HOLY BETRAYAL

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An "offshoot" of the Seventh Day Adventist Church has emerged in Nyanza Kenya. No school, no hospital for its members. Children are dropping out of formal education, and professionals ditching careers.
Another dispatch of #HolyBetrayal with Brian Obuya #SeventhDayExtremism

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@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@Moviextra01
@Moviextra01 5 ай бұрын
Ok
@Godhelpkenya
@Godhelpkenya 4 ай бұрын
I was lost for over 30years in a church that had traditions that contradicted the word of God..until i heard the pure word from an SDA crusade.....my life changed..i thank God. Brian we will also pray for you the Lord will show you His TRUTH. 'My sheep will hear my voice....'
@kenyantrader1084
@kenyantrader1084 4 ай бұрын
You are brainwashed by the cult you need those prayers more
@PhilipNjagi
@PhilipNjagi 4 ай бұрын
Peleka ujuaji huko
@mikeyoung5847
@mikeyoung5847 5 ай бұрын
We will continue to have our sabbath school sessions in the morning, divine hour as usual, break for lunch and eat fully before winding up with bible studies in the evening.
@austineochieng9946
@austineochieng9946 5 ай бұрын
Correct
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@everlinemandi5574
@everlinemandi5574 5 ай бұрын
Am proud to be a seventh day Adventist we av schools,we ve hospitals our children watch tv we never fast n am over 40yrs i wonder where this came from anyways we love n trust our church nothing can ever change that.
@violachelangat2935
@violachelangat2935 5 ай бұрын
You trust a church that was started and controlled by men?
@jobokal5930
@jobokal5930 5 ай бұрын
Brian Obuya, how can the SDA church discourage discourage education and still have one of the best private universities in Kenya, why should the church invest in media and still discourage members from watching tv and listen to the radio, it is true that there are some radical teachings from groups that claim to be sda members but this doesnt represent the beliefs of the church, what the church believes in is summarised in the seventh day adventist fundamental beliefs which you should have gone through.
@odongoouso
@odongoouso 4 ай бұрын
Justice Maraga himself is a member of the SDA.
@bensonmwisa
@bensonmwisa 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the good work Mr Obuya. Happy Sabbath and welcome to our SDA church tomorrow.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@cynthiaongera8280
@cynthiaongera8280 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣wow
@user-zz4cb8db5p
@user-zz4cb8db5p 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@jobokal5930
@jobokal5930 5 ай бұрын
Just like you won't question Kenya as a country when one kenyan or a group of Kenyans goes against the Kenyan constitution, is the same way you won't attach the entire church because of one family that has a problem. It's prudent and professional to judge the church based on the document that guides the church and not the individual case of one member as this does not represent the true position of the church. I have seen the church discouraging members from joining groups that have this strange teachings and even dissosiating with them.
@odongoouso
@odongoouso 4 ай бұрын
Indeed this is a family thing, without stating the doctrines of SDA it becomes a quarter backed Documentary.
@dunwaweru6367
@dunwaweru6367 5 ай бұрын
Prof Rei kesis was on point,John 8:32 u shall know the truth n the truth shall set u free,Hosea 4:6 My people perish for lack of knowledge,if u know all that not even an Angel can miss lead u
@user-bm6jd6ko2m
@user-bm6jd6ko2m 5 ай бұрын
This is a biased opinion, prof
@victorcheprot5017
@victorcheprot5017 5 ай бұрын
“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” - John 8:44 (KJV)
@odongoouso
@odongoouso 4 ай бұрын
@@victorcheprot5017 Wala
@johnsonokeyo545
@johnsonokeyo545 4 ай бұрын
By Persecuting the church Paul was called to be an Apostle of the Word. I also pray for Brian that through his investigation he may also see the light and join the fold.
@noraachiengnyayimbo7797
@noraachiengnyayimbo7797 5 ай бұрын
I have heard you Brian and we will go sort it at home, because you are tarnishing the church that has made me to be the most disciplined lady.If it were not for SDA sijui ningekuwa aje😢
@henrykenneth9025
@henrykenneth9025 5 ай бұрын
you have not gotten this documentary right
@margaretkukali5264
@margaretkukali5264 5 ай бұрын
P
@margaretkukali5264
@margaretkukali5264 5 ай бұрын
😊
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@sheryldaisy5555
@sheryldaisy5555 4 ай бұрын
​@@henrykenneth9025I wonder why they refuse to understand the word split
@joyceogwe3272
@joyceogwe3272 5 ай бұрын
For those saying these are only family matters and don't involve church, extremism and radicalisation in churches, (any church, not only SDA), has everything to do with families, very directly. That is a truth we SDA's shouldn't bury our heads in the sand about. However, I don't know which kind of extremism or that of which church influenced that particular family, but what I know and have witnessed first hand is that extremism is very real and happens a lot in our church (SDA). That is not to say that the church as an organisation is in support or agreement with extremism but I am saying, it is happening. Tusijidanganye that haiko.
@sharonnyamagwa8861
@sharonnyamagwa8861 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you, it is very real.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@sheryldaisy5555
@sheryldaisy5555 4 ай бұрын
Me too I am a witness
@odongoouso
@odongoouso 4 ай бұрын
@@sheryldaisy5555 What solution did you give as a witness. you just you are a witness
@dianaoluoch4201
@dianaoluoch4201 4 ай бұрын
Honestly since Citizen TV aired my cousin Kevin Obede eti first class betrayal with false story, infact we almost sued citizen TV. I don't trust any story media investigates. This guys are acting hakuna kitu hapa. May God forgive this Man and show him the right path to internity.
@Christiansongs254
@Christiansongs254 5 ай бұрын
ALL these happenings within the church is the work of the enemy trying to fight God but again we all have an individual/ personal responsibility to search the word and seek to understand it through the Holy spirit of God. The bible is very clear....if you go to church and ata you dont have your bible for reference unaenda tu kukaa kwa kiti usikize na unatoka hapo ukisema pastor alisema....how can you know the truth kama you dont read your bible..? sometimes you only meet your bible on sabbath just for the sake of ....you dont read it ata within the week for spiritual guidance and growth...and even while you read put the bible first as your guide by the help of GOD. AND when such teachings come His word will be a light unto your paths.
@deboraadisa1655
@deboraadisa1655 5 ай бұрын
BUt what investigation and reporting is this? Poor journalism. The lady apparently absconded duty for months, but he's not accessed the school to talk to the principal. A head of department absconding duty. How did he know? The girl is in form one, can speak, never bothered to reach out to her. Then the midnight call? Midamba reported the matter to the children. He can't show us that he visited the children department to verify. Didn't get time to interview Pr. Kesis? When was Kesis a chaplain in Baraton? The guy just went to KZbin The Ranen pastor not given even much time. Serious research was needed. I have watched and rewatched this and did not see the offshoot or members congregating. Did he establish that the lady was an Adventist? Where was she fellowshipping before, how about her membership? Serious concerns about the offshoots yes, but poorly done
@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN
@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN 5 ай бұрын
Poor journalism
@mwirigisolomon2409
@mwirigisolomon2409 5 ай бұрын
What a poor journalist
@emmahomburoh6479
@emmahomburoh6479 5 ай бұрын
The whole report wasn't proffesional...This is a way of Turnishing SDA names..This man should get a proper documentary about SDAs
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@jepkemei
@jepkemei 4 ай бұрын
This is a shame because there religious groups that need investigation. This sounds like a village gossip thing.
@ogwenomasten8892
@ogwenomasten8892 5 ай бұрын
These are the common family issues that we have around us on daily basis and never aired on television. Brian Obuya don't orchestrate family affairs to SDA trying to seek relevance in an attempt to promote your career. This is cheap, shallow and mediocre. You could do better than this.
@opujejoshmahjoshmah1432
@opujejoshmahjoshmah1432 5 ай бұрын
Mungu amekuwa akiwajia kupitia hao mumewakimbiza makanisani mwenu mukiwaita Offshoots..sasa taifa inawafunuwa Uchida wenu...Historia yajirudia DA232.2 fungus macho yako..fanya matengenezo Ew56..Yer6:16 Rudi kwa njia ya kale ya Mitume na manabii..
@CynthiaKamanza
@CynthiaKamanza 5 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@AALM2023
@AALM2023 4 ай бұрын
Soma yote Hey Brio, your work is great in trying to find out whats happening. I have gone through most of the comments and people arnt potatrying Christs love even if they are SDA. I have gone through the video, There are 3 issues here 1 Marital 2 Ofshoots 3 Wrong allegations against the Church. Clearly this story , atmost half of it is family realated purely. Please find out more to the family other than soup ya juu 2 It is true ofshooys are there yeaching false teachingd, if you read ou LESSON GUIDE FOR THIS WEEK Pr.Mark Finely clearly puts it that we need to walk in Gods light(John 12 : 35) We need the Holy spirit and the scripture to help us understand the Bible and its teachings and so i can stand firm to say offshoots are real and peopla mus be aware of them You have not done well to accuse the entire church of false teachings, please Pr Misiani has given out facts and i wouldn't repeat them Man is ro error but next time dig deep into the roots of the issue. From AALM TV
@Godhelpkenya
@Godhelpkenya 4 ай бұрын
When i joined thus church i was taught one thing, pray for them because only the Lord will open their eyes. We should not get angry, rather pray more and love more.
@mikeoyugi2486
@mikeoyugi2486 5 ай бұрын
Still wondering the connectivity of the Title vs the content...
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@rebeccahondari7973
@rebeccahondari7973 5 ай бұрын
Please give us the names of the pastors involved in these teachings because I have never heard of such teachings in SDA . This is purely a family issue but you have decided to balloon it for your own benefits you know better.
@turphenaayieko4640
@turphenaayieko4640 4 ай бұрын
My friend this is very true,,it's happening in our church am avictim
@kandisphere8828
@kandisphere8828 4 ай бұрын
​@@turphenaayieko4640 wow. I hope everyone stays vigilant. Hope you're OK.
@niaukatu8737
@niaukatu8737 4 ай бұрын
This family is clearly struggling with some kind of mental/ munuplitation issues. The church fundamental teachings are clear for anyone to read. You will always have these kinds of sects in every society/church. People have to be vigilant. Read your bible. There have been several such cases here in the united states.
@benobengo5019
@benobengo5019 5 ай бұрын
The title should have been divorce in Kenya
@venaarstvmorris8685
@venaarstvmorris8685 5 ай бұрын
A splinter group doesn't carry the name so this is not about SDA.
@michaelogana4024
@michaelogana4024 4 ай бұрын
My only worry is that NTV fired Mark Massai and Dennis Okari, only to hire such a half-baked incompetent crook...
@ericmisoi5041
@ericmisoi5041 5 ай бұрын
SDA church should not deny that there is a splinter groups that are already making inroads in many places not just Nyanza even the Rift, we interact with such elements. The church should address itself no denial.
@joanqueen1405
@joanqueen1405 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Brian, you have helped me understand my child. He has done engineering, very intelligent and does not want to look for a job. Reads the bible all the time, does not watch television and fasts every Sunday. I do not know who he follows online. What I am I supposed to do?
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@victorcheprot5017
@victorcheprot5017 5 ай бұрын
Mithali 20:3 Mtu kujitenga na ugomvi ni heshima kwake; Bali kila mpumbavu ataka kugombana.Mithali 26:5 Umjibu mpumbavu sawasawa na upumbavu wake; Asije akawa mwenye hekima machoni pake.
@kandisphere8828
@kandisphere8828 4 ай бұрын
Get a counsellor to speak with him. Maybe someone who is educated and still who loves the Word of God like your son. Someone who is a professional encourages him that working while serving God is possible.
@user-zz4cb8db5p
@user-zz4cb8db5p 4 ай бұрын
Joan this generation is very different,, also Try and seek for counselling cause it could be has ADHD. Also pray about it
@videlyerakinyi458
@videlyerakinyi458 5 ай бұрын
I have listened to the story who or how does is rhym with SDA...coz its totally about family matter....how does the church comes in hapa....Brian this is bullshit....mambo ya kifamilia the unawekelea the church kindly do your investigations vizuri then you can blame it on SDA and pia dont forget to bring the verse that says people must fast,,,people must not go to school ,,,and people must not embrace their careers.....open that book chapter verse ndio uanze kusema sda,sda,,,,
@amosdastone6988
@amosdastone6988 5 ай бұрын
poorest investigator how can he use one family to bring all this out?????????? let's cling firmly kwa mungu
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@gochikaur6747
@gochikaur6747 4 ай бұрын
For those who are saying it's a lie tell any member of SDA to dance and see that friendship or neighborhood coming to an end
@josiahotera2274
@josiahotera2274 5 ай бұрын
They should be sued for defamation.....the entire nation editorial team should go home
@kittydawn26
@kittydawn26 5 ай бұрын
This happened to my friend please. I live in Rongo and I know this is true
@wycliffeaoko5961
@wycliffeaoko5961 5 ай бұрын
Let the truth be told
@markdavid7972
@markdavid7972 5 ай бұрын
Those who are commenting bad .are the once involved
@odongoouso
@odongoouso 4 ай бұрын
@@kittydawn26 How does it associate to SDA?
@antonyomollo9853
@antonyomollo9853 5 ай бұрын
People need to see beyond family Religion is a strong belief , why should the mother involve the kids who are innocent ? The literates are the more brainwashed nowdays
@KAHINGASIMON
@KAHINGASIMON 5 ай бұрын
THE MAJOR PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THERE WAS NO CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS AND EXTREMISTS CALLED OFF SHOOTS. WE WERE WHIPPED TOGETHER. A NON ADVENTIST, CURRIED ADVENTIST HOME AS A TAKEAWAY.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@nixonodiwuor8720
@nixonodiwuor8720 4 ай бұрын
My friend, may God open your eyes to realize his goodness and grace to you and many others who may believe this false story of yours.
@damarisgesora3715
@damarisgesora3715 5 ай бұрын
Very proud to be born in seventh day and our children growing inside SDA.Obuya look for another job or be a family consultant
@timothywesonga4051
@timothywesonga4051 4 ай бұрын
"This is not SDA and if its SDA its offshoot" from the story narrator. The said truth in education, lifestyle and health matters in terms of medications should not be looked down by Adventist Church. Medical Missionary within the Church is recognized. Let us work with the General Conference and share about the coming of Jesus Christ.
@hypolitusmogambiombati3577
@hypolitusmogambiombati3577 5 ай бұрын
Some people creates problems to themselves.honestly how can you tarnish the remnants church in the name of looking for popularity? Very soon you will start harvesting what you have sowed.God is not mockery.mark my words.a time will come.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@liliannyaboke5194
@liliannyaboke5194 5 ай бұрын
My beloved brothers and sisters do not be moved satan is at work.... the war is not for us it is God's..... Loving God has given us a precious gift to choose... if we choose to be on His side we have life if we rebel God is the jugde be careful my brothers and sisters ....
@Ednah-O
@Ednah-O 5 ай бұрын
Is this what you call an investigation??
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@sheryldaisy5555
@sheryldaisy5555 4 ай бұрын
As a witness to this kind of teaching i know this is true and they call themselves "back to Eden" everything they do is different our main SDA long story short, my cousin died after being diagnosed with many conditions from heart,liver ,pressure ,kidneys malnutrition. rem. no drugs only boiled salted water and greens The main reason he gave us on why they dont do other foods is because "ziko na chemical" mind you he was a university who graduated just in december2023 burried this month on 5th
@stevelumumba1824
@stevelumumba1824 5 ай бұрын
Brian Obuya you did well brother I am a staunch SDA and this was the best investigative jounal I have come across
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@ceobillycb2197
@ceobillycb2197 5 ай бұрын
You just post for views and likes but just spare SDA people just do your job in peace and leave us in peace NKT
@munyuanjogu4785
@munyuanjogu4785 5 ай бұрын
LOOOOOOL. If you hear rumors that a convicted bank robber used to attend the Presbyterian or Lutheran church or any other church, do you quickly assemble a documentary on bank robbery within those churches? Saa zingine mna mchezo sana. This is poorly investigated, poorly produced and poorly presented. Gotta do better.
@markmutinda7773
@markmutinda7773 5 ай бұрын
Wanataka wafanye kama vile BBC ilifanya ya TB Joshua,,but sasa Hawa NTV hawana evidence to support
@eunicemwangi4142
@eunicemwangi4142 5 ай бұрын
​@@markmutinda7773the pastor speaking is an SDA and that's evidence, reference of real people is evidence ,what other evidence do you want
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@wambua9980
@wambua9980 5 ай бұрын
This can't meet the threshold of generalizing it to church level it's all about family issue,,,Brian Obuya I think your investigation is too shallow and wanting
@jepkemei
@jepkemei 4 ай бұрын
I am not SDA but this is in bad faith. Taking a family issue and making it a church issue is wrong. To say SDA does not believe in modern medicine is crazy, the first dispensary I attended in my childhood was an SDA health center. We know faith is under attack but this investigation was poorly done
@tungozaanzali3831
@tungozaanzali3831 4 ай бұрын
When someone has taken you captive he decides the type of information you should hear,,and he deliberately decide on what information you should never get,,,in short the person shapes your world.Its time we acknowledge the devil can decide to use what has always appeared to be the best✌️
@salimomanga953
@salimomanga953 5 ай бұрын
This is a family affair sio mambo na kanisa ... Obuya please do a nice research....
@patrickmwitwari2222
@patrickmwitwari2222 4 ай бұрын
I AM NOT AN SDA,BUT LISTENING TO THIS DOCUMENTARY YOU FEEL AND REALIZE THAT THE NARRATOR BRIAN OBUYA IS TRYING VERY MUCH TO UNNECESSARILY DRAG THE NAME OF SDA IN THE WHOLE SAGA. HE IS HELL BENT TO SNEAK SDA NAME IN THIS DRAMA BY FORCE.
@berylmasha
@berylmasha 5 ай бұрын
Shida ni watu kutokelewa he meant offshoots in the churches 😂😂. He even made a disclaimer, people are just bitter in this comment section
@Kanye25487
@Kanye25487 5 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@sheryldaisy5555
@sheryldaisy5555 4 ай бұрын
Imagine they refuse to understand that offshoot thing
@Eg.Amoeba
@Eg.Amoeba 4 ай бұрын
I am not an ardent SDA but I have never heard of such teachings. This is a man who has decided to handle his family issue on TV. I won't talk about my kids and wife on national TV. No way
@REUBENOmare-pq1kl
@REUBENOmare-pq1kl 5 ай бұрын
Bro am not an SDA but you did a foolish investigation I have friends of SDA but don't do such 😂😂😂 kindly do the right investigation ama sorry kama nimeongea vibaya but hizi ni uongo
@leahthejournalist
@leahthejournalist 5 ай бұрын
It was a poorly done documentary 😞
@markdavid7972
@markdavid7972 5 ай бұрын
Understand the interview first ....the guy has said he is a pure sda..and there is a a new cult coming up that is not a sda ....
@eunicemwangi4142
@eunicemwangi4142 5 ай бұрын
​@@leahthejournalistit will be a good documentary when children start dying. What are you defending.
@michaelnjoroge5907
@michaelnjoroge5907 5 ай бұрын
Hapa ni kama lugha ime kupiga chenga dude
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@andrewmosiere5032
@andrewmosiere5032 5 ай бұрын
Nobody refutes there are splinter groups in the SDA church. Those are new and independent churches that should be treated as such. Just because they worship on Saturday does not mean they are part of the "Original SDA" How many "churches" worship on Sunday? When one sunday church has wrong and deceiving doctrines do we also conclude that all Sunday churches follow the same? But i have to give it to Obuya. How did you expect the documentary to sale? Use SDA name in the entire doc and you get the traffic you need.
@mikeyoung5847
@mikeyoung5847 5 ай бұрын
One husband, one wife, one daughter and one friend becomes a cult of entire SDA!! This is poor work brother.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@WillyMbuvi
@WillyMbuvi 5 ай бұрын
😂😂 true
@kabaagrace7005
@kabaagrace7005 5 ай бұрын
Very unprofessionally done..this is a family issue,not a church issue... This is not journalism
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@evalinechebii3188
@evalinechebii3188 5 ай бұрын
This is not a family issue...this is a man who is trying to save his family before it's too late ...
@jannesmadilu9552
@jannesmadilu9552 5 ай бұрын
True
@brianabacha173
@brianabacha173 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@moustomondi1001
@moustomondi1001 5 ай бұрын
I know Mr Midamba he was my mentor a very responsible gentlemen! As for the offshoots - all major churches have people or individuals who tend to claim to have new light than what the church or religion teaches. We have seen that even in Islam, Catholic and many others. I am an Adventist what I hear from this sect is very strange to me it's not part of our beliefs.
@turphenaayieko4640
@turphenaayieko4640 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@sdakabiyetcentralchoiroffi3207
@sdakabiyetcentralchoiroffi3207 5 ай бұрын
When doing your research try to involve pastors or church officers in order to get a clear picture
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@HezronKanake
@HezronKanake 5 ай бұрын
we need even to question your academic background and see if you genuinely passed school if you can draw conclusion in such a shallow investigation
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@urbanusndolo9255
@urbanusndolo9255 5 ай бұрын
Great controversy is getting fierce
@keuyacyrus4772
@keuyacyrus4772 4 ай бұрын
The investigation was very specific. It was on SDA, he clearly started with SDA sprinter group . If anyone wants to pretend we have no such cases within our church then it would a strong lie.
@meshacktome3109
@meshacktome3109 5 ай бұрын
You guys saying Jesus never had a church are misguided, have you forgotten He's the Lord of the Sabbath? Matthew 12:1-8, Mark 2:23-28 and Luke 6:1-5 Jesus taught, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath” (Matthew 12:8). Do you even read and understand the bible? Hebrews 4:9-11 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV) So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works as God did from his. Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience. The bible never contradicts...all this other churches are a fulfilment of Daniel 7vs25 prophecy 4th commandments starts with a Remember the Sabbath? Why Because the devil will Remember to change it...and he did it... You're still Reminded to Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy for Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath 🎉🎉🎉 Happy Sabbath in advance
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@lameckondieki4756
@lameckondieki4756 4 ай бұрын
Theres no story here. Just know: At SDA a shot of shots was given, and "she" felt it and said; "This only means one thing, pregnancy".
@rosemutinda3076
@rosemutinda3076 4 ай бұрын
This investigator should come out and apologise to SDA coz he did a very stupid investigation.... Just search about advestist and see what they belive before airing this kind of nonsense
@josiahotera2274
@josiahotera2274 5 ай бұрын
The poorest investigation I have ever seen.... how can you use just one family to turnish the name of the entire church? Am doubting your academic credentials mr
@javanokello8068
@javanokello8068 5 ай бұрын
Me too. I’ve watched for over 20 minutes and it sound more like a family issue. I don’t understand how the SDA church was involved in this guy’s family issues.
@opujejoshmahjoshmah1432
@opujejoshmahjoshmah1432 5 ай бұрын
Yer7:4 Walipokuwa wakiambiawa Njia ya Mungu ni hii waliaza kusema Hekalu la Bwana..Open your Eyes..broz
@ezrajairo3238
@ezrajairo3238 5 ай бұрын
It's a shalow investigation
@javanokello8068
@javanokello8068 5 ай бұрын
Seriously underwhelming!
@eddieochuonyo6922
@eddieochuonyo6922 5 ай бұрын
Me too, he is taking the family affair too personal The engineer must know that his wife is living with someone else and wants to blame it on SDA Though I’m not an Adventist
@rosemutinda3076
@rosemutinda3076 4 ай бұрын
What's wrong with short hair and skirts? Because wearing trousers in women is unbibilical branding fake hair is unbibilical short hair is biblical.. The only problem with wife is like doing some cults example, separating from the husband and distance her children from their father and she does not submit to the husband. But about lifestyle, she is right
@truphenacherotich-wm5hk
@truphenacherotich-wm5hk 5 ай бұрын
This is personal investigation not a church or i can call family affair
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@RolexOdhiambo-xi3vf
@RolexOdhiambo-xi3vf 5 ай бұрын
Let's not forget how the lord has led us in the past... Satan will work in various ways.... But God is ahead of his Work
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@donaldEvangelist123
@donaldEvangelist123 5 ай бұрын
Exposure of such cases helps the public to be aware of some of the traps and tricks used by these cultic religious. deviations. Though painful to some its important for anyone who cares for their lives especially concerning faith. Thanks Brian
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@Gateway..565
@Gateway..565 5 ай бұрын
Your intentions are clear. It's clear you were acting on behalf of someone. I wonder how NTV is still keeping you as their employee with all this below standard.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@karithijohnson1845
@karithijohnson1845 5 ай бұрын
Why have nation not have been sued for defamation yet.. If you investigated about an offshoot why are you associating it with another church?
@befornnyangenaondieki7560
@befornnyangenaondieki7560 4 ай бұрын
Of all the things that will never happen, this will never happen the most, linking SDA and Shakahola
@bryjo1000
@bryjo1000 5 ай бұрын
BRIAN OBUYA OMOISIA OYO..MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU! YOU HAVE TO THREAD CAREFULLY WHEN DEALING WITH THE LORD'S WORK NDUGU YANGU!! TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELF A NAME BY SOILING THE LORD'S REMNANT CHURCH IS UNFORGIVABLE! BUT WE WILL FORGIVE YOU. GO KNEEL DOWN AND ASK THE LORD TO FORGIVE YOU BRIAN.. INTERVIEWING ONE LOST SOUL /FAMILY IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE ENTIRE SDA CHURCH. EVEN YOUR BOSSES SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOU. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU BRO. COME TO CHURCH THIS COMING SABBATH. PLEASE DEAR LORD FORGIVE HIM FOR HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING! SURELY THESE ARE THE LAST DAYS. PRAY WITHOUT CEASING!!!
@dianaoluoch4201
@dianaoluoch4201 4 ай бұрын
Very true May God forgive Obuya. Remember your sins will follow your fourth generation
@Rhee_The_Explorer
@Rhee_The_Explorer 5 ай бұрын
That is the only church where I could tithe. Blessings are real, work for it can be seen. Proud SDA. I’m a successful medical person.
@bonny4003
@bonny4003 5 ай бұрын
sijaona mahali hii inaingiliana na SDA...these just personal issues.this could have been a good investigation if only u dint involve the SDA church
@mrphilipcodelab
@mrphilipcodelab 4 ай бұрын
Did this Obuya qualify for his work? NTV needs to be sued for this.
@masindemsafiri5285
@masindemsafiri5285 5 ай бұрын
It seems even Mademba is not acquainted with the beliefs of His church. Things he is speaking about being strange like dress and adornment is a clear teaching in SDA. Let family issues be tackled as family issues. How does this story even relate to Seventh Day Adventist church
@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN
@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN 5 ай бұрын
I saw that and wondered how Brian could say"just imagine they don't take meat"everything he mentioned am practicing. It's what SDA church teaches, just that some don't practice
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@SmartS254
@SmartS254 5 ай бұрын
Very shallow and poor Investigations. Include all the parties involved. Find out the truth about the religion, if it is there, and who is running it. Interogate wife and kids. Before releasing stupid documentary to the public. Think this is confused from a family issues that should be ironed out by Mr Midamba and his wife
@HezronKanake
@HezronKanake 5 ай бұрын
We need to be careful before airing our views to the media for the sake of gaining popularity just by interviewing a few people and drawing the conclusion to the whole system.Did you first consider the implication of your words before airing out? I came to understand that ignorance has no defense..
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@arecmoms9196
@arecmoms9196 5 ай бұрын
Obuya brian, you and some of the content creators you fall in the same whatzup group. Ntv is a brand, get your research correct. SDA dont wear long clothing, SDA dont skip meals, SDA seek proper medical services whenever they fall sick, otherwise SDAs have very good hospitals, SDAs take their kids to school furthermore they have good performing school. Dont compare shakahola with SDA religion. So of the things yure saying his high majesty pastor awuor is in a position to answer you. Happy sabbath
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@eternitybeyond9819
@eternitybeyond9819 4 ай бұрын
Iam not adventist.....But i wont judge.....I Pray that God will give you the light.....May God forgive you Brian.
@PaulineGakii-df7bo
@PaulineGakii-df7bo 5 ай бұрын
SDA for ever
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@letstalkfootballworld
@letstalkfootballworld 5 ай бұрын
This is simple, this just a woman depressed she is frustrated by her huband she decides to seek peace in the extremists with the church hoping for her fortunes to turn around nothing to do with SDA as a church.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@clairmorah8073
@clairmorah8073 5 ай бұрын
Remember sda has schools, colleges, universities and they even haven education department in churches .... that was family issues and their own parsonal issues so i wonder if this is a true documentary.... do research before tarnishing names
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@gladysobare6058
@gladysobare6058 5 ай бұрын
Even Jesus was betrayed true Christians will be betrayed during the last days
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@erastusmaina2066
@erastusmaina2066 5 ай бұрын
Sure
@johnkariukimungai5211
@johnkariukimungai5211 5 ай бұрын
The fact that people differ is not shakahola. The story is farfetched by a journalist who hails from an SDA region
@odongoouso
@odongoouso 4 ай бұрын
It is true there are foods that are not supposed to be eaten and this stipulated clearly in the Bible. The clean and Unclean foods.
@mumliznyaori7301
@mumliznyaori7301 4 ай бұрын
How is all this related to the SDA church? Seriously?
@kandisphere8828
@kandisphere8828 4 ай бұрын
This kind of denial and defense by all SDAs in the comment section, that this does not exist, shows how extremism can infiltrate religious communities in Kenya, and some people will be hiding it so that some of their church members do not look bad.
@wendyarunga5428
@wendyarunga5428 5 ай бұрын
Honestly there is no story here.Just tarnishing the name of the SDA church for nothing.Didn’t know journalists can do such useless stories.Ama they also clout chase🤔
@sethodongo8320
@sethodongo8320 5 ай бұрын
Brian Obuya did extremely shoddy investigations and only ended up drawing wrong conclusions which hardly reflect the Seventh Adventist Church. Apart from Engineer Tom Midamba that he interviewed, who has categorically said that the cult is not the Seventh Day Adventist church he grew in and still worships, who else did he interview to make him end with disparaging assumptions about the church? I have always believed in Brian's reporting, but he is proving otherwise that he is a quack masquerading as a professional journalist!
@erictin6305
@erictin6305 5 ай бұрын
😊😊
@mariemaina8355
@mariemaina8355 5 ай бұрын
😂😂enda skia vibaya uko 😅
@EverlynMandelah
@EverlynMandelah 5 ай бұрын
Proud to be a seventh day Adventist.......but please don't include the sdas in thing called investigation
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@jobmogeni6574
@jobmogeni6574 5 ай бұрын
The investigation done is shoddy since it is only based on one bitter man talking about his family which is not a real SDA.
@mariambewa8104
@mariambewa8104 5 ай бұрын
Do this names ring a bell Arati Matiangi Maraga etc
@dennisabuya4511
@dennisabuya4511 4 ай бұрын
Extremely misleading SDA church union should sue for defamation SDA Has numerous Educational institutions around the world.. Additional they have hospital THIS IS SN EXAMPLE OF INCOMPETENT JOURNALISM
@edwinonchwari8922
@edwinonchwari8922 5 ай бұрын
We are indeed in the last days.
@johnnjenga6218
@johnnjenga6218 5 ай бұрын
No wonder NTV is on its death bed because of such poor journalism.
@jasonmokua5008
@jasonmokua5008 5 ай бұрын
I have listened this story and I don't know how the church comes,,,,this is a family issue ,,,,Brian you don't make any sense
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@Mansajohn
@Mansajohn 5 ай бұрын
Read the disclaimer guys
@lameckondieki4756
@lameckondieki4756 4 ай бұрын
Intermmitent fasting(very healthy), decent dressing, missionary work and more. If thats occult, whats not?
@phoenix-rage
@phoenix-rage 4 ай бұрын
This should be pulled down with immediate effect
@MissEllen_254
@MissEllen_254 5 ай бұрын
Im catholic but after listening to this story its not about SDA religion ... There is more deeper secrets in that family than SDA😊.. clearly husband and wife had their own conflicts plus divorce its a family thing ...that was shallow do more research before you air on tv
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@moffatvitv
@moffatvitv 5 ай бұрын
​@@karaniaggrey1😮
@jonaitunga2541
@jonaitunga2541 4 ай бұрын
Let mzee read the bible as reference especially on dressing code and fasting
@omachanionduso
@omachanionduso 5 ай бұрын
Even the guy is saying ths is not like SDA teaching... Her wife is starting a Cult church in the name of SDA to hide
@donaldEvangelist123
@donaldEvangelist123 5 ай бұрын
It's a cause for concern. This religious deviation is dangerous. It looks like the shakahola story at the baby steps, but it can happen to any church not particularly SDA.
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@karaniaggrey1
@karaniaggrey1 5 ай бұрын
SDA church Response to The Holy Betrayal by Brain Obuya kzbin.info/www/bejne/amiwoaWKjNepZpY
@arapmeli6228
@arapmeli6228 5 ай бұрын
Before you're sacked, ask Mohamed Ali how to do investigative journalism.
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