Homeworld 3 Review - Is It The Best In The Series?

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@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

I love Homeworld 3 and it has a lot going for it. Really looking forward to some patches and what the modding community does with it but right now it falls just short of the original greatness. Like the vid? Leave a like and as ever, play nice in the comments, Love Reggie xxx

@sunnyjim1355 6 ай бұрын

For me, when any strategy game errs into being so inflexible that it essentially becomes a 'puzzle game', then it's not for me.

@main_stream_media_is_a_joke 6 ай бұрын

The original HW was and still is an almost perfect story driven rts that gets all parts just right. Its a miracle that despite being relics debut title, it was designed by a team that felt like they had years and years of experience designing and perfecting 3d space rts.....it was THAT good. The original story was simple, heartfelt and pure, the controls very easy to get a hang of, very functional and gritty unit designs, orgasmic soundscapes and utterly jaw dropping galactic backdrops. Even then I had a feeling that the story couldn't be improved upon and that the game was complete and at its peak......and looks like that still holds. From what I have read and heard, HW3 has a more personal story and so not as epic as the original.....which had the weight of survival of your entire race on your shoulder. Maybe it's just me but HW3 also looks too busy and cluttered. For me its not nostalgia but the original just got too many things right, whereas HW3 just isnt giving me a hard boner.

@enkiduo 6 ай бұрын

Purely on a narrative front - HW1 is still one of the best executed narratives in the history of games. HW3's narrative is like okay, I don't think its as good as Deserts of Kharak which i would consider very well executed - its much more compelling and feels a lore more like homeworld to me. Like, I still don't actually know who the bad lady is supposed to be after playing through it twice. The animatics worked a lot better then the 3d cinematics. The total summary is just the use of adagio of strings - HW has this beautiful turning point moment they constructed that kicks the whole game off, and that the player participates in, and then it just lands with the music and just bam total gut punch, beautiful. HW3 has a choral variation on the song which is cool, but it just kind of plays at the start of a mission, it doesn't even really feel like the biggest moment in the story, i guess its one of the bigger moments but its not really that important, and it just plays for a few seconds and then its done and its like okay? That being said I do really like HW3, the gameplay is great, definitely better then HW1 which is a bit plodding, esp in MP.

@Shadowdrag00n 6 ай бұрын

@@enkiduo HW3 had a lot going for it and in my eyes fumbled the ball on the most important part of any Homeworld game, the story and narrative. It's a beautiful game there's no question about that, but it feels like a bland story held together by amazing set piece levels. It also does stuff, then never brings them up again, like the hyperpacing into the asteroid in level two and is never brought up again ever. To the story and narrative, the previous games had the player invested in it HW1 we are behind the crew and want them to make their way home through all the adversities, with the big payoff of the battle for your homeworld in the final level. Cataclysm, we are rooting for the miners throughout the story and backing them with trying to close Pandoras Box on the plague they unleashed accidentally, with their payoff being start of the final level you identify as the Warship compared to the Mining ship in the first mission. HW3 strange things happening in this region of space, old protagonist goes to investigate and doesn't return. New super, super smart protag goes to see what's up, turns out it's a crazy power mad woman enslaving people to her will and wanting to destroy the galaxy to remake it in here image (can we take a sec to just say how dumb that is in any media). Anyway, it should have been aliens or something unknown to expand the story or have something unique, instead, nope just ships that almost look like ours. Also people have been waiting forever for this game and you extra fumble by not putting any easter eggs of previous factions or Kiith in the opening level when they're at Higara??

@Shadowdrag00n 6 ай бұрын

Can we also talk about the ship sizes as well. The mothership is right, but everything under the battleship look kinda off, like the fighters and corvettes are almost the same size and next to the frigates they feel off. Also, why does the interceptor look more to the old Taiidan fighter compared to a Higarian design??

@enkiduo 6 ай бұрын

@@Shadowdrag00n The scaling really drove me crazy - i found there is an option in the settings to turn off non linear scaling that makes that a lot better. I found they really made the mothership feel small, like in every mission there are things bigger then it, its like the 10th biggest ship in the first level. In HW1 its the biggest thing around for a bunch of missions, and then its derelects or other stations bigger then it, it really feels a class above other ships.

@enkiduo 6 ай бұрын

@@Shadowdrag00n "HW3 had a lot going for it and in my eyes fumbled the ball on the most important part of any Homeworld game, the story and narrative. It's a beautiful game there's no question about that, but it feels like a bland story held together by amazing set piece levels. It also does stuff, then never brings them up again, like the hyperpacing into the asteroid in level two and is never brought up again ever." 100% agree. The narrative feels very messy to me, like a lot of modern movies it feels like they just ran with the first draft, it feels like a lot of cuts and rewrites were made but they didn't spend the time properly integrating them. Like I still do not know who the bad lady is - its very awkwardly assembled, and really stands in contrast to HW1 which is just a masterclass in this stuff.

@vulcan4d 6 ай бұрын

The most accurate review ever. Yes worth $20 which is sad to say for a Homeworld game. Denuvo, Eula, day0 DLCs, all just wrong.

@Czecher86 6 ай бұрын

its crap ,not worth 20 bucks

@sunnyjim1355 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant and fair review/appraisal of the game as is. I've watched a few others, and learned more for this one vid than all the others combined. Great work Reggie. 👍

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Too kind mate, appreciate that a lot. Onto the next review we go! Thanks for the support and comment.

@sunnyjim1355 6 ай бұрын

@@cockneygamer At the risk of sounding pedantic, or even in indulging in flattery, my comment is not "too kind" at all - your content is top notch, simple as, my humble friend.

@JohnDoe-iv7yu 6 ай бұрын

CAN NOT believe they F'd this up! This was their BABY! Just like Company of Heroes 2 and Subnautica Sub Zero, how could you possibly screw this up?

@ninochaosdrache3189 6 ай бұрын

Developers just not care anymore or are too high on their own scents and think they can't do no wrong

@MrDominatord7 5 ай бұрын

Gearbox shoehorning stuff in propably

@shady_manox 6 ай бұрын

I don't know, whenever I see a sequel all I can think of is going back one more time to the very original!

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

The only way!

@anasevi9456 6 ай бұрын

actually being able to upgrade ones ships off the main ui via a tiny sub menu; as opposed to another tech-tree to go digging through is vastly superior for RTS games imho. Glad homeworld 3 is trying to stay mostly true to it's roots and not just appeasing to the generic strategy game muscle memory of people who never really played those games much. At least outside of the new control scheme. lol I will have fun figuring out if it really is faster than just using the legacy mode to use shift for 3d movements.

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

So for the review I purposefully played Homeworld remastered a day prior just to see how the controls stacked up to Homeworld 3 and for me it's a huge improvement (I think I am just spatially challenged though!). Good point on the tech tree comment, this I guess is just a preference that is highly subjective so more than fair critique there. Appreciate you taking the time to comment!

@dh8496 6 ай бұрын

Sounds like it needs another six months in the oven (as does every game release these days).

@davfree9732 6 ай бұрын

Sounds like it. The only true review will be the one where all the DLC is released. That being said... It's clear from the concept artwork that there were some major redesigns that were frankly unnecessary... Unless appealing to the stakeholder audience was made a priority.

@musicilike69 6 ай бұрын

They can f off. I am done with this mode of games Co's You want me to pay top dollar for the worst, absolute worst iteration of your game on day 1 release? When logic says if your game comes out in 2024 it actually won't be worth a look 'til 25.

@stunfire 6 ай бұрын

The whole story needs to be scrapted an started again, preferrably with different, less politically inclined, management.

@davfree9732 6 ай бұрын

@@stunfire The truth is starting to emerge. Lin Joyce from Blackbird Interactive is a name to watch out for. It appears much of what HW3 was going to be was scrapped and pushed in a new 'modern era' direction. Glad I held off buying HW3. HW used to be a reliable staple of gaming entertainment but it seems something woke got it's claws into it and gave fleet command resting horse face.

@MrDominatord7 5 ай бұрын

remember: this game got delayed 2 times, it was originally meant to release in q4 of 2022

@l.abuddy23 2 ай бұрын

The mods are the reason why I stuck around for so long.

@agentduck9285 6 ай бұрын

A lot of the problem about the ships being confusing is that this is like the only game in the series with quite this amount of unit similarity, all the ships look visually very similar, which is hellish in battle. Hw1/2 did this much better, with very distinct silhoettes for all the ships. Also, it's got the least *amount* of unit types in the series too, which makes how they managed to make them all so confusingly similar even more weird.

@DragonHalo99 6 ай бұрын

Is it me or do companies not know how to make a good RTS anymore?

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Such a very good point… I wish you were wrong. In saying that, I have high hopes for Falling Frontier!

@DocHuckleberry09 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review Cockney! Really looking forward to picking this one up. Listening to your british humor this morning with my coffee at work is great, keep it up. Cheers

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

You are most welcome mate, glad it was enjoyable. Cheers to you

@jonatanrullman 6 ай бұрын

I seem to recall playing homeworld though I might be confusing it with some similar title. It feels like I was younger than I was in 99 but the timeline fits pretty well with what computer I had. I only recall being super confused and giving up after a while. I may have missed out there.

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Definitely pick up Homeworld Remastered if you get a chance. It’s been overhauled graphically and looks and plays great. It’s probably full price now given the interest in Homeworld 3 but I’ve seen it go on sale for like $5-$10 so worth adding to the catalogue!

@carbonstar9091 6 ай бұрын

I love Homeworld. I know a bunch of talented people worked on this(before they got fired). But I can't lie. It's just not good. The storytelling is baffling and doesnt feel like Homeworld at all. The gameplay is subpar. It lacks content given what they are asking for it. Along with the DRM and DLC nonsense. Given the state of BBI. Gearbox. And their parent companies(which are going through a breakup and restructuring) I don't foresee a major overhaul of the game to fix it.

@Axel-vt8no 6 ай бұрын

The best review I've seen yet for the game. Balanced and accurate.

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

So kind mate, I really appreciate that. Glad you enjoyed. Cheers 🍻

@josephgudge6685 6 ай бұрын

I paid $60 and got 6 Homeworld games for it. So, yes!

@salvatore771 6 ай бұрын

Well everyones entitled to their own opinion, i would give it a 4

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely mate, my opinion is no more valid than anyone else’s! I gave cities skylines 2 a 4 score and that was absolutely shocking… so I couldn’t forgive myself to say this is as bad as that 😂 Thanks for commenting mate!

@ZeNex74 6 ай бұрын

The ai, its w@nk... love it bruv

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Haha… sometimes it’s the simple words that work best

@kieranb7582 6 ай бұрын

Just commentating to help boost your channel and great content 👌

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

You are a Knight among us, thank you mate. The algorithm sure is a fickle beast so I appreciate this no end. Cheers 🍻

@markwalker4823 6 ай бұрын

I'm glad I didn't rush to buy it. I was concerned ages ago when they wanted funding from the community when the game had already been funded. After watching gameplay and cinematics I'm disappointed. The story is meh, I don't like the cinematics, that was a mistake and the gameplay is just a numbers game. It just feels like it doesn't have the spark that all previous titles had. I won't buy this as I'm afraid its not worth the money.

@stunfire 6 ай бұрын

If only the DEI corruption didn't sink it's claws into the game, then maybe the writing and character design would of been worth a damn.

@ryanwade6052 6 ай бұрын

Thanks mate. Bought it as im a hw fan but will leave it for a few months.

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. I do think some mods will bring some fresh life to this so a mart move to let it bake a little more. Thanks for the comment!

@shawnadams1460 6 ай бұрын

@@cockneygamer Oh yes, the modding community will have a BLAST with this. I bought it as I have literally over 300 hours into the remastered version of one and two, and if the modding community had fun with those, I am sure they will with this title.

@siubhan2047 6 ай бұрын

OG HW is one of my top 5 favourite games of all time. It was the atmosphere, story and music that I remember vividly. Blew my mind. This ... thing... does not even come within 17 lightyears of what that experience was like. Thoroughly disappointing. Also, it is "chAmping at the bit", not "chOmping". I don't think I have heard 10 people in my lifetime say it correctly.

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

I am FLOORED… I’ve said my whole life chomping at the bit! My spellchecker on my script kept trying to change it and I’m like “sod off Bill Gates, this is how we say it”. I owe Bill an apology. And thank you for the comment too… great points. HW was so special… my fear is if it’s just us older gamers who see it that way or do younger gamers of today play it and go “wow, this is incredible.”. It was pure copium and my whole of Falling Frontier will be the game to bring it all back.

@siubhan2047 6 ай бұрын

@@cockneygamer think about the premise of the original... The set up. Ignore the gameplay for a moment. Here you are, the only survivors of your race, sent forth into the great unknown, not because of science or a sense of exploration, but because you are alone and have to. You need a home. With that is sown the seeds of desperation, where every new thing you discover on your path is not just a mystery but also an obstacle. When I first encountered the Bentusi I experienced anxiety. Who were they? What did they want? Can they be trusted? OG HW set up the story to make me feel a certain way. It didn't overexplain and left a lot to my imagination. It went in hard on the mystery of space. Remember the graveyard? Now compare HW3. The premise here strips away ALL of that by lowering the stakes entirely. It leans greatly on characters to tell a story extantly, whilst in OG the story was intrinsic... It was US. You the player was not just someone moving along someone else's story. I literally felt like I was part of the remnants. Like it was partly my story. I felt joy when I captured an enemy ship, not because of some feeling of winning, but more a feeling of relief, since I felt I desperately needed all the help I could get. WE needed all the help we could get. It was totally immersive because the story made me feel this. This what is lacking with HW3. I genuinely believe there was a time where games used to do this a lot, because of incredible writing. I-war and especially I-war 2, from around the same era. Totally different games, but with the same sense of awe and desperation. So no, it isn't rose tinted lenses looking back at the past. Games for the most part are just worse now, even though obviously graphics have improved by Miles.

@ajsajs7451 5 ай бұрын

I am just waiting for mods at this point, game felt like a total waste of money.

@Guelo6891 6 ай бұрын

Homeworld 3 is a f6ck1ng cash grab! It's got the Homeworld IP Title, but "Spiritually" it's not Homeworld. It's just a husk.

@phrozac 6 ай бұрын

So I was listening to your complaints on how the game doesn't seem to require much in the way of tactics and strategy, and started to wonder at what difficulty you played at when you mentioned having played at Medium. That's the problem right there. Medium in this game is effectively Easy mode. Play on Hard if you want to be forced to use more skilled play. I can only imagine they made Medium so easy because of the perception that today's gamer is used to easier games. Seems like an error on their part. So yeah, play on Hard.

@horsethi3f 6 ай бұрын

Any idea what changes in Hard Mode? I didn't even know there was a difficulty setting.

@Birdzlitlehelpr 5 ай бұрын

Disagree with a lot of this video. I do really hope mods can fix this game but there is a lot wrong with it especially for return homeworld players. Campaign was meh at best, and way to short for the lack of replay value it has. Story was mostly forgettable except for the fact that ending which was just incredible (not in a good way) *spoilers* They confront space Hitler and decide she just needed a friend. Like wtf, maybe if the first mission of the game wasn't 4 hours ago I would've forgotten, but the one of the first cutscenes is you telling us this person killed millions of not billions of people, and now she just needs a friend?? Tf is that?! Balance is horrendous. The game devs seem to even know this and announce it proudly, by having you kill a capital ship with nothing but interceptors on the 2nd mission of the game. Sorry, but wtf. Why are interceptors a threat at all to capital ships? Wtf is even the point if torpedo frigates when my basic interceptor can kill capital ships? And sure the 2 factions that actually exist have equal footing on ship balance, but it just makes no sense to have big ships at all when tiny vessels can threaten them. Gameplay is all just the same repeating loop. Build resource controller press 1 button for it to go get money for you. Then spam out as much of everything as you can and send at the enemy. Rinse and repeat. That's all. There is no point to using cover, there is no point to building specific strike groups that are specialized. Build whatever you want, build as much as you can and send towards enemy. That's the whole gameplay loop for both campaign and skirmish. War games too but the massively reduces resources you get mean you'll always have less ships than you want and have to bum rush objectives and jump away. Maps available in game are way to cramped which is just wild considering it's set in space. Weapon ranges are laughably close, they might as well be using swords and spears instead of rail guns and ion cannons. The ai as stated in the video is dumb af. But worse than that, it even screws up on basic commands like an attack move order, where a handful of ships race off while the rest get into formation to move together. Oh but then 1 enemy interceptor shows up so the whole formation breaks, then takes another 5 minutes trying form back up to continue moving, so long that another enemy shows up and the same shit happens. Gets to the point where you'll literally tell your entire fleet to instead do a guard command on 1 ship and then normal move that ship so they actually fly correctly. I could go on, but do yourself a favor and just stick with the remaster of the original games, they are much better currently than this one. And I really do hope modders can fix this mess.

@musicilike69 6 ай бұрын

The Steam brigade says it's garbage.

@wolfgangi 6 ай бұрын

Brunette bird lol I don't know why this is so funny

@aaronjohnson2215 6 ай бұрын

They paid you for this?

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

$10k

@henryhamilton4087 6 ай бұрын

Nebulous Fleet Command is a better Homeworld game compared to Homeworld 3

@andrewgoudy676 6 ай бұрын

Left me disappointed. The story was dogshit.

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

I got lost by the second cutscene, which were animated so poorly. They should have just kept the cutscenes in game.

@RichardPhillips1066 6 ай бұрын

The campaign sounds awful ... unsubtle, soap opera and very 2024... ok ..but this supposed to appeal to fans of the original...like ...and ive heard its very Intrusive , taking control away from in missions , ive seen Homeworld nerds say its dumbed, down technically , and ive heard from multi multiple sources, devs are Arseholes , Gearbox the publishers , we know for sure are Horrible , FYI is mixed reviews on steam ...so dont but its expensive and will price drop soon imho

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Totally forgot to call out the price in this review… so yes, it’s very expensive for what it is as an RTS. Thank you for reminding me. Some harsh but fair comments too, can’t say I totally disagree, especially the one about “taking control away”. It does feel like that in a few missions where you’re not really active enough making decisions. Good points mate, thanks for sharing!

@foodomanthemagnificent2650 5 ай бұрын

Don't own it myself, but after my terrible story experience with Hard space: Shipbreaker(also made by BBI), I opt'd to watch a stream of it. Glad I did. Story was no where I expected for a HW game. They basically turned Hyperspace into the force by the end of HW3. I was not happy with it, and I'm thankful to the streamer for saving me quite a few bucks.

@PeterHamiltonz 6 ай бұрын

Solid review, unfortunately. 😢

@cockneygamer 6 ай бұрын

Cheers mate, appreciate it and for taking the time to comment! Cheers 🍻

@vladimir9942 6 ай бұрын

7:03 "Take light-years to get anywhere" - This is how you know you can safely disregard this review.

@Bashelorparty 6 ай бұрын

nope wait for it to go on sale.

@failsafe123123 5 ай бұрын

You are trying to be honest, but... 7/10 for game costing 60 USD with 8 hours long campaign (half of it eaten by cuscenes) and actually very poor mission design (missions are based on cutscenes and pre-set situations), terrible tactical system (select all and full attack...)? I dont understand why someone would like to play this game even if it was worth 30 USD, while it costs twice as much. Game is boring, repetitive, and just copycates some nice things from H1 and H2. There are so much better games out there. I think market moved on, but this franchise took opposite direction.