Hollywood Studios Vow to Protect Cry Baby Actors From 'Toxic Fans'

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[@Hexecutable]

"Dont like it dont watch it!" My pleasure!

[@I_dont_understand_25]

Fans are "out for blood" because they won't spend money on shows / movies they dont like . I remember when people had the freedom to like or dislike anything they chose.... those were the days

[@Pyrate_Of_Las_Vegas]

Proud Lifetime Member of the "Toxic Fandom" since 2010

[@coreyengwall6779]

If the actors, producers, directors, etc, can’t handle people who don’t like their work, they are in a wrong business.

[@SarcasticPossum]

They are emotionally children.

[@MikeInOregon]

Why do you think they want to make it legal to “go on dates” with kids?

[@SarcasticPossum]

@@MikeInOregon I was referring to their mental fortitude n maturity.

[@MikeInOregon]

@@SarcasticPossum so was I.

[@SarcasticPossum]

@@MikeInOregon Lol

[@brettyates7054]

That speech from the Sweet Baby Inc. woman was eye opening. Yes she spoke for her organisation but she was expressing an ideology. She revealed that they KNOW their ideas are unprofitable and unpopular, they’re no longer arguing that they are, they’re arguing it’s a direction they HAVE to go and the industries need to change into propaganda engines to protect what they’re doing, audience and profit be damned.

[@RP-hn1qc]

Eventually someone's gonna have the 🥜s to finally have wokism legally declared an official religion granting protections and restrictions. 😂The later more important as fed pushing it violates separation of church and state.

[@Dragblacker]

And in their minds, it's perfectly logical. After all, "abolition wasn't a popular idea at the time, nor feminism nor equality" nor whatever else. They're absolutely convinced of their moral certitude, that they're "fighting the good fight".

[@KapitalP73]

You nailed it. Every other Fortune 500 company has policies in place that'll land you in front of HR if you go on your personal social media and bash its customer base and source of revenue. Grounds for dismissal, no questions asked.

[@TheColonelKlink]

Throughout history the well deserved reputation of actors has been one of sleazy, dimwitted and poorly educated narcissists you would never allow into your home. History got it right.

[@napoleonfeanor]

That's not really true. The Roman aristocratic families (maybe rather Clans), from whom the vast majority of still preserved Roman literature corpus was written (or rather dictated) saw them as a negative, contrary to traditional virtues (vir = man), the Mos Maiorum. There was also a big part of class thinking as simple plays were popular entertainment with the plebs and it grew generally bigger with Greek influence. Greek view on actors varied extremely from polis to polis and also with time. Plays about morality were also commonly used as a kind of mass pedagogy. It also depends how you define actor and play. Since the earliest direct ancestor of the Greek script (before the BA collapse lead to the downfall of most Bronze Age civilisations, there had already been written Greek in another script but they became illiterate for some generations after the collapse), we have epics like those most famous of Homer, who finally wrote his epics down as a help for others to learn it. They were not read but passionately told by those poets, who had to know them by heart but also had to ad-hoc tell epic prose about every topic the patron and his guests desired. For that they learned various kinds of rhetoric building blocks creating tension, awe and whatever else was desired. If you ever read his two big epics, you will still find many such building blocks getting repeated, sometimes word for word. However, they were obviously not performed on a single day and masters in the profession like Homer knew the right balance and all the rhetoric tricks. I could go further into the Middle Ages and Renaissance but I still need to do chores.

[@n.d.m.515]

​@@napoleonfeanorway to say a lot of histrionics without actually discussing the idea that the actors were always generally disliked.

[@MyLibertyTV]

Imagine any other industry treating customers like this. Imagine a restaurant serving up rotten food and then blaming their customers for not liking it.

[@0giwan]

I've made a similar statement. I want a PB&J sandwich, and they give me a shit sandwich and are outraged that I'm pissed.

[@zakyrath]

I've seen them on hell's kitchen they go broke

[@robchuk4136]

But the food is so diverse and I see myself in these flavors! How could you not like it???

[@rpmgrlca]

Propaganda is not art. Maybe someday they'll learn that.

[@gloriathomas3245]

So what about the Top Gun movies then which are essentially propaganda?

[@n.d.m.515]

​@@gloriathomas3245I take it you are not a fan of the movie. Otherwise you would know why it is so good. Just because something is shown in a positive light doesn't make it propaganda.

[@chikitabowow]

Hollywood will do literally *_anything_* instead of making good movies and TV-shows

[@ToesToJesus]

Yeah...I genuinely am Joker laughing at watching Hollywood implode...Joker, get it?

[@Livitt351]

It's pronounced choke hr😅

[@ToesToJesus]

@@Livitt351 Haahaaahaaa! Good one!

[@Nightbreed24]

What??? I volunteer if I can call them slurs! I'm Hungarian, we can swear for minutes without repeating ourselves and I can speak English. :D

[@titsandrayguns2572]

Austrians are more inventive with their slurs but tend to repaet. Hungarian slurs are less inventive but don’t repeat. Maybe it’s time to put the empire back together for the ultimate in clever slurs?😂😂

[@Livitt351]

We don't have to say anything, just don't give them money

[@liilalemuri2329]

Awww Vara with her golden hairs. 🥰

[@billypullin9206]

I am happy to get the honest reviews because with the cost of taking my family to a movie, it helps make a better decision to spend our money. A night at the movies at these newer theaters can cost a couple hundred dollars for a family of four. In the 90’s we just waited for bad movies to hit the video store shelves and you could rent it for cheap.

[@jodi2847]

Here's what a war against the public looks like: Studio makes product they know public will reject. Public rejects it. Millions lost. Studio whines. Studio makes product...

[@PaperBanjo64]

Studio knows they can just take ESG money instead of actually making a good movie, but eventually Larry Ratfink has got to run out of money...

[@oso1248]

Waging war on fandoms is probably the weirdest concept, where even if they win they lose. They can call me whatever names they want because my disinterest in their product can last longer than their company can remain solvent.

[@MrManueleh]

I saw Megalopolis. It is a movie about a realestate mogol trying to make new rome great again. His enemies use character assasination, law fare and an actual assasination atempt. The movie is surrealistic and abstract which makes it hard to follow.

[@robadamson1]

Imagine making a diss track attacking the people you want to watch a marginal show and then feign surprise and sorrow when those people stay away in droves and laugh at your misfortune.

[@gunthergoettlicher506]

We have a whole new generation of celebrities that grew up believing they were special. Everyone told them how great they were and how they could do anything. What was forgotten is to make yourself special. To be special, you have to be exceptional. What stands out in an exceptional way. Not your incredulous attitude, not your overbearing personality, the pretend social warrior shit. You have to be better and stand out based on what you can do that others can't. Just because you think you deserve it doesn't mean you do. Just because the people around you love you doesn't mean others will.

[@cherylM.905]

They’re just learning cause and effect.. 🔥Hollowood🔥

[@Jeremiah_Johnson139]

"Toxic fandom" 'getting in the way of us pushing our narrative!'

[@ninjaartist1235]

Hollywood can make this so much easier on themselves is they didnt suck.

[@garybicknell2135]

When you look at an IP as only a built in audience # and feel entitled to gut and replace everything about the IP to push your message you will get backlash. When you lean into tropes the audience is tired of you will get backlash. These are known quantities that any competent executive should anticipate and presumably avoid or at least be judicious about but instead it is the fans that are toxic for pointing out they've done the things the audience hates.

[@treasonwhat4]

At the 2:48 mark when you imitate Amandla......I love the moments you can type "lol" and it be true.

[@TheRoundtableSportsPodcast]

Don't watch Agatha or acolyte and then watch penguin or Constantine. Really makes you wonder what they could have given us with that money

[@SirCarcass]

Whenever they talk about these focus groups, remember all of the "superfans" that came out in support of Rings of Power, The Wheel of Time, The Acolyte, etc.

[@josephbrown9685]

There is no need for us to continue to try explain why we don’t like something. All they will ever perceive it as is bigotry. It takes zero effort not to watch something, so keep doing what you’re doing, Hollywood, and you’ll keep circling the drain faster and faster.

[@lance134679]

Wow, studios actually treat their actors like children. Children that never learned "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me".

[@clutch1141]

I have no desire or intent to be a threat to anyone. I haven't given disney a penny of my money or a minute of my viewership since force awakens. Is that what they consider a threat

[@Yea_I_Got_Nothing]

"Toxic fandom " is little more than a refection of "toxic hollowwoke".

[@Alteringrealitystudios]

Toxic fandom, is a moronic claim.

[@dsamh]

It's funny because they write such meandering, boring and 'toxic' plotlines.

[@maxstone3779]

In theory the concept is a good one to teach actors. They have coaches for interviews and media appearances. Disney even encourages the young actors to date amoung fellow Disney actors to make sure the partner doesnt start leaking stuff. So studios should be helping actors with social media. They would be stupid not to. But yeah, Hollywood is a wasteland that refuses to see that its dead.

[@nicodemous52]

Personally, if I ran a studio it would be in the my contacts that if you are in one of my moves. You don't use social media at all. Not until like a week after the movie comes out. People don't worship celebrities like they once did. Or perhaps they do, just not the "mainstream". And because people don't just worship Hollywood celebs like they once did your mouth can't do anything but hurt us. It can leave is at net neutral at the very best. So, yeah, mouth shut outside of official promos

[@Scott_King101]

Remember when Hollywood was hands off with the critical ecosystem and the press and generally ignored bad publicity because “Bad publicity is still publicity”. When we knew nothing about actors and filmmakers except whatever project they were a part of? And being a crybaby bitch was just unbankable. I miss those days

[@robchuk4136]

The one I got a kick out of was Niel Druckmann convincing HBO to give Kaitlyn Dever more security for The Last Of Us Season 2. Just in case of the "toxicity surrounding the character." Literally no one has said or done anything to her, (or would have) but by preemptively setting up that narrative in people's minds, they are acting in bad faith way more than the fans they are villainizing.

[@violetviolent7980]

Well, they're gonna say fan's are toxic regardless, if everyone completely ignores, said nothing about this program, so it's damned if you do, damned if you don't,...nothing will appease a society of narcs.

[@Strobobel]

They used to call this PR training. Social media made us know who these people really are

[@DataToTheZero]

The best part is that they paid billions of dollars to buy the IP because of the fandoms attached to them. Then they decide that the fandoms that they just bought aren't the target audience. Then they call them toxic. It's like a man complaining that his used F-40 ferrari doesn't blew up because apparently you can't run it on rubbing alcohol.

[@Attmay]

Yet they did little to nothing to protect child and teen actors from SA while the union looked the other way at every turn.

[@nobodyshome6792]

Folks need to stop insulting and or attacking their CUSTOMERS.

[@SuperOmnicronsj44]

How do you go to "war" with the customers paying for your entertainment? Weird.

[@violetviolent7980]

I guess to go every person who don't agree with their ideology cesspool, and give a stern talking to..lol.

[@KatallinaVT]

It's actually really simple: stop doing remakes. Period.

[@nicodemous52]

Muhahahahahahah! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good, good. Now you too know fear. Now you too know what it is to bleed.

[@Disinterested1]

lool bring on the APATHY what they want is silence so give it to them!!! every park and every cash register! we stopped thinking you would ever listen so now time for something else!

[@johnreilly8672]

How arrogant do you have to be to blame fans for not liking your content? Fantasy world !

[@Rizzo2185]

But who’s gonna protect the fans from them?!

[@lance134679]

I'm part of the problem. I assume every new show or movie is going to be bad. Every once in a while, I'm pleasantly surprised. Recently, I saw The Garfield Movie and thought it was really good. Didn't expect that.

[@willybe6427]

Okay class, now when someone calls you names on the big scary internet you either… A. Bring up climate change and Donald Trump completely out of context B. Get them fired, ruin their livelihood, turn their family against them C. Call them the worst things known to human existence D. Ignore them like a normal human being would

[@Cycstorm]

Vara has a chsnnel with almost 4k videos on it and every one is negative. Every. Single. One. Not a single positive thing to say about a video game, or a movie, or a tv show she likes. But somehow everyone else is the problem. Everyone else has a chip on their shoulder. Pfft! Be serious.

[@Willie_Jones76]

Entertainment is supposed to be for entertaining,actors and celebrities should stick to be entertainment,not propaganda, period!😒🙄😮‍💨

[@matthewdeancole]

If they made a Mad Max film tomorrow with Mel Gibson, people would go. Think Old Man Max like Old Man Logan. Rings of Power lost 60% of their viewers by the end of season one.

[@TriScaleCreations]

Honestly, a social media boot camp for celebrities isn't a bad idea, so long as it's not pushing political messaging.

[@HammerHeart3229]

Toxic Fans = Fans that are passionate about something who won't mindlessly consume the slop that is fed to them and will call you out on your shit content. 8:12 The Hobbit movies weren't great but Peter Jackson didn't make those movies to push an agenda, disrespect the source material or to deliberately antagonize the audience. He made those movies out of love for the source of material even if the execution wasn't great.

[@keithstimpyys3497]

They just don't like that.We have power over our wallet's

[@tysonk-t2130]

I used to think Mary wasn’t a fair talker but Brett is definitely worse. He rarely lets Mary complete a sentence.

[@KatallinaVT]

Y'know, I still haven't watched the Hobbit films all these years later. Should fix that someday.

[@gobbo1917]

The Hobbit movies are fun, so are the prequels, at least certain aspects of them. Generally I think people are too quick to shun stuff they don't outright agree with fully, right off the bat. But this is not a case of toxic fandoms, this is a case of people getting lied to, of customers being lied to.

[@bato2699]

They do it so they believe you do it. They judge you by their own standards. Its like when Hillary clinton says trump. Cheeted because she did it and lost. So he must have cheeted if he won. Thats what she was trying to do. 😂😂 Thats why she soo angry

[@rodgerlang884]

As usual a few really loud, horrible people are what are being used to exemplify the rest of us and give excuses to these studios for why projects are failing.

[@MrManueleh]

I once was on a heavy metal discussion. Some people started to hate on Lady Gaga. Just to be contrary I decided to defend her. I think I did a better job of defending her because I didn't care. Nothing they said about her could piss me off so I kept on track.

[@lance134679]

If KZbinrs had so much influence, Barbie wouldn't have made billions of dollars or whatever. All the channels I watch were saying it would suck and did suck.

[@gumdeo]

Celebrities should not be on social media anyway.

[@PaperBanjo64]

Or endorse presidential candidates

[@Shenmue58]

But how will they protect them from project cancellation and themselves from not making money?

[@Red-zh7vq]

How long before game studios crack down on lets plays/livestreams and put the whole streamer community out of a job?

[@tyrellthiel2201]

Am i the only person who thinks it would be hysterical if Rings of Power caused the downfall of Amazon?

[@AngryOvaries]

How exactly do they plan to protect them from us not watching their crappy films? 😂 They get cancelled because they don't get enough views to offset the amount of money they are burning on it not because "toxic fans" are saying mean things.

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

A sequel can be better, I’d argue aliens was better than Alien. But only if you’re trying to put the film above yourself

[@Brownsuga777]

That's fine. Less money for them then

[@tambor34]

I only had to hear one word to not see Joker 2….musical. I hate musicals.

[@breakinzero9817]

We just do not want Woke Garbage!!! Make good movies. It’s simple.

[@crsmntmr392]

What theyre gonna do make us not watch?

[@cherylM.905]

If as a studio all u can produce is remakes, reimagined, prequels and woke nonsense u actually have nothing to say. And it proves woke Hollowood has zero creativity or originality. They’d take a picture of the mona Lisa put through photoshop and presented as an original art piece. And then get mad when u disagree. Hollowood is useless and pointless,maybe someday they’ll get their act together maybe not. Really don’t care👎🏾

[@beautifulchlorophyll2285]

We still aint gonna buy your movie though so good luck hahah

[@Homerunprophet]

Marry me Mary watch my dog videos..Better looking than Chet anyway

[@nephimcknight5832]

I'm definitely not "out for blood", I just don't like your content. Simple.

[@gloriathomas3245]

the toxic fandom is far worst today and it has ever been past and I'm glad the studios are finally putting their foot down. Other than just attacks on actors these fandoms have become another outlet to threaten both actors and their families with violence.

[@LeaJackson-f1v]

Amanda is a terrible and honestly just as annoying as Rachel like the show sucked there was no story like take the criticism and move on like you being black and or LGBT means nothing to me give me a good show and or movie

[@breakfasttouch]

i think you have talent, but the guy that works with you constantly interjects and has awkward facial expressions as well as awkard takes. you would be better off solo.

[@banefaqs8468]

Hollywood actors and producers are pissed because youtubers are more relevant than them.