Hometown Tragedy: The Missing Paperboys | Full Episode | Very Local

A 12-year-old paperboy's disappearance during his Sunday morning route shocks a peaceful Iowa city. Panic sets in when a second paperboy goes missing.
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[@clare1971]

Here in rural area of England I know a dad who follows his 12 year old son on his hour paper route before school so he’s safe as it’s usually dark. He rides his bike and delivers his papers and dad drives a little bit behind watching

[@hamanamanama2263]

Thats sweet, but sad that he has to do this. Completely understandable nowadays

[@stevenprice6957]

Yes these days we are all more cautious.. being born in 1972 I actually remember a time in the 70s where there was no fear here in Australia and our parents just let us roam free for hours and hours. Then I clearly remember a boy been taken and all of a sudden there was a thing called an abduction and us kids had to be carful and parents had to be more careful., To grow up in those changes of times was scary for us kids. From one day being care free to next day being taught even at school that If a stranger approaches you and offers lollies, you say no and never get in his car. Tell your parents or a teacher etc. As a young boy I thought to myself, oh ok it’s not such a good world after all. Wow times have changed. 5 year olds would walk to shops no problem. Not since the early 80s has it been safe.

[@tats7859]

Why doesn't he just drive his son in the car, he's following him anyway??? In 71 when I had a paper route my mom would give me rides on Sunday because they were so thick... and I had many more customers but my weekdays customers they were few and far between and I was in the city. But back then it was a very different world.

[@gib59er56]

Wow. That is serious parenting Clare. I would have been annoyed at twelve, telling my dad to stop babying me!! LOL "You are gonna embarrass me"👀😖

[@margretsims1322]

In 1990 I used to hide behind a tree watching my Son.....

[@LKre-vi5oq]

That woman is amazing. She stood her ground in the face of those idiotic, self-important, threatening and incompetent cops. I wish her some kind of peace.

[@MindShock]

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[@atis9061]

Welcome to small town America

[@saltymurree9779]

Makes you think somehow the police were involved, they they knew something. Whether they were somehow involved with the sex trafficking or, most likely, told to turn a blind eye.

[@annanicole5494]

everyone thought she was so crazy but she never changed her story

[@thestepfordlife2015]

Absolutely

[@meloman4604]

Years ago I lost my beautiful 13 year old daughter to cancer and thought that nothing in life could be worse than that. But loosing a child that way possible with strangers abusing him before disposing of him must be taking it to the next level of nightmare.

[@lilybond6485]

@meloman4604: I’m so sorry for the loss of your daughter. This world isn’t it - isn’t the end. You will be together again.

[@BOLLOCKS1968]

Losing a child under any circumstances is something that most people never fully comprehend ... but losing a child and never being able to comfort them, or hold their hand to reassure them that they are safe and not ever knowing what actually happened to them and only having those thoughts tattooed on your memory forever shreds your soul and rips pieces of your heart out until you find whatever numbs the pain of just having to exist.

[@michellep5933]

I'm so sorry for your loss😔

[@Valerie-oc3kw]

Losing a child hurts. Period. I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad you didn't give up. ❤

[@jeffbryan4019]

Sorry for your loss 🙏

[@J.C...]

I almost got kidnapped one day in grade school. I was about 6 yrs old. Somehow, someone had gotten all of my information and either called or showed up to the school trying to act like a family member, wanting to come get me from school. Thank God that the secretary in the office knew me personally and had a bad feeling about it so she didn't let it happen. Thank God for that woman. I probably wouldn't be here today without her. This was in 1987. We had no clue how they got my information and knew who I was. And knew who my family members were. And knew all about me. Thank God for Ms Bailes. Somebody tried to kidnap me that day and she was smart enough to know it wasn't right.

[@mr.d.572]

Did you thank her?

[@biden_warr3nx767]

So what else happen? Did she call the cops, Did your parents call the cops? Was there a new security policy implemented at the school. There’s more to the story that you’re not telling us.

[@purplelove3666]

She was 6?!

[@purplelove3666]

​@@mr.d.572 she was 6....

[@J.C...]

@@biden_warr3nx767 no there isn't. This was 1987. Way diffent than 2024. There was no "security policy". No one called the cops. Thr dude showed up at my school and tried to check me out. When the secretary went to get my file, you know...because it was 1987 and we had physical files, not info saved on a computer in the cloud....he left. There were no cameras because it was 1987. There nothing more to the story. You just don't understand because youre used to living how we live currently. It wasn't like this in the 1980s. 37 years ago.

[@Silvertip1958]

I had a paper route when I was 12 in 1971. One dark morning a car stopped, the doors flew open and two guys jumped out. I ran through a yard and jumped 3 fences. I could hear them close behind me before I jumped the 2nd fence but never looked back. They quit at the 3rd fence and gave up. I didn’t go home, I went where a knew a police officer sat hiding for speeders. When I was telling him about it, the car pulled out of a side street. He caught them. They went to jail for drunk driving and attempted kidnapping. The cop gave me a 2’ long copper cable wrapped with a handle. He said next beat the hell out of them.

[@spencerobrien2240]

Good story

[@alysononoahu8702]

Holy cow so many creepy killers out there in the early 70s.Well , ever since I should say thank god you've got away gasp

[@EugeneKennedy-xv1tq]

You did the right thing to run your here if you had stood your ground and tried to take on two men you probably wouldn't be.

[@realretrorelapse]

Really? How would kidnappers think they could bring a kicking and screaming child back over 2 fences with them? I mean, if they caught you after the 2nd fence? You would think they would give up after the first fence as the logistics of the entire crime would be far too difficult and loud by that point.

[@Dawn-we7vd]

Scary! Glad you got away!

[@mrs.r.2165]

Johnny's mom has never given up and has done so much work to bring children home. I admire her strength and bravery.

[@isap9535]

don't quote me on this but I remember a documentary where she appeared in were they talked about him coming back to her as an adult and telling her to stop looking for him. I cannot remember the name of the documentary but the story sounded so familiar, when I saw her it just hit me up was the lady from the documentary. Now I don't know how true it is that her son came back to her, but I do remember they talked about it in the documentary. It also had to do something with a youth camp where they would send troubled kids . I know these two things don't have nothing to do with each other but in the documentary there was a link between Johnny and some of the victims from the camp.

[@CM-ho5ic]

​@@isap9535l remember that story, it was odd & so many unanswered questions. Didn't that missing young boy show up & disappeared again?

[@KateBates22zabu]

Yes Noreen said Johnny came late at night & begged her to stop. Noreen demanded to see a birthmark or scar and Jonny complied.. It was him. Then during G. W Bush term there was Jeff Gannon throwing softball questions at a press conference. Ppl claim Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch. It's also discussed in the *"Franklin Report"* on child S/Ab use in Boys Town. The pedophilia went straight to the White House continued under Obama..and bidn the child hair sniffer!?

[@Lsmc7]

You are so right. She is a mother, in the truest sense of the word...I believe that God has Johnny and I choose to believe that his spirit is guiding his mother to do what she has done for him and the millions of children and their families, is as close to spiritual guidance you could ask for! Johnny was meant for this journey. He is a hero and was given to us by his beautiful parents to reach places that no one before him had reached. There are no words to say how grateful I am for them and the suffering they endured so we could have a better world. Much love to this family ❤

[@KateBates22zabu]

@@Lsmc7 I agree she's the best of mothers but Johnny is alive last I heard.

[@Sara-rc4mn]

There's nothing worse to have useless and unhelpful law enforcement searching for a child.

[@maxalberts2003]

Add incompetent to the mix and you've got yourself a recipe for catastrophe.

[@sweetbeauty2153]

​@@maxalberts2003Precisely!😣

[@kateruterbories2692]

I don't think they were useless and unhelpful. I think they were involved.

[@melissadavis225]

Truth ❤😢

[@melissadavis225]

​@@maxalberts2003 very true..

[@royalmichaels1289]

THIS is my childhood... I am a bit younger than Johnny and Eugene but I had a paper route in the area at the time and Noreen came to speak to a small group of parents at my school including my mom. Des Moines was safe but West Des Moines was a high end suburb of Des Moines. For a kid to go missing in these neighborhoods was unheard of! What no one counted on was Noreen. The strongest, bravest warrior I've ever even heard of. Noreen gave up EVERYTHING! Her standing in the community, her family, her sanity, her life. No one has done more investigating than Noreen and as his mother... Well I ALWAYS believed Noreen. When she claims sex trafficking, not only would the fine people of Iowa consider it absurd but now we are talking about little boys. There is no way they would even consider it. The pd and media turned Noreen into a nut who went crazy when her son went missing. But I knew all along if anyone knew it was Noreen. Fast forward to the present time: Mollie Tibbits is murdered and an illegal immigrant is arrested. Just before the trial begins Xavier Harrllson goes missing.... A ten year old from the same area. They search for the boy for three days then stop looking for a kid! Almost a year later, his body is found in a field another year goes by and no autopsy no person of interest. Well during the trial the immigrant tells a crazy story about how he was forced at gunpoint to dump a body. Several independent witnesses come forward implicating the same people. By this time Rivera was found guilty but hadn't been sentenced. At this point they request the FBI opens their three year file on a child sex trafficking ring ... The people implicated with Mollie. The feds claim ongoing investigation and he is sentenced to life. So come to find out, Xavier's mother was dating the main guy implicTed in the Mollie case and the sex trafficking ring. Its been a year or two? No one is asking questions about a ten year old child. No one is looking for a suspect. They haven't even released cause of death. The interstates cross here. We are in the middle of the country in an area where people's guards are down. We need REAL help here. Not anyone connected to the elites or the government. Someone without an agenda and the courage to take this on and the power to not be deterred. You grew up with heroes and I grew up watching Noreen. Thank you so very much, the video was well done.

[@kalalooney5964]

So I watched the Mollie Tibbits trial from start to verdict..all whilst engaging in the live chat. I think I was in the very small group of people who didn't think they could prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt but some who were in agreement with that, changed their minds when he took the stand..for me, it only added to the suspiciousness of the whole thing! Especially with the guy who's property Mollie was found on being a convicted predator and the bf's lousy alibi...I believe revira was set up..then to find out that missing child was found in the same area yet they still convicted? Seems there is some powerful people who made sure it went a certain way! Poor guy didn't stand a chance! He was so credible imo and no way did he kill Mollie! My heart breaks for the families, mom especially, having no answers and therefore not being able to grieve..horrific

[@royalmichaels1289]

@@kalalooney5964 I am impressed with your insight. what kind of investigation NEVER interviews the boyfriend she lived with in person I'm telling you I am right here right now grew up hwre have kids her age. After the verdict is when it got interesting. To see the prosecutor fight so hard to sentence a knowingly innocent man was sickening. For all my true crime/conspiracy fans and friends who can actually think for themselves, I can prove my case in one simple fact. If you are a murderer on trial for your life and you want to convince a jury that you didn't do it, you could literally make up anything you want, the possibilities are endless, right? Why in the actual F would you tell the most unbelievable story possible? You wouldn't. That story is so crazy there is no way it isn't true. We are small town Iowa, home of "good ole boys club." Don't think they won't protect each other to any length. As for the family it must be so hard to see outside the grief pain and outrage. My heart def goes out to them. Great observations!

[@mazhansen8804]

Yep there seems to be a huge cover up. It has to be "the powers that be" that are involved in this ring. Otherwise someone would do something. The President should intervene ,but there are big questions about his involvement in the same sort of thing. If the FBI won't chase it up, then what does that say about them. With Epstein & all of the people at the top he is connected to, Even Phil Collins,Bill Clinton, Bono ( from U2), we need to do a spring cleaning of this world. If there's a rumour, you can bet it's true. I hope his family finally gets justice. We need to rid the world of this scum

[@2degucitas]

Neighborhood Watch. Every neighborhood! Have police come give talks and updates.

[@dth3252]

As a person who is certainly about the same age and grew up in the same location, i can 100% attest to everything stated here as factual. Even the insight is 100%

[@MiaDeCristofaro]

"For me, he's always been 12 years old." What a gut punch.

[@anjoleeeickhoff6800]

That was a gut punch for me too. Beyond heartbreaking what they’ve went through.

[@jimwatson4513]

As a boy in the 1950's ,my cousin 11 y.o. had a paper rout near D.C. We were about the same age , but one day my cousin asked me to join him on the rout , 80 papers to deliver !! We folded papers 30 minutes ,then started out !! 4:00 AM. We spotted a dark car driving super slow past us about 3 times !! In the 50's it was a safe time for kids out at night . But my cousin & I knew , & felt danger lerking !!!! Safety in numbers , we told our parents , we had adults accompany us then !!! But a boy alone is totally helpless to fight off an evil man !!! We kept the route for a year , then worked as bag boys at a food store . Today the streets are dangerous in day time , Bad people are really out there !!!!

[@clairewilson3278]

I was born in 83 so grew up in 90s still alot safer than now I'd loved to grown up in 50s thou just love that era

[@belfastlad55]

Very touched by this

[@mycat2230]

@@clairewilson3278Having known the fifties til now, I have to remind you that there was great fear and pain in that time as well; very hidden...the last remnants of Puritan and Victorian manners and social code. Most people get their view of the fifties from old television and movies of that era.

[@coreyflood6661]

the world has never been a safe place doesn't matter what decade it was there's always evil lurking around crazy world we live in

[@AAGJLMOSY]

It wasn't safer, you just didn't have all the ease of access to news like we do now.

[@jamesr1703]

This reminds me of the Jacob Wetterling case in Minnesota. It took 30 years to find out that he was killed 15 minutes, after he was abducted by the first man the police interviewed. It was a haunting case. I'm so glad that his parents were alive to get closer. May he rest in peace.

[@Alie182]

Horrible case. Just awful.

[@BASEBALLHISTOR]

These fukn pedo ri gs need to be stopped

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

I know someone who grew up in Jacob’s town and knew the family. They were about the same age. My friend was terrified.

[@michillene]

James R I ALWYAS FOLLWED JACOB'S CASE, SUCH A SAD ENDING..

[@olsonkarolynn]

Jacob was kidnapped on October 22, 1989. I remember it like it was yesterday. I live in Mn and I was in my 20's when this happened. It was and still is heart breaking, gutt wrenching story. I am reminded to continue to pray for the wetterling family and friends.

[@cherylemaybury9967]

A parents worst nightmare. I would never have stayed sane if my child had been taken like that. My heart breaks for this mother.😊

[@cathimummery6873]

So sad for mum xo

[@deannekliene2673]

Yea....it's very sad.....

[@josefinevomberg8437]

My thoughts....

[@sonjastanger5858]

@Cheryle Maybury this is heartbreaking 💔😥 🙏🙏🙏

[@LyricMelodySong]

Watch the Movie Changeling with Angelina Jolie. True Story and utterly heartbreaking. I cried and wept! I cannot even imagine as a mother. I won't tell you the ending or any of the Movie. It is worth the watch though. I could only watch it one time. Never again.

[@BostonIce37]

50 years ago I was a teenage girl that loved to run long distances. Saturdays and Sundays I would run the borders of my town and the next but I was never alone. My dad would drive behind me the entire way. He did that because when I was 11 my best friend was abducted. She was stabbed 30 times (in chest and face) raped and tossed along side the road. Luckily a marine was driving by and saw her. She lived because he chose to take immediate action. I tell you this story to remind you these horrible people have been around for a long time. You should never assume your children are safe. We don’t live in a safe world.

[@maryhalverson5713]

Did we ever?

[@trudy-annsmall9600]

So true

[@morganmadison366]

I don't think we ever truly lived in that kind of world.

[@shirleywong9428]

is her story online

[@shirleywong9428]

Boston ice what's ur friends name

[@beckysmuck8771]

My husband and I lived in Buckeye when Johnny was taken. We volunteered to help look for him. They didn't want us. We drove to Des Moines and looked anyway. 😢

[@thepoweroftheoilofjoy]

Who didn't want you to look?

[@carolcote1596]

God Bless for helping

[@dariang4725]

The cops in this case are unbelievably incompetent.

[@gondolin12]

makes you wonder if some rich pervert or politician was involved… maybe even law enforcement

[@Dawn-we7vd]

Why didn’t they want you?

[@shirleyhess-mf7ft]

His mother gives off a very powerful energy and vibe. Even in the earlier interview clips she just radiates strength and resiliency.

[@bicenulge765]

When he disappeared at the football game & was later found under the bleachers, they failed to mention he was under the bleachers with a local police officer. I find that to be very strange & inappropriate especially since the local police seem to have been involved throughout he entire thing.

[@mid70smod17]

And I seriously thought that composite sketch looked just like the cop they interviewed immediately after they showed it! Did anybody else think that??

[@TheMonica82]

Oh, ok.. I kept thinking and looking for a comment about him "missing" at the game! So, I thought he must have known whomever "took" him.. It's Always more to the Story! Thanks for your info..🙏🏽

[@bicenulge765]

@@TheMonica82 there is a very detailed documentary on this case & it’s scary how deep it all was. It was basically a high profile pedo ring involving politicians & they had cover from law enforcement basically like the Epstein situation but the victims were mostly young boys & the more you learn it all makes sense but you might wish you never even knew about it. The “Franklin scandal or coverup” something like that involving Larry king ( not the news guy) but a sick corrupt politician that had local police & media in his pocket. One boy escaped & blew the whistle Paul banaci ( not sure of spelling) he said he was with this boy at places they were held. Most of the kids were executed but some managed to escape & live in hiding never able to return to their families.

[@bicenulge765]

@CCRider they didn’t put that part of her interview in this video for some reason but the unedited interview and just about every time she tells the story of him going missing at the football game, she explains that when they did find him he was under the bleachers with a cop & she thought it was odd but he wasn’t in trouble so she brushed it off it wasn’t until he permanently went missing & she got such odd treatment from authorities that she started to wonder if there was a connection. It’s a pretty prominent piece of what she believes might have happened to her kid & something she questions openly so again seems strange to edit that part out in this video.

[@decodavanwinkle8936]

@@bicenulge765 almost like they TRIED to grab him at the game but failed and then just watched....

[@tamonettX500]

It's pathetic and disgusting the way the police force and FBI treated the family, so dismissive.

[@blacktara3936]

Wonder how they'd respond if it were one of their own children...

[@dfuher968]

"Oh, its just a runaway". So many unsolved cases due to such callous disregard. A kid with no history of running away, of always delivering the papers, his cart found on a corner full of papers and just gone. A runaway???

[@shaunclifton5281]

@dfuher968 Mind-blowing. Such an Evil man to have been so dismissive.

[@veggieeater]

They seemed to have been this way for both cases mentioned in the video. This has me really suspecting someone within the department might have been invovled.

[@MindShock]

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[@traceykinsman7727]

When I was a young girl, our female paper girl disappeared from the corner near our house. She was the daughter of a police officer in the town and there were many rumours for years. about who and why They thought they knew who had done it but with no body, no evidence, no charges. It was about 10 yrs later, someone was out in a wooded area close to town and was puffball hunting and thought it was one of the huge mushrooms and kicked it and realized it was a skull! It was her! And the person they thought did it had stayed in the area, probably thinking he got away with it and he was arrested! It happened in St. Thomas, Ontario, Canada and her name was Kim Fields.

[@CEWIII9873]

Was it you?

[@MariaAbrams]

"Don't shake your finger at me" good lady! This is disgusting, the way the police treated her and that family and they let that boy down. I hate when they say "oh, maybe they ran away," idgaf if you do think they just ran away, you go and find them! These are kids! Idc if they run away every single day, you find them every single time. So awful...when people give false evidence, it doesn't help. It's just false hope that should never happen. I'm sorry for this kid and his family and This whole community.

[@hamms35]

I was a paper boy back in the late 70's and I always had my German shepherd named king with me . The most dangerous part of the job was collecting money at the end of month. There were a lot of paper boys getting robbed. I never ran in to problems because king was a good body guard and he loved going g on my routes.

[@martingarcia4373]

Being 60 now, I too had a paper route. And yes, I had many weird and strange customers. Like the guy who'd be yelling and screaming at his invisible friends. He was mentally not well. I was always scared to collect my weekly money from him! He scared the hell out of me! Eventually he stopped paying his weekly bill so thankfully I was able to stop delivering to him

[@chrisfoster9080]

The toll this took on this poor woman is almost palpable. Her strength is incredible.

[@marisamartin3664]

"Failed to prove his life is in danger!?" How would that be possible when they have no idea what happened to him?

[@margaretbanks8969]

In any case it's surely cops business to investigate and find out what happened not decide what happen before you've investigated.

[@MindShock]

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[@elliepowell1317]

Because they didn't take it seriously. They just kinda gave up. It was sickening. 😠

[@nevergivingup38]

I agree but I also think it's because they had something to do with it 😡 absolutely disgusting.

[@lynbezuidenhout5752]

This is so sad, my heart goes out to those parents of missing children.

[@annavizard970]

Heartbreaking. My sister missing since 2006. It never gets easier, it just slowly hollows you out. My heart goes out to Noreen.

[@lindakirk-vk8zg]

How old was she when she went missing it's been 16 years but I guess you know that

[@annavizard970]

@@lindakirk-vk8zg She was 33 years old, the most beautiful of all of us.

[@elliepowell1317]

I am so so so sorry 😭 that's awful 🥺

[@nevergivingup38]

I hope your family and her loved ones get some closure in time 🙏 I really do. I can't even comprehend that feeling,I'm truly sorry. I hope her beautiful soul and kindness still lives strong today through the people who knew her. Much love from Australia

[@charlieredeemed]

This kid went missing the year that I was born (1982). I'm 41 now. Prayers-up for him, his family and loved ones. God Bless his poor mama.🙏🏼✝️💙👑

[@Gabez82]

Same. Born in ‘82 as well. Heartbreaking.

[@holtridge7337]

Same here. Born in 1982. Some think he is still alive under a different identity. Heartbreaking for sure.

[@ChristinaBonvillian-ni2ji]

I was like 5 years old

[@terripebsworth9623]

And now these predators are running rampant with thousands of children simply vanishing every year.

[@Thatsbannanas-d8c]

Yeah, damn what a horrifying world.

[@blondien6072]

@@Thatsbannanas-d8c I agree it just pisses me off when no one found out who did it.

[@emiliebova]

Disgusting situation.

[@garyfrancis6193]

They have infiltrated the government. So they are covered by authorities.

[@graceyjewels7148]

Courts in the US and Canada are failing crime victims and violent criminals are let on on their own recognizance.

[@jenngraham2012]

I cannot imagine how helpless a parent would feel knowing your child has been kidnapped and on top of that no one believes you?!

[@kevinmcdonald951]

She sold him into sexual slaverly.

[@rightweaponry908]

What an amazing woman! I can't imagine the strength it takes to have your child stolen and have everyone think you are "being dramatic". Imagine having to explain to the police who's salary you pay that you have to follow up on any and all leads because it could be the smallest seemingly insignificant detail that can't break the case. That literally policing 101.

[@sootuckchoong7077]

Sadly, even today, kidnapping I think is still happening, even with the CCTV.

[@Abi-F.-Mejia]

@@sootuckchoong7077 For sure it is happening, not you think it is happening.

[@MindShock]

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[@persephoneszeliga]

Cops are basically useless.

[@wandabanks6756]

@@Abi-F.-Mejia that's what he said: it's still happening

[@wesleybigham2740]

I saw a documentary about this several years ago and the kid that was in prison and said he had apart in Johnnys disappearance later led investigators to a house where he and other kids had been held. He described a room in the crawl space or basement where kids had been held, it turned out to be credible because it was exactly like he described it and there we markings on the wall with dates and kids names etc. so sad.

[@jennyjenga1929]

Yes the owner of the house was a prison guard. A huge pedo.

[@julitt4317]

What a graceful, dignified woman. I have a son named Jonny, and if I had lost him at the age of 12 I think it may have destroyed me. I can't think of the words to say how her beauty, strength and calm touched my heart, and I find myself crying for Jonny and the people who still grieve this beautiful boy. If he had been allowed to live his life I'm sure he would have turned into a beautiful, gracious human, just like his mother. The police should hang their heads in shame.

[@bobbyg9662]

Well said, Thanks

[@stevenprice6957]

It just breaks your heart. You first think as a parent as a father how scary and painful this would be, then you think back to when you were a young boy in 1981. It’s so sad.. 2 boys gone and never found. The parents of these 2 boys shattered forever. Seeing mum here you can still see her pain 42 years on. That is a true monster whoever did this. It’s likely never to be solved which is another tragedy on top of the first nightmare. Painful

[@marisamartin3664]

There is hell- it's real and eternal and God allowed it to exist for a reason. Cruel and violent people.

[@janvdb9258]

Only loose lips or somehow accidentally finding remains. Too bad too many people have preyed upon this mother's grief. She had a break but no one can blame her.

[@jackieo8693]

Let's all pray for answers for this boy and all the missing children.

[@servantLashawn]

Prayer does indeed change things 🙏🏾

[@CEWIII9873]

@@servantLashawn like what? How about this one: Dearest Poseidon, may you grant me calm seas Ramen!

[@gmamose9152]

I am so sorry for these families who are still grieving. Blessings

[@LoriVFenske]

Noreen is an incredible person. Fighting for her son and doing everything possible. She could have just curled up and died. Instead she keeps fighting and helping.❤🙏🏽

[@annalor2045]

Watching this case brought back memories. I arrived in the States in 1988 and wanted to deliver newspapers to earn extra cash. But my mom wouldn't let me because it was too early in the morning. Now looking back, I am so glad my mom didn't let me. My heart goes out to the mom and his family.

[@lmc2375]

Heart wrenching. Noreen Gosch was a beautiful woman, and still is, but you can see what this battle to get help to find her son, did to her. To have him missing was devastation enough, but to be cast off, not taken seriously, no compassion or real effort put forth makes me just livid. I was almost 18 when this happened, wished I was closer to have helped look for him. RIP Johnny Gosch, your parents did more to find you and other kids than that damn Captain did. 💖🙏💫🌍.

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@pamronning]

That is so sad but necessary. The world is so much different today or do we just hear about it? Any way it is this is so heart wrenching

[@hensonlaura]

Heart like a lion, she has.

[@edithcallaway4316]

Everybody has their own coping mechanism and Noreen has had 40yrs of feeling the weight of depression bearing down on her, i think she has done well.

[@lmc2375]

@@edithcallaway4316 I hope you don't think I was suggesting she hadn't done well. My comment was more about what had been done to her.

[@ruthkletke]

Noreen is a hero imo. At the worst possible time in her life she never gave up and is responible for keeping children and future children safe. If your child is killed in an accident then you have the body, funeral and time to grieve. But if he simply vanishes, you are left with nothing 😢and a lifetime of unknowing and daily grief. One tough woman.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Yes, she is! She was in pain and when she found out how many shared her pain, she helped anyway. That’s a hero!

[@rent7142]

Love this woman. Great stuff. Her sons gone but she powers on. Inspiring.

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@empire0]

When I was 5 or 6, a local kid got kidnapped from a playground while his parents played softball. To this day, he's still missing, and every year his family hosts a charity walk to keep his name out there. Not knowing what happened would be so much worse than if they were just killed and found right away

[@sheilastahl633]

This mother knew and she wouldn't take no for an answer. She is a mom everyone should strive to be. God Bless her and her family.

[@MasonThomas_yt]

What about the police incompetence and how unprofessional and dangerous these departments are. It's pitiful

[@greg11786]

was covered up at the highest level of Government.

[@sunitareyes7190]

Maybe involved in the underground sex trafficking told not to get involved

[@ginnymiller2448]

I am only 5 years younger than Johnny Gosch. I remember this case well. I grew up in eastern Iowa, not terribly far from where this happened. His picture was on posters and milk cartons for years after he went missing. His mother has done an incredible job of not letting people forget about him. Those were the good old days when children were commonly allowed to run around and play anywhere in the neighborhood, without adult supervision much of the time. Unfortunately there are monsters that walk among us and those days are long gone. It is appalling that our society has taken so long to accept that child predation and human trafficking are real things, and not every young person who goes missing is a runaway.

[@anthonybranco]

Child predation and human trafficking are run by intelligence agencies and secured by corrupt judges and politicians. When will people wake up and realize this. The more politicians find out about the corruption and get closer to the truth, more richer they find themselves. So, they keep their mouths shut. CIA started using pedophiles to monitor the children of targeted individuals back in the 1960's. They chose vulnerable families, usually poor or new immigrants. They experimented and targeted them using community watch, today it's called intelligence led policing or community policing. The police are clueless about this, they have no idea that the intelligence agencies and national (now transnational) security contractors were and are responsible for much of this problem, even today. It's all protected by high court judges who refuse to reign in on these agencies.

[@farinshore8900]

It never ceases to amaze me how casual cops are about children whose life is in danger. From this case to Uvalde, the complacency of the police is a contributing factor to so many deaths.

[@julieherring7749]

Yep take the summer wells case

[@madeinussr7551]

​@@julieherring7749they believe parents did something to her I think.

[@madeinussr7551]

Uvalde. That brave mother ran to get her boys.

[@kellyholland8136]

It's probably because a lot of cops are into some bad occult stuff

[@Moonlightmoonlight39]

​@@madeinussr7551Indeed . She said that now those authorities had been intimidating and stalking her.

[@sheilathompson1026]

What an amazing and courageous woman Noreen is so full of love for her son and compassion for the other families of missing children. The police could have and should have done more to find Johnny. Such a sad but also inspirational film

[@Cavernvision]

When I was 12-13 years old, I had a paper route(yes, I’m female, and this was in the mid-80’s). One time, I was lured into a man’s apartment (I felt bad for him because he was a foreigner and said he missed his family. I was 12!). Thankfully, he let me go once I told him I didn’t want to kiss him and I didn’t want to be there. I was INCREDIBLY lucky! I know this and think this all of the time. Now, as an American living in Denmark, in one of wealthiest neighbourhoods (my husband and I are not at all wealthy, we just managed to find a place in our price bracket) in Denmark, I’ve been lulled into the false belief that this area is incredibly safe. And it is, don’t get me wrong. But earlier this year, we received a notice about a man in a black car driving around schools,during the end of the school day, and trying to lure children into his car with candy! It just shows that these absolute pieces of sh!t are everywhere!

[@CEWIII9873]

maybe "the man in the black car" was just the husband you turned down in that apartment!

[@TheNeuroticjetfan]

Pedos are everywhere.

[@ChristinaBonvillian-ni2ji]

This was the early 80:s

[@dawnthatcher1412]

And remembering back then, there was no social media platforms or mobile phones. The only resort was relying on the media and the authorities for help. So very frustrating. I really feel for her. Bless her. Unimaginable.

[@therealrhodiemx]

That police chief was just a good old boy and should have never been given that position. To talk about the mother like that in the newspaper, with such callous disregard! Who knows their kids better than a parent

[@raven3729]

I don't understand how they could not take a missing child seriously... It was probably someone on the police force to begin with. My heart breaks for the boys.

[@zeddeka]

Very common in the 80s for missing kids not to be taken seriously, particularly if they were boys. There was a stereotype that they had just run away or were messing about and would be back. There was very little understanding that boys were also vulnerable too.

[@kelly_villalobos]

Because they were a part of it all.

[@chazahnaah3696]

The police was involved. Why silence a mother who was a resident in the community never arrested. Just looking for her son but she gets shunned and told your crazy. Then multiple boys go missing years later same community. They were sex trafficking ppl. We’ve seen this in movies.

[@aleshahansen5871]

I grew up in Iowa on my whole life and I remember paper routes and now, as an adult, I realize how dangerous they actually were. You used to have to go around and do this thing called collecting, which is where you would go to a person's house, usually around dinner time, step inside their house and collect the money for the paperper that they purchased for the week or the month. It's crazy how many people who were dangerous, letting children into their homes. Another crazy thing that I remember is a blue star house. A blue star house was a home that had blue star in the window. Just something that you simply cut out of a newspaper. That signified that the home was a safe haven for a kid to go to if they were in trouble and needed help.how crazy is that you could easily just cut that out of newspaper no matter who you were and post that on your window and a kid thinks that that's a safe place to be. It's astonishing. My heart goes out to the poor family of these children. It's just dreadful and it's disgusting that anybody will take advantage of a child like that and rip them out of their safe home and into the hands of complete and total psychos.

[@juliecreaser878]

I read updated accounts of this case. Pure hell for this mother and father. My jaw is sore from gritting my teeth at the law enforcements reaction

[@casssndrakarakoulas4854]

Pedo cover up

[@brigittebeltran6701]

They were paid off by the political elite!

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@khismet]

Did Johnny at some point contact his mother? He was in hiding after years of predatory abuse.. I don't recall exactly if it Johnny or another guy that was taken as a child.

[@casssndrakarakoulas4854]

@@khismet yes he did show up according to Johnnys mother.

[@davemosko7401]

I delivered papers for 5 years. I was the same age at the same time as this. The world was different back then. We was safe and communities looked out for everyone. Children aren't aloud delivering around here anymore. It's sad these monsters are out there. I'm not sure what happened to the world but my prayers are for it and for these families.

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@Mninoyb]

Always trust a mothers intuition.

[@apersonwhoknows]

Not really.

[@truecrime98]

@@apersonwhoknowsyour a rude troll. Grow up!

[@alwaysdusty]

​Especially since Noreen is nuts.....

[@Lifessweetgifts]

This story spiderwebs out into much a bigger scenario. I went into depth with this about 4 years ago when the information was available. Since taken away because it follows straight into officials that ran this country. And backing. And more kids involved that were shut down before the story could get out. Disgusting. Period.

[@Lumame]

The police in this case is so disgusting. So outrageous, unbelievable

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@kelly_villalobos]

They are part of it all

[@Prof.Tarfeather]

I will never forget YOU Norden Gosh! YOU ARE A HERO! A HERO FOR ALL MISSING CHILDREN ! YOU ARE AN EXAMPLE OF EVERY MOM! NEVER STOP SESRCHING?

[@MindShock]

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[@babettelenz7995]

Wow, what a tragic loss for the families. Thank you for making things better for other families. ❤

[@DorothChrostowski]

What an incredible Mom. Sending prayers with hope and love.

[@deedrathelibra]

This case has haunted me for years. I feel for this family.

[@amaliacancela4104]

It haunted me too cuz she found out he was sold to a sex trafficking That has tie to the government

[@christinesimpson6529]

Did ANYONE question the locals the houses where the red wagon was I'm sure his parents would have but to loose your baby boy but then to have NO back up would have been absolutely shocking this paper tiger police department needed ALL sacked and start again this mother is so gracious and beautiful parents love from Australia xoxo

[@cld3761]

She turned into a nut case. People quit believing her including myself. She could never provide proof to back up anything she said .

[@LLthereistome2024]

I only pray I could be as strong as her, the hell she has gone through. That's awful she had no police to help. These are reasons alot of people have so little trust in the police

[@diouranke]

Yes, they handled the case wrong from the beginning

[@butterfliesandcamo5975]

A "Mother's Intuition" is VERY real. Sadly I know it very well bcuz I felt it when my son was gone😔 My thoughts and prayers are with Johnny's family🙏🙌 Back in the day I used to deliver the evening papers. This could have just as easily have been me. Passing the Johnny Gosch Law was a huge step for his parents to take while still facing the unknown in regards to his disappearance. Many Thanks to them.

[@lisamartin3734]

This is one of the saddest stories 😞 I hope one day the truth will come out about his disappearance. EVERYONE DESERVES CLOSURE

[@cynthiagonzalez658]

I was living in Minnesota when Jacob Weathering went missing, from a small town where ppl don't even usually lock their doors. He was with two friends when he was taken. Everything changed after that. We all knew that no one & no place will ever be safe again.

[@johnfinnie1181]

Didn't the killer get identified? I'm sure I saw a program where the killer is interviewed ( maybe wrong killer) The case was a serial killer taking young boys over Parts of the States & he drove past 3 boys ( 2 were bothers I think) turned knocked them off there bikes, told then to turn around, then told 1 to run then the other BUT the 3rd He took & killed 🤔 it was a cold case till he was convicted. Is this the same person??

[@lamimi1959]

​@@johnfinnie1181 the boy was Jacob Wetterling. The killer admitted his crime.

[@michaelleonard4826]

Wait a minute. The child disappeared during a sporting event, after purchasing food, then the story jumps to waking up in the morning and checking on your son? Wait, this is not making sense.

[@cierahowell8653]

It was her sharing the last memory that she had that struck her as off/different than usual involving Johnny. That is why it was significant to the story. I have always thought that whatever happened it was someone offering Johnny more money or asking him if he wanted to make extra money above his paper route. Noreen is one of the strongest woman who fought hard and without ceasing for her son and so many after her son.

[@jmacfhlannchaidh2653]

Yes he disappeared during sporting event and his dad found him under the bleachers (not sure what that is) , with a police officer, this info is in a longer, non edited interview with the mother according to someone in the comment section.

[@billsmith9249]

I like to watch videos while I multi-task... I am lost so I am turning this off. Why this video wants to time-jump is beyond me.

[@66Bunn]

I'm the same age as Johnny Gosch. Our generation (Gen X) was really the first generation to be taught about kidnappings, stangers, etc. Seeing kids your age on the back of milk cartons, the numerous stories you'd hear on the news, etc. Noreen Gosch is a hero, in my opinion - there were so many police departments that were not equipped to handle these crimes. You have to remember, our generation would hitch-hike as a means of transportation. I remember my brothers hitch-hiking to work. Johnny's story and others like it changed our whole mentality and outlook on just talking to strangers. Also - It's amazing how much young Noreen looks like Daniel LaRusso's mom, Lucille LaRusso, in "Karate Kid"

[@jooliagoolia9959]

Ted Gunderson interview with Noreen many years ago shares souch that was not able to be in the documentary Who Took Johnny. It's hard to find the documentary these days sadly. Noreen has been helping families with missing children ever since. 🌈💜🌈💜🌈

[@BeautifulDove-i7u]

I saw it too

[@KAnderson2020]

Noreen is an amazing woman. Her son looks so much like her. I can't begin to comprehend her suffering.

[@JustMe-gh7ib]

Do not EVER discount a mother who is fearful for her children's safety. Believe her until you have incontrovertable truth to the contrary.

[@despicabledavidshort3806]

I've followed this since the 1st day it became public. I wonder all the time where Johnny is. I believe he's still alive. I believe he was trafficked and I believe he did what he had to to stay alive. I don't think my heart is strong enough to learn what he really endured at this point in my life but I hope Norene finds out. Actually I believe she already knows. God bless you Norene 💙

[@2degucitas]

Are you familiar with Paul Bonacci?

[@MindShock]

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[@2degucitas]

@@MindShock that's a REALLY LONG video!

[@smurfylee]

Apparently he visited her as an adult!

[@rebeccagreen2310]

​@@smurfylee , I have heard that also. I don't know why at that point the mom or family didn't kick the other guy that was Jonny out of the house. I would have literally ties my son to a chair to keep him there. Even if I had to use a gun to get rid of the other guy that was with him at that moment. My son would have been home.

[@saleem956ify]

I pray that no parent goes through such an ordeal.

[@TinaFivesten]

Uhh, this is standard proccedure by the police in every socialistic and fundamentalistic countries. Sweden; 11% of crimes gets prosecuted with convictions!

[@johnnyraymond2532]

Johnny's buried in the basement of somebody's house there was another boy missing around the same time

[@miapdx503]

Thank you for keeping this in our faces. This should be known by everyone. As the mother of two sons, both adults now, this story is horrifying.

[@Sarahurrah9]

Gosh, she has more grace than most. I would have screamed, yelled at law enforcements, gone crazy with this kind of response from the police. I hope they will not have peace because of what they have done to this family.

[@blacknight2149]

She did in her own way. She was like a pit Bull and never gave up. Still hasn’t

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@maryhalverson5713]

It's imperative that everyone watch the old Discovery channel documentary "Franklin Cover up/Conspiracy of Silence" that was banned by (likely complicit) higher ups in the 90s, but can still be found on KZbin, although they often make it difficult.

[@GMZohar14]

Johnny: A 1982 paperboy in Des Moines, Iowa goes missing Eugene Martin: A 1984 paperboy in Des Moines, Iowa goes missing Cops: We don't see any connection between the 2 cases

[@fredrikalarsson3962]

Maybe a work of a serial killer

[@kellydavis6821]

I'm in awe of this woman. What an amazing person and mother. Your son was lucky to have you. ❤

[@ms.sharonsims5106]

Heartbreaking 😔

[@cathimummery6873]

So sorry

[@The_Tiffster]

Noreen is such an inspiration! She has endured an unfathomable amount of pain and still finds the strength to help others💕

[@kimjensen1783]

God bless you, Noreen. Someday, I pray 🙏 that you will get your answers.

[@TG-fq6vy]

I believe Paul Benacie

[@colleenhazlett8738]

Me too.

[@DeborahSutherlandDebinPei]

1982, we were doing everything at a young age independently. I remember this tragedy in other shows. So sad. We've learned a lot as a community and with policing partly due to this case. Someone here mentioned some other documentaries to watch regarding this case. If anyone finds it online, please leave a link.

[@cierahowell8653]

Noreen saying “don’t shake your finger at me” this woman is the strongest and bravest mother

[@rustyshackleford253]

I never understood why it’s considered safe for kids to deliver papers in the early morning hours when nobody is around and anything could happen and the recipients of said papers could be child molesters or kidnappers. On the other hand it’s deemed to dangerous for the same kids to work at McDonald’s or a restaurant where they’re constantly monitored and around adults all day . Makes 0 sense to me . I know he wasn’t delivering in the wee hours but he was alone

[@cld3761]

I had a route from 1973 to 1977. The Tribune was Monday to Friday evening, Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning. My parents never let us do Sunday morning by ourselves. We started in the dark.

[@karate4348]

I was raped age 15 by the assistant manager at Kentucky Fried Yuck Chicken in Australia in the 70's... I was working to pay my way and leave home. I had no idea what this assistant manager was doing... deliberately pretending he was my 'boyfriend'... loving me when actually he was taking my trust and loneliness, my body and friends and just using me... Monsters don't do this stuff. They are ordinary people. They do not look like they would rape or kill children. They are ORDINARY people... and usually children know them and trust them as people who have authority over them... as bosses, boyfriends, girlfriends, teachers, doctors, ALL professions, friends, friends of family, neighbours, aunties, uncles, grandparents, stepfathers, fathers, mothers... Most are men or boys as far as we know.. but I would not be surprised if more women are abusing children (especially their own). People are abusing babies. So what do we do about this? We realise the abuse of children is not done by monsters... It is done by ordinary humans who must be stopped and understood and respected as human because it is no surprise that people abuse children. If we realised how many communities and families, childhoods, organisations are involved in actively networking to abuse children.. and actively networking to cover up evidence and trick and groom and pretend... If we realised how many children have been so terribly treated, then they get on with 'ordinary' life... we would be shocked! We should not be shocked. We should slow down and look around, listen to children... take care to conceive children only when we are sure we have chosen the right people to have them with... So much ignorance... Police know, therapists know... so many people know and the silence is still deafening and cruel and crazy even in this year of 2023. Children. We must respect and care for and love them. Don't leave them alone, but with safe people. Don't just assume you should have children. Children need 24/7 love and a healthy environment. Few people can actually provide that in the modern world which is not natural or healthy for the most part.

[@blacknight2149]

They don’t say it clearly here but his Dad was with him every day he delivered but had something going on that morning. It was not normal for Johnny to be alone

[@margueritesavy4031]

@@cld3761 uh

[@foxibot]

I feel so bad for Noreen. I don’t think Johnny is alive. When they take those kids most don’t survive. Noreen wants to have hope, of course you had Jaycee Dugard and that other kidnap victim that survived, but I think he would have surfaced If he was alive, years ago, I don’t think the conspiracy theories sightings are him.

[@rhondaagaman718]

My parents allowed us kids at a very young age to much freedom because they didn’t want us in the home. I had some terrible things happen to me and now I don’t let my kids far from me. It’s sad to know that in the town that a child disappeared and then it happened again that parents or the paper was so relaxed. I hope the parents get answers.

[@MsTeaRex]

Noreen Gosh wrote a book called Why johnny can't come home. Very compelling. A lot of info. Also ex Senator John DeCamp did an extensive investigation and uncovered very horrific info.

[@BeautifulDove-i7u]

I heard about that

[@WhispersFromTheDark]

I can't believe that these poor Kids were never found. And my heart aches for their Families in what they've gone thru. Knowing that your Kid is missing, perhaps trying to get free from their captures and wanting to return home, and with each day they're gone the chances are less and less of their safe return would be a hell in the minds of those Mom's, Dad's and Grandparents that none of us ever want to imagine. And to pour salt into a gaping open wound, the local police not doing their jobs of putting their case as top priority, and instead allowing their ego stand in the way of the kids safe return is unfathomable.

[@barbarawadley4343]

There was a boy in or near Rockford IL that went missing. I think he was a paperboy too. His name was Joseph Didier. His sister was on my dad's softball team when he went missing. I was about 5. This happened in the early 70s.

[@KQuinn672]

I just looked it up..poor boy killed by truck driver predator.. in fact 48 yrs ago March 4, 1975

[@KQuinn672]

Ya I was 5 too..

[@barbarawadley4343]

@@KQuinn672 Oh wow. Thanks for the info Kelly.

[@bigdaddytrips6197]

​@@barbarawadley4343LOL

[@alwaysdusty]

His killer was caught and died in prison in 2017...

[@addisperez8205]

It's really sad & evil that people would fake sightings of a missing person & get that missing person's family's hopes up.💔

[@ghhtdesfh]

I am the same age as Johnny and I remember this story. I hope he survived this whole thing and I’ve always wondered if that was him who visited his mom years later.

[@BeautifulDove-i7u]

It was

[@PixivityComputerSpecialists]

Were some of the local cops or city leaders involved?

[@shendaraalshedir1933]

This is an incredibly strong, brave and resilient woman. It is beyond heartbreaking though that she has had to be that instead of just a happy loving Mum raising her young son. She will never have peace until she is reunited with her little boy. Every mother will understand that. There are no words for pain and heartache such as this. Rest ln Peace Johnny and Eugene.🌹😔🌹. 🌈☮️🇨🇦

[@MindShock]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHjFhYCQn7dkh68

[@84americanwoman]

This case has always been so bizarre with all of the odd things that happened before, during and after. 😳

[@DCFunBud]

I can’t imagine the pain Mrs. Gosch has suffered as a result of losing her son.

[@servantLashawn]

You protect me from trouble; You surround me with songs of deliverance. *Psalm 32:7* ❤️‍🔥

[@Candlewick14]

If only Jesus had

[@kimdimond5788]

I live in Bridgewater MA, my daughter had a paper route, I was so afraid of someone taking her, I drove her around the route. God bless those families of the paper boys and all of the other missing and exploited children!!

[@myunknownland9272]

I went with my son with the local paper. I found a car went through a red light intentionally. Glad I went with him.

[@stevedingman474]

I was a paper boy on the east side of Des Moines that was the last day I delivered papers . Even though I was about 3 years older and a huge kid I was as big as any adult . There’s a whole story about a 20s couple in a olds convertible red with white top . Who was looking for more routes I met them picking up my evening papers but there were always about 5-6 people picking up papers so I wasn’t afraid . But they didn’t talk too me much like I said I was 15 playing football baseball so I could’ve looked more adult then the others there . I tried to report it but the detective asked a few questions and told me thank you . But there’s a bunch more about this couple and a neighborhood boy that was sexual and a father in the neighborhood was the closest we could grab and he ran after them telling them never too come back here ever next time they wouldn’t walk away . We had great fathers back then that kept a eye on all kids in our neighborhood.

[@ann-mariebaker118]

A living hell. I'm so sorry to those families. I really hope some day they'll both get the closure they need xx

[@morganmadison366]

This was before the Adam Walsh case. His parents brought these cases and the danger to public notice, and that started changing the way missing child cases are handled. Sadly what changed things more was all the dead bodies found in case after case.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

??Adam was killed a year before Johnny .Adam was abducted in July of 1981.

[@Terryhendog]

This reminded me of the kids that were abducted and killed in the Detroit area in the mid 70s