Homo Erectus: The Shocking Truth About the "Ape Man"

Homo erectus, or "Upright Man," has been upheld as a piece of mankind's "evolutionary history" since its discovery in 1891. But what exactly is this supposed ancestor? How old is it really?
Host Trey and Dr. Jeff Tomkins discuss this vital topic on episode 68 of The Creation Podcast!
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[@RodericGurrola]

Good job 👏🏻

[@stanley1554]

The information i get from this channel is like scaffolding for my faith. I used to have a lot of difficulty finding it within my self to whole heartedly believe in God, not because I didn't want to but because overcoming the brainwashing involving evolution that I had picked up all during my time in secular grade school was just too much of a hurdle. This channel along with Dr. James Tour have cut down those evolutionist arguments so well, that it has helped me to understand that the best explanation for human existence is in fact that we are Gods creation. Amen, thank you for this invaluable gift 🙏🙏

[@larryhorton8384]

Amen brother, you and me both. If you like looking into prophecy and it's incredible accuracy, may I suggest the work of Dr.Chuck Missler also here on KZbin. In hour 13 of his "learn the Bible in 24 hours" series, he goes into the specific prophecies that Christ fulfilled.

[@stanley1554]

@@larryhorton8384 Thank you dear brother. I go to a church here in Norther California (Calvary Chapel) I believe Dr.Missler started this church and at one point they had about 200 churches here on the west coast. Anyhow my pastor of 10 years now started in ministry working with Chuck Missler and he is always telling me stories about how amazing person Chuck was. My pastor started his own branch of Calvary Chapel here in Rocklin California and it is a lovely place. The teaching are very practical and level headed which is what I love about. Thank you for taking the time to respond dear brother. 🙏🙏

[@jonathanrussell1140]

I gather you have a hard time accepting facts. Common amongst YECs 😂

[@jonathanrussell1140]

​@@larryhorton8384brilliant. Take a book full of prophecies and write a few other books that claim the prophecies were fulfilled 😂

[@stanley1554]

@@jonathanrussell1140 yec?

[@megannason3649]

I also love how the average person thinks that stone tools are just a stupid cave man thing. Have you ever really thought about it? First it would require trade to get the correct type of rock such as obsidian whick is volcanic, but also it was highly skilled and took a lot of intelligence. There are a couple guys online who do it and when you watch the skill and precision it takes and the high quality tool that can be produced by it is amazing. I challenge the average person to go make an actually useful shone tool, not just picking up a random rock to try and drive a nail or something, you probably cant do it.

[@Torby4096]

In 1984, I had a "Population Geography" class with a delightful professor with the appropriate name of Blauwelt. As a German speaker, I understood his name immediately (blue world). I was the only creationist in the class. He showed us a photo he had taken of a table with many different kinds of human skulls. "The strange thing about this collection is these are all people who have died since 1990."

[@shirleymiller3041]

I love your program! I am a senior citizen, age 79, with no background in science at all. I love the Lord and I'm fascinated by creation. I love that you make this simple enough for even me to understand! Thank you and God bless you.

[@fredcdobbs.goldmine]

The fact that you have "no background in science at all" is why you are vulnerable to believing this garbage. Please talk to some anthropologists, science museum curators, college professors, etc. This channel is nothing but an indoctrination site, and no educated person believes anything they are preaching. Think for yourself. When you have almost no knowledge, you will believe anything.

[@jonathanrussell1140]

Try obtaining an elementary background in science.

[@clintonm2357]

My brother and I joke that we are cavemen because we both have very heavy brow lines. He acts like one, too.

[@joykeebler1916]

- well Peking man opened a restaurant on location here and called it as The Peking Duck

[@user-zu2zo8ji4n]

❤

[@kinglyzard]

@ 2:30 You cannot draw a definitive line between species. The Australopithicus/Homo line is so fuzzy as not to exist. The change is steady and constant, not sudden and in stages. It's not like Homo habilis molted one day out of Australopithicus afarensis.

[@MrSiloforreal]

Then there should be other species much more closer to Humans than the apes. Don't you think?

[@kinglyzard]

@@MrSiloforreal Not living. Have you heard of niche partitioning?

[@sealer3553]

Good point. If Evolution were true we would expect people with wings, four arms, venom, horns, and a multitude of other mutations.​@@MrSiloforreal

[@shawnmoshos1865]

The evidence doesn't exist because it did not happen the way you suggest. Lucy was a chimp, not an ancestor of humans. Darwinian evolution is a religion of worship of man's imagination.

[@tonycoker6523]

Yeah I got a baboon for a brother does that mean his off spring might turn into Homo Erectus as Evolution says so.

[@akmurf7429]

as far as crisper technology goes, it is neither good nor bad. It is the mind behind the intended use of the tech. Just like a gun. It is neither good nor bad and can be used to save or take lives. It is the intentions of the mind behind the trigger. Mat 24:6-8 talks about wars and rumors of wars (rumors = cold war possibly?) and pestilence. I find myself wondering if we create the pestilence ourselves with this technology. naturally, there has always been pestilence but, Mat 24:7 seems to indicate an increase from the natural occurrence.

[@tristantimothy1004]

Where do u think Covid came from. Obama & Fauchi gave millions to Chinas bioweapons lab & intentionally released it on the world. Just the precurser of much worse to come.

[@joykeebler1916]

- well Java man drank alot of coffee -i(I) met him before at Dunkin' Donuts once

[@johncollins8304]

"So we've got Peking Man.. discovered near Beijing." So, we're not compelled to call it 'Beijing man'? That's good news..😅

[@shawnmoshos1865]

Beijing was called Peking at the time it was found.

[@elijahsanders3547]

I've seen a guy in Bali with a sloped head and huge browridge, doing his thing at a cafe.

[@waynebaker542]

My issue with the random question is that one change might do what is desired, but change other genes because of one letter might be part of two or three genes.

[@joykeebler1916]

- so they are all still here walking around even as today

[@srice6231]

Your podcasts are so interesting! This information never gets old to learn about! I have been reading he ICR book "Creation Basics and Beyond" and it is so good!

[@new_comment]

"evolution" is flipping hilarious 😂😆, it amuses me about like "flat earth"

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

Still waiting for someone who says evolution is a fact to show us who in his family was not human.

[@christopheespic]

Are you serious?!? Wow 🙄.

[@deannesanv8931]

People in my family have done genealogical research, but they haven’t gotten back to a non-human yet. ;)

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@deannesanv8931 so your research has verified Genesis 1 which says God created humans to reperoduce after their kind 😄

[@jonathanrussell1140]

​@@deannesanv8931have the people in your family doing the genealogical research got back to Adam the Hebrew Golem Spell yet?

[@wittwfiii]

Christ does have all authority and He is in control. The eyes of the Lord are in everyplace, beholding the evil and the good. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he shall direct your path.

[@RobertA-oi6hw]

ICR always giving us the lowdown

[@jonathanrussell1140]

"ICR always giving us the lowdown". They can't sink much lower...

[@donaldmonzon1774]

It's aliiiiive.... Crisper Frankenstein type experiments inevitable 😢

[@kathleennorton2228]

Come quickly Jesus!

[@CreationvsEvolution]

Thank you 👏👏👏 love you guys

[@blank-964]

interesting

[@stmcgarret]

Great interview.

[@rocko-go4vf]

so i've never heard anyone put the fact that the human skull, never stops growing. the cheekbones continue to draw back, as the forehead shifts forward. The bible says people use to live to be 900 yrs old. so what would there skull look like if we found one today?

[@ianmonk6211]

Kent hovind discusses this. We can see today as we age our bodies change. Living a major fraction of 900 years there would be a lot more change than we see in our bodies today.

[@rocko-go4vf]

Good day; Hope all is well. I was thinking after posting, I had to heard it somewhere. I like Mr.Hovind, He would be the one, I got that from, Thanks. praying for all my brothers & sisters, For more time to get closer to our Lord Jesus the Christ.

[@waynebaker542]

I heard that Genetic information may have one or more "letters" fit in two or more genetic instrctionsm, so the replacement from "Crisper" may affect more than one gene, It also does impact one's veiw of whetyer te embryonic research is done on umans.

[@kinglyzard]

@ 6:10 and 6:45 Large brow ridges were also a Neanderthal feature. White Europeans are anywhere between 3-6% Neanderthal. Red hair is another feature inherited by Neanderthals. Only Homo sapiens have no brow ridges and possess chins.

[@iriemon1796]

"The original human couple would have had a pristine set of genomes". Upon what basis does he make that astounding statement? What is a "pristine set of genomes"? He starts out with a huge whopper in his very first sentence in a video supposedly about the "shocking truth".

[@infiad1275]

We're devolving with random gene mutations every generation. So yea the original would have to be much more "pristine" than us.

[@iriemon1796]

@@infiad1275 That is not answering my question about the basis for the claim, but merely restating the proposition. How exactly are we "devolving" from gene mutations? If a gene sequence goes from ABDC to ABCD, is that a "de-evolution"? Why? What if we are smarter as a result? Or have better eyesight? Or we have lighter skin? Is that all "de-evolution"? Why?

[@HealthyHabitsPro]

I want to see what genetic materials pulled from Cleopatra’s tomb,under the Egyptian tunnel! Of course once they are done fighting over it…

[@SavedbyGraceAlone1962]

The "ape-man".😂😂😂😂

[@fliegendeskrokodil4369]

Sounds like the next Marvel Hero 😂😂

[@SavedbyGraceAlone1962]

@@fliegendeskrokodil4369 Woke Marvel would probably prefer "trans-ape".😂

[@user-sm5bs1to7q]

Genesis 1: 26, 27! Since then, there have ony been adaptations

[@johncollins8304]

12:25 "..a different species of human, as they (evolutionists) would say." What are some of the 'different species of human😗?

[@vsevolodtokarev]

Homo rudolfensis, Homo ergaster, Homo georgicus, Homo antecessor, Homo cepranensis, Homo rhodesiensis, Homo neanderthalensis, Denisova hominin, and Homo floresiensis. The jury is out whether all of these are individual species, or some of them are subspecies of the others.

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

@@vsevolodtokarev That's why it's called homo xyz and not homo sapiens xyz. Subspecies may hit it better. That there is some variety within the human species isn't really in dispute, except for ideological reasons.

[@johnglad5]

@@vsevolodtokarev Are there any living specimens of all those homo's you listed. If you just have a skull that is all wild conjecture. We could line up hundreds of modern human skulls and deduce they are different species. I've heard academia accepting Neanderthals as a breeding with modern humans. This is congruent with what I've just said.

[@CreationvsEvolution]

​@@mattbrook-lee7732 no offense but we don't just take the word of evolutionists on here. Too much deception and things hidden from view. Just because someone comes on here saying evolution is right doesn't mean we are jumping on your bandwagon.

[@CreationvsEvolution]

​@@mattbrook-lee7732 God's word will always prove true. That much we know for certain.

[@new_comment]

I like the way Kent Hovind puts it. "Around 6000 years ago, God created the heaven and the earth. Around 4000 years ago there was a flood." Just as the Bible says and the archeology shows.

[@vsevolodtokarev]

I am sorry, argument about Nikolay Valuev is a losing one. He has a medical condition called "acromegalia", which explains his apish appearance; when he was much younger, he looked perfectly human. This blooper mares your otherwise excellent presentation.

[@spamm0145]

Certain bones continue to grow throughout a lifespan, including the supraorbital ridge, in the distant past people lived much longer than they do today and so their physical appearance was very different during advanced years to what we experience today with old age being only 80+.

[@flybroon]

Absolute bollocks

[@tonyabrown7796]

Did that disease exist back then? Maybe whoever was fossilised had it. Or doesn't the rest of it fit? Tumours aren't exactly uncommon.

[@philroe2363]

It’s a perfectly good argument. Many creationists have hypothesized that many so-called “human ancestors” actually suffered from dietary/vitamin deficiencies that would have caused deformities. It makes complete sense.

[@vsevolodtokarev]

@@philroe2363"Many creationist" may be hypothesizing, but these two don't: (7:30) "[Dr. Tomkins:] so these features are still found in modern humans [Trey:] just genetic diversity, okay, all right".

[@terminusest5902]

Science is not intended to be perfect. But the scientific process works to improve, test, replicate, develop, debate, compare, demonstrate and respond to knew data. There are many things scientists still do not yet understand. And constantly searching for new evidence. Theories can be proven wrong. This does not mean that the process is all flawed.

[@bennychaves2694]

Reparations required?

[@terminusest5902]

Science is not intended to be perfect. But the scientific process works to improve, test, replicate, develop, demonstrate and respond to knew data. There are many things scientists still do not yet understand. And constantly searching for new evidence. Theories can be proven wrong. This does not mean that the process is all flawed.

[@tony8570]

Was that a talon bone on that femur?! Like a reptile

[@all_bets_on_Ganesh]

Do the talk about dinosaurs on the ark in this one? Im on a binge.

[@deannesanv8931]

They do. I would search their website for articles and books. I’m not sure if there are videos on KZbin, but if there’s a way to search their KZbin videos, you could try it. They definitely do talk about it.

[@johnellingson9224]

No boat needed if Pangaea is true.

[@tristantimothy1004]

John, Why not? Pangia could have been ripped apart in hours under catastrophism. Steady state has NO actual proofs. Just WAGS ( Wild assed guesses) like so much other " science has claimed & then disproven later.

[@stefanfrello2953]

Can't they come up with a paleontologist to commont on paleontology. It is af if it really doesn't matter who you are, or what education you have. Anyone who is a creationist is qualified to comment on anything. And off course he ca't present the data correctly (or honestly). I am not a paleontologist either, but can never the less see through some of his nonsense. He insists in a clear line between the genera Australopithecus and Homo. But if that existed why would creationists disagree so much about the status for some of the species? There are threee major creationist organisations and they differ widely on their position on varius Homo (H.) and Australopithecus (Au.) species. AiG think H. naledi was an Ape while H. rudonfensis, H. habilis and Au. sediba were Human. ICR think H. naledi probably was a Human while H. rudofensis H. habilis and Au. sediba were Apes. ICR think H. naledi, H. habilis and Au sediba were Apes, while H. rudolfensis was a Human. No consensus in sight.

[@Luiz__Silva]

Why do you care about consensus? I don't have to be a specialist in a field to know that evolution isn't real, and all that classification is BS, this it doesn't really matter whether I think one looks more like a human and the other as an ape. Most of the time disproving a lie takes much more effort than actually just making a false claim. Also, it's not like the mainstream scientific community has consensus on anything. And when they do, I'd actually be worried because it usually political and ends up in some really bad stuff. That conversation makes me think about some good questions about consensus: was there consensus about that pig tooth that was classified as part of the missing link? Was there consensus around the Darwinian Eugenics performed by many countries in which they sterilized or killed a lot of people in order to help evolution? I just wonder.

[@ikebetellinglies982]

Yeshua is King!

[@johncollins8304]

"Genome manipulation". Would that have anything to do with the recent mRNA jabs?

[@alantasman8273]

Remember ...if you get the jab...you won't get the C-word.

[@notnilzab1]

sure, crispa used to modify (weaponise) a bat virus and then prepare the antidote through mRNA technology .....

[@user-ny7tn4qs9i]

Pure blood here

[@user-dv6uh5dh9w]

Thanks for having this talk. It is very informative and can be held as truth. I cant understand why eveolutionists can possibly believe what they believe.

[@icrscience]

You're very welcome!

[@psyck]

I can understand. I used to believe it too.

[@deannesanv8931]

They are willingly ignorant.

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

The truth that we are great Apes is shocking to some. Usually the religions are the most shocked by this reality.

[@shawnmoshos1865]

Except that we are not great apes. That is why we are not surprised. Ignrants are surprised to find out that they were duped by liars and worship a religion based on the imaginations of men. It is called Darwinian big bangism.

[@cdc3]

So, what is your epistemology? "Quid es veritas"? Around what framework do you decide what is or is not 'TRVTH"?

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

@@cdc3 How about we start with the assertions I see as being evidently not true until they are proven to be true? Things like miracles, the supernatural, ghosts, and other physics defying feats asserted by unknown humans who lived two thousand years ago? We can add to that things like creation myths. I don't claim to know the truth.I only claim to be either convinced or unconvinced of assertions Or somewhere in between those two. For example Based on all the evidence we have To suggest human beings are responsible for the creation of the watch and the building. I believe human beings are responsible for creating watches and buildings. Based on a lack of evidence to back up the assertions , I don't believe characters from books created the universe or anything else for that matter.

[@betsyb2256]

I didn't know we've decided theory was truth. Another problem is the limits of dating. Now, with new technology added, we have no consensus. Plus we know now fossils can be created in a laboratory in 24 hours. They are created from sudden catastrophic events and not millions of years.

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

@@betsyb2256 Well a theory is the highest confidence we have in something. Science does not determine whether something is true or false science just explains the evidence it observes And again a scientific theory is the highest Confidence science can have, But even scientific theories are subject to change.They are not set in stone like some sort of religious dogma.

[@Healitnow]

The Big Bang Fantasy The only explanation for our being here is an eternal being. Other than that no explanation of our existance can ever be, because at some point all other explanations have to have a beginning and there isn't one, yet we are here. I have a much easier time believing in an eternal God, than to believe the ridiculous explanation that we exploded into existance from either nothing, or a pinhead of matter. I challange all atheistic scientists to take any combination of any elements you want "the size of a pinhead or smaller" and create an explosion that will rock one city block , let alone create an ever-expanding universe. This is pure fantasy. If not let me know when you have assembled the products for your demonstration. By the way, this will never happen because there is no such combination of products to assemble, just atheistic fantasies. Next calculate the entire mass of the universe in molocules and mathmatically condense it into a pinhead size. This will be impossible as highly condensed black holes, which each individually are much larger than a pin head, while having a lot less matter, show us. Mathmaticians will probably run out of space in the pinhead before condensing the volume of the earth, let alone the universe. With this already known, how would a pinhead of matter that would have infinatly more gravity than a black hole ever get a pimple on it, let alone explode. Not even light can escape these gravity dense objects. This is known from our own observations. They show the "Big Bang" to be impossible. The theory is a joke.

[@mattikaronen7728]

I gotto ask. People that listen to this, do you check any other information about the areas they talk about? And when in history do you think your ”God” placed humans on earth? 🤔

[@pistolpig3]

We don’t own God.

[@mattikaronen7728]

@@pistolpig3 you could try to answer the question instead… Or maybe you don’t have an answer? 🙄

[@deannesanv8931]

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

[@mattikaronen7728]

@@deannesanv8931 soo, you believe the Genisis is true, even though it’s demonstrable false? 🤔 How can anyone still believe the bible is true??

[@infiad1275]

I mean you could believe "science" and change your mind about what is true when those theories are proven wrong every few years or just trust in the bible.

[@masterbuilder3166]

Consider, there were once nephilim on the earth. This was why the flood

[@Aengus42]

😆 You guys are getting funnier! Honestly, the word games, mental gymnastics, missuse if stuff you don't understand. It's glorious! I love it. You've kept me entertained gor decades. Honestly, religious people are bad enough indictrinating their kids with their delusions but you colonial theocracy bible literalists are the gold standard of kooks! The sheer weight of evidence you have to ignore is a feat of ignorance unsurpassed in modern times. All so you can cling to the comfort blanket of your late bronze age goat herder's myth! And it's 2024! The view from all these majority atheist countries this side of the pond looking at you homeschooled, hoodwinked, mad as hatters theists make me thankful I'm not a yank. But keep it up guys! I love your contortions, misunderstandings and general atrocious education. It makes us all sniggger (not with you, but at you, of course) and it lightens our lives, entertains us and makes us thankful for being European. Thanks lads! 😆

[@cdc3]

OK, so you've insulted us. What else do you have to offer, or haven't you thought that far? Is "evolution" directed or undirected by some compelling force? How do you know if it's one or the other? Are you aware of the mathematical absurdity of purely chance guided evolution which relies on literally billions of beneficial mutations world wide in each and every species on the planet, each beneficial mutation itself being an incredible mathematical abrogation of probability and often requiring numerous, simultaneous such beneficial changes in a single organism to accomplish the pretended new "advantageous" change? And this repeated over and over and infinitum around the globe? As you say, "it's 2024" (as though the numbers actually mean any sort of "progress" simply because they are bigger than years previous to them). Pray, sir, enlighten us poor kooks...

[@Aengus42]

@@cdc3 Dear oh dear! Haven't you anything new? Imagine a 400 mile drive. Have you any idea of just how precise you have to be steering your car along that narrow path for 400 miles? That level of precision is impossible! Meaning that a mysterious force must guide you. There's no evidence for it whatsoever but look at the numbers! I think this force is called "Magic Woo-Woo" and mathematically speaking, the Magic Woo-Woo must be there. You can't argue with math, now can you? D'you see where you're going wrong? Of course there's no guiding hand steering evolution. If there was then the Giraffe's laryngeal nerve wouldn't take the route it does! (There are millions of such cock-ups in biology caused by evolution not "knowing" where it's going. But you won't look. You're too frightened I'm right. It's all very sad really. Such a waste of time, energy, people and money. Your deity can build universes, poof animals into being etc. but needs our help (and cash) to build homes for himself that he never visits. Not one iota of evidence. Ever. In 2,000 years. Such a waste.

[@theeviltobey]

I love how these trolls follow this channel RELIGIOUSLY on every video just to put these comments trying to scoff at creationism and not even listen to the video. They go under every one else comments too 😂 these people man

[@terminusest5902]

Fossils are rare and difficult to find and most species have not been discovered. But much more information continues to be discovered. Transitional fossils are constantly being discovered. And missing links are being used by Christians intentionally being misused. All life is transitional and trying to survive, adapt and replicate. We are transactional humanoids. Evolution can not be clearly understood with larger animals without considering a modern understanding of the age of the Earth.

[@GeoCalifornian]

/Happily, The Sun Has Set On Evolution.

[@user-ny7tn4qs9i]

Let's look at the teeth

[@alfredadrianjr.4702]

I'll tell you what is shocking! We can all agree that ministry and spreading the Gospel has been an important part of the Church. But when did that start? Also, hasn't it occured to any of you that these ancient people were human beings deserving of salvation? They existed long before The Law was first given to Moses and far longer before the Ascension. Therefore, when did God decide when and what people actually had a soul deserving of salvation? And why didn't God give these paleolithic people a possibility for redemption? Why did he reveal himself 2000 yrs ago as the Son and before this as a "burning bush?" And what of all the people that existed in neolithic cultures before Sumeria and Babylon? Did God simply decide these people were doomed to Hell. Christianity is all very suspiciously nonsensical and irrational.

[@xviewmytubex]

Notice that, the language you use in your comment directly comes from the Bible. Now, study the old testament and you'll find the answers to your inquiries. It's long been answered in the book you borrow your words in your comment from. =).

[@alfredadrianjr.4702]

@@xviewmytubex Nonsense! The Bible doesn't address the fact that the native American Indians or the religious traditions of Hindus existed long before the Jews adopted a Cannanite God. Human beings were around at least 200,000 years before any of the Gods made their appearance. It has been more than 2300 years since Thales started a philosophical and scientific revolution, and yet most people are still craven knuckle heads who have been gifted with technology they hardly understand. The world is spinning into some sort of desperate form of lunacy. I agree that we haven't much time left but don't think for a moment that Jesus is going to save us. Man is the measure of all things. This is more and more true as we come closer and closer to the annihilation of the biosphere. If we continue to sleep walk into the future our children are doomed.

[@deannesanv8931]

As to other people groups… we have records in the Bible mostly of God’s interactions with Israel and the history of Israel. That doesn’t mean that God was not revealing Himself to others as well. In fact, the wise men who went to see the Messiah as a baby somehow knew that the star they had seen was a sign of the king of the Jews being born. It is possible that God told them directly, or somehow relayed the message. A lot more has happened in history in regards to God than is written in the Bible. If it were all recorded, we wouldn’t be able to read it all. God kept it succinct while keeping the parts He determined were necessary and priority for us to know. God is not willing that any should perish. Adam knew God and no doubt passed along what he knew. Whether his descendants did so as well was up to them. We know that Noach also knew God and communicated with Him. No doubt he passed along to his sons what he knew. They were the ancestors of all living humans now, so it was up to them to relay the truth about God. Despite the neglect of many people throughout history, I would not be a bit surprised if God interacted with other people. He loves humans and cares for them.

[@deannesanv8931]

“It was the best of religions; it was the worst of religions. It brought life, love, and compassion to a dark and cruel world. It also brought torture, repression, ignorance, slavery, and death to an innocent world. It burned with Light and Truth. It also burned the Bible and those who believed it. “Those who adhered to it built universities, hospitals, and orphanages. They also justified poverty, exploitation, war, and conquest. They brought food to the hungry, medicine to the sick, work to the destitute, and hope to the hopeless. They filled the earth with contempt for man, contempt for God's creation, and contempt for God. “What is this thing called ‘Christianity’? The Bible does not tell us. The Bible talks about something else.” The Separation of Church and Faith: Copernicus and the Jews by Daniel Gruber page 186

[@alfredadrianjr.4702]

He loves people?! Absurd! Leprosy, toxoplasmosis, measles, cholera, HIV, Salmonella, Shigella, pathogenic E. Coli, typhus, rabies, clap, T. pallidum, cancer, ascarid worms of every description, schizophrenia, dementia, etc...etc...

[@ramsholmen]

This pseudoscience is fun to watch. Did they forget Homo Habilis that is between Australopithecus and erectus. Valuev had problem with growth hormone that affect the form of skull.

[@ACVoaMHeraldforTheKING]

Did they say something wrong for you to call it "pseudoscience"? (Nice typical proud passive aggressive insult by the way) And you don't think those that promote Darwinian Macro Evolution have presuppositions???

[@Vernon-Chitlen]

​@@ACVoaMHeraldforTheKINGAtheists/naturalists cannot even get from the elements to a cell capable of evolving. Nor even making carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus form a single protein or gene. The simplest cell requires a minimum of 473 genes coding for the arrangements of the 16.8 billion amino acids in it's 42 million proteins. Thousands of different types of proteins, In the specified sequences of only 20 specific amino acids out of 500 kinds. All in their left handed forms except for glycine. I can say with certainty, Psalm 139:14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well. All 200 different types of the 37 trillion cells in my body bearing witness to Him, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Ex 3:15

[@ACVoaMHeraldforTheKING]

​@@mattbrook-lee7732 Are you an atheist? And do you believe in Darwinian Macro Evolution? Have you written them and told them what you are commenting here? Maybe they can clarify. Do you have a time stamp where they mention Australopithecus as a single species? (I believe he only said "homo" at the beginning....homo habilis would be part of that no??? Citing the article they were reading) Also, the video is not about Homo Hibilus is it?

[@davissalaki8703]

According to most priests of the modern secular humanist religion, homo h. DOES come before homo e.

[@ACVoaMHeraldforTheKING]

​​@@mattbrook-lee7732 okay but what he said was not wrong. Hibilus does not bridge that gap does it? So his statement is true. I noticed you believe you're an ape, The only reason you believe that is because you believe those have classified you as such. And you still didn't answer my other questions.

[@terminusest5902]

Should Christians adapt to survive with science. While science continues to advance so rapidly and Conservation Christian arguments become even more obsolete. Develop a new understanding that works with science. Christianity has some great ideas that should continue. Obviously the bible was not written for a modern audience and should be done in context of culture, education, law, languages, and politics of ancient times. And Christian prophesies should not be constantly reiterated and reinterpreted.

[@mattrivers973]

Theory vs theory

[@OneVoiceMore]

Great podcast, except, like, you know, like, the interviewer, you know? Dude.... become articulate.

[@johncollins8304]

"Darwin theorized that humans evolved from apes." Really? I thought whenever a 'naive' creationist contested the idea that we evolved from apes the evolutionists ridiculed them (us) saying that was such a stupid blunder because we didn't evolve from apes but that we both evolved from the same progenitor, i.e. pre-apes. Please help me out here. Will carry on watching!😊

[@johnglad5]

Pre-ape? You have some imagination. Did this theoretical ape have 48 chromosomes? I hear said we are 98% the same as a Chimpanzee ad nauseum. Do we at least have a fossil of this pre-ape?

[@spamm0145]

Humans have always been humans, apes have always been apes, genetic load kills evolution, how can any species constantly passing on corrupt genetic information lead to ever increasing levels of complexity when the load will cause species extinction. Mutations are responsible for devolution, not evolution but the investment placed into evolution is so great all opposing evidence is disregarded and ignored because the horrific alternative to an evolutionist is GOD, and that is not tolerable.

[@johnglad5]

@@mattbrook-lee7732 You can call us anything you want. The point I'm getting to is that there is no genetic pathway from whatever to humans. If we are apes and you are moral isn't it wrong to put apes in cages? It would be wrong to put any animal in a cage. It would be wrong to eat animals. It would then be wrong to eat plants. We would then be cannibalistic. See where this leads us.

[@alantasman8273]

@@mattbrook-lee7732 Apes have a different number of chromosomes than modern humans. Evolutionists have had to speculate an unproven chromosome fusion of some type took place to even conceive of such a thing even being possible. Stop being a science denier.

[@davissalaki8703]

You can be an ape. I'll pass

[@SK-bw2cv]

Evolutionists are a funny lot.

[@terminusest5902]

Why cant god have invented evolution himself

[@everettwitt834]

Do you not believe I The God of creation? God of our Bible CREATED EVERYTHING IN DIX DSYS 24 hr days not millions of years. He created Man on day 6 not millions of yrs!!! You act like the earth is millions of years old do did GOD CREAT OR N 13:05 NOT?!!

[@icrscience]

ICR stands by six literal 24 hour days just a few thousand years ago. I'm not sure what you're referring to.

[@Exploresn]

I asked a close Christian friend: Is Jesus walking on water a miracle? He answered, Yes, it is a miracle. I questioned him back; tell me please, which is more miraculous, one guy (Jesus P.B.U.H.) walking on water? Or thousands of people walking on water while it was flowing, chatting and having fun as if they were walking on land? My friend said, what are you talking about? Mohammad did that? I smiled 😊 and said actually, a companion of Prophet Mohammad who did that. His name is Saad lbn Abi Waqqas. He crossed Tigris River with his army. It is a true event; They crossed the river as if they were walking on land as a result of their feeling of security and tranquillity. The water surface could not be seen due to the numerous cavalry and infantry troops. Saad lbn Abi Waqqas crossed the river smoothly after saying takbeer three times, and the people crossed behind him. I asked my Christian friend, Tell me which is a greater miracle? My friend asked me to give him time to read about it. It's been three years, and I am waiting.

[@HealthyHabitsPro]

Hold on so you have a “friend”? And was it a village of happy joking humans or an army? So a “tranquil army” walked across a river? Because they used a word 3 times? Black Magic much? A word and not belief? Yeah I’m just going to pass…oh wait I already started writing…Just why? I mean is this a God comparison thing? Completely off subject…And all over the place…Thank God’s I have a real life🙏🏼

[@Exploresn]

@HealthyHabitsPro Hi Do you think I came up with such an event? I mean search the web for Muslim authentic books that was written more than 1200 years ago and read Many Muslim have walked on water in numerous events other than this one Most of those books are translated into English The purpose is to follow Jesus and be a Muslim as he was not to follow your church evildoers and go to hell for eternity Think wisely and follow Jesus as he described himself A messenger of God 🙏

[@mattstevenson1334]

Is this a joke?

[@nickroberts-xf7oq]

Your comment ? Yep ! 😂 Why waste time trying to prove something you don't believe in doesn't exist ?!?

[@mattstevenson1334]

What are you on about? I think the brainwashing has had an adverse affect on your English.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

The FACTS are that we evolved from a common ancestor we share with other great apes and this is beyond any doubt.

[@davissalaki8703]

Why do you feel the need to proselytize about your pagan monkey gods on a Christian channel. Have you no respect for other people's faith?

[@Vernon-Chitlen]

Delusional, you are described by Romans 1:18-22. LUCA, last universal common ancestor has been demolished. Among the first thousand prokaryotic genomes that were sequenced, not a single protein coding gene is conserved across all genomes. Nobody can make carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus form a single protein or gene in a reasonable simulation of a prebiotic world.

[@rubiks6]

Not "facts." Just because you claim something is a "fact" does not make it so. Sorry.

[@UserRandJ]

Live birth by live birth- how do you suggest such changes emerged? Apes gave birth to talking Apes? Whales nostrils just began altering their location? And developed sonar? Grow up

[@TheSaintFrenzy]

That’s the narrative presented as fact. Nonetheless a narrative it remains.

[@dominiqueubersfeld2282]

It's impossible for a creationist to evolve into an honest person. Therefore Evolution is debunked.

[@flybroon]

Watching people with no scientific credentials talk about a subject that they know nothing about is highly entertaining.

[@philroe2363]

Watching someone make a completely false and uninformed comment is what’s entertaining.

[@ChristisLord143]

@flybroon could you elaborate on your comment a bit. I’d like to know how you have came to the conclusion that these individuals have no scientific credentials as well as how have you concluded that they must not know what they’re talking about? Have you done your own research? Are there in papers that you have published on this subject, or have you simply taken the words of others as indisputable facts? I’m genuinely asking these questions in the kindest possible way.

[@ikebetellinglies982]

Amen

[@truthisbeautiful7492]

He is a PhD geologist. What are your qualifications? And there are biologists, astronomers, chemists, physicists that affirm the Creator. What age were you when you were taught the apeman mythology?

[@philroe2363]

@@truthisbeautiful7492 actually, Tomkins is a PhD in genetics….

[@flybroon]

Today we are going to lie our tits off about prehuman fossils in support of our favourite book of Bronze Age fairy tales.

[@charrin9086]

You assume too much- which is the pitfall of all evolutionists. 99% assumption, theory and philosophy- 1% science.

[@HS-zk5nn]

evolution is not bronze age. it is a modern day one

[@flybroon]

Lying for Jaaaysus.

[@HS-zk5nn]

lying for durrr win

[@terminusest5902]

Should Christians adapt to survive with science. While science continues to advance so rapidly and Conservation Christian arguments become even more obsolete. Develop a new understanding that works with science. Christianity has some great ideas that should continue. Obviously the bible was not written for a modern audience and should be done in context of culture, education, law, languages, and politics of ancient times. And Christian prophesies should not be constantly reiterated and reinterpreted.