Somehow I almost expected duct tape to end up surprising us once more, but it won't stop bullets, fair enough haha.

[@MrOlgrumpy]

The "boom stick" was known as a " smokey " in Australia,it was/is an anti shark spear for diver protection using of course a 303 cartridge,succeeded by a shotgun shell,either fired from a spear-gun or hand held.😉😉🙃🙃🙃 No I don't own one,or two,they are illegal as are all forms of ballistic self defence in this country !!

[@tommytstang]

The bang stick is used to deter sharks

[@84Rabbitz]

You should have dug out a round to see what it looked like!!!

[@paulaction9874]

Right through the centre hole of the measuring tape.

[@RevilHermes]

Hahaha the hardest wood he ever worked with:D

[@WH40KHero]

I wonder what would have happened if they deep fried a gun with a fully loaded magazine. That would have been a firework

[@poppers7317]

Who would've thought that Bugs Bunny cartoons were that realistic.

[@кяуртіс]

That poor 1911 being fried.. also lol 9mm

[@Rando_Shyte]

Also, nobody has ever believed that solid rocket boosters don't work in space, they have their own oxydiser...