Holosun EPS MRS vs 509T - Watch Before Buying

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Freedom Gorilla

Freedom Gorilla

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@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 жыл бұрын
For a more in depth write up and pics check out our blog post freedomgorilla.com/blogs/news/holosun-509t-vs-eps-mrs?yt
@jonathanclaypool563
@jonathanclaypool563 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video how does the eps compare in size to a 507c?
@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944
@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944 9 ай бұрын
Jagerwerks did fantastic work on my G45 milling the slide for my 509t. Also grabbed new height Dawson irons with the recommendation from Jagerwerks who gave me the exact height and model for their very low 509t direct mill/mount. Been running my gen3 G19/RMRrm7/x300ub for years but my G45/509t/Streamlight tlr1hl has become my favorite duty set-up. For off duty EDC I run the 43x/tlr6 & at some point will get an EPS carry &send the slide to Jagerwerks for direct mount. Great video.
@fun2916
@fun2916 23 күн бұрын
I like the extra height of the 509t for running a suppressor on G17. It easily clears the suppressor and direct mounts nicely to my milled slide
@mzbarsk
@mzbarsk 4 ай бұрын
My goto for Red Dot optics. Thank You. No BS, no fluff, straight to the point. Cheers.
@pinetreesquad
@pinetreesquad Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Answered the questions I am had and taught me a few more details. Well done 👍
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you
@musician445
@musician445 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. I have a 509t on a rifle but didn't like how the adapter would have made it sit so high on a pistol. I'll probably be going for the EPS for pistol mounting at some point soon. I haven't put enough rounds on the 509t to have a real opinion, but I bought it because I like the features and felt like it fit the role of backup optic well. I'm glad to see holosun making a more pistol oriented version now and continuing to make innovations that will hopefully make western optic manufacturers take note.
@kicksndcars6029
@kicksndcars6029 Жыл бұрын
It’s not that high and it’s easier too find the dot then the eps I have both and the 509t is better but they are both great if I could do it again I’d got 509t for g17 to g19 size firearms and g26 and under get eps or eps carry the size of the firearm kinda matters the plate really doesn’t raise it so much co witness sights work. The one bonus too the eps is you can you stock height sights so don’t have too change out Irons if you got a low pair you really like
@jijjr
@jijjr 11 ай бұрын
Choosing between a 509T and Trijicon SRO mounted on a Scalarworks mount to a Beretta 1301 Tactical
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 11 ай бұрын
509t is way more durable and weatherproof
@dirtmagurt5752
@dirtmagurt5752 Жыл бұрын
Bro great video you saved me some time and trouble knowing what suppressor height sites I need. Thanks!
@طارقالحربي-ي8ض
@طارقالحربي-ي8ض 7 ай бұрын
ماذا فهمت منه ياعزيزي
@aarongerdts216
@aarongerdts216 11 ай бұрын
Just got my eps and plate for my echelon from you guys... the plate is 100% better than what comes with the EPS... shits dope
@roderickpayne4898
@roderickpayne4898 6 ай бұрын
I have the echelon with the 507c right now. I'm switching to a closed emitter sight. Do you think it would be better with the 509t or EPS since you already have it? Appreciate your insight.
@wokndedfan413
@wokndedfan413 Ай бұрын
I use EPS Carry and RMR on my pistols. I bought 2 509Ts, and decided to use them on my Kpos Scout and Roni as plinkers. I’m putting Aimpont H1 on all my SHTF PCCs, Shotguns and Rifles.
@ATAKTICON
@ATAKTICON Жыл бұрын
I got a Glock 19 Gen 3 with a RMR cut, I want a enclosed emitter with a solar. Which route show I go with Holosun. The 509 looks like I’d have to have too many plates and would sit too high since my slide is already cut for RMR
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
You’d have the same amount of plates with either. I would get an mos EPS adapter plate or 509t adapter plate. The eps is going to be lighter
@stacks4943
@stacks4943 Жыл бұрын
Great video..! Thanks for sharing. Just purchased the EPS from you guys because of this video. Cheers..!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the ordering, it’s appreciated!
@patricksantos361
@patricksantos361 Жыл бұрын
509t, cause i think the clamp style mounting system can take more abuse especially on direct mill.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@almorrow8158
@almorrow8158 Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison 👏 after watching this in my opinion eps Mrs for pistol and 509t for ar15 that's my plan's
@thekimmonia
@thekimmonia Ай бұрын
Great comparison, thank you! Got one of each. Carry pistol and long gun. Useful info.
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 3 ай бұрын
509t on 12 o’clock mount for lpvo on rifle….eps carry mrs on a Battlewerx cut g19 slide. EPS carry on full size slide means no muffin top overhang….perfectly flush like the slide was forged with it. 509titanium just in case it gets bashed around a bit.
@wtfmrkratos
@wtfmrkratos Жыл бұрын
I have the 509t on my Glock 45. I had the slide milled for it, so the deck height is low. Screw running plates. However, I’m probably going to go with the EPS MRS (non carry) for my m&p m2.0, if the slide can be milled for it directly, but with moving the optic to the rear and have the rear sight moved distal to the optic. Not sure if it’ll be possible, because of the safety plunger hole on the m&p. Thank you for doing this comparison video!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Milling a slide for the 509t is awesome. I’d love to do that. Have u seen. The SCS MP2? It’s for the MP 2.0. It mounts directly to the slide, no plates
@wtfmrkratos
@wtfmrkratos Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 no I haven’t! I’ll google that now
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yea check it out. We have it on our site and in stock. We haven’t made a video on it yet though
@christopherrussell1558
@christopherrussell1558 Жыл бұрын
With the 509t on the glock 45 do you still have to run suppressor height irons to cowitness? About to send my g45 slide off in the next month to be milled and am torn between the 2 but don't want to run suppressor height
@wtfmrkratos
@wtfmrkratos Жыл бұрын
@@christopherrussell1558 I get a lower 1/3 co witness with shadow systems sights. I recommend wagermachine works for getting your slide milled. I can’t put a link in the description, but you can google him. He’s the guy who’s done all of my slide work and I love his quality, price and turn around time. That’s wager not Wagner. Wager machine works dot you know.
@hard_on_knives3145
@hard_on_knives3145 Жыл бұрын
No plates for post style RMR cuts with the 509t
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yep it’s the same for the EPS too
@PoisonSpyder038
@PoisonSpyder038 9 ай бұрын
It sucks I have 5 slides and they all have RMR cuts with the ZEV posts so I can’t use either of these sights
@rafaelj2868
@rafaelj2868 Ай бұрын
Is there a difference in mounting eps and eps green?
@Stack151
@Stack151 Жыл бұрын
I have several 509Ts and they are amazing and durable. I have an EPS and EPS Carry on order, but have yet to personally use. Great comparison and IMO, the 509T is better for hard use (stronger and more solid mounting). For competition or cary, the EPS series would be better. Closed emitters are the best option unless you are shooting competition. I'm slowly swapping out all of my optics for one of these two optics.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Good info thanks for sharing your experience. Makes sense
@DogoGu-e7b
@DogoGu-e7b Жыл бұрын
why not for competition?
@Stack151
@Stack151 Жыл бұрын
@@DogoGu-e7b you can use them for competition, but for me a larger window is better for competition. SRO, Romeo MAX, 507 Competition.
@Gospeed777
@Gospeed777 11 ай бұрын
If you want to get rid of ant optics lmk
@Kiloalphabravo
@Kiloalphabravo 8 ай бұрын
After you have had some time with these, which do you prefer? I have had 2 509t optics on 2 of my sig p320’s for over a year. They are both on norsso slides that are 509t cut, so no plates. I just got my g19c cut for the eps (k series) footprint and I am having trouble deciding which eps I want to go with.. I definitely will be going MRS-Green dot, but eps carry will sit flush, however the full size eps has a bigger window, and I do not believe it will have tooo much overhang. I have scoured the internet and cannot find a picture or video of anyone comparing these on a Glock 19 slide, which is crazy to me. What did you mount your eps and eps carry to? How do you like them? Which do you think would be best on a g19? I’m leaning towards EPS full size, heavily, but would love to hear from someone with first hand experience. Thanks
@PrayingPanda
@PrayingPanda Жыл бұрын
Your prices seem to be in line with the average webshop. What do you sell lower than everyone else?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
We offer free shipping and as of right now, we only charge sales tax in 5 states. Thanks for watching!
@PrayingPanda
@PrayingPanda Жыл бұрын
@freedomgorilla1 not bad. Good luck.
@ArmSTRONG-p2e
@ArmSTRONG-p2e 5 ай бұрын
Do we know for sure the EPS is IPX8? Their website states in the description that it’s IP67 but then in the specs says that it’s IPX8. Maybe it’s possible that it achieved both ratings? 🤷‍♂️ I’m leaning towards typo since on the product listing on Holosun’s site it also says that the reticle is “Gold” despite it being a green Green MRS version.
@stepheno.2730
@stepheno.2730 2 ай бұрын
EPS and done, lighter, lower profile, and a more solid mount with screws vs clamp
@v.german11b
@v.german11b 2 жыл бұрын
Very well presented 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@travisthompson4258
@travisthompson4258 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a G19 mos, and was wondering if you would go with the EPS or the EPS Carry. The only thing that I've seen that would point me toward the Carry is how the EPS hangs over slightly on the slide, but I wanted to get your or the comment sections' opinion. Thanks
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
EPS carry will have less overhang. I preferably like less overhang
@travisthompson4258
@travisthompson4258 Жыл бұрын
@freedomgorilla1 I completely agree. I've seen posts where people say it's too small for the g19 or not made for a compact, but I'm not a fan of the overhang either. I appreciate the feedback. If anyone would know, it would be you guys. Thanks again 👍
@ronnguyen8287
@ronnguyen8287 Жыл бұрын
Honestly that's what I thought as well. How ever having mounted the carry on my 19 im now thinking the window size is too small 😢
@travisthompson4258
@travisthompson4258 Жыл бұрын
@@ronnguyen8287 so the bigger window is worth the overhang on the slide in your opinion? I'm still on the fence and haven't made any purchase yet, but I am doing my research. I guess the bigger question is where in the heck did you get the mos to eps plate? 😂 Those things are hard to find.
@ronnguyen8287
@ronnguyen8287 Жыл бұрын
@travisthompson4258 yes its worth the over hang. The over hang from the EPS on my glock 19 isn't bad at all. And I don't run plates on anything I got my 19 slide milled for the K footprint so it's a direct bolt on. The way it should be.
@mikomondaysharp
@mikomondaysharp Жыл бұрын
Something important a lot of people are finding out with the MRS EPS is that because of the aspherical lens tech they are touting on the EPS that eliminates image distortion through the optic is causing the reticle to compress as it reaches the edges of the optic window. It's pretty annoying given that you're paying extra money to be able to have the multiple reticles. the 509T has some level of reticle squishing but it's not nearly as bad as the EPS MRS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2m2kIiJrJd1oc0
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Hmm yea first we are seeing /hearing about this. We will check some of ours out
@mikomondaysharp
@mikomondaysharp Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 good to hear, great content just found your guys channel!
@87t73
@87t73 3 ай бұрын
Thx for your explaning. Ihave some question.Can the holosun 509t mount on glock mos plate? Or you already have how to install that on glock mos OEM.
@madstoppie
@madstoppie Жыл бұрын
Great review but let me pitch in on the IPX8 and IP67 ratings. The EPS has an IPX8 rating: IPX8 is based on testing conditions where the device is submerged in up to 1.5 meters of freshwater for up to 30 minutes. These devices are not advised for beach or pool use, and they are not dust-resistant. Key problem with the EPS is that is NOT DUST PROOF. The 509T has an IP67 rating: IP67 rated enclosure offers dust tight protection against solid ingress from sources like windblown dirt. Combine that with strong water resistance to everything from hose sprays to temporary submersion, Key advantage, is both water proof and DUST PROOF. The 509T is hands down a better option, but if size matters, the EPS is smaller.
@ronnguyen8287
@ronnguyen8287 Жыл бұрын
Well let me pitch on this comment. Holosun states it is both water proof and dust proof. So If anything happens they will either fix it or send you a new one.
@ArmSTRONG-p2e
@ArmSTRONG-p2e 5 ай бұрын
Got any sources on this? Haven’t heard about the dust stuff
@ArmSTRONG-p2e
@ArmSTRONG-p2e 5 ай бұрын
Also, Holosun’s website says the EPS is both IP67 and IPX8 rated. Maybe it’s a typo?
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 4 ай бұрын
Holosun says the EPS is IP68, so the same dust protection (Dust-tight, the maximum rating) and better water resistance than the 509T. For explanation, when someone says IPX8, it doesn't mean it has no dust protection rating, it just means that they are only commenting on the water rating at the moment. To say it has no dust protection, they would say IP08.
@cheese.n.crackers
@cheese.n.crackers 2 ай бұрын
Great comparison and explanation video. Thanks.
@ArmSTRONG-p2e
@ArmSTRONG-p2e 5 ай бұрын
Which one would be best for a Scorpion 3+ do you think?
@lightwaters
@lightwaters 3 ай бұрын
so I got the eps carry for my bul sas 2 ultra light ......do I just use the plate and screws that came with it ....help here would be soo appreciated thanks :)
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 3 ай бұрын
Yes. Also check your manual. It explains all that in it
@petey-pablo201
@petey-pablo201 Ай бұрын
Can an eps Mrs fit on a cr920xp
@mzbarsk
@mzbarsk 4 ай бұрын
Question... Have a G19, Just got a G45. Looking for a close emitter optic and leaning toward 509T. Do I need to get some other adapter plate or does 509T come with it to mount it to G45 MOS?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 4 ай бұрын
It comes with an RMR plate. But we would recommend getting a dedicated plate for the 509t. We have them.
@ryanmurphy8327
@ryanmurphy8327 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts while done 👍🏻
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! If there's any topics or products you want to see in future videos, let me know 😀
@wslrichards
@wslrichards Жыл бұрын
I own both 509t and eps carry. The problem with the 509t is that it's so difficult to find mounts that actually fit your particular pistols. I've been though several mount/ base combinations and still have not found anything suitable for every day carry.
@kylepatrick8190
@kylepatrick8190 10 ай бұрын
Any updates?
@tylerlillemon7121
@tylerlillemon7121 2 ай бұрын
Calculated Kinetics is the best option for plate adapters
@phenom7181
@phenom7181 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the window size difference?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 жыл бұрын
They’re exactly the same. They’re also the same width and length. Just the 509t is taller
@stanleyhall6102
@stanleyhall6102 Жыл бұрын
Other option was thinking 🤔 about was a 1x prism for my pap but didn’t know which reticle to get for a 762 x39 out of a ten inch barrel . The Gemini version or 300 bo version if there is one ☝️ idk 🤷‍♀️ help?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
I’m not an expert on prism scopes. I think a compact pistol optic would be a nice choice though. I have a normal 20mm red dot on my AK and i like it.
@nexus6999
@nexus6999 7 күн бұрын
Good review, putting 509T on a 1301 Mod 2!!!!
@bennyb.1742
@bennyb.1742 3 күн бұрын
Langdon mount?
@colindecker8928
@colindecker8928 7 ай бұрын
Thinkin about getting a Holosun EPS MRS for a Turkey shotgun, the 1.5 MOA wouldn’t really matter then ?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 7 ай бұрын
Nah it shouldn’t matter too much at all. .5 mos is half an inch at 100 yards
@nickkline6344
@nickkline6344 10 ай бұрын
Are they the same width? I’m looking for a optic for my Glock 20 and it looks like the 509t would be flush and I was hoping the eps would be the Same
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 9 ай бұрын
Yea they are
@86lilpenny
@86lilpenny 2 жыл бұрын
Would you use the RMR adapter plate, or a specific plate for the EPS?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll ideally i would want to use no plate and just have it mount with its modified rmsc footprint. But if i had to use the rmr adapter plate that is fine too. I would have no issues with that.
@86lilpenny
@86lilpenny Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 thank you!
@chakotaychakotay2979
@chakotaychakotay2979 Жыл бұрын
great video man, thank you, much appreciated couple of questions: 1. does EPS have smaller window than 509T 2. is EPS small enough, that you can use standard sights instead of suppressor sights? 3. if i opt to mount EPS via lets say CH precision adapter plate, will i still be able to use standard sights? your answers are much appreciated
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Hey great questions. 1. EPS and 509T window size is exactly the same 2. With the eps + rmr plate i do not think standard height sights will be visible. They also make mid level height sights which are in between suppressor height and low standard height. 3. Aside from build quality a CHPWS plate and the rmr plate included with the EPS would have the same height. If you had a slide that had the modified RMSc footprint directly on the slide that would be the best way to drop the deck height. I’d say the eps with no plate mounting directly to a modified rmsc slide would likely allow to to see standard height sights. Maybe not a co witness but enough to use them still
@andershilmo1866
@andershilmo1866 Жыл бұрын
It might depend on the gun my p10 F has a CHP plate. I can see the sights at the very bottom of the window on my eps. If you want a co witness or lower 1/3 co witness at least on my gun I would need different sights. That’s one of the reasons I wanted a eps I had heard I wouldn’t have to change the sights on my optics ready p10 series guns. I am ok with them being in the very bottom of my window keeps them out of my window better.
@nathenstoneburgh7298
@nathenstoneburgh7298 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information...I'm currently saving up to buy a holosun for my EDC.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Which one are you thinking about?
@nathenstoneburgh7298
@nathenstoneburgh7298 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 closed emitter MRS, now not sure if the 509 will let me use my suppressor sights. Maybe the EPS will be a better fit. Tax time!
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 8 ай бұрын
I use a 509T as an offset red dot on my 14.5 Geissele upper And i use an EPS on my 10mm woods gun. And a 507C on my Shadow Systems MR920, and my Mossberg 940 Shotgun.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 8 ай бұрын
Very solid choices
@beforedeth2104
@beforedeth2104 6 ай бұрын
I got a non mos g45 and was considering sending my slide off to jager works to get silencer irons and it cut for 210 and get a 509t when it returns im sure it will take a month to 2 so ill have saved up for the sight by then but just dont wanna make wrong decision. This is my EDC and im a large boy 6’4 245lb hoping this setup with a nice custom iwb holster can still be consealed without major printing. Primarily I go to the range to shoot but want to be proficient with my weapon that I plan to carry. Would you suggest this or what would you say? I have a stigmatism and kinda bad eyes and feel a sight would be a lot easier then irons, I am low low income but think this is what I’d like but would love your input I’m a new gun owner 30yo and just want to buy and cry once and get what will be ideal for me in a range of scenarios. Thanks!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 6 ай бұрын
I would honestly focus mostly on the cowitnessing of iron sights. If you can get the slide milled for the eps full size, and still cowitness your low iron sights or even get some nightfission “optic height” sights i think that would be nicer than needing the tall supressor height sights for the 509T
@stanwerner7484
@stanwerner7484 Жыл бұрын
hello, I`m looking at the EPS for Sig 365 macro--my question is --is there a difference between the 'RED" dot vs the "GREEN" dot---? thanks in advance.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Great question. The green dot is a little easier on your eyes and some people with astigmatism say it’s a little crisper. We have an article that explains some more details on the science behind it freedomgorilla.com/blogs/news/red-dot-vs-green-dot-pros-cons
@stanwerner7484
@stanwerner7484 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 thank you for sharing---I defiantly have a better understanding of the two and what may be better for me. I will be sure to bookmark your website for my future shopping needs. Veteran discounts?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
@@stanwerner7484 thx so much .. yes for most items 10%
@gsxraiders
@gsxraiders Жыл бұрын
509T are still prefer by someone like myself who has a Taurus Raging Hunter 545. Does anyone know how much lower is the 509T mounted directly to a rail vs an EPS with a rail adapter.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
509t still needs to use a picatinny adapter. It won’t mount directly to a pic rail
@gsxraiders
@gsxraiders Жыл бұрын
​@Freedom Gorilla wait, it doesnt?? I thought that it does. Thanks for saving me the headache.
@davidchaparro2517
@davidchaparro2517 8 ай бұрын
I've been flip flopping between these two for weeks so I've got a couple questions. Gonna be my first optic, putting it on a Flux Raider pic rail, so lower height is better, but mounting options are a little hardier for the 509t. But I've read a lot of people feel the EPS has notably better clarity. Do you think the 509 has drastically improved with the X2 to the point of having the same clarity as the EPS? Any idea which of these you'd choose for a super compact pdw like the Raider?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t noticed a difference between clarity on either of them. Perhaps there is but it’s not something that I’ve ever noticed. I think both are prettt similar. You are just going to have a little heavier and taller sight w the 509t and more durability.
@markej4801
@markej4801 7 ай бұрын
Good vid with solid comparisons! I agree with your conclusions completely.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@1hunter
@1hunter Жыл бұрын
Can you mount the 509t straight to a picatinny rail without using a rmr adapter?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
You can buy a picatinny adapter. Either a low one or a 1/3 cowitness. Then the 509t will just clamp to that
@1hunter
@1hunter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and so for this much money, Holosun should include mounting plate for their red optics. I like some of their red dot optic, but boy it's a pain in the butt trying to find mounts or get it mounted on some of my guns.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yea they used to include pic rail adapter and stopped for some reason
@colinwhite8376
@colinwhite8376 Жыл бұрын
When I'm on your app asking questions is it u replying?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yup all chats, texts, emails 👍🏻
@ArmSTRONG-p2e
@ArmSTRONG-p2e 5 ай бұрын
7075 T6 aluminum is stronger than some Titanium alloys from what I’ve read, so that may change out the EPS as more durable depending on which type of titanium the 509 is. I don’t think Holosun tells us, though.
@johnelder7449
@johnelder7449 Жыл бұрын
Whar are the reticles in each ?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Both MRS
@Caliboy94
@Caliboy94 5 ай бұрын
Which would you pick for echelon?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 5 ай бұрын
For most situations i just choose the eps full size. The 509T i think is best if you really need titanium
@VILLVINOUS88
@VILLVINOUS88 11 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was looking for. Thank yu 🙏
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 11 ай бұрын
Yvw
@Sageecrabeeass
@Sageecrabeeass Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you. I was thinking of the 509T. Will the EPS MRS work on A G45 MOS? will it mount with or without a plate? I would like to keep the standard hight iron sights. Thanks for your time brother!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. EPS mrs comes with an rmr plate. What i would do is get a MOS to Holosun K plate then mount it directly to that. That should let you see some of your irons.
@JGPHX86
@JGPHX86 Жыл бұрын
Thanks exactly the info I needed, great video
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
@oscarrubino1067
@oscarrubino1067 Жыл бұрын
Will the EPS fit flush on a CZ P10c?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean width wise? If so unlikely.
@molonlabe8126
@molonlabe8126 Жыл бұрын
Very nice comparaison, that was really useful to me !
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you and glad it was helpful!
@humorss
@humorss 8 ай бұрын
509 foot print is actually a ground down pic rail. amazing on removable rail rifles.
@mgs5_snake821
@mgs5_snake821 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Does solar panel works good on these sights and how long that last? I have one Holosun red dot it’s for rifle don’t know the name but solar panel was useless on that sight.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
We’ll the battery lasts 50k hours on setting 6 with the dot only. The solar panel acts as a fail safe. I can’t comment on how useful it is. I would have to try it out without the battery. It may be a good video idea
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 8 ай бұрын
I personally used it. My offset red dot on my spare rifle actually died and although I had spare batteries with me, I ran it the whole day with just the solar just to test it. It worked great HOWEVER it only illuminates while In direct light so it doesn't hold a charge or anything, if you go out of the light it goes off. But it's a nice backup in a pinch for sure
@12_nine9
@12_nine9 Жыл бұрын
Are the window sizes the same or different?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Extremely similar
@awokeone7997
@awokeone7997 Жыл бұрын
Which one would be a better option to run directly milled on a 2011 STI?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
I’d do some more asking around but I’d probably say the EPS MRS. you could even get the rmr footprint milled to the slide instead of the K series and use the adapter. This would also let you use other RMR footprints jf you wanted
@awokeone7997
@awokeone7997 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 thank you, appreciate the response
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yw anytime
@AdamSmith-su6pv
@AdamSmith-su6pv Жыл бұрын
Paul!!! I think each has its own specific application. I received the EPS today from y'all and for me I won't run that optic on a full size 5" + pistol. I understand function over looks but it looks like a micro head on a weight lifters body if placed on full size 🤣
@AdamSmith-su6pv
@AdamSmith-su6pv Жыл бұрын
@@awokeone7997 I'd go 509t. I have one on my Staccato P with threaded barrel and tactical height sights (suppressor height sights) and the window in the 509t is much bigger. Easier for me to pick up the red dot.
@protectpersevere2030
@protectpersevere2030 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Currently i have a 507c on both my carry gun and piggybacked on my scoped AR. Thinking of putting the eps on my edc and mounting the 509t on the AR
@ryandavidson3010
@ryandavidson3010 Жыл бұрын
Will the EPS MRS fit on RMR QD mounts? Thank you this video was great
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yw. And yes any of the EPS full size models will fit an RMR mount. They come with an aluminum plate
@ryandavidson3010
@ryandavidson3010 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 thank you!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
@@ryandavidson3010 yw
@FourT6and22
@FourT6and22 Жыл бұрын
Is there any way to mount the EPS on a pic. rail? Without an adapter plate? I know you can use the K to RMR adapter plate and then mount that onto pic. rail mounts that fit the RMR footprint. But is there a direct-mount picatinny rail mount for the EPS?
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yes we sell a picatinny adapter plate that mounts the EPS or K series optics to a pic rail
@FourT6and22
@FourT6and22 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1Do you have a link or a SKU? I'm talking about a direct picatinny mount for the EPS.
@1804Defender
@1804Defender Жыл бұрын
This is confusing asf. The EPS comes with a RMR plate but it’s a 507k footprint? 🤔🤔 someone please help me understand.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Lol yes it is. It’s a k series footprint on the housing, but it comes with a k series to RMR adapter plate. This way if you have an RMR footprint you can still mount it
@1804Defender
@1804Defender Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 ahh!!! My man!! 👍🏾👍🏾 thank you
@ronnguyen8287
@ronnguyen8287 Жыл бұрын
And that's why you wait for technology to get better lol. Got my 19 milled for 507k foot print. Now when I get my eps it will be a direct bolt on and can use regular buis.
@trantem
@trantem Жыл бұрын
I've got a 509t on order right now. My plan is to stick it on a 590 shockwave modified with a full buttstock that I use as my bush gun while I'm mushroom foraging. A company local to my country made an rmr mount for the 590 that I've also got on order and that I'm hoping to use to keep the dot low against the receiver.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yes we have low mounts for it too. Sounds good
@trikyle005
@trikyle005 Жыл бұрын
This was excellent and helped me alot. Thank you 🙏
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
@BrandensOutdoorChannel Жыл бұрын
Good points. I own the EPS carry, EPS, and 509T.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Sweet! Do you like one best?
@jsolemi3281
@jsolemi3281 Жыл бұрын
Please lmk, I’m torn between the 509T and EPS. 😂
@Gospeed777
@Gospeed777 9 ай бұрын
@@jsolemi3281me to
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
@BrandensOutdoorChannel 8 ай бұрын
​@@freedomgorilla1i like them all. 509T is on my beretta1301. Not much difference on the range.
@BenfromFlux
@BenfromFlux Жыл бұрын
Great video. I love and have a bunch of all three.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Mike-io3eu
@Mike-io3eu Жыл бұрын
Which would be better for a 10mm g20 gen 5 mos? I was leaning towards 509t but not a fan of the clamp but does seem like it would be stronger. Its a back up woods gun mostly used early morning before hunting because of hog infested woods.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Here’s our fitment guide for the glock mos: freedomgorilla.com/blogs/news/top-4-holosun-optics-for-the-glock-mos?collection Personally I’d go with a 509t or 508t. Both are titanium so they’re very heavy-duty
@brian6697
@brian6697 8 ай бұрын
I want the 509T for my 1301 shotgun for my pistol the EPS is what I would pick
@davidmojonnier1034
@davidmojonnier1034 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Hope it helps!
@vernonasian
@vernonasian Жыл бұрын
GREAT COMPARISON! Thank you
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@civicsr2cool
@civicsr2cool 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Titanium is much more heavier than aluminum fyi 👍 it’s a common misconception.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 10 ай бұрын
Yes for sure it is! I didn’t realize
@wokndedfan413
@wokndedfan413 Жыл бұрын
Not really. I can run 509T on my PCCs with an American Defense QR Mount. I run 509T on MP5 and CMMG Banshees. EPS is great to have when slide is milled out for EPS
@seang1032
@seang1032 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@boomee78
@boomee78 Жыл бұрын
You can get aftermarket plates for the 509t
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Yes there’s a ton of them, and you could also use the SCRS with the 509t mounts too (don’t do it on pistol though because that’ll void the SCRS warranty)
@sphill_edc
@sphill_edc Жыл бұрын
No one is talking about the difference in mounting the two. I much prefer mounting the 509t with the screw and plate on the side rather than screws coming down behind the lens and your bit possibly scratching the glass/frame on the EPS
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Good point
@gunznknives
@gunznknives Ай бұрын
Great info!
@hardknoxblount
@hardknoxblount 29 күн бұрын
According to Holoson, the 509T is 1.7 oz and the EPS MRS is 1.4 Oz. You need a better scale.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 29 күн бұрын
Did u ever think my scale is right and the stats on Holosun’s website are wrong? Bc I’ve had a few optics i know are heavier than they list. The 509T is heavy titanium and has a steel plate. The eps is lightweight aluminum and has an aluminum plate. It’s not a .2 oz difference like they state.
@mikegurv1818
@mikegurv1818 Ай бұрын
Thank you.
@tgert0803
@tgert0803 Жыл бұрын
Great information and presentation 👍
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@brrrt7623
@brrrt7623 Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thanks!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, we appreciate it!
@keenanschouten2582
@keenanschouten2582 8 ай бұрын
IPX8 the “x” means it wasn’t tested for dust.
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 4 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't. IPX8 means that that particular statement is only commenting on water resistance and isn't concerned about dust resistance so isn't specifying the rating for that. It can be rated whatever for dust, they just aren't saying. The EPS is IP68 rated, so it is rated 6 for dust resistance (the maximum).
@keenanschouten2582
@keenanschouten2582 4 ай бұрын
@@MarvinCZ x means not tested
@HardNo
@HardNo 2 ай бұрын
Thanks friend.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 ай бұрын
Your welcome!
@royd-l
@royd-l Жыл бұрын
Great info, great liquor cabinet
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Ty!
@boltgun7266
@boltgun7266 Ай бұрын
Great video
@stanleyhall6102
@stanleyhall6102 Жыл бұрын
Was wanting something like the 509 to mount to a ak 🔫 pica tiny rail . For a low small footprint 👣 optic?
@mmyr123
@mmyr123 Жыл бұрын
Thanks good vid!
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@charles17508
@charles17508 Жыл бұрын
Id have to agree on a pcc id go 509 t but id go with eps
@adamnickel
@adamnickel Жыл бұрын
I quit drinking a month ago. I feel amazing. Food for thought.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
Good. I don’t drink much at all
@albertogorrin2860
@albertogorrin2860 11 ай бұрын
Great video too bad the 509T won’t mount directly to an Echelon, although there’s plenty of space to expand the foot print to do so.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. It will Mount using the plate. They also have an adapter plate from chpws. We have it on our site
@markkowaleski3608
@markkowaleski3608 Жыл бұрын
fantastic
@TheRealOfficialGator
@TheRealOfficialGator Жыл бұрын
So what you are saying is that the EPS MRS would make a wonderful optic for a spear pistol LOL
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 Жыл бұрын
If you meant spare pistol then sure!
@TheRealOfficialGator
@TheRealOfficialGator Жыл бұрын
@@freedomgorilla1 It was a joke, like a spear gun pistol for scuba diving since it can be submerged
@Swoliecanoli
@Swoliecanoli 2 ай бұрын
good video
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@burrejo
@burrejo 8 ай бұрын
It's application...509t is better on a rifle especially with the 2moa red dot.
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 8 ай бұрын
They both have the same reticle
@burrejo
@burrejo 8 ай бұрын
@freedomgorilla1 oh...well which one is better then? Had just ordered a 509t for an AR offset paired with a 3-15x vortex
@JH-ox9kw
@JH-ox9kw 6 ай бұрын
damn,,,, I got the same Bar
@freedomgorilla1
@freedomgorilla1 6 ай бұрын
Haha no way! It’s a nice one
@JH-ox9kw
@JH-ox9kw 6 ай бұрын
3 piece 600.00 Salvation Army smokin deal!
@larryholton9560
@larryholton9560 8 ай бұрын
just bought a 5090 for a shadow systems 9 and it works perfectly.. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a boy that I've never seen before ain't full of shit
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