Homosexual Murder Ring | Law and Order SVU

[@supersizesenpai]

Finn: Hey, don't look at me, I just know stuff. Everyone else: *side-eye intensifies* 🤣🤣

[@MissFortune1000]

Finn son is gay I mean………

[@craigwapples4200]

Honestly my favorite part because he learned all this from being undercover which is my favorite ongoing joke on this show 😂

[@jaytee6563]

My favorite Finn line of all time 😂

[@thebookcorner1072]

I laughed when Finn said that. So, what else do you know about Finn?

[@supersizesenpai]

@@MissFortune1000 yup, his son is an awesome character that I wish was in the series more. There dynamic is so good.

[@thestank3]

"i got news for ya. that means your gay" is such a funny line.

[@markalken7976]

Made even funnier by the fact that it was said in response to the single gayest thing any man could ever say.

[@christianbeckles8992]

it is but , it’s not true, LOTS of guys are bi sexual, but we just pass that.

[@Anonymousdeletedaccount...]

@@christianbeckles8992half gay is still 100% gay. Lightskins and mixed dudes are black people still so this is the same concepy

[@Anonymousdeletedaccount...]

ill let the fact i spelled concept wrong be known and not edit that

[@giuseppejoseph8890]

I'm bi. Trust me it's not the same thing. Gay guys don't get turned on by women. And let me tell you how hot bi relations are... 🔥

[@jahh155spl2]

"Don't look at me, I just know stuff!" 😂😂😂😂

[@dakotaromero3485]

Lol

[@ZaricaLP]

being the knowledgeable person in a group is not always the best

[@06VistaBlueGT1]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dragonrider1549]

I’ve had to legitimately use that line way too much in my life. Apparently no one can have knowledge anymore without having first hand experience.

[@lilareynolds8591]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@princess_ama]

When the lawyer started mirandizing himself 😂😂😂

[@fatalbert135]

Man that just hits different. Started laughing hysterically

[@EASJR1991]

Other than cops and lawyers, who else is in a better position to know what your rights are, if arrested for a crime lol

[@ed_carnby3431]

7:33 the meme was born. Who better than Ice-T to say "I got news for you....THAT MEANS YA GAY!"

[@Gwildor2020]

No joke, this is one of the all time greatest segments in TV history.

[@Ikajo]

Except that bi people exists

[@lanthanumlanthanium6373]

This whole episode is based.

[@andreachilton6037]

The new "here's your sign"

[@itaintoveryeti9444]

I'm NOT diabetic. I just need insulin injections to keep my blood sugar in check. "that means you're diabetic." *pikachu face*

[@darthdragon117]

Perfect

[@johnnythao]

I remember this episode. The subject of closeted men having slip ups of "Lowdown" meetings is pretty real, and Fin's explanation of it sounds all too familiar among a majority of men who have told their stories.

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

Finn making bonds arcana to the max

[@lesleyfuentes1452]

I think people keep forgetting his son is a gay man and he might have knowledge through his son

[@o.g.francis9361]

​@@lesleyfuentes1452Fin doesn't find that out until at least season 7

[@KomoliRihyoh]

@@lesleyfuentes1452 He didn't know that yet. He likely has knowledge from either being on the force with the DEA (Down Low gay men and drugs went hand-in-hand back then) or from simply being a black man growing up in NYC and hearing rumors and gossip about it.

[@MalakeeHenderson]

How much y'all wanna bet people won't help him because they'll think it's better of he a cake... 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@RocketRoketto]

The smirks and side eyes to Fin is hilarious 😂

[@antmagor]

I think it was before they introduced his son who is gay. Most likely that’s who Fin heard it from.

[@liljj2390]

@@antmagoractually it was after. He finds out his son was gay in season 7. This season 5. But the downlow is real. Been talked about since the late 90’s

[@sanaaharris3128]

Finn's "don't look at me. I just know stuff" had me ROLLINGGGGGG🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@brenale_heartsJesus]

These small snippets are reminding me how addicted I used to be to on this show 😂

[@Mr.Burrow]

Do you still watch it?

[@brenale_heartsJesus]

@@Mr.Burrow no. Im now into real crime channels on KZbin lol

[@HisNameIsEL]

Ikr

[@Annie-fb5shkane]

I don't see how SVU is still on the air. It has NEVER EVER been as good as the original LAW And ORDER

[@footy_baller-n7m]

​@@Annie-fb5shkane The original show died out years ago, SVU has always been superior, ask literally anybody.

[@chrisbowers2450]

The way everyone looked at Finn was priceless 😂

[@Jesper-bl2ns]

I think that scene took multiple takes. 😂😂

[@kilgoretrout8896]

“The down low” “The what?” 💀

[@erikafigueroa5128]

I remember this episode, I was working in HIV prevention at thr time. This episode hit hard for rhe community we were working with.

[@robertstull8759]

AZT in 2005? That seems... out of date

[@lagarde2011]

This episode aired a few months after the New York Times ran an article in the Sunday magazine about black men on the down low (in August of 2003).

[@EVOLVINGINFINITELY888]

All of the shows' episodes deal with newspaper articles, or what was aired on the news

[@BDRose]

Ripped From the headlines

[@jinakaye]

Apparently, the article focused on the book “On the DL”, which had been released earlier that year. The author was also on “Oprah” that year.

[@christopherroyal7939]

And also after Oprah did a show about it. Funny how down low only referred to black men.

[@flickrebeat8936]

​@@christopherroyal7939well most black men and black people in general view it as a White man's Perversion as a way of the Devil, and yeah white people and Latinos do it too, but black people put way more emphasis on it, I mean look at Katt Williams anyone with eyes knows black woman energy when they see it, so yeah black men spend way more time trying to discredit it than any other group

[@JesusMyKing31]

He infected his poor wife with HIV I would of never forgiven him

[@jasonfoley6502]

facts

[@seanwoods5943]

In California it's legal.

[@jasonfoley6502]

@@seanwoods5943what the?

[@joeminier1736]

Not just her possibly the other guys some also have wives that are most likely infected as well.

[@SuperSoldier26]

​@@seanwoods5943what are you talking about?

[@ShanaJahsintaWalters]

I love how Fin says he knows stuff. 😂😂😂

[@pinkmark4047]

The look the Captain gave him 😂😂

[@ShanaJahsintaWalters]

@@pinkmark4047 Yes.

[@Filmation77]

It's his subtle way of saying "Yeah this is a Black thing"😅😅

[@ShanaJahsintaWalters]

@@Filmation77 He's so cool.

[@Reese1882yw]

@@Filmation77yes closeted gay men only exist in the black community. He wasn’t saying it’s a black thing only speaking on the experience he knows as a black man. The fact that you got it’s a black thing out of what he was saying is crazy it’s literally not it’s just the DL lifestyle only shows black men.

[@ephemeralsamsara]

This episode was so sad, I don't care who sleeps with whom in their personal life; but if you're sleeping with both sexes simultaneously, be honest with people. Give them a choice! Michael Beachs (phenomenal actor) character infects his wife with HIV as a result of his deceit. In it's prime, 'Law & Order SVU' was such a hard hitting show, part of such a ground breaking franchise that has never shyed away from tackling hard hitting issues with such talented actors, writers etc, that has and continues to enthral and entertain so many as its done for decades. Not to mention the iconic opening monologue. Classic.

[@Feedback72]

Im gonna assume you dont know what its like to be queer. Coming out to certain people can be a death sentence, especially back when this episode was out. You tell one person 10 other find out and they tell everyone else. Also her getting HIV wasnt a result of his deceit of his sexuality, straight men also get HIV from cheating or drinking after someone else.

[@dermothoran1814]

​@@Feedback72I agree with a lot of what you've said. But I'm not aware of any evidence of transmission occurring after drinking from a HIV positive peron's cup?

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

​@@Feedback72same rule applies. Whether he says it was with a man or hides it, fact is he was sleeping with more than one person

[@ayameisastar]

⁠@@Feedback72 using a condom with his affair partners would not have been a death sentence. Telling his wife that he had an affair and his affair partner had HIV would not have been a death sentence (he didn’t need to disclose who the affair partner was). Not getting married in the first place and having kids and pulling innocent parties into his mess would not have been a death sentence. I understand that be LGBTQ has historically been dangerous for a lot of demographics, but there were a 100 ways he could have handled his romantic life and he chose the one that hurt everyone to the maximum.

[@taylormade9748]

@@Feedback72 the person still has a right to know. Just like that person is struggling, you also are lying to another person to save your own skin. No matter how you try to slice it, that’s wrong. You want someone into only empathize with someone who is lgbtq but not someone else who’s in the dark and being lied too. That’s messed up and selfish af

[@rambofan334]

"Don't look at me, I just know stuff." I wonder why, Fin.

[@CR0WYT]

They were sus of Fin for a second 😂

[@liljj2390]

The looks they were giving him…like what type of time you on 😂😂😂

[@katelynpringle5506]

7:34 this is the funniest tv moment I have ever seen in my entire life

[@nobodyknows3261]

😂

[@1talldaddy]

the funniest part is even he didn't believe what he said.

[@tonyc3142]

The music and reaction it was sells it for me 😂

[@V2011F]

Add the Gutts theme, and it's even funnier.

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

"Don't look at me. I just know stuff."

[@VoMiTThEMessiah]

😂 ice t should be a comedian 😂

[@wellumm8350]

THIS IS WHERE THE MEME COMES FROM!?!?!?!

[@TheKrispyfort]

People killing to cover up cheating on their spouses. My, how shocking

[@seanmager1168]

YEAH. VERRRRRRRYYY SHOCKING. but what can i say??? some people, ARE JUST SICK. And SELFISH.

[@Gwildor2020]

7:33 This is literally one of the funniest and at the same time greatest segments in television history!

[@janetsims180]

Will never forget this episode. WELL acted and NEEDED, with so many men (especially black men) out here having unprotected sexual relationships with other men, becoming HIV infected, then infecting their wives or SOs. Michael Beach and Bethany Butler who played his wife - Awesome performances!

[@2ndround415]

Michael Beach one of the most underrated actors

[@liljj2390]

Salute

[@freddy8479]

INDEED AND AGREED 💯

[@brendajackson13]

He's brilliant!

[@AcidicOrpheus73]

6:46 Finn just knows stuff

[@2ctheocean]

Can everyone please remember that this episode is 2 decades old? SVU was big on shining lights on issues that other shows were afraid to bring up and in some cases they fumbled in how they wrote them, or just had to dumb them down for an audience that wasn't familiar with the LGBTQ community.

[@vk2nf]

Horribly simplistic explanation of men’s sexual identity which is way more nuanced than gay/bi/straight, and quite judgemental - although given its vintage not unexpected.

[@avery3649]

yes ppl ain't understand then nor now

[@bellerain381]

Yes! That’s what people forget! Honestly, SVU did a pretty good job introducing LGBT issues during the times

[@kayvictoria7250]

Who cares

[@The.Wellerman]

​@@kayvictoria7250you, cause you responded.

[@TheSpineSplitter7]

"He was a nice guy, I didn't want to blow him off" Lol yes you did 😂

[@odinfromcentr2]

Well played.

[@trackerjacker5467]

That HAD to have been deliberate, by the writers for the episode at least.

[@TheSpineSplitter7]

@@trackerjacker5467 probably Ice T himself haha

[@kharilane1340]

@@TheSpineSplitter7 I've T, or Ice T?

[@TheSpineSplitter7]

@@kharilane1340 ice. Autocorrect

[@charleslennonbaker]

One, Michael Beach needs to age. Two, he's a chameleon. He can handle any role and still nail it. What a talented actor.

[@BazukinBelyugovich]

7:33 That scene that went viral

[@eliesh3833]

Yep! The moment I saw this scene, I was like, _"Oh my God! There's the meme! That's why some of these actors are so familiar."_

[@flickrebeat8936]

😂

[@stevenispopin]

Them later giving him a gay black son is hilarious story writing 🙅🏿‍♂️🧢😭

[@sweet_punchskyng1233]

The Rookie 😩😂😭

[@QueenSugar72]

On this show?

[@bluebrain7009]

He's not chastising him for being gay, he's chastising him for *hiding* the fact that he's gay (or bi).

[@victoryvictory3313]

He’s talking about Finn who had a gay son in the show not the lawyer

[@bluebrain7009]

@@victoryvictory3313 I know

[@rosey3664]

It’s giving P. Diddy 😅……..

[@Mjt1262]

☠️☠️☠️

[@SuperSoldier26]

Olivia didn't realize that the guy she dated was HIV-positive

[@lukerosales5879]

He was probably neg when they dated. Its been a while since I've watched but did Liv ever specify how long ago they dated?

[@SuperSoldier26]

@@lukerosales5879 who knows?

[@buhhbibi23]

@@lukerosales5879 she took a test, she was negative for it

[@EASJR1991]

@@lukerosales5879 if memory serves me correctly, she said that they dated five years prior to the events of this episode

[@anjelheaven]

The actress who played the wife in this episode was sensational.

[@dreamsteddybearsmaster]

She really was wasn't she?!😊

[@Idez15]

6:46 the looks of the guys faces😂

[@odinfromcentr2]

Cultural pressure is awful. And fatal, it turns out.

[@wickidblazed420]

Hugs and kisses the furbaby!!! Emma 🩷s you

[@cecejamesable]

Cultural pressure from the previous generations along with stigmas and discrimination will take forever to die.

[@rachelgarber1423]

Such a tragic situation I’ve heard about that conundrum for Black men.

[@cocosaccount3880]

Whites too!

[@themermaidstale5008]

Jeff still dragged everyone into a mess.

[@StarFighters76]

LOL @ "Don't look at me. I just know stuff" Keep telling yourself that lol.

[@arnold5]

😂

[@odinfromcentr2]

Given that it could (and in this case, _does_ ) become quite relevant at work, I would say it's his business to know these things.

[@myth8644]

I mean, "knowing stuff" is basically Ice T's job description in Law and Order. People are talking about the other meme, but it's the platonic ideal of the "It's called [thing]. [Group] does it and it's [multiple activities]." meme.

[@StarFighters76]

@@odinfromcentr2 Oh I get that. But sometimes the squad can be a little oblivious to common knowledge trends. It's happened on a few occasions.

[@1talldaddy]

@@myth8644 yeah you're right, he's pretty much the go to guy when it comes to black community.

[@KadenHartley]

We don't call it on the "downlow" anymore. We call it getting Diddied

[@maryrobinson4131]

Send Elliot "big round booty" Stabler in with the undercover vibe going on..

[@omarcogle1965]

Christopher Meloni (Elliot) did play Bisexual Chris Keller on Oz, so there's that.

[@86Kera]

Season 5 is one of my favorites . This show has never disappointed not once. Olivia is the 🐐

[@justicestyles]

This was a good episode …. ice T did a phenomenal job

[@AshleyBehr]

I love Michael Beach! He is on so many shows and is a phenomenal actor! Seems like a great human too! ❤

[@SuperSoldier26]

Indeed he is

[@shadowdramon01]

7:31 OH! So this is the episode where the meme comes from.

[@AlaskanGhost]

When he said "I am a lawyer" it reminded me of DBZ Abridged, "I am an adult."

[@karimazizkembo5312]

The Meme😂😂. That's where it came from😂😂😂

[@dietotaku]

what meme is everyone talking about?!

[@Sungod77777]

@@dietotaku7:36

[@Rockas360]

I remember when Liv got told by the Doc to get tested

[@sarahhejab6596]

Love Fin’s lines

[@TheKrispyfort]

This same fear runs in the Aboriginal Australian community, too. Tragic😢

[@wickidblazed420]

I'm extremely bisexual but I don't go around murking people

[@matthewforsyth284]

Uh no offence but you do unfortunately for the murdering part but you do mean murdering right?

[@Jacob-ps5xl]

@@matthewforsyth284 since when does being bi make someone a murderer???

[@mrroboshadow]

@@Jacob-ps5xl since trolls want to bait people with shock comments like the one you fell for

[@darryify]

SAME

[@syds8752]

@@matthewforsyth284what does this even say?

[@Sounds_to_Fuel_Dreams]

I remember this episode first time I found out this happens...since have talked to men about it...i have heard WILD stories!...all this to say protect yourself ladies.

[@CronaWings]

ironic how the guy who plays stabler played a character in the show OZ who killed all his gay lovers

[@RobertPagano226]

I was very surprised watching this episode, not knowing these type of boys clubs exists, the down low? This show always gives us plots that some of us have never even heard of. The twists & turns until we learn the outcome. Abbott's wife's scenes & acting blew me away!

[@coolerjr]

I love how they all look at fin. An he's like I just things

[@therealsolee_9032]

I love the music that’s when you know the tea spilled

[@officialtywan582]

8:54 Andy already knew what time it is 😂😂😂😂

[@woodwyrm]

7:41 the MEM is in 🤣

[@doodleking400]

Poker? More like POKIM!!

[@Ballinbmac]

I wasn’t expecting to randomly watch this and see this meme 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@christianbauch7834]

Change the title to “Closeted gay murder ring” The whole reason that Michael Beach’s character killed York was because Beach’s character had a family and kids and York wanted him to leave his wife and kids to be in a relationship with York. It’s not like they were out of the closet and killing each other for nothing.

[@albertosaurschannel6946]

7:33 Now I’m playing “Guts’ theme” from Berserk anime (1997).

[@CornellBentley]

when she found out about her ex status tsssk

[@robinmathis2304]

It really hurts a woman’s heart when she finds out that her man/ex is or was gay when or after they dated.

[@k8tina]

Hurts even more when it's your own brother who stole your boyfriend (which happened to me) 😳🤭

[@jcsuperstar4646]

@@k8tina So your boyfriend was gay all along.

[@k8tina]

@@jcsuperstar4646 Yes sir. Happened in Fire Island Pines, Summer of '93 🙃

[@jcsuperstar4646]

@@k8tina 😂😀😆

[@Cyrax219]

​@@k8tinadang

[@lavernebuckner7047]

This was a very good episode.👍Michael Beach performance is outstanding.💪

[@jamegumm]

Greatest meme L&O SVU every created

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yep

[@semafodje782]

Well, in a way, these guys were "poking" each other in their "Poker" games.

[@thepotcallinthekettle4409]

Ice T’s finest acting performance😂. Still sucks😂😂

[@greywakez]

"You're on the downlow dude!" lol

[@nirun7992]

such a sad episode In the end when she said she will never forgive him if he put their family and friends through a trial- so touching. Feel sorry for lgbtq people who have to hide their sexuality and be somewhere they are not. For BME communities it is exceptionally hard as there are expectations which ground people down.

[@PapaLobo94]

“BME”?

[@ChrisJones-rm7uu]

Black people don't rock with gay community

[@ChristobelEnchanted]

A person is all the parts they are.who you lie down with has nothing to do with who you are when you're standing up.that's just one part of a person.

[@julissah6475]

“You’re on the down low dude” 😂😂

[@devegas4910]

This is the fourth time I have seen Michael Beech in a role that involves him cheating on his wife. How many more will I find.

[@MrBmick79]

you talking bout Soul Food?

[@freddy8479]

​​@@MrBmick79 Yep, Maxine ACTUALLY PUSHED Miles into the arms of her cousin, Faith.

[@Maxine1630]

Very heavy episode. One of my favorites.

[@mtease]

Great episode. Finn was amazing… I just know stuff!!

[@jeanetteschock4744]

This was such a good episode ❤

[@cjdavis2684]

You don't need to give the haters any ideas with episodes like this.

[@AlastorsShadowDemon]

The wind blowing a different way will give them an idea. 🙄

[@bluebrain7009]

The meme: 7:32 - 7:49

[@omarcogle1965]

He said it with so much conviction in his voice.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

Michael Beach? I remember him from Lean on Me I don't know how many special guest stars they had on SVU over 25 years

[@ItsSkeletor]

Ice T hinting at Diddy years in advance.

[@drewhaynes1874]

ppl really forget bisexuality is a thing tbh, i do like how this ep brings out how homophobic and heteronormativity ran rampant in the black community because this is pretty accurate ....dl black men feel in anger when others could potentially find out and can assault others to keep it safe... not everyone yes but this is very real.

[@Reese1882yw]

Yet yall willing sleep with those men

[@ChrisJones-rm7uu]

And the black community will not Accepted it

[@jamesape2495]

Finn know that answer a little too convenient. 🤨 Im black and I've never heard of that "Down-Low" theory like that before. 😂😂😂

[@jcsuperstar4646]

Man, that Down Low thing has been out for years.

[@julesmasseffectmusic]

I'm àustralian and I've heard it, we don't use it that way though. It was used just to mean hidden.

[@OmegaSaiyan92]

this episode was a lot funnier than it should've been, and 90% of it is because of Fin

[@billcox8870]

I remember watching this episode

[@zurirobinson2749]

Wouldn't they un-assign Benson from this case? Conflict of interest? Imagine investigating your former boyfriend's murder

[@R33C3.]

Don't look at me I just know stuff 😂😂

[@Gaster15]

7:33 this is were a meme is born.😂

[@user-rx8no1zt4c]

Sounds like they be having some Diddy parties 😂😂😂

[@thefighter5182]

Yeah we got Finn on the case here and he knows wassup about the down low.

[@FernGully37]

Had “I got news for you. That means you’re gay.” Not been said by IT. It wouldn’t have been the same.

[@KadenHartley]

P Diddy is the grandfather of "On the downlow"

[@naymeequillo]

Wouldn't she be pulled off the case right away??

[@markintexas3030]

That’s what I was thinking. No way the victim’s ex-girlfriend would be allowed to be the lead detective, or have any involvement other than provide background on him.

[@JarvisBrodie]

6:00 My favorite scene!!

[@brendajackson13]

Calling it 'Poker Night' is so funny (and apt) to me in light of the extra mural activities taking place.

[@nikopawlowic6557]

Uh sorry Fin but you deserved that look. 🤣

[@BrooklynEwms32LAKERS]

1 of the Best Episodes of This Classic Show...All the Actors Shined Especially ..The Wife Whom Came to Terms of the 💔 outcome.

[@wayneadams9102]

YOU ON THE DOWN LOW, DOOD.

[@qb3540]

Oh my god, the most iconic mene in history.

[@baronzemo5301]

Listen real close at the 7:35 minute mark and you can hear Puff Daddy in the room convincing Katt it ain’t gay.

[@orlandorussell9600]

Under cover brothers🤷🏾‍♂️😶