Honda 2.4 Liter V-TEC Engine Part 1: Oil Pan Removal

This is Part 1 of 2 Oil Pan Replacement Video series:
Video 1: Oil Pan Removal
Step by step video of the removal of an oil pan On a Honda Element.
Some other Honda with the 2.4L VTEC engine may be similar.
Parts:
FEL-PRO OS 30746 Oil Pan Gasket Set amzn.to/3DAuBeE
Dorman 264-410 Oil Pan, Black. amzn.to/3FFXjwr
(monetized links...thank you for your support)
PLEASE NOTE: the removal of the lower balljoint and swaybar link is not necessary.
See my oil pan removal shortcut video: • Honda 2.4L V-TEC Par...

[@hectorgalvan8674]

Honda fucked us on this oil pan shit

[@harris8390]

Removing a subframe to change an oil pan... Awesome engineering, Honda 🙌🏼

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Thankfully the repair should last for the remaining lifespan of the vehicle

[@skopa1223]

Yeah. The starter ain’t no picnic either

[@barberjourney3698]

Man this looks freaking painful to do just to think I got it do this soon. On my 07 element freaking Honda why why

[@skopa1223]

J P I got it done the same time as my clutch on my 08. I waited till the clutch was completely gone so I could kill two birds with one stone. Could of replaced the clutch a month earlier as it was going. Or could of replaced the oil pan 6 months down the road.

[@greatness3928]

I hv to change mind smdh hope mechanic don't get scared

[@cliffordbodine5834]

There really should be some regulation or law that prevents automobile manufacturers from using layer upon layer of obfuscation to keep vehicle owners from servicing their vehicles. It's gotten to the point where vehicle manufacturers are building obvious service barriers into their vehicles that have no other purpose but to preclude the owner from servicing their own vehicle.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

+Clifford Bodine Considering the transmission and motor is cramp in that small space, i do not thing its that bad, some system are easier to service and other not. But I agree with you, some manufacturer make it harder and harder to service your own vehicle

[@koriko88]

@@402carkid9 Once it's out of warranty it's somewhat necessary to DIY for a lot of people.

[@nostalgic5958]

Y

[@tahirahwoolery]

Genius!!!!!!!!

[@j.5865]

Don't normally leave comments on videos, but you are a life saver. Took a good 4 hours.... Because I took off the oil pan bolts first..... What a mistake!

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

thank you for the kind feedback, nice to know that my videos are useful to other people

[@j.5865]

Sticks, Stones and iron No problem man, keep up the good work. No way I was paying my mechanic for this job lol

[@franciscolozada1059]

jose solis lol you ain't the only one but glad i came accross this video

[@georgemallory797]

Think I'll just pay a mechanic to do this job. This disgusts me. This damned Element is starting to become a can of worms and it's been cared for impeccably. There's no way this is worth all this effort when all I have is a slightly leaky oil pan gasket. This just makes me angry.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Hey George, its not that bad, i just did the oil pan on my other Element. The pan had a cracked. This time i learn a few shortcut(last time I was following the Element tech manual recommended steps)the balljoint and sway bar link does not need to be removed, just the subframe needs to be lowered. If you pay a mechanic its rate for 4 hours shop time, total parts can be less than $100 if you shop around...good luck

[@harris8390]

George Mallory I agree. Our Element hs 275,000 miles and has had multiple leaks in various places around the engine.. It also burns through oil extremely fast now. I have to out an oil stabilizer becauses its gotten that bad. Our oil pan gasket is leaking too and considering I have to drop the subframe Im not even going to bother at this point.

[@georgemallory797]

Sad thing is, mine's only got 79,000 miles on it.

[@georgemallory797]

Thank you. I'm not as mad, today! Lol. I read some links that I found by first seeing your video that showed how to just lower the subframe enough without detaching it completely. Thanks for the video, sir, and the followup!

[@kevinshea4776]

Search youtube for common Honda oil leaks on Honda K24 engine and for a $4.00 gasket will stop your VTC Oil solenoid leak which from my experience is the same issue I had on my 279K '02 Honda CRV. Once I replaced that gasket, my oil leak and my perceived that my engine was burning oil was false! It was leaking from the flatten-out gasket and leaking from the timing chain side of the engine or the passengers side. Easy fix with 10mm extended socket.

[@haa1774]

Stupid engineering for the oil pan location. Damn. My accord is the same

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Its definetely something to watch before buying a used Accord or Element

[@brookvalliant7813]

Same procedure for the 2004 honda accord with the 2.4. Mine is an automatic but has that same bracket attached to the engine. It has to be removed as there are some oil pan bolts hidden underneath. I'd also like to mention the chain that goes down into the pan, careful when prying at that spot behind the balancer. Don't go in so far as to hit the chain.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Thanks for the extra information Abigail

[@matthewedwards6108]

So as you're pans half way dropped you can see the oil pump tensioner but need to pry behind it easy not to break it?

[@matthewedwards6108]

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[@tepanganiban]

God damn all that for an oil pan??

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Unfortunately, yes

[@tennesseerepairguy2162]

Good video man. I just rebuilt the engine, got it all back in and put a hole through the pan

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Wow, thats adding pain to injury... thanks for the feedback

[@junothescarecrow]

"just need to lower it a little bit more"

[@car5car5]

It could be easy to avoid if owners checked and spray painted oil pan sometimes. BTW, every oil changing mechanic could tell car owner about rusty pan.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

That car was from an auction… it was unloved by the previous owner

[@fluffycrepe4057]

Happy I came across your video thought this was gonna be a easy lift pop and drop replace lol.. abit more complicated than expected but atleast the pan and gasket are cheap.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

It should be that way, but the Honda engineers thought otherwise... You definitely save in labour do it yourself, it’s not really that hard and you don’t need any special tools. Thank you for the feedback

[@dreotero1048]

Moments like this when power tools are needed.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Thanks for your feedback

[@brendongaff2054]

I would be so scared to ride in that damn,never seen so much rust in critical areas wow

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Welcome to the rust belt… everything is fine, solid and past yearly safety inspection, but yes rust is a creeping cancer

[@car5car5]

I hope you painted all rusty ...everything

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Fighting rust everyway I can

[@TEAMCREAM_96]

Wouldn't the two side motor mounts support the motor ?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

I'm following the tech guide instructions.

[@SunshineAndSails]

What this video showed me is that this is beyond my pay grade. RIP Honda Element 05 - 246K miles. Oh hell I'm going to buy a used engine who am I kidding?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Depending on the overall condition of the car, keep in mind the leaky oil pan can be fix by any mechanic shop for +/- $800 mostly labour, parts are less than $100

[@octabogie]

are you f’n kiddin me???? It’s almost easier to pull the engine!! This is gonna be fun in a gravel driveway. I guess the shop wants $1000 to replace the gasket?? Boy oh boy 👦

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Its not that bad if your not plague by rust...good luck with your project

[@globalprofits101]

Same process on 08 2.4 accord?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

From what I read on the internet it looks very similar. Watch my oil pan removal shortcut video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZPVmXSIiLiGoJY

[@pjj12345789]

All you need to do is remove motor mount bolts bro 😂

[@securityguy]

Question on stabbing the putty knife through. Did you just hammer on the putty knife and force it through?? Because there is literally no gap between the block and pan, i'm trying to do this job also. thanks.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Just make sure you got all the bolts and there is also 2 hex nuts. You should be able to work the blade between the pan and the block without a hammer. Make several passes, I guess tapping lightly with a hammer wont hurt anything

[@canuckfixit7722]

7:48 Using this exact same method and noticed that the metal putty knife leaves a few scratches on the lower block where you push in the knife. Did you notice this and if so, was the gasket able to seal effectively?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

The gasket installations were leak free on both of my element for as long as I own them. I chiose the gasket over RTV because of bad experience with RTV in the past. I did not want to take everything apart more than once, so the feltpro gasket looked easier and more of a safe bet for my skill level.

[@nbonner75]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video!

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Thanks for your feedback, upcoming soon clutch installation vid

[@octabogie]

Thank you for the video!

[@markleblanc3447]

You don’t have to remove the ball joints or the sway bar. Loosen the back sub frame bolts, remove the front sub frame bolts and you’ll have enough space to remove the Pan. Just support the engine and trans with a jack. Don’t go by the Honda handbook, it’s a lot of extra work for nothing.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Thank you for the feedback, I actually did a video about what you describe when a replace the oil pan on my other Hon da Element kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZPVmXSIiLiGoJY

[@canuckfixit7722]

Seems like an awful lot of work for a DIY'er or major expense for a shop to do this. Isn't there a way to make a secure patch over the majority of the bottom of the pan where there might be enough good metal to bond? Then replace the pan when the clutch needs to be done.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

You are right about the cost of that job at a shop...I dont anything about welding, but I did the job twice (on two different Honda Element) and I made a another video with a few shortcut kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZPVmXSIiLiGoJY

[@canuckfixit7722]

@@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox That is a better method and only one jack supporting the engine and transmission? Where did you place the jack? Thanks.

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

@@canuckfixit7722 the Jack is where the engine block and the transmission join with a pieces of plywood as a pad between the jack and the motors...

[@michaeldupin4679]

Do you add some type of silicone to the gasket ?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

No, the gasket manufacturer specified not to use RTV

[@ChannelytelHD]

What year is that Honda your working on and what kinda of Honda

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

On that video it's a 2008 Honda Element, should be the same for all years Element

[@SwiftAztec]

Does this process apply to an rsx k20 engine?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

I dont have experience with the RSX, but after a quick search it appears to be a similar oil pan removal process. Check out my oil pan removal quick tips video, the job is easier than it look

[@franciscodiaz2632]

V6 cylinders more easy to replace

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Thanks for the info

[@JJ-fx7tg]

For real honda?

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

Its really not that bad

[@garycooper7345]

Be nice if you included the damn year of the vehicle in the title...

[@Jayy-rf7db]

Gary Cooper you realize there’s multiple Honda’s with this engine and they’re all the same way. Only difference is that transmission bracket might not be in the way of some hidden bolts on the pan like mine. I have a 05 crv and it’s the exact same as this minus that bracket

[@Desertduleler_88]

This has done some beach work.......

[@JoeBakerOutsideTheBox]

+MrStoneycool69 not much beach around here, probably was park in a snowbank for too long

[@Desertduleler_88]

Hmmmm, that's unfortunate.