Home Coffee Roasting with the Kaffelogic Review

[@stemazzo84]

I got mine recently and I am super happy with it. By following a preset profile for altitude 1500-2000m I got a fantastic light roast at 1.9 ! an explosion of flavours! Never had better tasting coffee

[@EdySmi]

Update on how it's going? I'm wanting to one day transition to something larger but would like to master a few roasts first. Wondering if this would do it

[@stemazzo84]

@@EdySmi I still fully recommend this awesome little roaster!

[@morganlauter_tun431]

Great content as usual. Reminds me of the popcorn maker we used to have. Same principle I suppose but with some temp control and the chaff collector.

[@kyoshimadoshi]

Exactly. A popcorn maker with a PID.

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Imagine the popcorn you could make! 👌

[@michellet2890]

And cost 1000 time more

[@TheMinimee321]

Love all the content you guys have been putting out, keep up the good work!

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Thanks! Will do!

[@indio4412]

Very informative do with the roasting product but you stated they were Brazilian beans before cupping, but after you said they were Colombian and again mentioned Brazilian for the 3.5, so which one was it?

[@wayno5655]

nice video and commentary thank you. This is a smart machine and seems to do exactly what's needed.

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@danlarwood4068]

Cool video! full of useful info. Thanks 😁

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@aussiehomecafeandcoffeeroa4475]

Love to see a review on the Gene cafe CBR 101

[@LightZone9]

The roast chamber looks very much like an air popcorn popper from Nostalgia.

[@unclonghorn]

I thought the same when I saw this

[@stemazzo84]

@@unclonghorn trust me, it’s a completely different ball game. I recently switched to the Kaffelogic from a Severin Hot Air Popcorn popper (best in europe for coffee roasting) and this roaster is impressively good. Even on light roasts which are the most difficult to achieve, the roast looks so even and tastes incredible. I had coffee tastier than in my favorite micro roastery! an explosion of flavors!

[@KMD270]

Hey! I fixed that like button for you.. 😁

[@AlternativeBrewing]

hahaha 😂 Someone had to! Awesome, you're the best, thank you!

[@stemazzo84]

Thanks for the review! Would you say this is really comparable to the IKAWA PRO, in terms of achievable flavors ?

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Yes, absolutely in the right hands, it's capable of that control. The IKAWA Pro, perhaps does it a little cleaner - being half the batch weight too - and is more user friendly but the Kaffelogic's software and is parallel to the Ikawas

[@stemazzo84]

@@AlternativeBrewing thanks! I wonder if they’ll ever have an app also!

[@stemazzo84]

@@AlternativeBrewing and...my unit is on the way to Dubai!

[@keithpoolehomecoffeeroasti489]

So was the bean a Colombian or Brazil? Great video, very interested in seeing the US version.

[@AlternativeBrewing]

There were both - I used a Colombian in the video

[@AlternativeBrewing]

@Andre D thanks Im so sorry 🤦not blaming spell check on this one - just missed it

[@nicholasmatz]

I really like poster in the background

[@DJaquithFL]

Major Rabbit Hole Alert 🚨 .. when considering one of these you know you've reached a level coffee crazy.

[@DR19X]

thanks for sharing. in my opinion, the roaster loses since you cannot control on the fly with phone or pc. you have to do a lot of trial and error to load the perfect profile before you begin.

[@stemazzo84]

Nothing to lose in fact, because this roaster follows exactly the profile you want it to follow, being one of the core profiles or a profile developed by yourself. There’s nothing to adjust on the fly in fact. You can log dry end, first crack and read development time and ROR while you are roasting, as well as the live bean temperature. You can end the roast once you’ve reached the development time you wish.

[@DR19X]

thanks for the info. I found my comment and your reply just now while waiting for this roaster to arrive. funny how things happen in their own time. Do you still like the roaster? I see an upgrade path to ikawa pro one day. maybe a nucleus link in between? I ordered the boost kit as well.@@stemazzo84

[@joshyjoshs237]

Is a ultra light nordic roast achievable with this?

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Yes it would be. You can control temperature and time so these are all you need to design whatever roast you prefer

[@joshyjoshs237]

@@AlternativeBrewing Thanks!

[@tonylawlor8833]

I know the origin of all coffees I buy and I do not roast my own, I buy from a roaster I trust.

[@thealimustafa9119]

Hi! Whats the price point for it?

[@Crazt]

These types of devices have gotten insanely popular in Japan. I've seen them from roughly $200 to about $1000

[@timothytay1080]

The website lists it at $1590 Aud

[@AlternativeBrewing]

Depends on your locality

[@GlenEdwards]

that would look great sitting beside the Anfim grinder. They look same same but different

[@AlternativeBrewing]

It does!

[@danlachappelle]

Would be interest at 1/2 the voltage , 120v and 1/2 the price . I just bought a Nesco for $ 79

[@DR19X]

the opposite happened. half the voltage and prices went up.

[@jpbarista3253]

Still don’t understand why home coffee roasters with popcorn popper technology are priced in the thousands when they only make 100g or 200g of coffee in think is ridiculous, anyway appreciate the good video.

[@shanewilson2152]

How much in Australia

[@AlternativeBrewing]

alternativebrewing.com.au/product/kaffelogic-nano-7-benchtop-coffee-roaster/

[@simonluu1661]

Colombian with O, not U.

[@AlternativeBrewing]

omg - Thank you ! apology to all Colombians out there 👌

[@chefalbino]

12:26 what a crap result - sorry - i see big uneveness, tipping, scorcing - that can't taste great.

[@compositecomposure]

Would be interesting to hear some comments from the reviewer on these points.

[@AlternativeBrewing]

no it's fair to say the beans did not look ideal after roasting - I 100% had the same impression about the Ethiopian. But I can't ignore the flavour results. This was just the cupping - I took the rest of the beans home and brewed them on my Flair Espresso Maker 2 - 20g IN / 35sec Flow / 45g OUT and the Espresso's were - I'm not going to say incredible ... but pretty damn tasty for an average roast. Everything in the cupping was present in the espresso with more intensity. - I would want to improve the depth of the coffees flavour -it was very sweet and floral but lacked the body and thus length in the after-taste. It dropped away quite quick, some would say that's clean ... but the real test I guess would be if it could be a repeatable roast without the visible defects 👍

[@keithpoolehomecoffeeroasti489]

Looks pretty much like every light roast on a small batch air roaster, including the $3000 Ikawa. It's all about the taste. I've had plenty of pretty looking beans that are flat and generic.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

I think you're using words like tipping / scorching without actually knowing that is :D Trying to sound professional? It does look uneven with some light and some darker beans, but that's because it's an Ethiopian coffee, which often roasts uneven looking like that, but despite the looks they taste great (usually).

[@danoconnor3720]

Can't buy in USA. Only in Australia or NZ. Costs over $1000 US. Gene Cafe is much better at half the price.

[@compositecomposure]

It’s waaay bigger, so hard to store, will put out more smoke cause you can roast bigger batches and doesn’t do profiling. To me the nano is a way better product for fresh home roasting in small batches. Albeit at a higher price point.

[@danoconnor3720]

@@compositecomposure I had a Gene Cafe for a couple of years till I gave it to my kid. It will roast a 1/2 pound so you don't have to use it as often. Storage not a problem for me. Very simple to use. You can get vent hose for a dryer and attach to vent outside. I just used it on our porch. All roasters have advantages and disadvantages.

[@stevenicoloff6775]

Tastes like crap If you don’t let the beans rest for several days. Anyone know that. But if you grind ahead of time and wait the should be ok. Curious on cost though

[@BensCoffeeRants]

This has a special roast profile that somehow roasts in a way that it actually says it's best to drink within 3 days, the other regular roasts are better after 3 days.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

Also it depends on your brew method, I've roasted coffee and did a pour over the same day and it was really good, whether or not it could be better after a rest is a good question! Some coffees are best with just a few days rest, I've also had some coffees that were kinda meh, and boring until maybe after 3 or 4 weeks!

[@benjaminhildebrand2220]

Within an hour or so... A week's worth? No.

[@makaw2006]

So this is basically a glorified popcorn popper. The idea behind gene cafe is great, why no one is trying to improve that design is beyond me.

[@AlternativeBrewing]

glorified? It does an exceptional job due to its high tech software and programmable parameters. I agree though if you were able to do the same on the Gene Cafe then it would be unbeatable - but I find in terms the ROR and profiling it's a lot of work with the Gene Cafe manually plotting these numbers and working it out

[@makaw2006]

@@AlternativeBrewing I totally understand the appeal of this device, for me though it just looks like a more diy project than a refined product. Nevertheless It would be great to know how it tastes different/similar in the cup compared to gene cafe, ikawa, quest, hottop etc.. because at some point I might give this device a try.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

Different style roaster, there's a lot of these air popper type roasters these days. I'd say the more basic FreshRoast is more like a popcorn maker, but it does give you a larger capacity, cooling cycle and a lot more control vs a popcorn maker. Something like an Ikawa or this is smarter and has repeatable profiles, but also smaller capacity.

[@kjeldschouten-lebbing6260]

I really don't trust the quality from a company that isn't able to construct even a semi-decent website. Also: The prices are too high... Material costs are closer to 200 bucks and add about 200 design and 100 construction costs. Not really worth it.

[@pernordlund5741]

@Kjeld Schouten-lebbing: You don't know what you are talking about! You have to compare this machine with roasters costing at least three times more. It has an very advanced steering mechanism with a PID controller and a temperature probe in the roasting chamber. It's very cleverly programmed. It has an enthusiastic community that helps improving the product. It has a good website and its very easy to come in contact with the support. The software is open source and is available on Windows, Mac and Linux. I have this roaster and I have by now made about 10 roasts so I would say that I have a limited but a good experience this far. Everything in this review is true. I say: It's really worth it! I'm only a consumer and I have absolutely no connection with the manufacturer or economic interests in the product!

[@AlternativeBrewing]

@Kjeld Schouten-lebbing - that's the real review!! For reference of other roasters that have similar in-built software packages - I have extensive experience with the IKAWA Pro Roaster as well - and the are small manufacturing differences - workflow is enhanced in the IKAWA and you can't pair the Kaffelogic to an IPAD like the IKAWA can - to adjust mid-roasts - but that is pretty much it - and you can easily achieve the same roasts using the Kaffelogic, that has twice the Capacity of the IKAWA for a third of the price.

[@shmayazuggot8558]

Using pure maths and the rate of consumption factoring in the cost of medium quality roasted beans from the super market v 1kg high quality green beans from a distributor. This machine will start saving me dollars after the 8th month and taste a whole lot better!

[@BensCoffeeRants]

If it's so easy, make your own and charge $600 for it, and I will buy it :D Make sure the the profiling customization software is good too. I'd also like an upgraded 300-550g capacity. Thanks.

[@mrutan6055]

Looks about like a$200 machine think the Behmor is better at $400

[@BensCoffeeRants]

We wish it was $200