Home Inspection uncovers structural issues in brand-new Oshawa home.

[@lemans3507]

The building inspector needs to be fired.

[@robertstanley980]

Most inspectors are trash

[@imdeplorable2241]

Bingo. The engineer and contractor, too. There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for that.

[@ryantracey8574]

​​@@imdeplorable2241 engineer draws the plans and isn't responsible for them not being followed and all plans specifically state that it's on the contractors to make proper corrections as needed since all construction has it's own problems, as far as the contractor who hired the framers he did what we call an inspection, meaning he scheduled a "professional" inspector from the city to you know inspect everything and make sure everything was upto code and safe, general contractors are called general contractors for a reason as they sub out all the specific contractors to do the work and it's impossible for a single person to catch everything.

[@aredditor4272]

​@The JL not only buddies, he probably didn't even walk the project. I've witnessed that, saw an inspector walk up to the posted paperwork, sign it, and walk away.

[@MegaMantim]

Payoff...

[@bestman7776]

Plot twist: The inspector’s side gig is a framing apprentice

[@twinpeaksinspections]

Haha 😅

[@danieljamesrottweiler581]

C😂😂😂

[@thomasryan8218]

His side gig is taking payoffs.

[@matapendejos9190]

No. But I guarantee he knows a good one.

[@edwardgarcia7176]

Big chance its cheap illegal labor force just saying😅😅😅😅😅

[@jim5712]

Well if that botched that framing and the inspector did not find this in the framing inspection , my next thought would be ..... If you are going to add 1 more verticle ....stop ! The first thing I would do is look at the plans to see what it called for - because I can almost certainly guarantee it looked nothing like that . I have never seen an LVL cut in any manner like that . I would also consult with the architect before I did anything at all . Once you have altered the original framing, you have effectively jeopardized any lawsuit on the builder . Not to mention that I would think that 1 more stud placed there would be like putting a cup of water on a forest fire . My suspicion would be what exactly is under the concrete . One would expect to see some sort of footer under that space . It seems like an awful lot of load to be free floating on a slab . Otherwise why have the LVL in the first place . Why isn't there a color coming from the I beam ? Rather than 1 more 2x4 at the very least a steel floor jack .. what does anyone else think ? I wonder what else was butchered and covered up with drywall . This is a big glaring example of crap building . Those poor homeowners have no clue what they may be in for .

[@zefrum3]

Exactly. Perhaps the framers knew there was no footer and so didnt bother putting a jack stud

[@lostpony4885]

At least.

[@jolookstothestars6358]

Yes!! Thank you! I hope he listened to you. 🙏👍

[@jolookstothestars6358]

It also looks like that is 5 peices of 1/2 OSB and just looks suspicious. I want to see around the other side.

[@yohanathandowns9057]

Here he is, the guy with a brain. If an open beam is this bad, what is covered up?

[@trentw3614]

Does no one realize even the recommended fix in this video is wrong? Placing a stud there still allows compression due to the notch. There should be an approximate 10-12 inch wall there to capture the whole lvl.

[@invictusbp1prop143]

Agreed. I would have said a short wall, actually a bit longer would have been a good fix there. And would make it easier to secure it to the slab with a couple quick bolts as well.

[@jeffzuess9149]

That sounds like a sticking plaster fix.

[@wesman7837]

well you would Jack it back into place BEFORE you cut your trimmer, but yeah everything is better when you don't have tiny little cut up pieces of bottom plate. in that case I usually just glue my plate down because I know if I try to shoot a Hilti into a 4-1/2" green plate it's good to blow apart, maybe 1 cut nail if it's nice wet green plate.

[@ericsw03]

Yea, I figured that notch would likely split the LVL eventually. Unless I'm mistaken, you're not supposed to notch in the middle like that anyway.

[@speedgonzalez489]

What do you mean by a short walk. Do you mean a pony wall? LVLs are designed to make those spans. You don’t put a wall under an lvl. You put a column of maybe two or three studs under each end. The lvl beam then carries the weight. It works just like a header but with a much longer span.

[@frankcox748]

It needs to have a footing under it. A 4" slab is going to blow out over time.

[@michaelfordyce7292]

best comment I saw. Maybe the concrete can support the load, maybe not. Its called a point load and its probably fine but building these days is more about liability than anything else.

[@frankcox748]

@@michaelfordyce7292 saw cutting that floor and digging a 16"x16"x24"deep footer would end anybody worries. Only way I would except the house.

[@michaelfordyce7292]

@@frankcox748 where we are an inspector is going to require an engineering report for something like this. Gone are the days of carpenters making the call, we do what we are told to. I was pointing out that you are asking the right question weather the foundation needs to be looked at. Throwing all the lumber in the world at a problem may not solve the whole problem.

[@stevebabiak6997]

Exactly the comment I came here to post. Those existing posts probably aren’t set in proper footers, and putting any additional stud there would also need to sit on a proper footer and not just the floor as this video’s inspector says near the end of the video.

[@cristopherfrakes1416]

Yeah it needs a peer footing

[@denis77777777]

That is absolutely ridiculous. Can't call them framers, or inspector.🙄

[@Bdigital9482]

That’s what framers do. That’s why they’re framers not carpenters.

[@wesman7837]

​@@Bdigital9482 Yup, we don't have skilled builders anymore we have outsourced the entire building trade to people who don't even speak the language!

[@denis77777777]

@@wesman7837 Or care.

[@JH-tc3yu]

A beam that size probably needs minimum 3" of bearing surface at each end. One single jack stud would not be enough. Not to mention, what's it bearing on at the bottom? just the slab?

[@daneo617]

​@Thomas Jefferson you are dead wrong 1 stud won't do a damn thing it needs an actual post & the duct is in the way. The floor needs to be supported not the notch 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@garyclinton3496]

@Thomas Jefferson lol no, one jack stud isn’t even enough for code for most windows let alone a 24 inch lvl, and a slab is not a proper foundation for a jack. That slab could be only 4 inches with no rebar for all you know. Jacks need proper footings

[@garyclinton3496]

@Thomas Jefferson Holding by lag screws 🤣 I hope you’re not building many houses. You need vertical strength on a horizontal beam, lag screws are not gonna cut it I’m sorry I think you’re the one who doesn’t know what he’s talking about

[@garyclinton3496]

@Thomas Jefferson i don’t need to look it up lol I think you do

[@approots]

Yes, not a good endorsement for home inspection.

[@klincoln80]

It’s hard to believe that any framer would do something that stupid. Unfortunately, we’re living in a time where nobody has work ethic or takes pride in what they do.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Yup people are blaming the inspector, I blame the framer. That's first day crap that you can't use just part of the beam.

[@WestsideCritters]

Framer made his money 💰, and Inspector didn’t catch it ,,,, framer should keep his$ and inspecter should loose his $

[@billrotherham8926]

If they have done that in an obvious location, what have they done where you cannot see it. Framing crew needs to refund the client and the inspector retrained or let go. 🤠 🇬🇧🍻

[@madebyveteran]

​@@WestsideCritters framer should lose at least 50% of his pay so he doesn't cut corners like that again

[@jsb7546]

Lowest bid.

[@PartTimeYooper]

I assume the framers also did the ductwork???

[@Kushert]

I know, right

[@therealthreadkilla]

LOL, that's what I thought he was going to talk about.

[@jenniferw5095]

That's what I was looking at.

[@slingbart705]

that Octopus not only looks terrible... Yeah that's horse sh_t!

[@ericsw03]

Just drywall around the ducts, and then caulk the gaps. No big deal. /s

[@kevinlawrence1582]

This is framing 101. Load-bearing members need to be supported all the way down. How the framers or the city inspector missed this is astonishing. This is what I do for a living we would have never let this go

[@jackjack4412]

Would it have been fine without the steel beam digging into it?

[@kevinlawrence1582]

@@jackjack4412 No. If the steel beam wasn't even there those members would still have to be supported with two-by-fours or some kind of post all the way down to the ground. But he should have never cut into that LVL that way. When you do that you taking structural strength out of it

[@joeydavis3001]

Steel jack posts would be my go-to

[@poopywelder]

For real my parents house that was built in 84 or 85 had the steel beams with steel post anchored into the concrete

[@moconnell663]

My house is a bit of a freak show, being built of reused materials in 1956, but its central cast iron (not steel) beam and steel columns haven't gone anywhere since the house was built.

[@I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago]

At least a 4x4 minimum in my opinion. I don't see how an extra stud can hold all that weight.

[@allanr2697]

@@poopywelder Same. Parents' house was built in 1988 and it has the steel posts as well

[@the_atomic_punk487]

Hopefully there’s a footer below the slab

[@invictusbp1prop143]

Before beating up in the framer too much, anybody consider that maybe they had it properly supported when they left but the HVAC guys trashed it and threw those 2x6s in there when they finished with their stuff? Adding a stud like he's saying won't do the trick. Best fix would be to build a short 2x6 corner wall with triples on the ends under there so it extends out a foot or so under the steel beam on one side and under the LVL on the other. That way you've got a treated plate sitting on the slab that can be anchor bolted down as well. That will also spread the load across the slab in case the concrete guy was also a slacker and there's no footing there. Thoughts?

[@miscbits6399]

There will be an evidence trail in such a case and the HVAC guys can have their asses sued out of existence

[@Truckandtools]

We see that type of work here in Louisiana often. Mostly related to poor training of workers and investment contractors instead of builder contractors. The city inspectors have to collect engineering reports of all engineered lumber before the inspection so they can see the manufacturers installation guides. Thanks for the video, I am a fan of weekly inspections of the build before scheduling the next payment.

[@twinpeaksinspections]

Sorry to hear, its unfortunate. I posted a new video on this topic if you're interested. Check it out here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGmahpadprCeb6c

[@Swampgurl777]

I’ve actually kicked out a whole bedroom door frame because it was in with brad nails… I kicked carpet before cancer took my lung

[@kencraft4567]

Bingo. Corporation buys land and specs out the homes. Hires multiple contractors based on lowest bid along with project manager straight out of school to tell them what to do. Even better if someone has a son that needs a job. Those contractors can't do the work fast enough to make any money on their weak bid so sub out the work to "framing contractors" to do it even cheaper. Since the framing contractors are actually tied up in other work they throw and ad up and get some desperate guys with no experience. Toss some hammers in their hands and send a 2nd year apprentice (maybe) as lead and you're off to the races. Combine that with understaffed inspectors that get their certs after a few weeks of school and a test, and aforementioned corporation working out a deal to "group inspect" subdivision developments you've got a recipe that bakes a cake like this BS.

[@420JackG]

That's what happens when you cousin fuckers cut the throats of all the unions and ran out all the solid labor... now you all die in collapsed houses made of paste and paper and chinese sheetrock and tied together with aluminum wire.

[@mohawkman2888]

I live just east of Baton Rouge and see, and get called to fix, this sort of thing all the time. Not only do municipal inspectors seem to miss huge mistakes, but private inspectors as well. It's gotten to where I've recently been considering retiring from nearly 40 years of high end custom building to become a private inspector.

[@KingBigBabyJesus]

Should be two if it's over a 10ft span

[@odyoddeller]

Anything over 6ft actually. According to code

[@jcpad1797]

Different states have different requirements

[@KingBigBabyJesus]

Ya thats forsure. 10' is West coast Canukistan rules. It would be nice if there was a more universal code

[@odyoddeller]

@@jcpad1797 well considering he’s in Canada….. and their snow load requirements are going to be higher than anything in the states I’m going to go ahead and assume they’re doing at least a 30lb per sqft load rating which would require 2 jack studs

[@didgejamman]

@@odyoddeller I was thinking two as well. And I’m from TN.

[@court2379]

While I agree with your requirement to fix it, it may actually be fine structurally. Though the wall and things above may have cracked. The shear load at the end of a uniformly loaded beam is usually far less than the bending stress that occurs in the middle of the beam.

[@ThomasMcKay89]

From Oshawa, left about 15 years ago (Peterborough, then out of the country in 2016). I actually cry when I return to Oshawa, driving through the ocean of new 'construction' in North Oshawa -- it's completely void of character, I don't recognize the place, and it's entirely depressing. I'm not surprised to see this shoddy work, it's exactly what I expect, seeing how quickly these developments are built out. What a shame. People need a place to live, keep the mirage of home ownership alive in Southern Ontario, the GTA in particular, but this isn't the way 😞

[@frankmurphy5]

I live near London and all these new builds are such an eyesore. Stark white with black trim, others all grey. Stuff like that. Pretty ugly.

[@timsharp2451]

Hopefully there's some sort of pad thickening in the floor under the posts...

[@JasonW.]

Unlikely, that would take effort

[@xman4328]

There should be extra footing in the foundation but I doubt it looking at that mess..

[@invictusbp1prop143]

​@XMan The concrete guy could have been a rockstar so you can't assume that since the framer sucks that every other trade did too. If it was engineered, there would have been a pier or reinforced footing there to catch that load. Guarantee there's nothing anchoring the existing sad attempt at a column. Best thing would be to build a 2x6 corner wall that extends out like a foot each way with triples under both the steel beam and the LVL. That would allow for a little space between studs to anchor bolt a treated plate to the slab.

[@xman4328]

@@invictusbp1prop143 Anyone that allowed or made that mess, did not hire any quality subs..

[@MrManAmong]

Seriously it’s WAY more work to notch that out than it woulda been to put another stud in. That’s damn near criminal right there.

[@ashemarsh699]

The notch was unavoidable at some point it was aparent a messurement was off he is saying since they notched it now this is a solution to the notch its not one for the other

[@johnbagewll2321]

They still would have had to notch it even with a jack.

[@HaimTabibi]

Darn near criminal. Builders are always trying to threaten lawsuit against town building inspectors for being too picky.

[@BlankBrain]

Chainsaw.

[@drbichat5229]

That’s not laziness, it’s negligence and ignorance

[@hjagger]

That LVL should be supported on a column not a timber stud and fixed to a footing depending on the thickness of the slab.

[@billeh3511]

That is just inexperienced not lazy and that would be the only way to put that beam with 2 by 6 underneath it Crazy

[@penelopelgoss2520]

No, not lazy. The plans should show proper structural items, framing, and footings to create the support allowed to carry the structural beam! This was done COMPLETELY incorrect! Take out the stairs and support the structural beam 1st!!! With support footings!!

[@sealstech8087]

I’ve seen some blatant oversights by city inspectors but lord a’ mercy that’s a big “oof”. No permanent damage but I bet they’re gotta have a bunch of trim lines above to re-caulk or paint.

[@cheesedoesgaming6088]

All I know is that if I don’t see a steel pipe or post in any form under my house if it’s open and not a crawl space I don’t trust it.

[@JordanSmith-dj4vx]

I can see where the AC guys cut out the support to run ducting

[@liamfoxy]

This is exactly why I want to build my own simple house. Will it be as nice or fancy as modern homes? Not at all, but I'd rather a simple box design that I personally ensured is as strong as possible than something that looks great but has this under the skin

[@phillhuddleston9445]

That's my plan as well.

[@mikemcgown6362]

I'm with you on that! I'm not a professional but I am a perfectionist.

[@dylanmounsey7515]

Easy fix . My question is does that steel beam run all the way through or is that post holding up the world ?😂

[@chriswiggins4842]

Oh baby the world on two jack studs, quick call the engineer lol

[@dylanmounsey7515]

@@chriswiggins4842 I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not

[@HawkeyePierce1981]

I am wondering the same thing.

[@chriswiggins4842]

@@dylanmounsey7515 lol, definitely scarasm, I really liked the are these holding up the world, bring back memories from my childhood

[@pukeschannel6882]

;You made a very good point,,, and the moron that did this post,...as well as everybody reading it and making replies afterward....have no idea. #1) The post is likely NOT on a foundation at all. #2) The lvl beam hanging on the steel is LVL, not regular lumber,..and is likely NOT going to split where they made the slot) I would suspect you could pull the post,....attack 2 tons to the bottom half of the lvl beam,.. and nothing would happen. If it were me I would probably use a hangar off thet steel beam.

[@jimpie231]

I don’t think a 2x4 would be enough, I would do 4x6” and tie together with at least 3 … 1/2 or 5/8 bolts with washers and nuts. Check the stairs behind, is it properly supported?

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Yeah 1 2x4 almost certainly isn't enough for a beam that size.

[@ShellSellars-Smith]

Inspection needs to happen at pre-drywall and issues of framing pointed out then. Then about 2 weeks before closing you walk through again with the inspector to address any previous or new issues. Then Day before closing you go back with the inspector again to make sure ALL honeydo's are done and if not you get a 30 day list of honeydos for minor things and if anything major.. you delay closing until the issue is addressed. Make sure you have your own REALTOR who has new home construction experience and knows how to read the building contract. The onsite agent IS NOT your friend. They 100% work for the builder. I have had new construction with missing trusses that had to get an engineer in to prescribe fix with new beam. Then we got a letter that we could show any future buyer. If these buyers went to the new home development without me they would have never caught this issue and then it would have come up when they eventually re-sold it. Make sure you go to new construction with your realtor or make sure you write down their name on the sign in sheet to protect your right to representation.

[@twinpeaksinspections]

You have made some excellent points. Thanks for sharing, it's all too important to use a Realtor and Home Inspector that have your best interests in mind

[@Schism75]

They got it done super fast though!

[@jfarmer9808]

And cheep a bag of rice

[@Schism75]

@@jfarmer9808 I’ve found first wave immigrants aren’t really any cheaper unless a cash deal is made. People are more concerned with the time frame and 80% of the time a fast job isn’t a quality job. Somethings that’s okay, like digging a ditch or something but, your home or vehicle. Needs to be quality.

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Probably took just as long maybe longer than had an experienced framer done it properly! People are slow and lazy these days and don't care about quality either.

[@BlackVibeBallsack]

I think you would need 3 or 4 trimmers, on left and right side each

[@invictusbp1prop143]

That seems excessive, but I might have run a stud the full height like king studs on either side. Although there's not really any lateral force there to worry about like it's gonna get pushed over or something. Securing to the slab would be a bigger issue since it could conceivably be knocked out from under it if somebody's kid and his buddies were playing some basement football or something. Lol

[@twotone3426]

One more "vertical layer" (2x6) will not be sufficient to fix this as beams need a minimum 3.5" end bearing to successfully carry the loads imposed from above. Furthermore, they will need to break the concrete slab and pour a new footing and then add a steel column with a bearing plate wide enough for the steel I-Beam and LVL.

[@maxr382]

look at the far roght beam coming from the back wall. It does not terminate to the front beam. It floats, taked to the side.

[@tiwalterite]

Nah bro those wires are holding it up chill.

[@ald8612]

Builders ALWAYS CHEAP OUT! They only desire to do the BARE MINIMUM. I don't understand why builders are so scummy and fly-by-night business people. I think builders hire anyone who has a hammer and says they're a carpenter or builder. Unfortunately, many are alcoholics. Such a shame.

[@MuddyBubby]

Seeing all these comments as a "builder" for an LLC, and can't believe this is the general idea people have of our profession, when most of the time in my company we take the extra mile to do it right, and spend when we have too even out of pocket if needed to make it good, even cleaning up after the electricians, plumbers, HVAC crews, drywallers if we don't do it, and consistently are trying our best to impress not only the owner but our boss. Although where we live we don't necessarily have so much to safeguard who can do the job, I know that we aren't out here being lazy and wasting material.

[@MuddyBubby]

Took one look at this video and heard my boss say "that ain't worth a broke dick"

[@2paulcoyle]

You don't get what you don't pay for. Most people choke on paying for quality and go for size/house bling. Good trades, agents know who the good builders are. You usually have to wait a year or two to get them.

[@andyderby150]

I know some one who just bought a new house won’t say who, but the whole living room and kitchen floors bounce, cabinets are falling off the walls which are cracking all over, shower tiles are falling to the floor, he should have bought a new mobile home! It built by a very prominent touted company.

[@possumgrits825]

Absolutely get em back to fix it. They knew better. Thank you.

[@XroorX]

Why is the ducting like that too?!?

[@PartTimeYooper]

Relative of the framing crew

[@Nancy-xg9nc]

Many city inspection depts have gone to hell.

[@red2965]

Yep all about the money 💰 💸

[@Nancy-xg9nc]

@@red2965 Yes! I just had a bay window inspected...from his car parked on the street. 🙄

[@HaimTabibi]

Beat down by lawsuits against them and their families by the builders.

[@HaimTabibi]

Beat down by lawsuits against them and their families by the builders.

[@cwally1994]

Unfortunately, you can't set the bearing posts on the slab. Needs to be a footing under the posts. Also, one more vertical 2x4 will not support the weight of the lvl beam and floor framing.

[@reno911yo]

Wish I had an inspector like you man, mine missed so much. Thank you for doing great work

[@patrickcoyne1292]

prime example of the state shouldn’t be in charge of anything.

[@momo1461]

It's in Canada. We have provinces, not states. Also, he said "city building inspector."

[@madvcd]

Dumbest comment ever

[@invictusbp1prop143]

What state does inspections? Cities do building inspections.

[@invictusbp1prop143]

​@NoForum You get what you pay for and there are inspections for a reason. Because nobody gets everything right every time when building a house. And you don't know if it may have been done right by the framers but the HVAC guys may have butchered it and thrown those 2x6s in there when they were done. Stuff like that happens all the time.

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

The inspector either 1. doesn't recognize this flaw and should be fired, 2. did see the flaw but didn't care to report it and should be fired, 3. never even bother to look and, you guessed it, should be fired. When people go to buy a house, especially if it's their first one and they don't know any better, they're relying on the inspector to advocate for them. "Hey man, this roof is going to give you problems in three years. The foundation needs fixing." Stuff like that. By being lazy and not doing his job, the new homeowners get screwed.

[@BlackVibeBallsack]

I live in my parents old house. Built in 1974...it's not big...it's a track home...but I've fixed many things in it...compared to the crap materials they use today...it's solid

[@matjazvoglar6592]

you Americans and your cardboard houses😂😂😂

[@jaycc3365]

I think this is Canada

[@aaronmyers4054]

I think he's boot right there eh?

[@RidgeRunner666]

It's because we have UNSKILLED labor building homes, cheap labor /illegals that have no training / experience they just show up with a hammer and get hired. Gone are the days when you had to learn from a Master in that field for years before you could be trusted to know how to build it right, and I don't just mean in framing. All of the Trades.

[@Re5ist_ance]

I love how you just assume they are "illegals" .. I've worked with tons on "legal" contractors who do produce this same exact crappy work!

[@RidgeRunner666]

@The Traveler I agree with you , but it seems more and more every job I contract out for work the entire team are illegals who don't speak any English and you can't discuss the work with them. I we have lost the skilled tradesmen because there is No teaching of it anymore. Now days you get Joe smoso who thinks he can do everything but really has no trad skills just some guy who needs work.

[@MrFPSWisconsin]

@@Re5ist_ance he is right

[@gtigrl7522]

Thank you for looking out for your customer.

[@jeffreywolf5235]

Nice catch.. almost hidden behind all that ductwork. But I was glad to see it wasn't that flexible insulated leaking garbage.

[@PershingDriver]

If a building inspector signs off on a job like this the city needs to eat the cost of repairs

[@thenext9537]

It’s nuts. I had a built from 1975, took possession of it in 2011. Owner said no issues to that point. I had no issues either, sold it in 2019. Original AC original roof, all I did was update inside (everywhere). A neighbor has house built in 2015, within 2 years, stairs issue, tub leak, roof leak, foundation issue, electrical panel blew. Just shortcuts everywhere. I start looking at houses built before 1980s or 90s and I go “this will be good”. Seems like new builds are so fast they just f everything up quick.

[@stevenrushing334]

My basement load bearing wall was in the wrong location by 4ft. Upper floor was sagging 7/8” in 4’.

[@Official_R_P_A]

The width of that column should match the width of the steel beam. So it really needs 2 more studs under that lvl. The reason is that steel beam is a main support all supports that are not signed off by an engineer need to be completely weight bearing for the total amount of surface to be sure that the beam doesn't shift, bend, distort, or deflect in anyway.

[@erickshannon4173]

Actually, judging by the length of the LVL you need 2 jacks at each end and you should never cut those like that cause it could make it crack all the way thru.

[@drlong08]

what he didn't say is that steel beam is also held up by those 2 2x4's.....

[@MischeifMakerz]

Man its really worth it to get your own inspector these days isn’t it? When i buy a home some day I definitely will. Thanks for the video.

[@chrisbeasley8342]

Not all catch stuff like this. You basically hire them, they tell you everything is fine, you move in, and you start having problems because the inspector did the inspection stoned off his ass

[@torstenkruger7372]

the fact that the beam is supported by a post that any average kickboxer could punch through is just crazy. it all looks just improvised.

[@thesovietguttercat3302]

I find it much more likely, that the ducting guys removed the timber to make life easier on themselves. You can see the ducting would needed to be adjusted as it encroaches on the area where that post should have been. Would be interesting to have a closer look to see if there are nails holes and evidence of a post being there.

[@peternilsson6506]

The 2-ply 2x4 post doesn’t work as a stand alone post either. That will bend under load. Those two 2x4s won’t stay together even if they’re glued and screwed together. It should be a full 4x4 post plus a 2x4 to pick up the LVL. A 4x6 engineered post would probably be even better.

[@SwaggaPhresh5150]

Great catch Inspector

[@yodaiam1000]

There is also a bunch of other issues with the framing of the dropped landing that were missed. This may have been framed after the inspector or engineer left the site.

[@beardy4831]

If that 2x4 post was turned 90 degrees then it would have caught the beam but been in the way of the heat duct. The framers may have had it right but the heating guys changed it to make the duct fit through that space.

[@mattmillen2617]

Open, glaring faults are the tip of the iceberg. I guarantee you that there are shortcuts in construction throughout that structure. "You can't see it from my house." is that contractor's motto.

[@geraldinepebdani2337]

Be careful. If you found this on your own it’s your issue to fix. A home inspector cannot call any code infractions and if they do this they are trying to make extra money. That’s not their job to tell you any code violations. This has to be taken up with the building inspector and the engineer. Depending on what state you live in this is totally acceptable. As a private home owner you can place an extra reinforcing board in their on your own volition.

[@MichaelPace2.0]

I recently bought a house built in 1940. The bones seem solid, but everything that has been added from plumbing, to flooring, to electric has been done so poorly; so much to fix. The shortcuts that people take are so frustrating!

[@martymeunier4862]

You can see the bent over nails the king stud was removed... most likely from the hvac guy who installed the pipe right next to it

[@jakesmith6337]

The LVL doesn’t have wood grain like framing lumber, it’s similar to notching steel, this isn’t the best practice but it’s not going to split.

[@robdavidson993]

No weight on the LVL running parallel with floor joists. Metal I beam holding weight of floor joists. LVL notched and used as furring (?) for some reason. Engineer to verify if necessary for support and to recommend fix if needed.

[@jaywiebe7612]

There's a chunk of new residential in town here like that. Some big company from 6 hours away came and built a pile of houses, grabbed the money and ran. Houses 2-3 years old have doors that won't latch anymore because of sagging issues. No footers under support posts like this one and all manner of things of that nature. Also it turns out the houses are very cold in winter, because apparently after the inspection they swapped out the insulation from R24 which is code, to something much lighter.

[@Dee12327]

I live in Canada, the house I rent was built in 2014, the driveway is sinking, the foundation sunk by the front door and cracked the sidewalk next to my garage, the wall next to the front door has a huge crack where the house is sinking, the basement has huge cracks everywhere.. just to name a few issues.. new houses are junk

[@randyfrakes2284]

Wow, lazy is one word I would use. The problem is that some or most of these building inspectors might nit pick the contractor who found this if he said something about this to him or her. I'm glad this guy is honest and having the problem fixed. Hope there's a footing underneath that post.

[@cory-o-cookies95]

Take pride in your work. These days, I’m just happy to hire a contractor, that leaves me with less problems than I had before they showed up.

[@ericsw03]

No shit. I've wasted more time going behind subs, fixing things they screwed up, than I ever thought I would have to. And sure I could call them back out, but why would I want someone to try to fix something that they couldn't figure out how to do properly the first time?

[@leegraves101]

I’m sure he is proud. Proud of slapping it together and getting out of there and on to the next job.

[@cory-o-cookies95]

@@ericsw03 exactly.

[@WesleySnipes3568]

Point loads don’t generally terminate on a slab either. Seeing that there isn’t any connections on the slab. I would be surprised if there was a footing poured either. Eventually the slab will crack to match the sag in that header.

[@Axle-Mackwithasinglestack]

Building inspectors are strange creatures. Had an inspector, tried to shut down a job, over the placement of 16D framing nails. He said, there's 8 nails in that 2x12 beam every 2 ft, towing the beam into a plate. Those should be lags. We looked at him and the senior carpenter, said "buddy that was installed 25 years ago when they built this place" lmao

[@thomasgranara3463]

Can’t believe that wasn’t caught by inspector.

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

Why? Most are blind and cut corners... But know someone to fix the mistakes they missed!

[@invictusbp1prop143]

​@@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va Ok, so why would he pass it like that if he was trying to get a cut off of getting his buddies work? Doesn't quite make sense there, buddy. Maybe you had a bad inspector that didn't care about his job or something, but that's not how most inspectors roll. ...or maybe you were one of those guys who fails inspections all the time and blames the inspector for their shoddy work so ya like to crack on inspectors...

[@giovannidigitalart]

Def. Always have your own inspector. This is when u don't skimp. Worth every penny.

[@AFS-ht7bg]

Always put the payment in escrow until after it's inspected and approved. By you. Never pay for crappy/illegal work. And make sure you write the contract.

[@thegourmetgolfer5544]

Lazy, negligent, and straight up dangerous. Can't believe someone would do this

[@TreanorBuiltLLC]

A beam that size needs at least a 4 in bearing point 1.5 inch from a stud isn’t enough. It’s better than what it has now but not enough

[@josephdestaubin7426]

Actually, even the 2 x 6 is not the code. There's a saddle it will go underneath the wooden beam and over the top of the steel beam, where it is welded. That's generally what the code requires. Having said that, it didn't actually sag that distance. You can tell it didn't suck because of the narrowness of the notch. The not being fairly tight. Also, there's actually not a lot of load right at that point. Still, code requires that there be a saddle there so it doesn't really matter.

[@michaelrutledge7048]

Depending on the load, that LVL might require 2 or 3 bearing jacks underneath it!! One is not enough!!

[@BA-gn3qb]

I wouldn't want 2x4s holding up my house. Steel jack or I-Beam.👍👍 And how thick is that cement below?

[@rmalus10297]

And people laugh when they're told that building new is a bad choice

[@adil06944]

Ok. That lvl is not carrying the floor above. You can clearly see the joists are above this lvl and rest on the steel beam. The joists carry the floor above and then transfer to the steel beam which then transfers to the column.

[@jbsimmons54]

The strength of that LVL has been destroyed by the notching around steel beam leaving it unsupported to ground. Those two studs are supporting the cross beam in that corner only. Compared to opposite corner to the right, three additional studs are needed to support that LVL without notching it. So, basically that corner would need four studs, nailed or screwed together or a single big post, depending on solution choosen to support the LVL and cross member. I seriously doubt framers followed the engineering drawings, figuring out 'they know better'. Proper footer pours would indicate what should have been there. Can't play around with LVL lumber like that. 😮

[@hopkinshome3799]

There’s more than just that issue - the stubs have other joist on them, where is the lateral support? Post are not tied together, it’s not built as a structural post.

[@bt8143]

I'd like to know if they poured footings large enough to add more support. And... the HVAC and plumbers left a lot to be desired. Strange to see the black hole plug near the end of the return duct. Usually means the ductwork has been cleaned.

[@jasonwhitley6432]

I don’t believe you are correct about this particular situation; however, I would need to see the floor directly above that. I believe that floor you pointed out is a floating secondary floor. If you look closely, you can see the primary floor above it. I believe that floor is serving as some type of landing of some sort, but it is not the primary floor. I know that sounds strange, but that’s why I believe it passed. FYI I could be totally wrong. I just refuse to believe that a framer cut that beam and set it in that floor joist. Nope.

[@twinpeaksinspections]

It's a sunken floor that supports living space, not a landing.

[@mity127]

no pride in work anymore...folks ..good enough is NOT good enough...

[@michaeldavid2894]

The real way to fix that is with a steel Jack a 4 by 4 by quarter inch steel and go to the other side of only supported by two or three studs which is Never Enough in an open room like that

[@robvlob]

It’s scary what you can find in houses that have been inspected, it’s even worse what you can find in houses that haven’t.

[@Pinkybum]

That lvl beam coming into the I-beam could not have been designed that way. The framers probably couldn't understand the drawing.

[@char2805]

Steel beam look like it goes past all the way to the wall. Maybe homeowner made some modifications, added a room upstairs or on left next to the stairs which appears looks like u can't access from there.

[@richardlocke3375]

That’s what happens when framers do exactly what the architects details call for. I have delayed jobs for weeks because of architects bs like this. They only bothered returning calls when I billed them for an alternative engineering review. If we don’t do exactly what architect calls for customer doesn’t have to pay.

[@matthewharvey7167]

Lvl beams can't be notched like that. Wood to concrete posts are not allowed. They should be steel posts. On footers. The whole sunken floor area looks like it wasn't part of the original plan. None of that beam junction would have been approved by any engineer.

[@twinpeaksinspections]

Great comment. Are you a builder?

[@vutube379]

Need more insectors like you. Make em fix it.

[@patrickleigh1523]

I would place low odds on any thickening of the concrete floor under the bearing point. All of the weight sits there.

[@law35penn]

I'm no builder, but by the time he was close enough to see it. I've already noticed it.

[@arnoldtarbooz1420]

As an Engineer, I would slap the builder framer, and the city inspector for this significant failure

[@Jason-ws3cd]

probably not the framers but the hvac guys using that 2x12 to support the return trunk

[@only1muppet]

Forget the framing. That duct work is horrendous, I can’t believe that the architect designed it to be that way. If you ever wanted to finish the basement you’d have a hell of time and ugly looking bump out because someone screwed up the layout in the first place.

[@X-ForceBro]

You have to have more than one more depending on how long the LDL is otherwise the LVL will cut into the wood

[@johnbalzano6588]

A lot of Inspectors are unqualified. I'm an electrical contractor. I called for an inspection a few years back the inspector said i needed to be there. I asked why because i had another job to be on that day. He said he wanted me to remove the panel box cover so he can inspect it. Why don't you do it, i asked. He said he is not qualified. So this idiot who is not qualified to open a box cover is going to tell me wethere i did or did not do something properly.