Hollywood's First "It" Girl Was Tragic

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4 ай бұрын

With her tomboy charms and expressive face, Clara Bow took Old Hollywood by storm. She was one of the most iconic “It” Girls of her day-in fact, she practically invented the term. But sadly, the glitz and glamour of Tinseltown quickly turned sour, and the starlet suffered a downfall that was as tragic as it was legendary.
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@willowwinkle
@willowwinkle 4 ай бұрын
"Clearly, Clara had issues. Hollywood responded with cruelty." - Welp, nothing has changed in 110 years.
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 3 ай бұрын
There's nothing new under the sun.
@lalani888blue
@lalani888blue 3 ай бұрын
We'll likely never hear the half of what Hollywood did to her.
@Jesusisking2pw3
@Jesusisking2pw3 2 ай бұрын
The family should taker of them, hollywood a work place and money machine.
@seeleunit2000
@seeleunit2000 29 күн бұрын
Yep, that sums it up
@Aivottaja
@Aivottaja 20 күн бұрын
No it hasn't. HoIIywood is a chIid raep assembly line.
@elainealibrandi6364
@elainealibrandi6364 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why, even now, Clara's years-long rape by her father was lightly glossed over as "evidence" he "mistreated" her. Really? That could mean anything. Very disappointed. I guess the crime isn't taboo; the mention of it is.
@user-rn4qs9vu7l
@user-rn4qs9vu7l 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the subject is still taboo. Surviors are still being blamed for the perps. actions and demonised as a result. I totally get where Clara was coming from. There's nothing I would like more than to be a recluse..... 🙃🇬🇧
@jpp2377
@jpp2377 3 ай бұрын
First video from this channel I have seen but what you say above is all that is needed to understand her life, most definitely her father was not the only one considering how Hollywood is
@elainealibrandi6364
@elainealibrandi6364 3 ай бұрын
@@jpp2377 Even outside of Hollywood: My family, the cops, everyone tried to shut me up whenever I tried to tell them what my own brother was doing to me.
@sweetpurple8812
@sweetpurple8812 3 ай бұрын
@@elainealibrandi6364its because pedophilia is so hated and deviant to american society that the hate is so strong mention of anything corresponding is never treated with logic in any way and can never be discussed and if it is it id virile hate and shaming and revenge killings and shaming etc. Its such a dark rabbit hole
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
@@elainealibrandi6364 Hello Elaine, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@Deepbluecat
@Deepbluecat 4 ай бұрын
As much sh** as Louise Brooks got from Hollywood, I respect her even more for tearing into the press for disregarding Clara Bow ...good on her.
@ari3lz3pp
@ari3lz3pp 4 ай бұрын
TBH anyone who gets s*** from Hollywood is probably a better person than most.
@gregevans6044
@gregevans6044 4 ай бұрын
Here! Here!
@joanodom2104
@joanodom2104 Ай бұрын
I admired Brooks. Collins resembled her, perhaps, but she lacked all of the depth that Brooks had, in spades.
@Anggea
@Anggea 4 ай бұрын
When I was taking voice acting classes, someone in class commented on the fact that I could start crying easily and basically tried to say I was manipulative - I really appreciate the instructor coming to my defence and saying there’s also people that have had experiences in their life that makes them able to relate empathically to a character they’re playing from their own life experience that they draw on to bring out their own real emotions…. I had to talk to my therapist about that later because he hit right on a raw nerve.
@kathleencove
@kathleencove 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!! This was very healing information for me as well. I cry very easily, I’ve been like that since I was a little girl and haven’t entirely “grown out of it.” I also dealt with domestic abuse and alcoholism in the home when I was a very young kid, so I can definitely relate to that idea of being easily emotionally moved because of sensitivity, compassion, and a lot of experience with trauma
@Anggea
@Anggea 4 ай бұрын
@@kathleencove I’m sorry you’ve gone through the abuse you have, no one should experience that, children especially. Am happy I could share something to help you look at your empathy differently, I hope you’re now surrounded by a loving and supportive network of people that care about you. 💕💕
@kathleencove
@kathleencove 4 ай бұрын
@@Anggea Thank you so much for your compassion 🙏 I’m very fortunate that my father became sober after some years and I was able to repair my relationship with my parents as best I can, I know not many people who start out the same way I did end up where I have. But I’m grateful. And I’m looking forward to having a family of my own where we don’t repeat the pattern and there is a lot of peace and love 🙏♥️
@nancyk-ms3pc
@nancyk-ms3pc 4 ай бұрын
I've never heard of Clara Bow but thank you for telling her story. It was well worth it. Clara, I hope your ears a ringing and noticing you're alive, again.
@spetruck1
@spetruck1 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like your instructor tried to manipulate you into thinking you had a "problem" instead of a gift. ❤ it's crappy that mean words seem to stick with us longer than any kind ones do.
@daisyb1469
@daisyb1469 4 ай бұрын
Clara Bow was not a 'starlet'. She was a star. And even more so nowadays. She is already a legend.
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Daniela, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@Trouble_Bubble36
@Trouble_Bubble36 3 ай бұрын
@@Trevorjennings35 Creep
@GingeRenee
@GingeRenee 4 ай бұрын
I’m a mother and to hear about children being abused, I just can’t handle. It hurts my heart so bad.
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Renee, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@asmrtpop2676
@asmrtpop2676 3 ай бұрын
I was once a child, and to hear about children being abused, I just can’t handle. It hurts my heart so bad.
@mdb3956
@mdb3956 4 ай бұрын
This gets much of the story right but is still a little disappointing. The major trauma of Clara Bow's youth was being repeatedly raped by her father. She tried to bury it deep and was devoted to him--she gave him a job in LA and he used to try to leverage it to meet women ("I'm Clara Bow's father" he bragged.) but it still ate away at her. Paramount producer Bud Schulberg exploited her and denigrated her but the amazing talent still was there for anyone to see. She was a fabulously talented actress for those who had eyes to see--not everyone did. Even her talkies were great. The so-called "terrible" Brooklyn accent really wasn't as bad/strong as is reported here. (See the Saturday Night Kid or any or her early works, and you'll be a little bewildered by this supposed "received wisdom.") Louise Brooks was spot on, as usual, how could you look at the cinema of the late 1920s and overlook Clara Bow?
@AthyDuGard
@AthyDuGard 4 ай бұрын
Well said 👏🏾
@Arcana_Jester
@Arcana_Jester 4 ай бұрын
She did say that she was "mistreated" by her own father, but probably cut out the horrible truth of it because KZbin would eat the video. Because censorship. I thought she was referring to how others perceived Clara's accent back then rather than in general, but that's just me (shrug). It's comments like these that help fill in the blanks, though, and help get people into researching what really went down.
@ari3lz3pp
@ari3lz3pp 4 ай бұрын
It does make me apprehensive about watching her art though. Since it was all used by Hollywood no doubt to push more wreckless behavior. From traumatized girls. They still do this today
@a.alistair9087
@a.alistair9087 4 ай бұрын
It's not an accident she's depicted cuddling stuffed animals and dolls. The hair and makeup of the 20s often blurred both age and gender deliberately. Since childhood, she charmed for survival and attention. Predators/machines like Hollywood have a nose for traumatized young people that can be chewed up and spat out for profit.
@ara.may.sauvage
@ara.may.sauvage 4 ай бұрын
so she had cptsd and somehow managed to do all she did. locking herself away from the world makes total sense, everything must have been triggering. that poor woman, glad she is at peace now
@JuhiSRK
@JuhiSRK 4 ай бұрын
To paraphrase Norma Desmond, they didn't need words. They had faces. Clara is an astounding "face" actor. Every emotion in the scene is clearly visible on her face & in her eyes. She's so amazingly natural in her movements & expressions. Watching her films should be required of every wannabe actor. I didn't know she had such personal trauma. Back then, there was so little they could do medically for PTSD, anxiety & depression. I remember reading some of the terrible stories written about her, like she "entertained" a whole football team. I'm sorry she became so reclusive and ignored. She deserved much better.
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Melody, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@lillyblack5619
@lillyblack5619 3 ай бұрын
"Entertain" sounds a lot different from "being r*aped by" tbh
@jtbaying2312
@jtbaying2312 29 күн бұрын
Carroll Burnets skit about N.desmond sunset Strip redo.
@casimiralexander
@casimiralexander 4 ай бұрын
Clara was Marlon Brando’s favorite actress. He considered her a genius.
@heidibee501
@heidibee501 4 ай бұрын
Strangely l have known about Clara Bow for years and only came across Louise Brooks last year. I wonder how many people went into show biz as normal people and came out severely broken. And how many were attracted to it because they were damaged to begin with. Good on Louise Brooks for her lovely gesture in standing up for a fellow thespian.
@sarahholland2600
@sarahholland2600 4 ай бұрын
As the late George Michael said, "Its not something extra that makes you a star, it's something that's missing".
@baxtersmom279
@baxtersmom279 4 ай бұрын
Random aside: Louise Brooks is from my home state, Kansas, and she was friends with Vivian Vance in childhood.
@Camille_Anderson
@Camille_Anderson 3 ай бұрын
​@@sarahholland2600💯👏👏🌟
@nicolecampbell208
@nicolecampbell208 4 ай бұрын
Fun.... sort of.... fact....my grandmother told me folks called the lipstick style - it started as "The Clara Bow" but as a metric ton of people slinging mud at her - it was renamed 'cupid's bow "
@Randytherumbler
@Randytherumbler 4 ай бұрын
Betty Boop in the flesh.....from a certain Hollywood perspective. It saddens me that Hollywood certainly didn't treat women like decent human beings as the men. Far from it. Same tragic end as Judy Garland had suffered as she had been though from a major role in "The Wizard of Oz".
@lacyaubut6751
@lacyaubut6751 3 ай бұрын
@@Trevorjennings35weirdest bot award 🥇
@Aivottaja
@Aivottaja 20 күн бұрын
@@Randytherumbler As tragic as Clara Bow's life was, it doesn't translate to adults selling their bodies and souls for fame in HoIIywood. I honestly could not care less about that. I only care about the defenseless chiidren (have to obscure this word, because YT won't let me use it for some completely bizarre reason) who are SA'd there.
@HardFreckles
@HardFreckles 18 күн бұрын
Wow, I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing
@__alb2382
@__alb2382 14 күн бұрын
@@Aivottaja i seriously hate this take. let me guess… you’re a ‘mental health advocate’ too, right? seems like everyone is until they actually see the symptoms of it. this woman was not well, and this is because of what happened to her as a kid. do people stop mattering as soon as they turn 18 or something?
@louislamonte334
@louislamonte334 4 ай бұрын
Clara Bow was incredibly beautiful, talented, intelligent and sensitive. Hollywood really dumped on her and mistreated her. I wonder if she ever had anybody that truly understood her.
@pattimaeda6097
@pattimaeda6097 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful?????
@keeperofthe7keys1987
@keeperofthe7keys1987 3 ай бұрын
@@pattimaeda6097I personally don’t find her very attractive but beauty standards were different back then
@redefinedliving5974
@redefinedliving5974 19 күн бұрын
​​@@pattimaeda6097she was beautiful
@kimberlykaufhold2376
@kimberlykaufhold2376 4 ай бұрын
Guaranteed, more happened to Clara Bow as a child, young girl, and young starlet. A lot more than her mother putting a knife to her neck. And that further makes one think of the traumas her mother went threw in life.
@mkfloyd9131
@mkfloyd9131 4 ай бұрын
Through...
@Hawaiiansky11
@Hawaiiansky11 4 ай бұрын
I would imagine that meant that her mother didn't just 'lose' her other children as took their lives herself?
@theresaakins2317
@theresaakins2317 4 ай бұрын
​@@mkfloyd9131thank you.
@brendatomlinson
@brendatomlinson 4 ай бұрын
@@Hawaiiansky11with the high rate of child mortality then, it’s possible their deaths wouldn’t have been investigated. The fact that her doctor begged her to not have more children leaves me inclined to think the two children’s deaths were soon after birth, maybe even stillbirth. I’m just speculating obviously. I really want to read the biography Runnin’ Wild now. I’ve always been fascinated by her beauty but had no idea what a horrible life she had.
@Nylon_riot
@Nylon_riot 4 ай бұрын
​@@Hawaiiansky11 It was not uncommon to lose many children before modern medicine. You can see them lined up in cemeteries. One of the Rockefellers lost their whole family. In some of cases parents would just re-use a name and the child that survived gets to keep it.
@daryljackson3430
@daryljackson3430 4 ай бұрын
Shame on Hollywood for treating their meal tickets like crap and why did they treat women like prostitutes? They should have known she was struggling. Drugs were used to control her. I hope she is resting in peace! Thank you to Louise Brooks for standing up for Clara Bow the actress that deserved to be remembered for her work and not her mental illness that she fought through her life
@TheReader19
@TheReader19 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure anything's changed for women in Hollywood
@Ratnoseterry
@Ratnoseterry 4 ай бұрын
It's not did, it's do. Why do they. And because as far as Hollywood is concerned people are their prostitutes
@mileslong3904
@mileslong3904 4 ай бұрын
Who runs it are the ones to blame. All of them.
@GabrielleTollerson
@GabrielleTollerson 4 ай бұрын
why DID they? What do you mean DID?? They are WORSE with it now! And it's causing issues for women outside of hollywoood with the unrealistic beauty standards!
@GabrielleTollerson
@GabrielleTollerson 4 ай бұрын
@@TheReader19exactly
@michellewinkler3985
@michellewinkler3985 4 ай бұрын
I wish they could have included a clip or something with her "talkie" acting. Would have liked to hear her voice and her Brooklyn Accent!
@Carrybean
@Carrybean 3 ай бұрын
@@Trevorjennings35Are you going around the comment section responding with this same thing on random womens comments???
@telephilia
@telephilia 2 ай бұрын
The Brooklyn accent is hardly there. Actually she successfully transitioned to talkies.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 ай бұрын
@@telephilia Some years ago I found several of those early talkies on DVD from a collector and Clara's voice is fine and like you say I hardly can detect a Brooklyn accent.
@tracyjacoby2382
@tracyjacoby2382 4 ай бұрын
I am so very sorry for all the horrible abuses she endured! She was so very pretty, I love her look, hair color and her style. I feel sad she never found a person who treated her well. RIP Clara Bow.💕💕
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Tracy, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@mirrlamp
@mirrlamp 4 ай бұрын
I love Clara Bow and thanks to the internet Ive seen a good few of her films, both silent and talkie. David Sten wrote an excellent biography of her called Runnin' Wild which revealed her shocking childhood experiences and mental health struggles. Considering what she went through and the father she had, Clara did fantastically well as an actress and was Paramount's top grossing box office star in the late twenties and early thirties. Despite all that, Paramount did nothing to help their greatest asset when sound came in but she acquitted herself very well in my opinion. There was no unintelligible Brooklyn accent and her diction was perfectly clear but she was terrified of that microphone and her mental health collapsed. I'm glad she made enough money to move out of the spotlight and despite her struggles found some comfort in catching up on the education she missed in her youth and apparently became a voracious reader and letter writer.
@GrandmaSandy
@GrandmaSandy 4 ай бұрын
I think probably she was afraid she might even hurt her own children like her mother tried to do her. It is so sad that she had such a terrible terrible life and it never got better.
@reverbscherzo7850
@reverbscherzo7850 4 ай бұрын
Her doctors begged her to not have anymore children, but she didn't listen. WHAT?!?!? Did she have, in those days, some kind of choice?
@michellerutherford9551
@michellerutherford9551 4 ай бұрын
Oh you mean in in 2024,I know my daughter, granddaughter and niece haven't no , zero, nada !! Howdidwe go backwards 😢😢😢 OUR BODIES OUR CHOICE! 😢😢 RESTO PEACE CLARA BOW ❤❤
@AthyDuGard
@AthyDuGard 4 ай бұрын
Yes, the writers of these biographies seem quite naive.
@lettiegrant9447
@lettiegrant9447 4 ай бұрын
They had birth control back then. Birth control is nothing new.
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 4 ай бұрын
Well they did have rubber in those days and getting out before ejaculation have almost the same success rate as condoms if done properly although her husband probably was a piece of shit so yeah she probably did not.
@J383n
@J383n 4 ай бұрын
Abortions still existed then, even if they were illegal. Also in some cases at that time they could be legally done, especially on people deemed unfit to parent, which was the case here
@frederickcombs8661
@frederickcombs8661 4 ай бұрын
I read the biography on her and the abject poverty she grew up in is unimaginable today. She rose to world notoriety to obscurity within just a few years. Her last film, HOOPLA, is very good. Her final scene was the perfect send off for her short career in films.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 ай бұрын
Cool that you've seen it ! I have her next to last film "Call Her Savage" and it too was good. Yes her star was indeed short lived.
@missmaggie2620
@missmaggie2620 4 ай бұрын
Clara Bow had this luminous light when she was on screen. The only other actress that had that light was Monroe. Years later, Clara thought Monroe was special. Monroe did a whole photo shoot as Bow. Both had early childhood trauma, both had the strength to persevere....until what they were running from finally caught up to them. Hollywood could have cared less as long as they made money & behaved. Bow especially was treated like trash when the talkies came around. Hollywood chewed her up & spit her out.
@elsvaughn7959
@elsvaughn7959 4 ай бұрын
It's pretty shocking that you would choose 2 of the most overrated actresses to say that they, alone, had a "light" on screen..
@lisajan580
@lisajan580 3 ай бұрын
​@@elsvaughn7959they are great actresses,Marilyn Monroe is most beautiful woman of all times with Elizabeth Taylor
@lazyhomebody1356
@lazyhomebody1356 3 ай бұрын
I agree about Marilyn. When I was 15 and watching All About Eve for the first time, I jumped up and yelled, "Who is THAT?" when she appeared
@elsvaughn7959
@elsvaughn7959 3 ай бұрын
@@lazyhomebody1356 Yeah, but that's just because of how she appeared. And you do know that she had her entire face done. Her boobs done and her hair completely bleached so she wasn't even a real person
@Camille_Anderson
@Camille_Anderson 3 ай бұрын
​@@lisajan580Bardot is the most beautiful, imho. Every angle of her face & body is exquisite.
@carlycharlesworth1497
@carlycharlesworth1497 4 ай бұрын
My.goodness, she was really stunning! A total beauty! Her eyes were absolutely captivating! What a shame how she spent her final years, forgotten and almost completely alone. She deserves way better treatment from the Hollywood elite. Also, I didn't realise Gary Cooper.started in silent films at the.beginning of his career. He is my favourite leading man in old Hollywood. I think I will look up some of Clara Bow's films and watch them, it's good that she is immortalised forever in film. God bless you guys who organised, filmed, and edited these really interesting films. Have a great week!
@winifredherman4214
@winifredherman4214 4 ай бұрын
There’s a lot “ bigger “ things to know about Gary Cooper!
@darlenealessio7609
@darlenealessio7609 4 ай бұрын
Well said too many starlets were treated terribly Good there are documentary telling their story and SHAME ON HOLLYWOID, look.up.the Rita Moreno documentary another shame on Hollywood
@sharonnovickas7345
@sharonnovickas7345 4 ай бұрын
@@winifredherman4214lol. Hollywood women were very impressed with what Gary had. His counterpart today in that realm is Liam Neeson, though Neeson isn’t nearly as promiscuous.
@mkfloyd9131
@mkfloyd9131 4 ай бұрын
Maude Adams...
@sandrakeselisammons860
@sandrakeselisammons860 4 ай бұрын
​@@sharonnovickas7345Turns out he was a real pig. It was a drag hearing about it. I love his acting though.
@juliemichaud8990
@juliemichaud8990 4 ай бұрын
Both of my grandmothers spoke of Clara Bow admirably, stating she was able to push on even thru troubles...I hadn't known what they meant... Thank you for sharing this with us...
@garybrockwell2031
@garybrockwell2031 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for telling her story, so new generations can think fondly of the GREAT BEAUTY 😍🇬🇧🙏🎬🇺🇸💯
@TheIamtheoneandonly1
@TheIamtheoneandonly1 4 ай бұрын
Wow! She's one of those people with a real *timeless beauty* quality about her irrespective of the era in which she lived. She would have been a star today as well (imho) that is. Just saying.
@pixie3760
@pixie3760 4 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. She could have been a star in any era. What a tragic life
@4potslite169
@4potslite169 4 ай бұрын
I think this paints Bow’s mother as just another villain…my gut instinct tells me she was as much a victim and as abused by Bow’s father as Clara was. “She didn’t listen to her Dr” about having another child? When you’re married to an abusive man and there’s no such thing as birth control, then unwanted pregnancies are a given.
@ramblinrose8
@ramblinrose8 4 ай бұрын
why can't those that are victimized also victimize...I come from a long history of abused people...my mom pounded on me just like her husband and father did to her...just like my father and husband did to me...
@eshbena
@eshbena 4 ай бұрын
@@ramblinrose8 I hope that you get free from them all and live a life of safety and love.
@mariuspoppFM
@mariuspoppFM 4 ай бұрын
That's what she was
@lettiegrant9447
@lettiegrant9447 4 ай бұрын
They had birth control back then. The only women not allowed to have it was black women.
@jayp4033
@jayp4033 4 ай бұрын
No free passes for those who abuse children.
@mvo9856
@mvo9856 3 ай бұрын
As soon as she said, "Clara was renowned for being able to cry on cue," I recognized how tragic that is. I remember thinking I would be good at doing that back when I was in my deepest depression, because I always felt like crying.
@Swelte
@Swelte 4 ай бұрын
Well narrated and a wonderful story. She was great!
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 4 ай бұрын
My grandmother was a Flapper, I was completely shocked when I found out and saw the pictures. My grandfather was a big southern law man and even assisted the Posse who killed Bonnie and Clyde after it happened, he is in many of the famous photos, he helped with the crowd and bodies after it happened as he was friends with Sheriff Jordan and deputy Oakley. My grandparents could be a movie all by themselves.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 ай бұрын
The 1920s were a free for all. A lot of elder relatives often had guarded secrets they took to the grave.
@The_Spicy_Bajoran
@The_Spicy_Bajoran Ай бұрын
Oh, that’s so crazy! Bonnie Parker was my grandma’s cousin!!
@crptnite
@crptnite 4 ай бұрын
i cannot wrap my mind around any parent being envious of their child, especially a mother envying her daughter's beauty. i WANT my children to be as beautiful as i wish i had been... Isn't that the point? To generate better humans than the ones who came before them? Wanting your children to be worse than you so that you can feel better about yourself is a special kind of "crazy" 😶🤷🏽
@Padraigp
@Padraigp 4 ай бұрын
It's called narcissism
@grcleve7053
@grcleve7053 4 ай бұрын
True beauty comes from within. Granted I have 2 physically beautiful daughters but repeatedly tried to instill in them what true beauty is when I was raising them.
@jayp4033
@jayp4033 4 ай бұрын
​@@Padraigpthat's by far not the only reason.
@lorettascott5477
@lorettascott5477 3 ай бұрын
😢 Tell that to my mother 😭
@lovetolearn881
@lovetolearn881 3 ай бұрын
It's extremely common. I think at least half of the people I know have one parent that didn't want them/hates them or is extremely envious of them. As you get much older, people really start opening up about their actual life,not the facade they put on to survive. I think that's why a lot of people like Clara become reclusive in old age
@TubeHeiress
@TubeHeiress 4 ай бұрын
Clara Bow was a wonderfully emotive actress who possessed a wonderful personality and a zest for living.
@mindrolling24
@mindrolling24 3 ай бұрын
She really was so beautiful and expressive. And with her background, I think she did an admirable job at retaining her sanity.
@sigmawolfvlog
@sigmawolfvlog 4 ай бұрын
And somehow judging from what i know about her relationship with her parents. Ex, her father raped her and she still be kind to him, her mother wants to kill her and she refuse to see it as abuse... This sounds like a typical child who grew up of a narcissistic parents, where their intuitiin got destroyed so bad that they cannot tell if a person is good or bad, i am not talking about forgiving terrible person as we should to find our own inner peace, but we can forgive someone without letting them back in our life. "Boundaries" is the word that i am looking for. I think she is struggling to create a healthy boundaries. I feel really bad for her right now.
@reesedaniel5835
@reesedaniel5835 3 ай бұрын
She probably had Stockholm Syndrome.
@asmrtpop2676
@asmrtpop2676 3 ай бұрын
We do not have to forgive people for “inner peace”. I do not forgive my abusers. That would not bring me peace, that would be letting them get away with it. They are simply not forgiven and I will go on to live my life, without them allowed in it. Forgiveness should not be required for happiness.
@jemmajames6719
@jemmajames6719 3 ай бұрын
I thin the forgiving thing is complete nonsense for me it adds more guilt to a person and ruins there self esteem and confidence, to me you should never forgive, but you can step away from it in whatever way you chose.
@ElizabethMuellerNovelist
@ElizabethMuellerNovelist 3 ай бұрын
Forgiving is a very personal decision; it’s stigmatic in the sense that society expects you to remain in the toxic relationship in order to show your forgiveness. I say that doesn’t need to be the case: no one EVER needs to remain to prove ANYTHING ever to anyone. The choice to forgive is yours and yours alone without anyone else’s interference. Period! At least that’s my take on forgiveness. I forgive my abusers (my childhood and adulthood). I feel free and clean with my decision. But am I in said relationships? No. Not at all. To go back is to experience it all over again. I’m extremely selective of who I surround myself with now.
@Watchin-n-Learnin
@Watchin-n-Learnin 4 ай бұрын
Imagine the Weinstein, Cosby, R.Kelly-like treatment she most likely endured in old Hollywood...& then we judge them as crazy.
@lettiegrant9447
@lettiegrant9447 4 ай бұрын
It is crazy to allow yourself to be used and treated that way.
@user-ui8ch5wy5e
@user-ui8ch5wy5e 4 ай бұрын
​@@lettiegrant9447i don't think it is "allowed" in most cases. You sound naive.
@Watchin-n-Learnin
@Watchin-n-Learnin 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ui8ch5wy5e 🌻 Thank you, sincerely.
@ardenalexa94
@ardenalexa94 4 ай бұрын
@@lettiegrant9447 all three of those people are rapists…. Rape is against someone’s will. People don’t “allow” themselves to be raped.
@jenynz5334
@jenynz5334 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget the children... My brother was a child actor in 1970. Parents didn't have a right to be on set. He never told me what they did to him and he never will 🥀
@stevemitchell4241
@stevemitchell4241 4 ай бұрын
I would have liked to hear some of her dialogue in this piece.
@davidrubin8228
@davidrubin8228 4 ай бұрын
Very well done. Thank you. Unfortunately, Hollywood today STILL crucifies its acting community and does scant little to help those members that need help. If this woman had been alive today, I fully believe there would have been people OUTSIDE of the industry to have helped her.
@Hawaiiansky11
@Hawaiiansky11 4 ай бұрын
Honestly the more emotionally damaged they are, the more Hollywood elites prefer them, as they are much easier to manipulate and coerce into doing as their handlers demand.
@ruthanneluvsvacuuming6653
@ruthanneluvsvacuuming6653 4 ай бұрын
That’s society in general There’s way too many people in all walks of life who will never get the help they need
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 ай бұрын
Yes even in more modern times there are so many, say under 30 who were former child and teen stars who were cast out and later took their own lives.
@toricorbett4509
@toricorbett4509 13 күн бұрын
And now she’s memorialized forever in a Taylor Swift song.
@pancakesnailgurl3874
@pancakesnailgurl3874 4 ай бұрын
She’s so beautiful and so sad how her life went , she deserves so much credit ❤
@FrankieJazzFox
@FrankieJazzFox 4 ай бұрын
Her mother had zero autonomy over her own body. I'm fairly certain she couldn't easily choose to NOT become pregnant!!
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Frankie, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@kellyshomemadekitchen
@kellyshomemadekitchen 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this video, I had no idea Clara Bow lived such a heartbreaking life….so very sad. 😓
@k_dellz
@k_dellz 26 күн бұрын
You look like Clara Bow You look like Stevie Nicks You look like Taylor Swift
@littleblackpistol
@littleblackpistol 4 ай бұрын
Margot' Robbie's character in Babylon is clearly heavily based on Bow, down to the ability to cry on demand, and the issues with her seedy father (which for some reason you omitted here) and the mother in an institution.
@cecileroy557
@cecileroy557 4 ай бұрын
She was very beautiful! What a crazy, sad life.
@riverbender9898
@riverbender9898 4 ай бұрын
Sad ending for an amazing woman. Thank you.
@nancyconca9892
@nancyconca9892 4 ай бұрын
What a sad tragic life despite achieving her dream of becoming a big Hollywood star 🥲 May she Rest in Peace 🪦 🙏🥲
@Katseye102
@Katseye102 4 ай бұрын
She never really had a chance, from the beginning did she? She was a beautiful lady and did what she could to survive in this sometimes cruel world. She deserves all the accolades they can give her. RIP Clara, you were loved and not forgotten. 🕊️🕊️
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Catherine, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@Katseye102
@Katseye102 3 ай бұрын
Yes I am safe from Covid and I’m ok.
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
@@Katseye102 That’s good to know you’re fine😇. Hope you’re having a nice and a wonderful day today??
@Katseye102
@Katseye102 3 ай бұрын
Going to the Foodbank and it’s raining….a lot
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
@@Katseye102 Okay.. If I may ask dear, where are you from??
@baylorsailor
@baylorsailor 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know about Louise Brooks standing up for her in the end. That is amazing. I love both stars.
@exosproudmamabear558
@exosproudmamabear558 4 ай бұрын
Well despite all this it is incredible sh pushed through 60's and was agreed to get institutionalized twice. I had a serious side effects due to antipsychotic usage recently and doctor asked me if I wanted to stay for a few days in mental hospital for observation and adjusting medicinal treatment. I chickened out since I know how that place were working from my experience in there as a medicine student. Mental hospitals are terrible places and they overuse drugs way too heavily. I couldnt take the risk and couldnt trust my colleagues.
@marcietorrence5361
@marcietorrence5361 4 ай бұрын
Clara Bow dancing in this clip, is exactly like Betty Boop, the fluid movements of her arms!
@miapdx503
@miapdx503 4 ай бұрын
Yes, she wasn't part of the inspiration for Betty, she was THE inspiration.
@g.watkins9091
@g.watkins9091 4 ай бұрын
Actually many believe Esther Jones was the uncredited inspiration. Also, Helen Kane sued because she thought the character was too much like herself and had stolen her “boo boop be doo”
@LetsPatchItUp
@LetsPatchItUp 4 ай бұрын
​@@miapdx503 .... Weeeeeelllllllll, before declaring she WAS the inspiration, please remember she was a starlet of her TIME. Like any era, the starlets did similar "Big eyes and chirrup lips" looks, similarly dressed, haircuts, styles and dances. So look also at Helen Kane who sued for claims on Betty Boop. Then there's Baby Esther who looked, danced, and sounded exactly like Betty, and used boopboopdeboop regularly in her act. She seems to be the best example of who Betty may have been designed after IF Betty was designed after only a single starlet.
@jessrosefawkes2721
@jessrosefawkes2721 4 ай бұрын
@@miapdx503I never knew that. Thank you for the comment xx
@f.l3450
@f.l3450 3 ай бұрын
@@g.watkins9091yes, it was Esther her hairstyle and dance moves.
@ladyhartofficial
@ladyhartofficial 4 ай бұрын
So sad to hear about her life 😢 Clara was an iconic actress, and that beautiful crystal tears shot of her by Man Ray I feel now has so much more meaning now I know more about her past. She lives on in our hearts and on film ❤
@roseroserose1108
@roseroserose1108 15 күн бұрын
I read it was a mannequin....
@blurryface98
@blurryface98 4 ай бұрын
I am convinced that Natasha Lyonne is Clara Bow reincarnated. They have to be related somehow because they look nearly identical! If they make a movie about her life, Natasha must play the lead for sure.
@Fuzzmo147
@Fuzzmo147 4 ай бұрын
YesssS!
@Khaleesi_Jack
@Khaleesi_Jack 4 ай бұрын
I see it most in the eyes, but YES.
@ellendunn559
@ellendunn559 4 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who sees Helena Bonham-Carter in Bow’s face?
@meilingflesa8140
@meilingflesa8140 4 ай бұрын
I do
@ramirezannette0
@ramirezannette0 4 ай бұрын
​@@meilingflesa8140ummm, Clara was waay prettier
@meilingflesa8140
@meilingflesa8140 4 ай бұрын
@@ramirezannette0 l agree
@joybarker7906
@joybarker7906 3 ай бұрын
​@ramirezannette0 Ummm, it's not a contest, Helena is gorgeous as well. They are very different types of actresses, and both very successfully embraced their roles.
@reesedaniel5835
@reesedaniel5835 3 ай бұрын
Bonham-Carter crossed with Cyndi Lauper
@tinalongano8849
@tinalongano8849 4 ай бұрын
Such a talent, and beauty. I hope her soul is resting in peace. 💫👼😇✝️
@ingridfitz5677
@ingridfitz5677 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I’ve heard of Clara Bow but did not know her story. It is so sad how people with such talent and sparkle that they give to us to enjoy get thrown away and forgotten.
@elkementil645
@elkementil645 4 ай бұрын
Eine Stummfilmikone...mit einer wohl einmaligen Bühnenpräsenz!! ..Aber auch ein vom Schicksal gezeichneter Mensch..die die Traumata ihrer Kindheit niemals wirklich überwunden hat!! Danke fürs hochladen, Elke aus Deutschland ❤
@melissaford717
@melissaford717 4 ай бұрын
Oh, my favorite 'IT' girl from my 'gray' films! That's what my daughter called b & w movies when she was a child.
@taralovesdiamondart
@taralovesdiamondart 21 күн бұрын
Same.
@CapAnson12345
@CapAnson12345 3 ай бұрын
She would be the biggest star in the world today. She was the total package as an actress.
@safiremorningstar
@safiremorningstar 4 ай бұрын
I have heard of clara bow and there's a lot left out from what you said, but her becoming a recluse/shadow is not too surprising, considering the many traumatic experiences at a very early age it is not too surprising when given the opportunity by her husband to close herself away she did it avoided a messy divorce, it was probably a very ideal situation for him at least.
@LetsPatchItUp
@LetsPatchItUp 4 ай бұрын
I can't agree more. After too much happened in my life, I never felt more safe than when I was institutionalized. I imagine since the word sanitarium was used that it wasn't one of those horrid places for the unwanted that existed with nothing but abuse. back then there were also these peaceful places usually called sanitariums that were more like rooms in mansions with gardens for people to hide away from the world. At least I hope that's what she experienced after her difficult and turbulent life.
@Sunshineonmymind714
@Sunshineonmymind714 3 ай бұрын
This is so crazy, I clicked on this video to listen to in the background this morning while I clean, heard the name Clara Bow and realized that that I recognized her name from somewhere… this past Saturday I ate breakfast at a place with a movie poster with her name on it from 1931. I never saw her face before writing this comment…she was a lovely lady that’s for sure. I hope her soul is at peace now❤
@GrandmaSandy
@GrandmaSandy 4 ай бұрын
My gosh she was so pretty was she not so sad. She had such a sad life. It only says one thing young children always had a hard time sometimes with their parents.
@Neurospicy_potato
@Neurospicy_potato 4 ай бұрын
A classic borderline personality formed by childhood trauma.
@CaraHTheRealCie
@CaraHTheRealCie 3 ай бұрын
"Borderline personality disorder" is the modern hysterical neurosis. The label is overwhelmingly applied to girls and women. I'm old enough to have had both labels applied to me. I was in my fifties before I realized what I was really struggling with was complex PTSD from years of abuse. I'd like to see the "borderline personality disorder" label go the way of "hysterical neurotic." Everyone who has this label applied to them has a history of trauma.
@jenynz5334
@jenynz5334 3 ай бұрын
​@@CaraHTheRealCie Yes, many BPD people have CPTSD. I also don't like how we're all lumped together when there are 4 types. And then there are those who confuse it with NPD 😤
@kimrizzo7098
@kimrizzo7098 3 ай бұрын
​@CaraHTheRealCie yup. I was correctly diagnosed cptsd. I know I'm autistic. I have a gene, my kid shares it. Its proven. Moved areas, went for treatment, they said bipolar from childhood trauma. Was an asshole about it as well. Im not spilling my guts on the first phone appointment what the hell. I diagnosed him as a narcicistic sociopath. I wonder which disgnosis was correct. ❤ obviously my cptsd and him being an clinical asshole/tank personality is pretty accurate, though! We have paid healh care in Canada but its full of beurocracy and egotistical assholes. :/😢
@Cosmic-Cat.
@Cosmic-Cat. 3 ай бұрын
​@@Othersideofthespectrum Exactly. Those pesky symptoms need to be "dealt with" in the eyes of the medical profession. Imagine actually looking into the life of the patient leading up to the diagnosis. Can't they see a pattern for heaven's sake? More convenient to just ply the person with meds - especially as there are kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies. The more their meds are prescribed, the more perks ($$$) the doctors are entitled to.
@pariahthistledowne3934
@pariahthistledowne3934 4 ай бұрын
Having grown up in Pasadena, i was rather steeped in Old Hollywood, as Pasadena was the main Fashionable Suburb in the early days. My first wife grew up in a gorgeous Spanish Colonial mansion at the top of Hill Street. My grandma loved Cinema, so i heard about the old stars, even though they were from before her time. Clara Bow was Great, and a full on Cutiepie....but that place is Evil....and few survive it Spiritually intact, no matter what baggage they bring to Hollywood. Thanks for the bit of Bio!
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 ай бұрын
I had relatives in Hollywood and started visiting them in 1966 and in later years. A number of those from the silent era were still alive and of course many of the Hollywood haunts and hangouts were still there. It gave me a glimpse of how it was. The last time I was there was in 1989 and I'll never set foot there again. Nothing left of the old town and most movie makers have long since fled.
@smelis6917
@smelis6917 27 күн бұрын
Me coming here after TTPD and listening to Taylor’s song “Clara Bow” multiple times: she must’ve known Clara’s whole tragic story writing the song, wow… 💔 🎵 only when your girlish glow, flickers just so, do they let you know 🎵 😢💔 (And omg, everything’s making sense now, the pieces are falling into place for me: the whole theme and aesthetic of TTPD, is it a Clara Bow tribute? I’m thinking about all the lyrics of institutions and mental hospitals and hospitals in general and being mentally ill/“losing one’s mind” and all the old timey (looking) stuff with the black and white. Any Swifties here wanna discuss this..? Am I on to something or am I crazy here? 😂🖤🤍)
@JJNoire
@JJNoire 4 ай бұрын
I have been a Clara Bow fan for years and even wrote (by request) a couple of songs in the 1980’s for a musical proposed by several SF Bay Area music stars. Many of her films were available in the 1990’s on VHS tapes from Grapevine Video in Texas. I’ve dubbed those VHS’s onto DVD’s so I can continue to watch them. David Stenn’s bio book on Clara Bow “Running Wild” us good.
@jayp4033
@jayp4033 4 ай бұрын
Wow! What an accolade!😍
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 ай бұрын
Same here as well as obtaining some from collectors. I was always fascinated by the transition to sound period of 1929-30. Some of those actors died early in the sound era so it's nice to hear them speak.
@user-cu8mt8sw7l
@user-cu8mt8sw7l 4 ай бұрын
A wonderful kind women talented a warrior who kept fighting to the end
@chrisfleming8908
@chrisfleming8908 4 ай бұрын
Rip Clara Bow your an angel in heaven now away from all the evil down here 🙏 ❤🎉
@lunarbaby3
@lunarbaby3 4 ай бұрын
I love Clara Bow, I first heard about her I’d say prob 2006.. I was researching the Black Dahlia and there was this clip about this wonderful but forgotten Hollywood actress 😢. Glad to see her getting her dues 🎉 ❤
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Pretty, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@fredrikalarsson3962
@fredrikalarsson3962 4 ай бұрын
Her eyes was so beautiful, so sad but beautiful
@bethparker1500
@bethparker1500 4 ай бұрын
So the movie BABYLON with Brad Pitt was based on her.
@santinamarie4699
@santinamarie4699 4 ай бұрын
She did a talking with Frederick March in the early thirties that I absolutely loved I fell in love with her in that movie
@looseflyingtoughts
@looseflyingtoughts 27 күн бұрын
i like to thank Taylor for once again sparkling interest in the world in Clara's history. As a lot of womans that came after Clara, she was an icon that hollywood enjoyed until she was drained and then tried to erase her, but 2 iconic woman like Clara didnt let them.
@ConsciousConversations
@ConsciousConversations 4 ай бұрын
This is a really great story/biography in such a quick bit of content. Thanks for making it.
@Da3Hound
@Da3Hound 4 ай бұрын
Could have sworn Esther Jones was the inspiration and blueprint to the creation of Betty Boop
@c.williams3480
@c.williams3480 4 ай бұрын
Correct!
@AgTheFreeborn
@AgTheFreeborn 2 ай бұрын
I believe there was probably more than one influence (with some being significantly more influential)
@Em_Elizabeth
@Em_Elizabeth 4 күн бұрын
Yes, Esther's singing style especially
@user-bf2cv9xo7x
@user-bf2cv9xo7x 4 ай бұрын
It. 1927 silent film. Plot so complicated I became kind of dizzy trying to read the synopsis. Later, unrelated films used the same title - because you can't copyright titles.
@WeRNthisToGetHer
@WeRNthisToGetHer 4 ай бұрын
This is why it's so important to get help and deal with your trauma or it will deal with you. There's no getting away from it. I'd rather tackle it now than let it win by taking me down later when I am too weak to overcome it.
@cheryljohnson866
@cheryljohnson866 4 ай бұрын
Great video with good pics, films and narration. Thank you!
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Cheryl, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@Minwoman
@Minwoman 4 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Well presented, very factual. Clara Bow is still one of my favorites!
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Patricia, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@dzxn3728
@dzxn3728 4 ай бұрын
"There was a woman from the ghetto who made funny faces, just like Clara Bow...how was I to know that she would wear the sane cologne as u & giggle the sane giggle that u do. Whenever I would a8vt a fool, a fool with a condition of the heart" PRINCE 1985❤
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Pretty, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@brookemckinley5709
@brookemckinley5709 Ай бұрын
Yup I’m here after Taylor’s song. Anybody else? 😂
@peggywalker4081
@peggywalker4081 4 ай бұрын
I loved this! Thank you for bringing her back to life through your video. Today she was thought about and remembered. 💙
@GrandmaSandy
@GrandmaSandy 4 ай бұрын
Loved it, and I watched it from the beginning to the very very end. Thanks so much for all the great insight and information.
@WowJustWow37
@WowJustWow37 4 ай бұрын
Louise Brooks is a real one for that! Love them both very much. Great video ❤
@danehlers9989
@danehlers9989 4 ай бұрын
Well this was a very welcomed video. A nice change for me as I am inundated with a lot of stuff thats so awful and the use of AI voiced narration it's great to hear a real voice tell a real story and annunciate the names and places correctly. You did a great job here. Thanks for uploading. 👍❤
@Toastcat890
@Toastcat890 4 ай бұрын
Poor dear she couldn't get away from her demons it's no telling what else her mother did she took to her grave.
@jsully8076
@jsully8076 4 ай бұрын
My God this is absolutely heartbreaking. This poor woman didn't stand a chance and the deck was stacked against her from the beginning. Absolutely hate Hollywood, what a disgusting industry.
@time4807
@time4807 4 ай бұрын
Its been like that from day one. Cesspool of degens.
@PSA3377
@PSA3377 4 ай бұрын
Looks like once again the comment section tells her REAL stoty 😢😢😢😢How tragic . Now I understand how she coyld cry on demand and was nervous acting and high strung . RIP sweet Clara ❤
@gaylescovel7308
@gaylescovel7308 4 ай бұрын
Alot of trueth in that statement you made. 😔
@ZalthorAndNoggin
@ZalthorAndNoggin 4 ай бұрын
Excellent expose of one of the most charismatic early stars of Hollywood. Thank you for all your careful research and presentation of what is a superb, well balanced account and video.
@moonlightdancer5495
@moonlightdancer5495 4 ай бұрын
Such stunning lady. I would love to see her life in a biopic. Protrade actually. But who would be perfect to play her
@TheMMFamily9
@TheMMFamily9 3 ай бұрын
This was great , thank you 😊❤
@loftus4453
@loftus4453 4 ай бұрын
What a great video! Wow. What a sad story.😊
@loritracy1385
@loritracy1385 4 ай бұрын
You don't say anything about her time alone. Being with people may have been triggering. So she may have found contentment in those last years reading or with other artistic endeavors.
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Lori, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@MeretSeger
@MeretSeger 4 ай бұрын
PTSD before it was treated. Tragic. Possible SA too. Brooks suffered SA too. She understood.
@kathrynmcelroy5658
@kathrynmcelroy5658 4 ай бұрын
I think most people in this world are suffering more and more in this society. It seems we had some good order for awhile but now all that is going away.
@chrissyandjoey28
@chrissyandjoey28 3 ай бұрын
Excellent short but knowledgeable and kept me interested the entire time loved it ❤
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
Hello Chrissy, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??
@chrissyandjoey28
@chrissyandjoey28 3 ай бұрын
@@Trevorjennings35 Hello Trevor! I hope you and your family is safe as well! Especially cancer!
@Trevorjennings35
@Trevorjennings35 3 ай бұрын
@@chrissyandjoey28 I am fine Chrissy😊. Hope you’re having a nice and a wonderful day today??
@mleecthulhu
@mleecthulhu 4 ай бұрын
Such sadness in her eyes 😢
@debbie2846
@debbie2846 4 ай бұрын
I first heard about her many yrs ago from my parents who grew up during her time. They told me she was the "it girl"
@izzy6455
@izzy6455 3 ай бұрын
How dare you assume that Clara's mother 'didn't listen when told not to have a child! This was 1905. Women had little choice. The pill wasn't availible til 1960s so until then all contraception relied upon the man complying. Clara's father was abusive so we don't even know if it was a consensual experience concieving Clara.
@brianwillerton8659
@brianwillerton8659 4 ай бұрын
Awesome and fascinating babe, that Clara Bow.
@maggiemontgomery8400
@maggiemontgomery8400 4 ай бұрын
What happened to her children?
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was wondering.
@Skyebright1
@Skyebright1 4 ай бұрын
I guess they were raised by their father, maybe they visited her?
@Muirmaiden
@Muirmaiden 2 ай бұрын
​@@Skyebright1Her sons remained close to her until her death
@SankaCofee422
@SankaCofee422 4 ай бұрын
I adore Hollywood pop culture but lord have mercy were they awful! I watched a short video the other day of how horribly and how quickly the Hollywood machine churned out Judy garland, how rotten something must be to break someone so great so quickly.